Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Saturday 06 March 2010 19:38:16 Michał Piotrowski wrote: 2010/3/6 Naheem Zaffar naheemzaf...@gmail.com: 2010/3/6 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com Why I can install KDE 4.4 in F11 and I can't install latest gnome? (I'm just asking because I'm curious, not because I use Linux on

Re: Harmless KDE feature upgrades - yeah right

2010-03-08 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Friday 05 March 2010 18:37:06 Matthew Woehlke wrote: Petrus de Calguarium wrote: As I had expected, breaking up the monolithic packages into individual packages is a whole lot of unnecessary work. Better to provide releases as they occur, than to waste time unnecessarily breaking

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Kalev Lember
On 03/08/2010 11:20 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Major KDE update was in time of Fedora 9, so it's not an issue today. And this it the first problem - we should not call major, minor, bugfix release because it doesn't mean the same for every each app out in the wild!!! Yes, it can get

should man-pages-* have Requires: man?

2010-03-08 Thread Ivana Hutarova Varekova
For now in fedora there are 11 packages which contains language mutations of man-pages (man-pages-{cs,da,de,es,fr,it,ja,ko,pl,ru,uk}) and man-pages package. Only 2 of them (man-pages-es, man-pages-it) requires man package. I think man dependences should be consistent in all man-pages*

sos update causing PackageKit to barf

2010-03-08 Thread Richard Hughes
The latest sos update is not signed: [hugh...@hughsie-t61 packages]$ rpm -qp sos-1.9-1.fc12.noarch.rpm warning: sos-1.9-1.fc12.noarch.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 57bbccba: NOKEY This causes PackageKit to barf. How come this update was pushed without a signature and all the other

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 08.03.2010, 12:27 +0200 schrieb Juha Tuomala: Again, you can't cut regressions from features :( To name few, your last push comes with: - kmail that can't anymore 'Add address to book'. - kaddressbook doesn't have 'Merge' feature anymore. - kaddressbook View, Edit, Tools

Re: sos update causing PackageKit to barf

2010-03-08 Thread Richard Hughes
On 8 March 2010 10:59, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: That means you don't have the key installed: This is a fresh F13 pre-alpha spin, updated last a few days ago. $ rpm -Kv sos-1.9-1.fc12.noarch.rpm sos-1.9-1.fc12.noarch.rpm:    Header V3 RSA/SHA256 signature: OK, key ID

Re: selinux-policy-targeted update failure

2010-03-08 Thread Rakesh Pandit
On 7 March 2010 20:18, Neal Becker wrote:  Updating       : selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.32-92.fc12.noarch 64/215 libsepol.scope_copy_callback: audioentropy: Duplicate declaration in module: type/attribute entropyd_var_ru\ n_t (No such file or directory). libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox:

Announcing `gold-rebuild' - link your packages with gold now

2010-03-08 Thread Michal Nowak
Past months I spent investigating `gold' - the new GNU linker and how it now works with stock Fedora packages. Result is `gold-rebuild', Bash script which automates `gold's involvement in Mock buildroot. Tarball can be obtained here: http://mnowak.fedorapeople.org/gold-rebuild/dist/ What it can

Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Thomas Janssen
Hi, what kind of karma threshold is set for the kernel? The page in bodhi says it has a karma of 9, but if you count it, it's 13+ and 10- And the kernel got -5 since it's pushed to stable. Shouldn't that one stay out of stable for now?

howto group push?

2010-03-08 Thread Neal Becker
mercurial and tortoise-hg need (generally) to be pushed in sync. They are maintained by 2 different people. What are suggested ways to make sure pushes are synchronized? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: howto group push?

2010-03-08 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:09:43AM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: mercurial and tortoise-hg need (generally) to be pushed in sync. They are maintained by 2 different people. What are suggested ways to make sure pushes are synchronized? The maintainers should coordinate, and one of them should

Should %{name}-javadoc package require %{name}?

