Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com*/ wrote on 05/08/2010 10:51:42 PM +0450: On 08/05/10 19:15, Hedayat Vatnakhah wrote: Please have a look at the last comments of the bug. Most of the implementation is done, the only missing part is how to mount the CD/DVD in PackageKit!

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 11:22 +0430, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote on 05/08/2010 10:51:42 PM +0450: On 08/05/10 19:15, Hedayat Vatnakhah wrote: Please have a look at the last comments of the bug. Most of the implementation is done, the only missing

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On 09/05/10 07:52, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: --snip-- No, the problem is this: PackageKit does not know how to mount a removable media. It doesn't need to. --snip-- Mount DVD as normal. your dvd.repo : baseurl:file://path/to/dvd/(repodata) eg: baseurl=file:/media/Fedora 12 i386 DVD

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
On ۱۰/۰۵/۰۹ 11:41, Frank Murphy wrote: On 09/05/10 07:52, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: --snip-- No, the problem is this: PackageKit does not know how to mount a removable media. It doesn't need to. --snip-- Mount DVD as normal. your dvd.repo : baseurl:file://path/to/dvd/(repodata) eg:

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
On ۱۰/۰۵/۰۹ 11:43, Ankur Sinha wrote: On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 11:22 +0430, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote on 05/08/2010 10:51:42 PM +0450: On 08/05/10 19:15, Hedayat Vatnakhah wrote: Please have a look at the last comments of the bug.

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On 09/05/10 10:28, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: --snip-- eg: baseurl=file:/media/Fedora 12 i386 DVD enabled=1 gpgcheck=true Why fix a bug that doesn't need to be fixed. Above method works for me. Personally I do know how to use DVD as a repository, but that's not suitable for users AT ALL.

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread drago01
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 19:40 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: Matěj Cepl said the following on 05/07/2010 04:41 PM Pacific Time: More and more I was writing this email, more and more I tend to agree with somebody today,

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Camilo Mesias
Personally I think Fedora is good at what it does, and although it causes me some frustration that Fedora isn't better at wooing mass market users, I wouldn't want to make radical changes to structures and processes to chase some goals. There would be much easier and more painless ways to woo

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Björn Persson
Frank Murphy wrote: That *should not* be default for most users, as it will end up breaking quite a lot, if used with other repos. (updates,updates-tesing, 3rd party) If using the DVD together with the updates repository would break quite a lot, then how can we all be using the stable and

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On 09/05/10 12:34, Björn Persson wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: That *should not* be default for most users, as it will end up breaking quite a lot, if used with other repos. (updates,updates-tesing, 3rd party) If using the DVD together with the updates repository would break quite a lot,

rawhide report: 20100509 changes

2010-05-09 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sun May 9 08:15:17 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- almanah-0.7.2-1.fc13.i686 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.11 almanah-0.7.2-1.fc13.i686 requires libedataserverui-1.2.so.8 anjal-0.3.2-2.fc14.i686

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com*/ wrote on 05/09/2010 4:20:15 PM +0450: On 09/05/10 12:34, Björn Persson wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: That *should not* be default for most users, as it will end up breaking quite a lot, if used with other repos. (updates,updates-tesing, 3rd party)

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On 09/05/10 13:34, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: --snip-- Frank Well, sorry but you simply don't get it! Give a Fedora DVD to a new Linux user and tell him to install it on his own system. Then ask him to install Eclipse from DVD since he will most probably NOT opt to customize his package set

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 9.5.2010 12:09, Adam Williamson napsal(a): Making any change is much harder than it should be; we always end up in endless discussions without any outcome while others like Ubuntu seems to have a better decision making process; and seriously I think this is the one which basically blocks

Re: Retire glib and gtk+ 1.2 from rawhide?

2010-05-09 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 9.5.2010 06:53, Chen Lei napsal(a): For them, we can simply: 1. Simply orphan those application from repos which have dead upstream for a long time. Normally, those allipcations have better alternatives using GTK+ 2.x, we don't need worry about this. 2.Update applications to GTK 2.x port

Re: Retire glib and gtk+ 1.2 from rawhide?

2010-05-09 Thread Chen Lei
2010/5/9 Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com On F-12/x86_64: $ repoquery --whatrequires --alldeps gtk+ |grep x86_64|sort bubblemon-0:1.46-10.fc12.x86_64 crossfire-client-0:1.11.0-3.fc12.x86_64 dillo-0:0.8.6-11.fc12.x86_64 gcombust-1:0.1.55-16.x86_64 gcx-0:0.9.11-9.fc12.x86_64

Re: Retire glib and gtk+ 1.2 from rawhide?

