On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 01:38:00PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> Anyway, I've always read the boot time thing as just a bit of fun had by
> those who probably notice it the most. I've yet to be convinced it
> really matters to everyone else any more,
libguestfs cares (and you'll care if you're waiti
Certainly will after there is a new version pushed out. Currently I'm
blocked by three other "fixed upstream" bugs that have been closed with no
update to f14 repos.
Maybe the new revision will solve the bootime issue too.
I am very curious if anyone can demonstrate that systemd is actually fast
dr johnson (d...@www.uk.linux.org) said:
> That would be all grand and spiffy if it were actually faster bootup.
>
> Bootchart here reports that systemd is 8 seconds *SLOWER* than upstart. No
> idea why, but systemd just hangs for 8 seconds doing "nothing" that I can
> see. No logs anywhere tha
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 18:37 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 09:31:30AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
>
> > [...@constitution ~]$ uptime
> > 09:28:22 up 24 days, 16:32, 9 users, load average: 1.17, 0.50, 0.37
>
> So you're running an insecure kernel? Our security churn is ba
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 17:06 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> I reboot virtual machines all the time, certainly 100 times a day
> would not be unusual on a work day.
>
> Not an argument for or against systemd BTW, just an observation that
> how you use your computer is not how others use their c
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 09:31:30AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> [...@constitution ~]$ uptime
> 09:28:22 up 24 days, 16:32, 9 users, load average: 1.17, 0.50, 0.37
So you're running an insecure kernel? Our security churn is bad enough
right now that rebooting is something people do fairly regul
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:20:52PM +0200, Christof Damian wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 23:06, Mike McGrath wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Till Maas wrote:
> >> If they like a faster bootup, then yes, they will. And I as a
> >> workstation user like it.
> >>
> >
> > [citation needed]
> >
> > I
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 12:20 +0200, Christof Damian wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 23:06, Mike McGrath wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Till Maas wrote:
> >> If they like a faster bootup, then yes, they will. And I as a
> >> workstation user like it.
> >>
> >
> > [citation needed]
> >
> > I asked
On 08/25/2010 06:20 AM, Christof Damian wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 23:06, Mike McGrath wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Till Maas wrote:
>>> If they like a faster bootup, then yes, they will. And I as a
>>> workstation user like it.
>>>
>>
>> [citation needed]
>>
>> I asked for this and was to
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Till Maas wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:46:41PM +0200, Farkas Levente wrote:
>>
>> > for workstation most users already use ubuntu. why? because it's more
>> > user friendly.
>>
>> There is nothing wrong with usi
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 23:06, Mike McGrath wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Till Maas wrote:
>> If they like a faster bootup, then yes, they will. And I as a
>> workstation user like it.
>>
>
> [citation needed]
>
> I asked for this and was told by developers they were reluctant to post
> the data.
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:46:41 +0200, Farkas wrote:
> and we all know what happened with pulseaudio. everybody turn it off and
> remove it from the system in at least 3 fedora release, just because
> some of their apps are not working.
Which is a pain, admittedly, if those users are the developers
That would be all grand and spiffy if it were actually faster bootup.
Bootchart here reports that systemd is 8 seconds *SLOWER* than upstart. No
idea why, but systemd just hangs for 8 seconds doing "nothing" that I can
see. No logs anywhere that are meaningful. Default clean install from
Alpha
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Till Maas wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:46:41PM +0200, Farkas Levente wrote:
>
> > for workstation most users already use ubuntu. why? because it's more
> > user friendly.
>
> There is nothing wrong with using Ubuntu, if it servers their needs.
>
> > do you think worksta
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:46:41PM +0200, Farkas Levente wrote:
> for workstation most users already use ubuntu. why? because it's more
> user friendly.
There is nothing wrong with using Ubuntu, if it servers their needs.
> do you think workstation users will like this kind of changes?
If they
hi,
why i not like the idea of systemd?
it's something that dramatically change the system behavior. period.
this is different from all other/previous unix/linux system.
there're many config scripts, programs and third party packages which
are assume the old setup.
such basic changes need years for
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