2010-03-08 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All! I just found that many java-related packages have packaging issues, and one of them draws my attention - explicit Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release} in some *-javadoc packages. Since my java experience is rather small, I would like to ask you, dear List, whether %{name}-javadoc

Re: howto group push?

2010-03-08 Thread leigh scott
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 08:20 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: The maintainers should coordinate, and one of them should bundle both packages into a single bodhi update. It's the only way to guarantee they get pushed at the same time. josh They would need commit rights for both packages. --

Re: howto group push?

2010-03-08 Thread Neal Becker
leigh scott wrote: On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 08:20 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: The maintainers should coordinate, and one of them should bundle both packages into a single bodhi update. It's the only way to guarantee they get pushed at the same time. josh They would need commit rights for

Push an update to F-13

2010-03-08 Thread Laurent Rineau
What is the new process to push an update to F-13 between alpha and beta? The packages I have in mind are out of the set of critical packages. -- Laurent Rineau http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LaurentRineau -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Announcing `gold-rebuild' - link your packages with gold now

2010-03-08 Thread Richard Hughes
On 8 March 2010 11:44, Michal Nowak mno...@redhat.com wrote: Past months I spent investigating `gold' - the new GNU linker and how it now works with stock Fedora packages. Using gold, I get: /usr/bin/ld: --no-add-needed: unknown option /usr/bin/ld: use the --help option for usage information

Re: should man-pages-* have Requires: man?

2010-03-08 Thread Alain Portal
Le Lundi 8 Mars 2010 11:25:40, Ivana Hutarova Varekova a écrit : For now in fedora there are 11 packages which contains language mutations of man-pages (man-pages-{cs,da,de,es,fr,it,ja,ko,pl,ru,uk}) and man-pages package. Only 2 of them (man-pages-es, man-pages-it) requires man

Re: howto group push?

2010-03-08 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:28:29AM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: leigh scott wrote: On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 08:20 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: The maintainers should coordinate, and one of them should bundle both packages into a single bodhi update. It's the only way to guarantee they get pushed at

Re: selinux-policy-targeted update failure

2010-03-08 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 03/07/2010 09:48 AM, Neal Becker wrote: Updating : selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.32-92.fc12.noarch 64/215 libsepol.scope_copy_callback: audioentropy: Duplicate declaration in module: type/attribute entropyd_var_ru\ n_t (No such file or directory). libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox:

Re: Announcing `gold-rebuild' - link your packages with gold now

2010-03-08 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Michal Nowak mno...@redhat.com writes: Past months I spent investigating `gold' - the new GNU linker and how it now works with stock Fedora packages. [...] Do your scripts provide some evidence of exciting speedups with gold? - FChE -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Announcing `gold-rebuild' - link your packages with gold now

2010-03-08 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:24:29AM -0500, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: Michal Nowak mno...@redhat.com writes: Past months I spent investigating `gold' - the new GNU linker and how it now works with stock Fedora packages. [...] Do your scripts provide some evidence of exciting speedups with

Re: Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:36:18PM +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote: Hi, what kind of karma threshold is set for the kernel? The page in bodhi says it has a karma of 9, but if you count it, it's 13+ and 10- And the kernel got -5

Re: F-13 Branched report: 20100306 changes

2010-03-08 Thread Quentin Armitage
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 19:32 +, Branched Report wrote: Updated Packages: avrdude-5.10-1.fc12 --- * Fri Feb 19 2010 Bart Vanbrabant bart.vanbrab...@zoeloelip.be - 5.10-1 - New upstream version. Several new devices and programmers supported. Some bugfixes and a new

Re: Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Josh Boyer wrote: 2) Karma after it goes to stable is good for informational purposes, but it will not cause an update to get removed from Stable. We don't back out updates after that are pushed stable except in very rare cases. I'll ask again: Why does bodhi accept karma or comments

