again, was Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you. (fwd)

2011-01-28 Thread Paul Wouters
to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you. On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 02:55:53AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: FYI, FESCo decided on this particular issue that a provenpackager can fix tor to comply with our

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-06-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 02:55:53AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: FYI, FESCo decided on this particular issue that a provenpackager can fix tor to comply with our initscripts guidelines for released Fedoras. (As far as I know, the maintainer already fixed the Rawhide package.) It's true; it is

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-06-02 Thread Ryan Rix
On Tue 1 June 2010 8:48:02 am Paul Wouters wrote: I'm getting seriously tired of this tor package discussion every six months. Seriously, just rip out the childish %post crap, and remove all the non-fedora initscript sub package nonsense. This is not the Enrico Project. Halfway there, if

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-06-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 16:55:26 -0400, Paul Wouters p...@xelerance.com wrote: Fixing init scripts and %post is now left in the state maintainer is too busy to fix. In the past I already offered co-maintainership or taking over the package due to my close relationship with upstream. It's a

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-06-01 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Fixing init scripts and %post is now left in the state maintainer is too busy to fix. In the past I already offered co-maintainership or taking over the package due to my close relationship with upstream. It's a lame excuse for leaving it in the

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-06-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 11:48:02 -0400, Paul Wouters p...@xelerance.com wrote: On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Fixing init scripts and %post is now left in the state maintainer is too busy to fix. In the past I already offered co-maintainership or taking over the package due to

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-06-01 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Does FESCO know you'd be willing to become the maintainer? I've definately talked to quite a few of them (online and in person) over the years this has been going on. I even had a tor package made and submitted it, but Enrico and my package crossed

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-06-01 Thread Chen Lei
2010/6/1 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to: I've definately talked to quite a few of them (online and in person) over the years this has been going on. I even had a tor package made and submitted it, but Enrico and my package crossed paths and his was a day earlier, so his personal version

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-06-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chen Lei wrote: The maintainer refuse some others to co-maintain tor package or help him to solve this issue. It's a bit complicated to fix this, fedora policy seems don't permit provenpackagers to commit a package if the maintainer are very unwilling to do so. It should be decided by fesco

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-06-01 Thread Chen Lei
2010/6/2 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Chen Lei wrote: The maintainer refuse some others to co-maintain tor package or help him to solve this issue. It's a bit complicated to fix this, fedora policy seems don't permit provenpackagers to commit a package if the maintainer are very

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-05-31 Thread Ryan Rix
On Sat 29 May 2010 11:10:35 pm Matthew Miller wrote: And this one is: packages should not print out messages complaining about the state of other packages in Fedora. That's not the right process for solving those issues. If redhat-lsb is broken, there's a procedure for dealing with that, and

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-05-31 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 31 May 2010, Ryan Rix wrote: Airing out our dirty laundry for our users to see is not something that we should allow or promote. I'm all for reporting errors, but b*tching to users? No. I'm going to file a bug on this if someone else has not. It's been filed many times, duplicated

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-05-31 Thread Ryan Rix
On Mon 31 May 2010 1:55:26 pm Paul Wouters wrote: since that's the preference of the maintainer, which violates fedora packagaging policies Then a provenpackager should fix it regardless of whether the maintainer is too busy to fix it. and even then, they shouldn't be maintaining packages

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-05-31 Thread Chen Lei
2010/6/1 Ryan Rix r...@n.rix.si: On Mon 31 May 2010 1:55:26 pm Paul Wouters wrote: since that's the preference of the maintainer, which violates fedora packagaging policies Then a provenpackager should fix it regardless of whether the maintainer is too busy to fix it. and even then, they

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-05-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 01:38:15PM +0800, Chen Lei wrote: It's actually the same problem and both caused by the misusing of redhat-lsb. The tor package looks very different from other daemons in fedora, e.g. vsftpd squid etc, a small package with so many subpackages and a metapackage seems

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-05-30 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sun, 30 May 2010, Matthew Miller wrote: For the purposes of this complaint, I don't care. I do care that whenever you install the package, it spits out this gem: oouch... redhat-lsb is still broken. See the report https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522053 for details. This

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-05-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 00:39:14 -0400, Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org wrote: So, clearly, there's some disagreement about what's fixed and what's broken. But printing out a passive-agressive warning to end-users is not the solution. The error message is confusing and very, very

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-05-29 Thread Chen Lei
2010/5/30 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 00:39:14 -0400,  Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org wrote: So, clearly, there's some disagreement about what's fixed and what's broken. But printing out a passive-agressive warning to end-users is not the solution. The error

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-05-29 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:06:12AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: See: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/347 Yeah, I remember this coming up before with the issue of zillions of dependencies. The problem here is the output. I know (as discussed in that ticket, actually) that the Fedora

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-05-29 Thread Chen Lei
2010/5/30 Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:06:12AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: See: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/347 Yeah, I remember this coming up before with the issue of zillions of dependencies. The problem here is the output. I know (as discussed