Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-25 Thread viragh
The glyph coverage of those fonts is rather incomplete. With the standard Hungarian encodings (either iso8859-2 or utf8) they are near to useless, unfortunately. J. Virágh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Saturday 22 May 2010 10:14:01 Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 20.05.2010 18:42, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 14:25 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > >> I'd expect most of the support to end up in F13 updates, so I'm not > >> sure a feature page really makes sense. > > > > This happ

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-23 Thread ニール・ゴンパ
OggConvert made a release today that adds support for Web-M and fixes Dirac support, so that will allow people with the WebM enabled in GStreamer to convert to it... At least now we have a working free software converter that can be included in Fedora. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-22 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 20.05.2010 18:42, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 14:25 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: >> I'd expect most of the support to end up in F13 updates, so I'm not >> sure a feature page really makes sense. > This happens with a lot of our features anyway, [...] And that imho is quite bad

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 20:21 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > Are there any plans to have Red Hat Legal look at the patent-freeness of > > WebM before we leap to include it? We don't take other people's word for > > it in most cases of potential patent problems, so I don't think it > > follows that

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 13:47 -0400, Andy Gospodarek wrote: >> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:21:01AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> > Peter Robinson wrote: >> > > I don't see when the support lands in F-13 there couldn't be press >> > > statement

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: > > I'm not sure we need to push it all the way into F13, but a special WebM > > repo would be nice so this can be easily tested by any user on F13 > > systems in preparation for full 'support' in F14. > > Are there any plans to have Red Hat Legal look

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 13:47 -0400, Andy Gospodarek wrote: > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:21:01AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Peter Robinson wrote: > > > I don't see when the support lands in F-13 there couldn't be press > > > statements about it, just because it appears after the release doesn't >

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-21 Thread Andy Gospodarek
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:21:01AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Peter Robinson wrote: > > I don't see when the support lands in F-13 there couldn't be press > > statements about it, just because it appears after the release doesn't > > mean its not significant and isn't worth making a statement abo

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-21 Thread Peter Jones
On 05/21/2010 05:21 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Peter Robinson wrote: >> I don't see when the support lands in F-13 there couldn't be press >> statements about it, just because it appears after the release doesn't >> mean its not significant and isn't worth making a statement about. > > In fact this

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-21 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 07:40:00AM -0700, John Poelstra wrote: >Instead of continuing to beat the same same horse you've killed a 100 >times over on this list, have you considered looking for another distro >or community project that is more aligned with your wishes and goals? I second this. jo

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-21 Thread John Poelstra
Kevin Kofler said the following on 05/21/2010 02:21 AM Pacific Time: > Peter Robinson wrote: >> I don't see when the support lands in F-13 there couldn't be press >> statements about it, just because it appears after the release doesn't >> mean its not significant and isn't worth making a statement

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Peter Robinson wrote: > I don't see when the support lands in F-13 there couldn't be press > statements about it, just because it appears after the release doesn't > mean its not significant and isn't worth making a statement about. In fact this is a big failure of our feature process, but wheneve

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-21 Thread Peter Robinson
2010/5/20 Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) : > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Adam Miller > wrote: >> >> +1 >> >> -AdamM (from Android ) >> >> On May 20, 2010 1:50 PM, "Jesse Keating" wrote: >> >> On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 11:28 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> > On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 23:51 +0530, Rahul... >>

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Rahul Sundaram writes: On 05/20/2010 08:38 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: On 05/20/2010 03:19 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Expect a patent fight before the end of this. Excerpt from http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=377 Addendum C: Summary for the lazy ... [a lot left out] With regard t

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Gregory Maxwell
2010/5/20 Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) : > It's too bad that we can't say that Fedora 13 has all these cool things. > Fedora would get some considerable notoriety for being the first to fully > support it. Then again, we cannot fully support it for HTML5 since Firefox > doesn't have it... And Chromium is s