Re: Harmless KDE feature upgrades - yeah right

2010-03-08 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
A segfaulty version of KDE filelight seems to have been pushed into F13, F12 and (astonishingly) F11. Just filing a bug about that one ... Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com Fedora now

Re: Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:55:34AM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Josh Boyer wrote: 2) Karma after it goes to stable is good for informational purposes, but it will not cause an update to get removed from Stable. We don't back out updates after that are pushed stable except in very rare

How does one deal with obsoleted updates from updates-testing

2010-03-08 Thread Quentin Armitage
My F-13 system produces the following output from yum list extras: Extra Packages glibc.i686 2.11.90-14 installed glibc-common.i686 2.11.90-14 installed glibc-devel.i686 2.11.90-14 @updates-testing glibc-headers.i686

Re: How does one deal with obsoleted updates from updates-testing

2010-03-08 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Quentin Armitage wrote: The glibc packages (including nscd) were in updates-testing, but have been obsoleted, and so 2.11.90-12 is now the current version again. What is the mechanism for becoming aware that a package that has been installed through updates-testing has

What are the rules for which package we build against in F-13?

2010-03-08 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
So I submitted a rebuild for libguestfs in F-13 (just now). This was built against: plymouth-core-libs 0.8.0-0.20100114.2.fc13 But the version of plymouth that I get when I install plymouth from F-13 updates-testing on a local machine (after 'yum --enablerepo=\* clean all') is:

Re: What are the rules for which package we build against in F-13?

2010-03-08 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 03:29:37PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: So I submitted a rebuild for libguestfs in F-13 (just now). This was built against: plymouth-core-libs 0.8.0-0.20100114.2.fc13 Yes, that's what in dist-f13. You can view this with: koji latest-pkg dist-f13 package or for

Re: What are the rules for which package we build against in F-13?

2010-03-08 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 10:37:43AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: The buildroots are populated from packages in the: dist-f13 dist-f13-override dist-f12-updates tags. If a package isn't in one of those tags, it's not going to be in the buildroot. If you need to build against a newer version

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 10:27 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Sam 6 mars 2010 20:04, Adam Williamson a écrit : The numbers do surprise me, to be honest. As I write this, it's 34-8 - that's over 80% - in favour of 'adventurous' updates. Advanced users (those most likely to want a more

[Bug 570979] UTF8 PO files not being read as UTF8

2010-03-08 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570979 --- Comment #3 from Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 2010-03-08 11:07:52 EST --- Sorry, all, I'm not trying to be difficult, but I

rawhide report: 20100308 changes

2010-03-08 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Mar 8 08:15:10 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- ale-0.9.0.3-2.fc12.i686 requires libMagickCore.so.2 autotrace-0.31.1-23.fc12.i686 requires libMagickCore.so.2 blahtexml-0.6-5.fc12.i686 requires

Re: selinux-policy-targeted update failure

2010-03-08 Thread Neal Becker
On Monday 08 March 2010, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 03/07/2010 09:48 AM, Neal Becker wrote: Updating : selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.32-92.fc12.noarch 64/215 libsepol.scope_copy_callback: audioentropy: Duplicate declaration in module: type/attribute entropyd_var_ru\ n_t (No such

Managing spec files

2010-03-08 Thread Matt Ford
Hi All, I am looking at building a fedora package. I have been over guidelines and taken a look at the build system. What I am not clear on is how I maintain spec files for different distributions i.e., F12, F11, F10, or even EPEL. Do I have to branch and maintain each spec file separately

Re: Managing spec files

2010-03-08 Thread Steve Traylen
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Matt Ford matt.f...@manchester.ac.uk wrote: Hi All, I am looking at building a fedora package.  I have been over guidelines and taken a look at the build system.  What I am not clear on is how I maintain spec files for different distributions i.e., F12, F11,

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Lun 8 mars 2010 17:05, Adam Williamson a écrit : I don't think that's an assertion you have any kind of evidence to support. It's really quite sad that half the people who've responded to the poll have done so by attempting to poke holes in it, as it happens not to line up with what they

