Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/18/18 9:24 AM, tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: Stephen Gallagher said: >> What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on a desktop/laptop that is hibernated? I know what I'd want to happen. > > See the other section of this thread; The VM hypervisor handles this, > not the client

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread tonynelson
Simo Sorce wrote: > On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 12:38 -0400, tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: ... >> No, but Android Mail sucks in very many ways. Replying by webmail. >> Anyone know of a good Android email client? > > K9 Mail is the best, paired with OpenKeychain I can even do encrypted > email

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 10/18/18 6:02 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > On 10/18/2018 07:58 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:27 PM Dusty Mabe wrote: >>> >>> >>> For BZ1206936 [1] we started adding resume= kernel command line by >>> default [2] in fedora installs. This is causing issues for

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 12:38 -0400, tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: > > tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: > > >  Stephen Gallagher said: > > > >  I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into > > > > > > hibernation, though. ... > > > What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 16:21 +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 05:16:19PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > > tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: > > >  Stephen Gallagher said: > > > >  I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation,  > > > > though. ...

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread tonynelson
> tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: >>  Stephen Gallagher said: >> > I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into >> hibernation, though. ... >> What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on a desktop/laptop that is >> hibernated? I know what I'd want to happen. > > When I suspend

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread tonynel...@georgeanelson.com
Stephen Gallagher said: >> What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on a desktop/laptop that is >> hibernated? I know what I'd want to happen. > > See the other section of this thread; The VM hypervisor handles this,> not > the client system (by default).I did see it, but I don't understand. I

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread Cole Robinson
On 10/18/2018 11:21 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 05:16:19PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote:  Stephen Gallagher said:  I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation, though. ... What happens when the "server" is

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 05:16:19PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: > >  Stephen Gallagher said: > > > I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation,  > > >though. ... > > What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on a desktop/laptop that is

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread Björn Persson
tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: >  Stephen Gallagher said: > > I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation,  > >though. ... > What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on a desktop/laptop that is > hibernated? I know what I'd want to happen. When I suspend my Fedora

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 9:35 AM tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: > > Stephen Gallagher said: > > > I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation, > > though. ... > > What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on a desktop/laptop that is > hibernated? I know what I'd

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread tonynel...@georgeanelson.com
 Stephen Gallagher said: > I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation, though. >... What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on a desktop/laptop that is hibernated? I know what I'd want to happen.

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 01:41:21PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > There might be some use for it for VMs > > Doesn't the hypervisor do that itself for VMs? > You have a choice, but most people do use hypervisor save/restore. It > is rare to see guest S3/S5 save/restore used in VMs.

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread Dusty Mabe
On 10/18/2018 07:58 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:27 PM Dusty Mabe wrote: >> >> >> For BZ1206936 [1] we started adding resume= kernel command line by >> default [2] in fedora installs. This is causing issues for ostree >> based systems, which I haven't fully

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 08:32:56AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 8:29 AM Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 07:58:33AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation, > > > though. Does

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 8:29 AM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 07:58:33AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation, > > though. Does this just direct the kernel where that should go if > > hibernation is requested,

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 07:58:33AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation, > though. Does this just direct the kernel where that should go if > hibernation is requested, or does it reserve space or something for > it? There might be

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread Tom Hughes
On 18/10/2018 12:58, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:27 PM Dusty Mabe wrote: For BZ1206936 [1] we started adding resume= kernel command line by default [2] in fedora installs. This is causing issues for ostree based systems, which I haven't fully investigated yet, but

Re: resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:27 PM Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > For BZ1206936 [1] we started adding resume= kernel command line by > default [2] in fedora installs. This is causing issues for ostree > based systems, which I haven't fully investigated yet, but figured > I would ask the question: > > Is

resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

2018-10-17 Thread Dusty Mabe
For BZ1206936 [1] we started adding resume= kernel command line by default [2] in fedora installs. This is causing issues for ostree based systems, which I haven't fully investigated yet, but figured I would ask the question: Is resume=/path/to/swap something we really want on server installs