On 6/29/23 09:55, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> The rpm integration doesn't technically require systemd-sysusers, we can
> write a script that calls useradd/groupadd instead. So for us it becomes
> a choice between writing that script or adding audit support to
> systemd-sysusers. Writing a script based
On Thu, Jun 29, 2023, at 3:55 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
>> last time I looked auditd is started later than
>> systemd-sysusers. Hence not sure if sysusers would actually generate
>> audit messages that auditd could pick them up.
>
> For the rpm integration, "started later" is irrelevant as the us
On 6/28/23 17:15, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Di, 27.06.23 12:04, Panu Matilainen (pmati...@redhat.com) wrote:
On 6/22/23 19:55, Steve Grubb wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Adopting_sysusers.d_format
I would caution against this whole proposal. Not that I'm against it, but
ju
On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 10:15:48 AM EDT Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Di, 27.06.23 12:04, Panu Matilainen (pmati...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > On 6/22/23 19:55, Steve Grubb wrote:
> > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Adopting_sysusers.d_format
> > >
> > > I would caution against this wh
On Di, 27.06.23 12:04, Panu Matilainen (pmati...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On 6/22/23 19:55, Steve Grubb wrote:
>
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Adopting_sysusers.d_format
> >
> > I would caution against this whole proposal. Not that I'm against it, but
> > just saying be careful doing it
On 6/22/23 19:55, Steve Grubb wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Adopting_sysusers.d_format
I would caution against this whole proposal. Not that I'm against it, but
just saying be careful doing it. People often forget about our security
concerns. Currently, shadow-utils has about 4
On Do, 22.06.23 10:25, Chris Adams (li...@cmadams.net) wrote:
> Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said:
> > I was hoping we would be make the dependency on setup optional.
> > It is a fairly heavyweight package (700+ kb) and with lots of
> > not-that-useful-on-a-typical-modern-install
On 6/23/23 21:20, Michal Domonkos wrote:
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 01:18:27PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
Now that the initial hurdle of getting rpm 4.19 into rawhide is over, it's
time to start looking towards enabling the sysusers integration:
https://rpm-software-management.github.io/rpm/manu
On 6/22/23 18:01, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 01:18:27PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
Hey all,
Now that the initial hurdle of getting rpm 4.19 into rawhide is over, it's
time to start looking towards enabling the sysusers integration:
https://rpm-software-managem
On 6/22/23 19:55, Steve Grubb wrote:
Hello,
On Thursday, June 22, 2023 11:01:28 AM EDT Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
2. systemd provides users and groups that are actually owned by the setup
package. As rpm is now turning non-root file ownership into dependencies,
systemd could end up pull
* Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 10:25:10AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
>> Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said:
>> > I was hoping we would be make the dependency on setup optional.
>> > It is a fairly heavyweight package (700+ kb) and with lots of
>> > not-tha
On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 01:22:22AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> I don't think so. Either way, the actual implementation is going to be a call
> to
> systemd-sysusers. But the rpm-internal approach is quite different in how the
> call is constructed from the macro-based approach, so
Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said:
> getservbyname would use /etc/services, but I'm not sure how widely it is used.
> A lot of code just hardcodes a specific number… Local configuration for
> port numbers is a concept that only works if somebody synchronizes the
> file across mach
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 08:20:58PM +0200, Michal Domonkos wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 01:18:27PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> > Now that the initial hurdle of getting rpm 4.19 into rawhide is over, it's
> > time to start looking towards enabling the sysusers integration:
> > https://rpm-sof
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 10:25:10AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said:
> > I was hoping we would be make the dependency on setup optional.
> > It is a fairly heavyweight package (700+ kb) and with lots of
> > not-that-useful-on-a-typical-modern-installat
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 01:18:27PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> Now that the initial hurdle of getting rpm 4.19 into rawhide is over, it's
> time to start looking towards enabling the sysusers integration:
> https://rpm-software-management.github.io/rpm/manual/users_and_groups.html
[...]
> 3.
Dne 22. 06. 23 v 17:01 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a):
I don't remember seeing an actual Fedora Change for either file-trigger
enablement or current %sysuser_* macros so I'm not sure it's needed here
either?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Adopting_sysusers.d_format
Please create
Hello,
On Thursday, June 22, 2023 11:01:28 AM EDT Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > 2. systemd provides users and groups that are actually owned by the setup
> > package. As rpm is now turning non-root file ownership into dependencies,
> > systemd could end up pulled in where setup is needed
Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said:
> I was hoping we would be make the dependency on setup optional.
> It is a fairly heavyweight package (700+ kb) and with lots of
> not-that-useful-on-a-typical-modern-installation stuff (mail alias support,
> csh profile, /etc/hosts, nfs exports
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 01:18:27PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Now that the initial hurdle of getting rpm 4.19 into rawhide is over, it's
> time to start looking towards enabling the sysusers integration:
> https://rpm-software-management.github.io/rpm/manual/users_and_groups.html
Hey all,
Now that the initial hurdle of getting rpm 4.19 into rawhide is over,
it's time to start looking towards enabling the sysusers integration:
https://rpm-software-management.github.io/rpm/manual/users_and_groups.html
We (as in rpm-team) are not pushing for doing all this in Fedora 39,
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