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Doug Ledford
On 03/08/2010 11:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 10:27 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Sam 6 mars 2010 20:04, Adam Williamson a écrit : The numbers do surprise me, to be honest. As I write this, it's 34-8 - that's over 80% - in favour of 'adventurous' updates. Advanced

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Will Woods
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 13:15 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:04:31 -0800 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: ...snip... What do people make of this? I'm no expert on polls/polling, but I suspect that many of the people who are more interested in a 'stable/less

Re: Should %{name}-javadoc package require %{name}?

2010-03-08 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Monday 08 March 2010, Peter Lemenkov wrote: Hello All! I just found that many java-related packages have packaging issues, and one of them draws my attention - explicit Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release} in some *-javadoc packages. Since my java experience is rather small, I would

Upcoming Fedora 13 Schedule

2010-03-08 Thread John Poelstra
Start End Name Thu 04-Mar Tue 09-Mar Stage Sync Alpha to Mirrors Tue 09-Mar Tue 09-Mar Alpha Public Availability Tue 09-Mar Tue 23-Mar Alpha Testing Fri 12-Mar Fri 12-Mar Beta Blocker Meeting (F13Beta) #1 Tue 16-Mar Tue 16-Mar Software: Start Rebuild all translated

Re: Should %{name}-javadoc package require %{name}?

2010-03-08 Thread Chen Lei
From package guideline Requiring Base Package Devel packages must require the base package using a fully versioned dependency: Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release}. Usually, subpackages other than -devel should also require the base package using a fully versioned dependency.

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:05:12AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: If you think the poll is wrong - provide some data to disprove it. Counteracting it with yet more assertions built on precisely no evidence is not convincing. The evidence that it's wrong is that it's a self-selected sample set.

libedit: transferring ownership

2010-03-08 Thread Debarshi Ray
I would like to transfer ownership of the libedit package to Kamil Dudka (kdudka). I am a bit wary of PackageDB transferring not letting me select the new owner. Could someone please take care of it or advise what I need to do about this? I do not want to remain as a co-maintainer. Thanks,

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:27:07PM +0200, Juha Tuomala wrote: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Yes, it can get confusing. I think it was Kevin Kofler who suggested to talk about feature releases vs. bugfix releases instead to avoid confusion. Again you can't cut bugfixes

Re: Managing spec files

2010-03-08 Thread BJ Dierkes
On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Steve Traylen wrote: It is true that the separate .spec files are maintained separately. What many people try and do is maintain them as identical, at least at the start. Have a look at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/DistTag#Conditionals of course

Re: Upcoming Bugzilla Changes

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 20:07 +0100, Till Maas wrote: On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 08:14:38AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 13:27 +0100, Till Maas wrote: Especially it needs to be made sure that only bugs created prior to adding F13 to RedHat Bugzilla or the branching of

Re: Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:07:05 -0500, Josh wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:55:34AM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Josh Boyer wrote: 2) Karma after it goes to stable is good for informational purposes, but it will not cause an update to get removed from Stable. We don't back out

[Bug 569298] Branch perl-Hash-WithDefaults for EPEL

2010-03-08 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569298 --- Comment #1 from Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 2010-03-08 13:26:07 EST --- I'm trying to avoid EPEL at the moment, but I

[Bug 569295] Branch perl-Hash-Case for EPEL

2010-03-08 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569295 --- Comment #1 from Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 2010-03-08 13:26:08 EST --- I'm trying to avoid EPEL at the moment, but I

[Bug 569301] Branch perl-Config-IniHash for EPEL

2010-03-08 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569301 --- Comment #1 from Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 2010-03-08 13:26:07 EST --- I'm trying to avoid EPEL at the moment, but I

[Bug 569299] Branch perl-PerlIO-gzip for EPEL

2010-03-08 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569299 --- Comment #1 from Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 2010-03-08 13:26:08 EST --- I'm trying to avoid EPEL at the moment, but I

Re: Should %{name}-javadoc package require %{name}?

