Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-06-01 Thread Ondrej Vasik
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 11:47 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 09:27:21AM +0200, Peter Vrabec wrote: > > > > We can also annouce the 200 limit for reserved IDs. ;) > > > > > > We can't just make changes to this range. Especially not in the lower > > > end of it. (and if we c

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 09:27:21AM +0200, Peter Vrabec wrote: > Hi, > > On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 08:07:32 PM Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:55 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Tuesday, May 24, 2011 05:25:44 PM Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > >> On Tue, May 24,

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:59:20 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 09:53 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > > > Yeah I noticed as well that it tells you you are already logged in if > > you login in a vt. That seem a much more serious bug. > > gdm tells you you're already logged in

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-27 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 15:38 -0300, Evandro Fernandes Giovanini wrote: > Em Sex, 2011-05-27 às 14:20 -0400, Simo Sorce escreveu: > > On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 10:59 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 09:53 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > > > > > > > Yeah I noticed as well that it tell

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-27 Thread Evandro Fernandes Giovanini
Em Sex, 2011-05-27 às 14:20 -0400, Simo Sorce escreveu: > On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 10:59 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 09:53 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > > > > > Yeah I noticed as well that it tells you you are already logged in if > > > you login in a vt. That seem a much mor

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-27 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 10:59 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 09:53 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > > > Yeah I noticed as well that it tells you you are already logged in if > > you login in a vt. That seem a much more serious bug. > > gdm tells you you're already logged in, but th

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 09:53 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > Yeah I noticed as well that it tells you you are already logged in if > you login in a vt. That seem a much more serious bug. gdm tells you you're already logged in, but that doesn't stop you logging in again. it's purely informational. I'm

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 09:42:26 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > > If you click 'other' and type in your username it allows you to login > right ? > Does it "remember" your name once you logout ? > > If not I call it a bug in gdm. I wasn't given the other option. Possibly because I have no account

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-27 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 08:35 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 08:25:21 -0500, > Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 00:30:53 -0700, > > > > I can tell you they didn't. I can't login with gdm right now, most likely > > because of this. gdm runs but doesn't li

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 08:25:21 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 00:30:53 -0700, > > I can tell you they didn't. I can't login with gdm right now, most likely > because of this. gdm runs but doesn't list any accounts. > gdm should be looking at shells, not uids to decide

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-27 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 08:25 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 00:30:53 -0700, > Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > > > On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 20:04 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > >> reserved/system IDs are supposed t

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 00:30:53 -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 20:04 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >> reserved/system IDs are supposed to be once that has been done we can > >> start looking at what is th

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-26 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 08:52:34AM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 07:39 +0200, Alexander Boström wrote: > > ons 2011-05-25 klockan 12:37 -0500 skrev Dennis Gilmore: > > > > > another issue that i thought of was existing ldap/nis systems that > > > allocate > > > regular users i

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-26 Thread Alexander Boström
tor 2011-05-26 klockan 08:52 -0400 skrev Simo Sorce: > On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 07:39 +0200, Alexander Boström wrote: > > Personally I think UIDs and their relation to user accounts should be > > treated as host-local. I also want a pony. > > It would be nice, but then there is NFS ... Oh yes I'm

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-26 Thread Jesse Keating
On 5/26/11 5:56 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: > system users now have more space but they are not going to immediately > overflow about the uid 500 area, for most installations they will still > keeping being well below 500. And if your LDAP server has IDs below 500 > you are already in a world of pain. If

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-26 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 00:30 -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 20:04 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >> reserved/system IDs are supposed to be once that has been done we can > >> start looking at what is the best a

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-26 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 19:04 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 03:14:43 PM Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 20:04 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > On 05/25/2011 06:14 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > Coordination would be nice if we can decide on how w

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-26 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 07:39 +0200, Alexander Boström wrote: > ons 2011-05-25 klockan 12:37 -0500 skrev Dennis Gilmore: > > > another issue that i thought of was existing ldap/nis systems that allocate > > regular users in the 500-1000 range when installing or upgrading if they > > use > > polic

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-26 Thread Ondrej Vasik
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 09:27 +0200, Peter Vrabec wrote: > Hi, > > On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 08:07:32 PM Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:55 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: > > > We can also annouce the 200 limit for reserved IDs. ;) > > > > We can't just make changes to this range.

