Re: Is `/etc/sysconfig/desktop` still used?

2022-07-29 Thread Ankur Sinha
> > 2) is still sourced from '/etc/X11/xinit/Xclients' for two envvars: > - 'DESKTOP' - nickname for one from recognized sessions (GNOME, KDE, MATE > or LXDE). > - 'PREFERRED' - in case when 'DESKTOP' unset/unrecognized, this variable > should be path for program starting graphical session (for

Re: Is `/etc/sysconfig/desktop` still used?

2022-07-26 Thread Franta Hanzlík via devel
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 10:09:39 +0100 Ankur Sinha wrote: > Hi folks, > > While updating this quick-doc, I came across the last section where > `/etc/sysconfig/desktop` is mentioned as a config file to change default > desktop environment etc. > > https://docs.fedoraproject

Is `/etc/sysconfig/desktop` still used?

2022-07-26 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hi folks, While updating this quick-doc, I came across the last section where `/etc/sysconfig/desktop` is mentioned as a config file to change default desktop environment etc. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/switching-desktop-environments/ I haven't been able to find any

Re: Fedora 30 System-Wide Change: Deprecating /etc/sysconfig/nfs

2018-10-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 09:28:41AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > == Upgrade/compatibility impact == > In [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1619270 BZ1619270] a > python script that will convert a sysconfig/nfs config into nfs.conf > config. There are a couple thoughts on how to use it.

Re: Fedora 30 System-Wide Change: Deprecating /etc/sysconfig/nfs

2018-10-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 12:41:01PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 09:28:41AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > == Upgrade/compatibility impact == > > In [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1619270 BZ1619270] a > > python script that will convert a

Fedora 30 System-Wide Change: Deprecating /etc/sysconfig/nfs

2018-10-17 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/nfs.conf == Summary == Deprecate /etc/sysconfig/nfs and only use /etc/nfs.conf to configure NFS daemons. == Owner == * Name: Steve Dickson * Email: ste...@redhat.com == Detailed Description == Since the beginning /etc/sysconfig/nfs has been used

[389-devel] please review: Ticket 48950 - don't EXPORT variables from /etc/sysconfig/dirsrv

2016-08-24 Thread Mark Reynolds
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/48950 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/48950/0001-Ticket-48950-don-t-EXPORT-varaibles-from-etc-sysconf.patch -- 389-devel mailing list 389-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/389-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

how is create or how I recreate /etc/sysconfig/kernel

2016-05-21 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi,  Today after round and round and since begging of Fedora with grub2. I think this page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2#Setting_default_e ntry (on setting one default entry) is missing mention that we need set UPDATEDEFAULT=no in /etc/sysconfig/kernel, for when is running /sbin/new-kernel

[amavisd-new] init_network.patch: don't source /etc/sysconfig/network in initscript

2013-05-10 Thread Adam Williamson
commit 848975062c84ef81f2678ad2a77c2f3ece0e19c6 Author: Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com Date: Fri May 10 10:05:57 2013 -0700 init_network.patch: don't source /etc/sysconfig/network in initscript amavisd-new-2.8.0-init_network.patch | 13 + amavisd-new.spec

[amavisd-new/f19] init_network.patch: don't source /etc/sysconfig/network in initscript

2013-05-10 Thread Adam Williamson
Summary of changes: 8489750... init_network.patch: don't source /etc/sysconfig/network in (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel

Re: /etc/sysconfig/modules/

2012-09-26 Thread Antonio Trande
2012/9/19 Antonio Trande anto.tra...@gmail.com 2012/9/19 Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com Sérgio Basto (ser...@serjux.com) said: Hi, In my F17 system rpm -qf /etc/sysconfig/modules/* bluez-4.99-2.fc17.x86_64 qemu-system-x86-1.0.1-1.fc17.x86_64 on this http://fedora-os.org

Re: /etc/sysconfig/modules/

2012-09-26 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qua, 2012-09-26 at 17:04 +0200, Antonio Trande wrote: As long as another issue: at every reboot I am compelled to restart 'fedora-loadmodules.service', otherwise the problem with vbox modules arises again. No , fedora-loadmodules.service run at startup by default . -- Sérgio M. B. --

Re: /etc/sysconfig/modules/

2012-09-26 Thread Antonio Trande
2012/9/26 Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com On Qua, 2012-09-26 at 17:04 +0200, Antonio Trande wrote: As long as another issue: at every reboot I am compelled to restart 'fedora-loadmodules.service', otherwise the problem with vbox modules arises again. No , fedora-loadmodules.service run at