2010-03-08 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Monday 08 March 2010, Chen Lei wrote: Requiring Base Package Devel packages must require the base package using a fully versioned dependency: Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release}. Usually, subpackages other than -devel should also require the base package using a fully versioned

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread leigh scott
Last time I looked at the admin logs for Fedoraforum i.e who's voted , there was at least 15 votes from Fedora project members. On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 18:12 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Adam, if you can't realise that the users most likely to haunt a support forum are the people most likely

Re: How does one deal with obsoleted updates from updates-testing

2010-03-08 Thread Quentin Armitage
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 10:26 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Quentin Armitage wrote: The glibc packages (including nscd) were in updates-testing, but have been obsoleted, and so 2.11.90-12 is now the current version again. What is the mechanism for becoming aware that a

Re: Managing spec files

2010-03-08 Thread Neal Becker
BJ Dierkes wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Steve Traylen wrote: It is true that the separate .spec files are maintained separately. What many people try and do is maintain them as identical, at least at the start. Have a look at:

Re: Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Michael Schwendt wrote: Nah. The same way you could consider all bodhi comments spam. If you are the first commenter of a popular package, you receive lots of notifications for all subsequent comments (where sometimes people even use bodhi to argue about something). Michael, how is posting:

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 20:47 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Then make it 3 months, 4 months... Leave it in testing forever if you get too many complaints. But make it available for those who want it. This is not the purpose of updates-testing, it is not an alternative update repo. It is there for

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 22:17 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: And as you obviously didn't finish reading my sentence, that is not the only solution I proposed. Read again, there is a 0 additional repo proposal too. Having multiple package versions in a single repository is essentially like having

F-13 Branched report: 20100308 changes

2010-03-08 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Mon Mar 8 09:15:17 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- blahtexml-0.6-5.fc12.i686 requires libxerces-c.so.28 doodle-0.6.7-5.fc12.i686 requires libextractor.so.1 easystroke-0.5.2-1.fc13.i686 requires

Re: selinux-policy-targeted update failure

2010-03-08 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 03/08/2010 06:28 AM, Rakesh Pandit wrote: On 7 March 2010 20:18, Neal Becker wrote: Updating : selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.32-92.fc12.noarch 64/215 libsepol.scope_copy_callback: audioentropy: Duplicate declaration in module: type/attribute entropyd_var_ru\ n_t (No such file

[389-devel] Please review: Bug 571514 - upgrade to 1.2.6 should upgrade 05rfc4523.ldif (cert schema)

2010-03-08 Thread Rich Megginson
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=571514 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=398603action=diff https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=398603action=edit -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

How to install software without root password (PolicyKit?)

2010-03-08 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi, Fedora 12 was planned to have installation of packages without users needing to enter root password. How do I enable this feature via PolicyKit? I read this article: http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/polkit-and-package-kit-and-changing-settings/ but even after doing that it is still

Re: should man-pages-* have Requires: man?

2010-03-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/08/2010 11:25 AM, Ivana Hutarova Varekova wrote: For now in fedora there are 11 packages which contains language mutations of man-pages (man-pages-{cs,da,de,es,fr,it,ja,ko,pl,ru,uk}) and man-pages package. Only 2 of them (man-pages-es, man-pages-it) requires man package. I

Re: How does one deal with obsoleted updates from updates-testing

2010-03-08 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 18:54 +, Quentin Armitage wrote: On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 10:26 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Quentin Armitage wrote: The glibc packages (including nscd) were in updates-testing, but have been obsoleted, and so 2.11.90-12 is now the current

Re: selinux-policy-targeted update failure

2010-03-08 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 03/08/2010 02:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 09:48 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: Updating : selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.32-92.fc12.noarch 64/215 libsepol.scope_copy_callback: audioentropy: Duplicate declaration in module: type/attribute entropyd_var_ru\ n_t (No

Re: How to install software without root password (PolicyKit?)

