Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-04 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 04. 11. 19 16:23, Randy Barlow wrote: On Sun, 2019-11-03 at 20:28 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 03. 11. 19 20:24, Miro Hrončok wrote: Hero maintenance I don't normally correct my typos on mailing lists to avoid further e-mails, but this one is particularly bad. I meant "zero" of course.

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-04 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sun, 2019-11-03 at 20:28 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 03. 11. 19 20:24, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hero maintenance > > I don't normally correct my typos on mailing lists to avoid further > e-mails, but > this one is particularly bad. I meant "zero" of course. Sorry about > that. I disagree

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-04 Thread Bartek
Back in May I've got all 26478 questions (from all language sections) backed-up with wget, after removing JS (embedded and standalone files) they take up ~890MiB of disk space. A few dozen questions with multiple pages of answers have only the first page with top rated answers saved. I removed

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 at 16:22, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > I do not disagree with you on this. I also know we don't have a larger > > number of system administrators, servers and time to do all the things > > many community members 'expect a project to have'. We have the

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-04 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 13:19:41 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 03. 11. 19 23:32, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 at 14:29, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > > > On 03. 11. 19 20:24, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > Hero maintenance > > > > > > I don't normally correct my typos on mailing

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-04 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 03. 11. 19 23:32, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 at 14:29, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 03. 11. 19 20:24, Miro Hrončok wrote: Hero maintenance I don't normally correct my typos on mailing lists to avoid further e-mails, but this one is particularly bad. I meant "zero" of

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 at 14:29, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 03. 11. 19 20:24, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hero maintenance > > I don't normally correct my typos on mailing lists to avoid further e-mails, > but > this one is particularly bad. I meant "zero" of course. Sorry about that. > I was going for

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > I do not disagree with you on this. I also know we don't have a larger > number of system administrators, servers and time to do all the things > many community members 'expect a project to have'. We have the > resources to do one set of things excellently, two well,

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 03. 11. 19 20:24, Miro Hrončok wrote: Hero maintenance I don't normally correct my typos on mailing lists to avoid further e-mails, but this one is particularly bad. I meant "zero" of course. Sorry about that. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 03. 11. 19 16:50, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 at 05:33, Miro Hrončok wrote: IMHO It should give the useres the new full link. If that would not be possible, maybe it could read: "Oh no, this page is not here. Try replacing ask.fedoraproject.org with

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 at 12:50, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > These systems are not small tasks to keep up and running.. the > > upstream code is not 'static' or backportable so you are constantly > > updating to upstream to keep up with CVE security. There are also > >

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > These systems are not small tasks to keep up and running.. the > upstream code is not 'static' or backportable so you are constantly > updating to upstream to keep up with CVE security. There are also > regular schema changes and a ton of packaging items which need

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 at 05:33, Miro Hrončok wrote: > IMHO It should give the useres the new full link. > > If that would not be possible, maybe it could read: > > "Oh no, this page is not here. Try replacing ask.fedoraproject.org with > askbot.fedoraproject.org to get archived content of this

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 02. 11. 19 9:23, Ankur Sinha wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 09:12:21 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 01. 11. 19 22:58, Tim Jackson wrote: I realise this is not exactly news, but when replacing Ask Fedora, was there a reason to break all the links on the entire web to existing solutions, rather

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 at 14:03, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > James Cassell wrote: > > When I asked, the answer was that it costs money to do custom redirects, > > and the old site is going away "soon" so it would be overcome by events > > sooner or later. > > This just shows how bad an idea it is to rely

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-02 Thread James Cassell
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > James Cassell wrote: > > When I asked, the answer was that it costs money to do custom redirects, > > and the old site is going away "soon" so it would be overcome by events > > sooner or later. > > This just shows how bad an idea it is to

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
James Cassell wrote: > When I asked, the answer was that it costs money to do custom redirects, > and the old site is going away "soon" so it would be overcome by events > sooner or later. This just shows how bad an idea it is to rely on third-party-hosted services. If this were self-hosted Free

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-02 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 10:51:08 +0100, Markus Larsson wrote: > > If this has made you feel bad I apologize. I mean you no harm in any way. > Clearly my tone has been off here since I managed to offend you. No worries. I am sorry too---my tone wasn't the best either. -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-02 Thread Markus Larsson
On 2 November 2019 10:18:20 CET, Ankur Sinha wrote: >On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 09:23:37 +0100, Markus Larsson wrote: >> Not having this planned for and sorted before the change is sloppy. >> Sadly this kind of attitude towards breakage in a production >> environment seems makes fedora look bad and

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-02 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 09:23:37 +0100, Markus Larsson wrote: > Not having this planned for and sorted before the change is sloppy. > Sadly this kind of attitude towards breakage in a production > environment seems makes fedora look bad and like we as a community > can't even keep simple services

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-02 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 22:58:00 +0100, Tim Jackson wrote: > I realise this is not exactly news, but when replacing Ask Fedora, was there > a reason to break all the links on the entire web to existing solutions, > rather than just putting the new system on a different domain? Or, failing > that, at

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-02 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 09:12:21 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 01. 11. 19 22:58, Tim Jackson wrote: > > I realise this is not exactly news, but when replacing Ask Fedora, was > > there a reason to break all the links on the entire web to existing > > solutions, rather than just putting the new

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-02 Thread Markus Larsson
On 2 November 2019 09:12:21 CET, "Miro Hrončok" wrote: >On 01. 11. 19 22:58, Tim Jackson wrote: >> I realise this is not exactly news, but when replacing Ask Fedora, >was there a >> reason to break all the links on the entire web to existing >solutions, rather >> than just putting the new

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-02 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 01. 11. 19 22:58, Tim Jackson wrote: I realise this is not exactly news, but when replacing Ask Fedora, was there a reason to break all the links on the entire web to existing solutions, rather than just putting the new system on a different domain? Or, failing that, at least adding

Re: ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-01 Thread James Cassell
On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 5:58 PM, Tim Jackson wrote: > I realise this is not exactly news, but when replacing Ask Fedora, was there > a > reason to break all the links on the entire web to existing solutions, rather > than just putting the new system on a different domain? Or, failing that, at

ask.fedoraproject.org - redirects?

2019-11-01 Thread Tim Jackson
I realise this is not exactly news, but when replacing Ask Fedora, was there a reason to break all the links on the entire web to existing solutions, rather than just putting the new system on a different domain? Or, failing that, at least adding (conditional) redirects and/or links to the