Re: /etc/sysconfig/modules/

2012-09-26 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qua, 2012-09-26 at 19:23 +0200, Antonio Trande wrote: 2012/9/26 Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com On Qua, 2012-09-26 at 17:04 +0200, Antonio Trande wrote: As long as another issue: at every reboot I am compelled to restart 'fedora-loadmodules.service',

Re: /etc/sysconfig/modules/

2012-09-26 Thread Antonio Trande
2012/9/26 Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com On Qua, 2012-09-26 at 19:23 +0200, Antonio Trande wrote: 2012/9/26 Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com On Qua, 2012-09-26 at 17:04 +0200, Antonio Trande wrote: As long as another issue: at every reboot I am compelled to restart

Re: /etc/sysconfig/modules/

2012-09-19 Thread Antonio Trande
2012/9/19 Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com Sérgio Basto (ser...@serjux.com) said: Hi, In my F17 system rpm -qf /etc/sysconfig/modules/* bluez-4.99-2.fc17.x86_64 qemu-system-x86-1.0.1-1.fc17.x86_64 on this http://fedora-os.org/2012/09/13/workaround-for-vbox-modules-loading

Re: /etc/sysconfig/modules/

2012-09-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
Sérgio Basto (ser...@serjux.com) said: Hi, In my F17 system rpm -qf /etc/sysconfig/modules/* bluez-4.99-2.fc17.x86_64 qemu-system-x86-1.0.1-1.fc17.x86_64 on this http://fedora-os.org/2012/09/13/workaround-for-vbox-modules-loading/ Antonio Trande says that modules of vbox ( don't

Re: systemd vnc - how to properly handle /etc/sysconfig/vncservers

2011-07-20 Thread Tim Waugh
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 11:48 +0200, Adam Tkac wrote: Any idea how to handle the VNCSERVERS argument in backward-compatible way is welcomed, otherwise I will simply drop sysconfig support at all in the service file and admin will have to create /etc/systemd/system/ service files with appropriate

Re: systemd vnc - how to properly handle /etc/sysconfig/vncservers

2011-07-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 20.07.11 11:48, Adam Tkac (at...@redhat.com) wrote: Hello all, I'm trying to package systemd service file for tigervnc server and to find a solution how to make it backward-compatible with current format of the /etc/sysconfig/vncservers. Current /etc/sysconfig/vncservers has

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-19 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Lun 18 juillet 2011 20:57, Lennart Poettering a écrit : No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one, then fix the daemon, don't fake a configuration file. Well, really that's a bit rich comming

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-19 Thread Lucas
You know, I am not really developer, I just a user and my laptop starts only Xorg, Apache, DNS proxy (to filter web adv sites), Privoxy, Perl and something else. Right now systemd can't boot my system up, it hangs everything. So I fixed up upstart (mainly to be able use selinux and update the

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-19 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/19/2011 10:23 AM, Lucas wrote: Right now systemd can't boot my system up, it hangs everything. You're hitting a kernel bug, don't blame systemd. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-19 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 19.07.11 03:43, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Mon, 18.07.11 23:26, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: I can't see a reason to discuss /etc/sysconfig as a single unit, nor to argue

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-19 Thread Kay Sievers
'last one wins' behavior among multiple DMs. I suppose we could use alternatives for this, as much as I dislike it. I meant creating that symlink was the replacement for /etc/sysconfig/desktop, the end-user configuration. Yes, this link will replace the config file. As for what

on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Neal Becker
This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2011/7/18 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in /etc

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi, 2011/7/18 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/18/2011 06:57 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi, 2011/7/18 Neal Beckerndbeck...@gmail.com: This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html Generally speaking I

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi, 2011/7/18 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
/sysconfig http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in /etc/services.conf/ or something like that. No. There is no need

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Jeff Spaleta
and in the sense of political will to make the necessary changes.) The necessary political will to obsolete /etc/sysconfig may not exist at this very moment but I think that the reasoning is sound enough that anticipating, identifying and mitigating potential problems the removal would cause seems

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Tom Lane
Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com writes: On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Adam Miller
Software, and software that cannot be modified would not qualify as that. Lennart SNIP What about /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ ... where would be a more appropriate location for those? Not saying there isn't one, just wondering what the logical progression would