2010-03-08 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 20:51 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi, Fedora 12 was planned to have installation of packages without users needing to enter root password. How do I enable this feature via PolicyKit? I read this article:

Re: Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:29:23 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: u...@radiopresenter.me.uk (unauthenticated) - 2010-03-08 13:36:44 (karma: 0) Error Type: class 'yum.Errors.RepoError' Error Value: Error getting repository data for installed, repository not foundFile :

Re: Push scripts, mash (was: Re: FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call for feedback))

2010-03-08 Thread Matthew Woehlke
Michael Schwendt wrote: There are just too many -devel packages and their dependencies to be ever relevant to someone for multi-arch installs. Far more users install i686 on 64-bit CPUs, and I have doubts that x86_64 installation users do much development with i686 packages. At most they

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 12:14 -0500, Doug Ledford wrote: On 03/08/2010 11:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 10:27 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Sam 6 mars 2010 20:04, Adam Williamson a écrit : The numbers do surprise me, to be honest. As I write this, it's 34-8 -

[389-devel] Please review: [Bug 199923] subtree search fails to find items under a db containing special characters

2010-03-08 Thread Noriko Hosoi
Subject: subtree search fails to find items under a db containing special characters https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=199923 This bug had been reopened due to the regression. [Proposed Fix] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=398612action=diff

Re: usb_modeswitch by default

2010-03-08 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:27:48 -0800 Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: I have taken over the maintainership from Robert, and the new usb_modeswitch rpms are in rawhide now. And F-13? I'm pushing for F13 and F12 at least :) I usually end up getting the bugs when modems don't

Re: selinux-policy-targeted update failure

2010-03-08 Thread Richard Hughes
On 8 March 2010 19:47, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Is there a sekrit PK mode you can use to get such output, does anyone know? Maybe if I just launch it from a console... No, but I could do such a thing if you file an enhancement bug. Richard. -- devel mailing list

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Jesse Keating
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 11:33 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: I can't find the wiki page documenting buildroot overrides so I can't confirm this. I thought that releng was asking for the overrides to be removed when the package was pushed to stable but I could be wrong.

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 11:04 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: I thought to myself yesterday, 'what this long and fractious thread about update policy *really* needs is some unscientific and controversial numbers'. =) So, I ran a forum poll! Everyone loves those, right? Here it is:

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:24:24PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 11:33 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: I can't find the wiki page documenting buildroot overrides so I can't confirm this. I thought that releng was asking for the overrides to be removed when the package was

Re: F-13 Branched report: 20100306 changes

2010-03-08 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 14:54 +, Quentin Armitage wrote: The report lists 3 fc12 packages as updates for F-13. Doing a yum update of avrdude shows the new version as 5.10-2.fc13 and not 5.10-1.fc12 as listed. For man-pages-it, yum update lists 2.80-5.fc13 and not 2.80-5.fc12 as listed.

Re: selinux-policy-targeted update failure

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 21:18 +, Richard Hughes wrote: On 8 March 2010 19:47, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Is there a sekrit PK mode you can use to get such output, does anyone know? Maybe if I just launch it from a console... No, but I could do such a thing if you file an

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:34:03PM -0500, Will Woods wrote: Adam's poll results are valid *only* for Fedora users who: a) Are members of the Fedora forum, b) Enthusiasts/power-users to the degree that they would notice a new threads/poll within a day of its posting, and c) Hold a strong

F13 Release Slogan - Rock it.