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread ニール・ゴンパ
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Adam Miller wrote: > +1 > > -AdamM (from Android ) > > On May 20, 2010 1:50 PM, "Jesse Keating" wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 11:28 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 23:51 +0530, Rahul... > > And with the amount of coordination needed to m

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Adam Miller
+1 -AdamM (from Android ) On May 20, 2010 1:50 PM, "Jesse Keating" wrote: On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 11:28 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 23:51 +0530, Rahul... And with the amount of coordination needed to make sure all the stuff is in the right place for making youtube work,

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 11:28 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 23:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 05/20/2010 11:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I believe this kind of situation is why marketing has the 'talking > > > points' concept. > > > ... which is derived from th

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 23:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/20/2010 11:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > I believe this kind of situation is why marketing has the 'talking > > points' concept. > ... which is derived from the feature list. Yup. Derived from. The point is that it's *not* the s

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/20/2010 11:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > I believe this kind of situation is why marketing has the 'talking > points' concept. > ... which is derived from the feature list. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 10:03 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Bastien Nocera (bnoc...@redhat.com) said: > > > Any grand plans? Should we put up a feature page? > > > > I'd expect most of the support to end up in F13 updates, so I'm not sure > > a feature page really makes sense. > > Well, it's pr

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 14:25 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > I'd expect most of the support to end up in F13 updates, so I'm not > sure > a feature page really makes sense. This happens with a lot of our features anyway, but it does make a nice talking point and media splash to announce Fedora 14 i

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, 20 May 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/20/2010 08:38 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: >> On 05/20/2010 03:19 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> >>> Expect a patent fight before the end of this. >>> >> Excerpt from http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=377 >> >> Addendum C: Summary for the lazy >

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/20/2010 08:38 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > On 05/20/2010 03:19 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >> Expect a patent fight before the end of this. >> > Excerpt from http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=377 > > Addendum C: Summary for the lazy > ... [a lot left out] > With regard to patents,

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
On 05/20/2010 03:19 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Expect a patent fight before the end of this. Excerpt from http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=377 Addendum C: Summary for the lazy ... [a lot left out] With regard to patents, VP8 copies way too much from H.264 for anyone sane to be comfortable with i

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 10:03 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Bastien Nocera (bnoc...@redhat.com) said: > > > Any grand plans? Should we put up a feature page? > > > > I'd expect most of the support to end up in F13 updates, so I'm not sure > > a feature page really makes sense. > > Well, it's pr

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Bill Nottingham
Bastien Nocera (bnoc...@redhat.com) said: > > Any grand plans? Should we put up a feature page? > > I'd expect most of the support to end up in F13 updates, so I'm not sure > a feature page really makes sense. Well, it's probably useful to list it simply from a PR/marketing standpoint. Does to

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 14:25 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > * Gstreamer plugins - Is it separate? Is anyone looking into that? > > They're currently separate branches of the usual -base, -good, and -bad > GStreamer plugins. They will be merged in the near future, and will > probably land in F

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 18:39 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > http://openvideoalliance.org/2010/05/google-frees-vp8-codec-for-html5-the-webm-project/ > > "All videos that are 720p or larger, uploaded to YouTube after May 19th, > will be be encoded in WebM." > > So you all already heard the

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread drago01
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > http://openvideoalliance.org/2010/05/google-frees-vp8-codec-for-html5-the-webm-project/ > > "All videos that are 720p or larger, uploaded to YouTube after May 19th, > will be be encoded in WebM." > > So you all already heard the news

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 18:39:41 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > So you all already heard the news, Google has released web-m as a > royalty free format under a BSD license style license. They have also > have started using it in YouTube. So if we get things aligned, Fedora > 14 would be ab

web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, http://openvideoalliance.org/2010/05/google-frees-vp8-codec-for-html5-the-webm-project/ "All videos that are 720p or larger, uploaded to YouTube after May 19th, will be be encoded in WebM." So you all already heard the news, Google has released web-m as a royalty free format under a BSD lic