2010-05-09 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On 05/09/2010 03:17 PM, Chen Lei wrote: 2010/5/9 Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com mailto:musur...@gmail.com On F-12/x86_64: $ repoquery --whatrequires --alldeps gtk+ |grep x86_64|sort bubblemon-0:1.46-10.fc12.x86_64 crossfire-client-0:1.11.0-3.fc12.x86_64

Re: Retire glib and gtk+ 1.2 from rawhide?

2010-05-09 Thread Chen Lei
2010/5/9 Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com On F-12/x86_64: $ repoquery --whatrequires --alldeps gtk+ |grep x86_64|sort bubblemon-0:1.46-10.fc12.x86_64 crossfire-client-0:1.11.0-3.fc12.x86_64 dillo-0:0.8.6-11.fc12.x86_64 gcombust-1:0.1.55-16.x86_64 gcx-0:0.9.11-9.fc12.x86_64

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 12:16 +0100, Camilo Mesias wrote: Personally I think Fedora is good at what it does, and although it causes me some frustration that Fedora isn't better at wooing mass market users, I wouldn't want to make radical changes to structures and processes to chase some goals.

Re: Retire glib and gtk+ 1.2 from rawhide?

2010-05-09 Thread Chen Lei
2010/5/9 Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: Dne 9.5.2010 06:53, Chen Lei napsal(a): For them, we can simply: 1. Simply orphan those application from repos which have dead upstream for a long time. Normally, those

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Mail Lists
On 05/09/2010 06:09 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: I'm tempted to agree in practice with Matej that it is. I don't think we can kid ourselves that we're doing a particularly good job of making a desktop for end users; if we were, we wouldn't be being trashed by Ubuntu in this area (let alone OS X

Re: GConf error

2010-05-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: I see that we're calling killall -TERM instead of killall -HUP in the patch. That seems non-optimal (since it means we'll keep shutting down the gconfd server instead of letting it use it's 30second timeout) That's

Re: F-13 yum in kvm or vmware guests

2010-05-09 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
06.05.2010 01:40, Warren Togami ?: (10/12): samba-3.5.2-60.fc13.x86_64.rpm (71%) 73% [- ] 0.0 B/s | 3.7 MB 3340883129410265958989882401668816722716705737932:48 ETA Anyone else seeing this kind of behavior with F-13 yum within kvm or vmware

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Frank Murphy wrote: That *should not* be default for most users, as it will end up breaking quite a lot, if used with other repos. (updates,updates-tesing, 3rd party) as %requires may have changed quite a bit since DVD was released. That shouldn't be a problem as long as updates is enabled.

Re: chrony as default NTP client?

2010-05-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jaroslav Reznik wrote: I think it would be better to drop ntp support completely from s-c-d once chrony becomes default in Fedora. We aim to support default Fedora configuration tools. Radek Novacek is now working on date/time DBus interface under FMCI umbrella. Speaking of configuration

Re: chrony as default NTP client?

2010-05-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mail Lists wrote: The prime motivation of this project is a use case of intermittent internet connections of 5 mins a day. I seriously doubt that is the common use case for majority of fedora users. I think intermittent Internet connections are actually extremely common. Think

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 11:09 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: I'm tempted to agree in practice with Matej that it is. I don't think we can kid ourselves that we're doing a particularly good job of making a desktop for end users; if we were, we wouldn't be being trashed by Ubuntu in this area (let

Re: chrony as default NTP client?

2010-05-09 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Miroslav Lichvar mlich...@redhat.com wrote: With the latest improvements in the chrony package related to NetworkManager and name resolving I think it is now good enough to replace ntpd in the default configuration and the configurations supported by

Re: chrony as default NTP client?

2010-05-09 Thread Mail Lists
On 05/09/2010 01:45 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: lets go over a couple of things to help lower the grumpiness of others. A good summary which shows care and thoughtfulness - please add also the question: 4) For servers (distinct from the desktop use case) - which would be the better

Re: GConf error

2010-05-09 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 11:56:27AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: I see that we're calling killall -TERM instead of killall -HUP in the patch. That seems non-optimal (since it means we'll keep shutting down the gconfd

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at*/ wrote on 05/09/2010 9:24:04 PM +0450: Frank Murphy wrote: That *should not* be default for most users, as it will end up breaking quite a lot, if used with other repos. (updates,updates-tesing, 3rd party) as %requires may have changed quite a bit

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Alexander Boström
sön 2010-05-09 klockan 11:22 +0430 skrev Hedayat Vatankhah: No, the problem is this: PackageKit does not know how to mount a removable media. Why do you even need to mount it? Removable media is of course automatically mounted when you insert it (if someone is logged in on the console).

