Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-22 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Garrett Holmstrom gho...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 2011-07-20 9:18, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Benjamin Lewisben.le...@benl.co.uk  wrote: Out of curiosity, how does this affect existing systems which have human UIDs of 500, 501,

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 12:57 -0400, James Antill wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 22:59 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:55 PM, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Is it really necessary to change this in %pre ... can't you just copy your old login.defs file

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:57 PM, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 22:59 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:55 PM, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote:  Is it really necessary to change this in %pre ... can't you just copy your

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 13:59 -0400, seth vidal wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 12:57 -0400, James Antill wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 22:59 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:55 PM, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Is it really necessary to change this in

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 17:02 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 13:59 -0400, seth vidal wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 12:57 -0400, James Antill wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 22:59 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:55 PM, James Antill

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 17:08 -0400, seth vidal wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 17:02 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 13:59 -0400, seth vidal wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 12:57 -0400, James Antill wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 22:59 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Wed, Jul

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Miloslav Trmač wrote: No, applications expect system accounts and user accounts to have non-overlapping ID intervals. So this would be just a more broken version of keeping the limit at 500. +1. And keeping consistency with other distros. Definitely the right move, since UID=1000 is the

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread John Reiser
On 07/21/2011 03:42 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Miloslav Trmač wrote: No, applications expect system accounts and user accounts to have non-overlapping ID intervals. So this would be just a more broken version of keeping the limit at 500. +1. And keeping consistency with other

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 2011-07-20 9:18, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Benjamin Lewisben.le...@benl.co.uk wrote: Out of curiosity, how does this affect existing systems which have human UIDs of 500, 501, etc..? Do they suddenly become system UIDs or is login.defs left alone then (and

Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Hello all, Fedora 16 will start user UIDs and GIDs at 1000 instead of 500[1]. Unfortunately some packages need to know the boundary, and usually hard-code it. I have checked the most common packages[2], but I can't check all 10 thousand packages, and I your help with this. Please check the

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Benjamin Lewis
On 07/20/2011 04:07 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: Hello all, Fedora 16 will start user UIDs and GIDs at 1000 instead of 500[1]. Unfortunately some packages need to know the boundary, and usually hard-code it. I have checked the most common packages[2], but I can't check all 10 thousand

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Benjamin Lewis ben.le...@benl.co.uk wrote: On 07/20/2011 04:07 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: Hello all, Fedora 16 will start user UIDs and GIDs at 1000 instead of 500[1]. Unfortunately some packages need to know the boundary, and usually hard-code it.  I have

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/20/2011 12:18 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Benjamin Lewisben.le...@benl.co.uk wrote: On 07/20/2011 04:07 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: Hello all, Fedora 16 will start user UIDs and GIDs at 1000 instead of 500[1]. Unfortunately some packages need to know the

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Wheeler rwhee...@redhat.com wrote: I normally build systems with (at least!) a separate /boot, / and /home. This lets me do a full install, blow away old fedora system partitions and not lose any user data. Since that puts down a pristine F16 image, does

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/20/2011 12:28 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Wheelerrwhee...@redhat.com wrote: I normally build systems with (at least!) a separate /boot, / and /home. This lets me do a full install, blow away old fedora system partitions and not lose any user data.

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 12:29 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: On 07/20/2011 12:28 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Wheelerrwhee...@redhat.com wrote: I normally build systems with (at least!) a separate /boot, / and /home. This lets me do a full install, blow away old

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 16:15:34 +, Benjamin Lewis ben.le...@benl.co.uk wrote: Out of curiosity, how does this affect existing systems which have human UIDs of 500, 501, etc..? Do they suddenly become system UIDs or is login.defs left alone then (and consequently no change happens)?

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/20/2011 01:19 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 12:29 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: On 07/20/2011 12:28 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Wheelerrwhee...@redhat.com wrote: I normally build systems with (at least!) a separate /boot, / and /home. This

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 13:52 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: On 07/20/2011 01:19 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 12:29 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: On 07/20/2011 12:28 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Wheelerrwhee...@redhat.com wrote: I normally build

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/20/2011 02:06 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 13:52 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: On 07/20/2011 01:19 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 12:29 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: On 07/20/2011 12:28 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread James Antill
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 18:28 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Wheeler rwhee...@redhat.com wrote: I normally build systems with (at least!) a separate /boot, / and /home. This lets me do a full install, blow away old fedora system partitions and not lose any

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:55 PM, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 18:28 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Wheeler rwhee...@redhat.com wrote: I normally build systems with (at least!) a separate /boot, / and /home. This lets me