Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-26 Thread Steven James Drinnan
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 09:33 +1000, Chris Jones wrote: > >>On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Frank Murphy > wrote: > On 19/04/10 23:51, Slava Zanko wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi folk, > > > > I want to

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On 21/04/10 07:00, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Slava Zanko wrote: >> For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, >> fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing >> (shell aliasing) these and much more utilz to another names? --snip-- > 5. IMHO, that k

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Slava Zanko wrote: > For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, > fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing > (shell aliasing) these and much more utilz to another names? No. It's a quite silly idea. 1. Those tools have been called like that

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Thomas Janssen wrote: > Agreed. Plus a command like: filesystem.remove would confuse and scare > novices. "Ugh, that removes my filesystem" Well, if it scares them enough not to abuse rm -rf, that's a good thing. ;-) IMHO file deletions should always be performed through a graphical file manager

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Brian Wheeler
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 10:00 +0300, Slava Zanko wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Frank Murphy wrote: > > Bookmark this: http://ss64.com/bash/ > I know about :) This idea just try for standartization of command > names... I know about posix and LSB, but these standards

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Chris Jones
>>On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 19/04/10 23:51, Slava Zanko wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi folk, > > > > I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... > > > > For example, all present utilites have sence jus

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 16:56 +0200, Alexander Boström wrote: > tis 2010-04-20 klockan 01:51 +0300 skrev Slava Zanko: > > > For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, > > fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing > > (shell aliasing) these and

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Alexander Boström
tis 2010-04-20 klockan 01:51 +0300 skrev Slava Zanko: > For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, > fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing > (shell aliasing) these and much more utilz to another names? The present utilities makes sense

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
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Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Slava Zanko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 drago01 wrote: >> I also against making it global by default. But this can be done >> in separate folder, not to standard /usr/bin, and then added for >> users who want it just add it into PATH. Yep, of course. This idea unobtrusive and don't hard for

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: >> >> I'm against making a mess of PATH with a crapload of symlinks. >> If this were to happen, it should happen at a bashrc alias level, and even >> then I'm still against it. >> > > i agree, also the proposed commands are too long to be ty

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: > 20.04.2010 03:29, Ryan Rix пишет: >> On Mon 19 April 2010 3:51:23 pm Slava Zanko wrote: >> >>> Hi folk, >>> >>> I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... >>> >>> For example, all present utilites

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
20.04.2010 03:29, Ryan Rix пишет: > On Mon 19 April 2010 3:51:23 pm Slava Zanko wrote: > >> Hi folk, >> >> I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... >> >> For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, >> fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Slava Zanko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank Murphy wrote: > Bookmark this: http://ss64.com/bash/ I know about :) This idea just try for standartization of command names... I know about posix and LSB, but these standards don't make logic in the names of commands. Okay, as I see, this idea

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Slava Zanko wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi folk, > > I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... > > For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, > fsck etc), but for novies it's hard

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On 19/04/10 23:51, Slava Zanko wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi folk, > > I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... > > For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, > fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Bookma

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/4/20 Bernd Stramm : > On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 02:06 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> Hi, >> >> 2010/4/20 Slava Zanko : >> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> > Hash: SHA1 >> > >> > Hi folk, >> > >> > I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... >> > >> > For example,

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 02:06 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > > 2010/4/20 Slava Zanko : > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi folk, > > > > I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... > > > > For example, all present utilites have sence just

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2010/4/20 Slava Zanko : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi folk, > > I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... > > For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, > fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 01:51 +0300, Slava Zanko wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi folk, > > I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... > > For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, > fsck etc), but for novies it's h

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
> > i agree, also the proposed commands are too long to be typed in the terminal. > > they look like name-spaces in a programming language > > Best regards Maybe PASH is what you are searching: http://pash.sourceforge.net/ -- Athmane Madjoudj -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Chris Tyler
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 01:51 +0300, Slava Zanko wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi folk, > > I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... > > For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, > fsck etc), but for novies it's h

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
> > I'm against making a mess of PATH with a crapload of symlinks. > If this were to happen, it should happen at a bashrc alias level, and even > then I'm still against it. > i agree, also the proposed commands are too long to be typed in the terminal. they look like name-spaces in a programming

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Ryan Rix
On Mon 19 April 2010 3:51:23 pm Slava Zanko wrote: > Hi folk, > > I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... > > For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, > fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing > (shell aliasin

Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Slava Zanko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folk, I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing (shell aliasing) these and much