Re: GConf error

2010-05-09 Thread Pierre-Yves
On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 14:04 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: I'm a bit unclear on the original problem report, actually. In addition to what you've said, the report also says that the user had to logout and log back in before it worked. That seems like a different symptom. 30 seconds is not

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Alexander Boström
sön 2010-05-09 klockan 18:54 +0200 skrev Kevin Kofler: Many of them have updates anyway. Use delta-RPMs (combining not the installed old version but the old version on the DVD with the downloaded drpm). /Alexander -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F-13 yum in kvm or vmware guests

2010-05-09 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org*/ wrote on 05/06/2010 11:47:39 PM +0450: On Thu, 6 May 2010, Hedayat Vatnakhah wrote: Hi, Warren Togami war...@togami.com wrote on ‫پنجشنبه ۰۶ مه ۱۰، ۰۲:۱۰:۴۸‬:On ۱۰/۰۵/۰۶ 02:10, Warren Togami wrote: (10/12): samba-3.5.2-60.fc13.x86_64.rpm

Re: Retire glib and gtk+ 1.2 from rawhide?

2010-05-09 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Chen Lei wrote: swami-0:0.9.4-6.fc12.x86_64 This is the *only* soundfont editor there is in Linux, which is enough reason to keep gtk+. Upstream did not do any updates recently, but that doesn't mean that the software is not functional. Orcan -- devel mailing

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
On ۱۰/۰۵/۰۹ 10:43, Alexander � wrote: sön 2010-05-09 klockan 11:22 +0430 skrev Hedayat Vatankhah: No, the problem is this: PackageKit does not know how to mount a removable media. Why do you even need to mount it? Removable media is of course automatically mounted when you

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 20:13 +0200, Alexander Boström wrote: sön 2010-05-09 klockan 11:22 +0430 skrev Hedayat Vatankhah: No, the problem is this: PackageKit does not know how to mount a removable media. Why do you even need to mount it? Removable media is of course automatically mounted

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 20:34:57 +0300, Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com wrote: Thus far, it seemed that the both the user and the developer communities were left out of these proceedings, and everything was more-or-less decided by FESCO, which left (large?) parts of the developer community

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 11:09:12 +0100, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: I'm tempted to agree in practice with Matej that it is. I don't think we can kid ourselves that we're doing a particularly good job of making a desktop for end users; if we were, we wouldn't be being trashed

Re: GCC precompiled headers question

2010-05-09 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
Hi, On ۱۰/۰۵/۰۶ 03:34, Christoph � wrote: Hi all, this is an off topic question, but since I know that some of you are familiar with gcc, I am asking it here before signing up somewhere else. I have to source-compile one language (Modelica) to C++. Since Modelica has a structural subtype

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread drago01
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 20:34:57 +0300,  Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com wrote: Thus far, it seemed that the both the user and the developer communities were left out of these proceedings, and everything was more-or-less

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/10/2010 12:37 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 20:34:57 +0300, Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com wrote: Thus far, it seemed that the both the user and the developer communities were left out of these proceedings, and everything was more-or-less decided by FESCO,

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com wrote: If we, as a -community- project, want to remain relevant, it is time to decide who we are and what is our goal. Agreed. The who we are is easy answered, we're RHs *playground*. That is what everyone, not completely new to

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Sun, 9 May 2010, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 14:07 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 20:34:57 +0300, Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com wrote: Thus far, it seemed that the both the user and the developer communities were left out of these

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
[Well, sorry for posting again to this subthread, but this particular post has nothing whatsoever to do with hall monitoring. (Time for another new subthread?)] Thomas Janssen wrote: And we're gladly acting like it, e.g. x-server not compatible with HW vendor drivers at release time (believe

Request Followup

2010-05-09 Thread Mark Rader
Hello Earlier I posted a request to see if anyone was willing to review a proposed new RPM. I forgot to mention that I would be willing to exchange the review with someone needing help geting their project reviewed. Mark Rader -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: GCC precompiled headers question

2010-05-09 Thread Christoph Höger
Am Sonntag, den 09.05.2010, 04:25 +0200 schrieb Kevin Kofler: Christoph Höger wrote: Unfortunately g++ also allows one single precompiled header per compilation unit. Does anyone know why? Because a g++ precompiled header is more or less a dump of the complete compiler state, which is

Re: Retire glib and gtk+ 1.2 from rawhide?