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 18.07.11 15:34, Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) wrote: Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com writes: On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Tom Lane
Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de writes: On Mon, 18.07.11 15:34, Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) wrote: Well, if they didn't need fixed before, they'll certainly need fixed when you make them start keeping their configuration info someplace else than /etc/sysconfig. This proposal sounds

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Kay Sievers
that is, since we need to remove it from the distro then. Fedora only includess Free Software, and software that cannot be modified would not qualify as that. Lennart SNIP What about /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ ... where would be a more appropriate location for those

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Kay Sievers
info someplace else than /etc/sysconfig.  This proposal sounds more like wait, systemd has not yet broken everything in sight, how can we solve that problem? than like something that will actually improve matters for anyone. What does systemd break in this regard? There's a big difference

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread mike cloaked
ship are easier to fix than the US deficit (in both the technical sense and in the sense of political will to make the necessary changes.) The necessary political will to obsolete /etc/sysconfig may not exist at this very moment but I think that the reasoning is sound enough that anticipating

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:46:30PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html I'm sympathetic to Lennart's arguments, but really this should be discussed and decided in the context of a real, open forum, drawing

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Simo Sorce
Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread drago01
Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi, 2011/7/18 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:42 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: I guess the process can be started - but by the time it is ready for prime time then any daemons that need to work should have been tested to work without the need for any /etc/sysconfig/... files - just by the way

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 18.07.11 21:57, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:46:30PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html I'm sympathetic to Lennart's arguments, but really

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread David Michael
Hi, On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:42 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: what then out of interest is the replacement for a /etc/sysconfig/desktop file that defines which login manager should be the default (and which is not there by default)? Can KDM then be started when X starts

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Mon, 18.07.11 21:57, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:46:30PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig http://0pointer.de/blog/projects

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
David Michael (fedora@gmail.com) said: what then out of interest is the replacement for a /etc/sysconfig/desktop file that defines which login manager should be the default (and which is not there by default)? Can KDM then be started when X starts and not GDM without the use

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Mike McGrath
...@gmail.com: This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in /etc

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 18.07.11 17:00, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote: Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in /etc/services.conf/ or something like that. No. There is no need

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 18.07.11 23:17, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: These interfaces introduced by systemd are actually discussed in quite some detail on the systemd irc channel and mailing list. It's a very open forum, you are welcome to join. So Fedora is the right place to discuss removal

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Miloslav Trmač
LSB? /etc/sysconfig is not a file format standard. /etc/sysconfig is not a place where configuration files of the same format or purpose are stored. /etc/sysconfig is not a place used to store configuration shared by independent software packages. /etc/sysconfig is not a software package. I can't

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread David Michael
Hi, On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Right, but that then causes 'last one wins' behavior among multiple DMs. I suppose we could use alternatives for this, as much as I dislike it. I meant creating that symlink was the replacement for /etc/sysconfig

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Kay Sievers
to go to the hospital to be cured. Pregnancy and /etc/sysconfig are perfectly natural and healthy.  Pregnant women and /etc/sysconfig both have perfectly valid use cases and do not need to be fixed :) Most pregnancies last ~40 weeks. If that takes much longer it needs to be fixed. Kay -- devel

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Kay Sievers
it. I meant creating that symlink was the replacement for /etc/sysconfig/desktop, the end-user configuration. Yes, this link will replace the config file. As for what packages do about their DM service files, I would agree with letting alternatives manage a default /lib/systemd/system/display

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
people from all of the Linux distros (possibly BSD etc too).  Perhaps LSB? /etc/sysconfig is not a file format standard. /etc/sysconfig is not a place where configuration files of the same format or purpose are stored. /etc/sysconfig is not a place used to store configuration shared

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Adam Williamson
someplace else than /etc/sysconfig. This proposal sounds more like wait, systemd has not yet broken everything in sight, how can we solve that problem? than like something that will actually improve matters for anyone. What does systemd break in this regard? There's a big difference between

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 23:14 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 18.07.11 21:57, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:46:30PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread David Michael
Hi, On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Kay Sievers kay.siev...@vrfy.org wrote: We should not let packages create config files in lib, lib is more for static content from rpms, not really for configuration. For the same reason, 'systemctl enable/disable' acts on /etc only. I had imagined using

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Jon Ciesla
ndbeck...@gmail.com: This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in /etc

Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
. Lennert's review of what we have currently in /etc/sysconfig is correct -- a horrid mess. A cleanup is needed. But we can't do away with the ability to override the shipped configuration. For example - I often use those overrides to point a daemon to a different config file or dir, so as to make