Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-10 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 8:14 AM David Howells wrote: > Also, the isl package was split out from gcc so that cross-gcc could use it > also, but gcc now seems to be carrying its own isl package of a different > version (0.12.2 rather than 0.16.1). Do we still build with isl support or > could this

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-10 Thread David Howells
I wonder if we should drop the cloog package from Fedora. It was separated from gcc so that both gcc and cross-gcc could use it. However neither of them now do. Also, the isl package was split out from gcc so that cross-gcc could use it also, but gcc now seems to be carrying its own isl package

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-03 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 03. 01. 23 v 4:30 Kevin Kofler via devel napsal(a): Fabio Valentini wrote: - incompatible compile-time options (i.e. resulting in conditional compilation): different packages depend on crates with different sets of features enabled, sometimes with conflicting options. Even with a stable

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-02 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 10:52 PM Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On 1/2/23 22:30, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Fabio Valentini wrote: > >> - incompatible compile-time options (i.e. resulting in conditional > >> compilation): different packages depend on crates with different sets > >> of

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-02 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 1/2/23 22:30, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Fabio Valentini wrote: >> - incompatible compile-time options (i.e. resulting in conditional >> compilation): different packages depend on crates with different sets >> of features enabled, sometimes with conflicting options. Even with a >> stable

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Fabio Valentini wrote: > - incompatible compile-time options (i.e. resulting in conditional > compilation): different packages depend on crates with different sets > of features enabled, sometimes with conflicting options. Even with a > stable ABI, you'd need to build crates for all necessary

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 02, 2023 at 01:06:52PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Matthew Miller wrote: > > Okay. no. This is not how we do things here. > Apologies for my snide remark that visibly came out rude, sorry. Thank you, Kevin. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Matthew Miller wrote: > Okay. no. This is not how we do things here. Apologies for my snide remark that visibly came out rude, sorry. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 02, 2023 at 01:59:46AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > The application can pick the options with which each library is compiled? > What a stupid idea! Now I understand why the language is called "Rust". Okay. no. This is not how we do things here. -- Matthew Miller Fedora

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-01 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Fabio Valentini wrote: > - incompatible compile-time options (i.e. resulting in conditional > compilation): different packages depend on crates with different sets > of features enabled, sometimes with conflicting options. Even with a > stable ABI, you'd need to build crates for all necessary

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-01 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 3:48 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 9:37 PM Kevin Kofler via devel > wrote: > > > > Neal Gompa wrote: > > > Can we please have gcc-rs also built (even though it's experimental)? > > > > Will gcc-rs be able to generate usable shared libraries for Rust

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 9:37 PM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Neal Gompa wrote: > > Can we please have gcc-rs also built (even though it's experimental)? > > Will gcc-rs be able to generate usable shared libraries for Rust crates? > If someone were to spend the time to build the

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-30 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Neal Gompa wrote: > Can we please have gcc-rs also built (even though it's experimental)? Will gcc-rs be able to generate usable shared libraries for Rust crates? Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 7:57 PM Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On 12/30/22 14:12, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 2:02 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > >> > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchainF38 > >> > >> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes >

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-30 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 12/30/22 14:12, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 2:02 PM Ben Cotton wrote: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchainF38 >> >> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes >> process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive >>

Re: F38 proposal: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 13.0, binutils 2.39, glibc 2.37, gdb 12.1) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 2:02 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchainF38 > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will only be