2010-03-08 Thread Robyn Bergeron
For the 13th Release of Fedora, Goddard, the Fedora Marketing team ran an open, community based process of slogan submissions, found at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_slogan_SOP. That process included guidelines for producing great slogans, and as a result of our call, we received a large

Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-08 Thread Matthew Garrett
This is the policy that I expect to be discussed during the Fesco meeting tomorrow. This is entirely orthogonal to the ongoing discussions regarding whether updates in stable releases should be expected to provide features or purely bugfixes, and I don't see any conflict in introducing it

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 16:32 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:24:24PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 11:33 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: I can't find the wiki page documenting buildroot overrides so I can't confirm this. I thought that releng was

Re: F-13 Branched report: 20100308 changes

2010-03-08 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 07:33:37PM +, Branched Report wrote: Compose started at Mon Mar 8 09:15:17 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- 1:libguestfs-1.0.84-2.fc13.i686 requires /lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0.2303.0

Re: Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-08 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:59:29PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: We assume the following axioms: [..] 2) It is impossible to ensure that functionality will not be reduced without sufficient testing. Your axioms are obviously wrong. An update which simply bumped a release number would have

Re: F-13 Branched report: 20100308 changes

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 22:06 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 07:33:37PM +, Branched Report wrote: Compose started at Mon Mar 8 09:15:17 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 --

Re: howto group push?

2010-03-08 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:51:12AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:28:29AM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: leigh scott wrote: On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 08:20 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: The maintainers should coordinate, and one of them should bundle both packages into a

Re: Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 22:09:25 +, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Your axioms are obviously wrong. An update which simply bumped a release number would have the same functionality. Since you claim these are axioms -- self-evident truths that form the basis for further

Re: Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-08 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 10:09:25PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:59:29PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: We assume the following axioms: [..] 2) It is impossible to ensure that functionality will not be reduced without sufficient testing. Your axioms are

Re: Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-08 Thread Björn Persson
Matthew Garrett wrote: Proposal The ability for maintainers to flag an update directly into the updates repository will be disabled. Before being added to updates, the package must receive a net karma of +3 in Bodhi. Would that apply also to new packages being pushed as updates to

Re: Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 10:17:01PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: 2) It is impossible to ensure that functionality will not be reduced without sufficient testing. Your axioms are obviously wrong. An update which simply bumped a release number would have the same functionality. Since

Re: Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 22:09 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:59:29PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: We assume the following axioms: [..] 2) It is impossible to ensure that functionality will not be reduced without sufficient testing. Your axioms are obviously

Re: Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-08 Thread David Malcolm
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 22:09 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:59:29PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: We assume the following axioms: [..] 2) It is impossible to ensure that functionality will not be reduced without sufficient testing. Your axioms are obviously

Re: Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-08 Thread Sven Lankes
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:59:29PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: Before being added to updates, the package must receive a net karma of +3 in Bodhi. [...] It is the expectation of Fesco that the majority of updates should easily be able to garner the necessary karma in a minimal space of

Re: Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-08 Thread Julian Sikorski
W dniu 08.03.2010 22:59, Matthew Garrett pisze: This is the policy that I expect to be discussed during the Fesco meeting tomorrow. This is entirely orthogonal to the ongoing discussions regarding whether updates in stable releases should be expected to provide features or purely bugfixes,

[389-devel] Please review: Bug 570905 - postalAddress syntax should allow empty lines (should allow $$)

2010-03-08 Thread Rich Megginson
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570905 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=398636action=diff https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=398636action=edit -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:59:29 +, Matthew wrote: This is the policy that I expect to be discussed during the Fesco meeting tomorrow. This is entirely orthogonal to the ongoing discussions regarding whether updates in stable releases should be expected to provide features or purely

Re: Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 23:21 +0100, Sven Lankes wrote: It is the expectation of Fesco that the majority of updates should easily be able to garner the necessary karma in a minimal space of time. I don't know what to say. If Fesco is aiming at getting rid of all the pesky packagers

Re: Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-08 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 05:23:34PM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: [...] Hope this is helpful; FWIW I think we need better automated testing around our updates process. OK OK, it was half a joke. I agree that automated testing is the way forward here. Hopefully AutoQA will help here. And we

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