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-26 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 20:04 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> reserved/system IDs are supposed to be once that has been done we can >> start looking at what is the best approach to implement and or fix >> things that might break because o

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-26 Thread Peter Vrabec
Hi, On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 08:07:32 PM Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:55 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tuesday, May 24, 2011 05:25:44 PM Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > I'd like

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-25 Thread Alexander Boström
ons 2011-05-25 klockan 12:37 -0500 skrev Dennis Gilmore: > another issue that i thought of was existing ldap/nis systems that allocate > regular users in the 500-1000 range when installing or upgrading if they use > policies that probit system accounts from logging in will have users unable > t

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-25 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 03:14:43 PM Simo Sorce wrote: > On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 20:04 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 05/25/2011 06:14 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > Coordination would be nice if we can decide on how we can sanely make > > > changes to this. > > > > I would think f

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-25 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 05/25/2011 08:14 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 20:04 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> On 05/25/2011 06:14 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >>> Coordination would be nice if we can decide on how we can sanely make >>> changes to this. >> I would think first is to reach conscious

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-25 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 20:04 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 05/25/2011 06:14 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > Coordination would be nice if we can decide on how we can sanely make > > changes to this. > > I would think first is to reach consciousness on what the Do you mean consesus ? W

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-25 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 05/25/2011 06:14 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Coordination would be nice if we can decide on how we can sanely make > changes to this. I would think first is to reach consciousness on what the reserved/system IDs are supposed to be once that has been done we can start looking at what is the b

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
2011/5/25 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" : > On 05/25/2011 12:30 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> On Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:25:44 AM Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >>> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Peter Vrabec  wrote: Hi all, I'd like to inform you that I have changed UID_MIN&  GID_MIN from 500 t

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:55 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: > Hi, > > On Tuesday, May 24, 2011 05:25:44 PM Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I'd like to inform you that I have changed UID_MIN & GID_MIN from 500 to >> > 1000 in upgraded

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-25 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 03:55:55 AM Peter Vrabec wrote: > Hi, > > On Tuesday, May 24, 2011 05:25:44 PM Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'd like to inform you that I have changed UID_MIN & GID_MIN from 500 > > > to 1000

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-25 Thread Iain Arnell
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: > > I'm not against wider announcement. I'm just not sure what is the right way - > F16 Feature/Release Notes/ ? How about slashdot's front page? Must be a really slow news day. http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/05/25/1312200/Fedora-16-

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-25 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 05/25/2011 12:30 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:25:44 AM Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'd like to inform you that I have changed UID_MIN& GID_MIN from 500 to >>> 1000 in upgraded shadow-utils. >>> >>

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-25 Thread Ondrej Vasik
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 10:55 +0200, Peter Vrabec wrote: > Hi, > > On Tuesday, May 24, 2011 05:25:44 PM Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'd like to inform you that I have changed UID_MIN & GID_MIN from 500 to > > > 1000 in u

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-25 Thread Peter Vrabec
Hi, On Tuesday, May 24, 2011 05:25:44 PM Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'd like to inform you that I have changed UID_MIN & GID_MIN from 500 to > > 1000 in upgraded shadow-utils. > > > > Where? > > /etc/login.defs. > > shadow-u

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-24 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:25:44 AM Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'd like to inform you that I have changed UID_MIN & GID_MIN from 500 to > > 1000 in upgraded shadow-utils. > > > > Where? > > /etc/login.defs. > > shadow-utils-

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-24 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 10:45 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > On 05/24/2011 09:20 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 08:25 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > >> * This could potentially break sites that are currently using the > >> 500-1000 UID range and rely on the order of allocation of UI

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-24 Thread John Reiser
On 05/24/2011 09:20 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 08:25 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> * This could potentially break sites that are currently using the >> 500-1000 UID range and rely on the order of allocation of UIDs for >> their users on new machines matching with the UIDs on

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 24.05.11 12:20, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote: > > * AFAIK, we actually have not run into the 500 uid limit yet (although > > it is a bit low to be comfortable) > > * AFAIK, we've only allocated the range 0-100 for reserved IDs. > > * The 0-100 reserved IDs are actually the pain poin

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-24 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 08:25 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'd like to inform you that I have changed UID_MIN & GID_MIN from 500 to > > 1000 > > in upgraded shadow-utils. > > > > Where? > > /etc/login.defs. > > shadow-utils

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to inform you that I have changed UID_MIN & GID_MIN from 500 to 1000 > in upgraded shadow-utils. > > Where? > /etc/login.defs. > shadow-utils-4.1.4.3-1.fc16 > > I suppose UID/GID_MIN=1000 is more common(other distros, upst

UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-24 Thread Peter Vrabec
Hi all, I'd like to inform you that I have changed UID_MIN & GID_MIN from 500 to 1000 in upgraded shadow-utils. Where? /etc/login.defs. shadow-utils-4.1.4.3-1.fc16 I suppose UID/GID_MIN=1000 is more common(other distros, upstream). We are not in situation that 500 IDs for system accounts ought