2010-05-09 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 10:17:39PM +0800, Chen Lei wrote: Most of those applications are replaced, e.g. xmms2 for xmms, putty(svn) for putty 0.60, since it's already done by some other distributions, I think it's quite safe to retire gtk 1.2 completely from fedora. That's not a good

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 22:11 +0200, Thomas Janssen wrote: On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com wrote: If we, as a -community- project, want to remain relevant, it is time to decide who we are and what is our goal. Agreed. The who we are is easy answered, we're RHs

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/10/2010 02:10 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: We do not and should never support proprietary drivers. Please NEVER withhold a new version of X.Org X11 just because proprietary drivers don't support it! It might not be obvious but doing so is very counter productive even for those users

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread drago01
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/10/2010 02:10 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: We do not and should never support proprietary drivers. Please NEVER withhold a new version of X.Org X11 just because proprietary drivers don't support it! It might not be

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 10 May 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/10/2010 02:10 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: We do not and should never support proprietary drivers. Please NEVER withhold a new version of X.Org X11 just because proprietary drivers don't support it! It might not be obvious but doing so is very

Re: GCC precompiled headers question

2010-05-09 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 04:25 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Christoph Höger wrote: Unfortunately g++ also allows one single precompiled header per compilation unit. Does anyone know why? Because a g++ precompiled header is more or less a dump of the complete compiler state, which is loaded

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 10:16:45PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: I don't agree with that, entirely. Think about it - Red Hat sells big enterprise stuff. Mostly servers. Directly, PA and bleeding edge X stuff isn't of huge immediate interest to RH. I mean, of course RH is going to pay people

Re: Retire glib and gtk+ 1.2 from rawhide?

2010-05-09 Thread Jeff Garzik
On 05/09/2010 10:03 AM, Andrea Musuruane wrote: On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Matěj Ceplmc...@redhat.com wrote: Dne 9.5.2010 06:53, Chen Lei napsal(a): For them, we can simply: 1. Simply orphan those application from repos which have dead upstream for a long time. Normally, those

Re: Retire glib and gtk+ 1.2 from rawhide?

2010-05-09 Thread ニール・ゴンパ
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Jeff Garzik jgar...@pobox.com wrote: On 05/09/2010 10:03 AM, Andrea Musuruane wrote: On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Matěj Ceplmc...@redhat.com wrote: Dne 9.5.2010 06:53, Chen Lei napsal(a): For them, we can simply: 1. Simply orphan those application from

Re: chrony as default NTP client?

2010-05-09 Thread Ryan Rix
On Sun 9 May 2010 10:26:35 am Kevin Kofler wrote: Mail Lists wrote: The prime motivation of this project is a use case of intermittent internet connections of 5 mins a day. I seriously doubt that is the common use case for majority of fedora users. I think intermittent

EC1261 - Huawai modem

2010-05-09 Thread arvind iyer
USB-MODEM from Huawei (Model: Huawei EC1261 ) does not work with fedora-12 (kernel 2.6.32.11-.fc12.i686.PAE) However an older version (Model: Huawei EC1260) works on the same kernel. The following are the output of /var/log/messages when the respective devices are connected DOES NOT WORK

EC1261 - Huawai modem

2010-05-09 Thread arvind iyer
USB-MODEM from Huawei (Model: Huawei EC1261 ) does not work with fedora-12 (kernel 2.6.32.11-.fc12.i686.PAE) However an older version (Model: Huawei EC1260) works on the same kernel. The following are the output of /var/log/messages when the respective devices are connected DOES NOT WORK

Re: Retire glib and gtk+ 1.2 from rawhide?

2010-05-09 Thread Chen Lei
2010/5/10 Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Chen Lei wrote: swami-0:0.9.4-6.fc12.x86_64 This is the *only* soundfont editor there is in Linux, which is enough reason to keep gtk+. Upstream did not do any updates recently, but that doesn't mean that the

Re: Retire glib and gtk+ 1.2 from rawhide?

2010-05-09 Thread Chen Lei
2010/5/10 Patrice Dumas pertu...@free.fr For the applications I know some comments * I am quite sure that gmanedit is not a manedit evolution. However, manedit is orphaned right now (though still not purged). * xdialog is build twice, once agains gtk+ and then against Gtk2. I think it

Re: Retire glib and gtk+ 1.2 from rawhide?

2010-05-09 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Chen Lei wrote: 2010/5/10 Orcan Ogetbil On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Chen Lei wrote: swami-0:0.9.4-6.fc12.x86_64 This is the *only* soundfont editor there is in Linux, which is enough reason to keep gtk+. Upstream did not do any updates recently,

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 15:27 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: If you think we should vote, go join debian. I think they do that there. First, I never said we should 'vote'. I talked about community involvement. Second, if you are looking at the sure path to drive people away, sending them to go join

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 05/09/2010 10:27 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: Bottom line is we should have done what we're doing now long ago, so we're suffering the consequences as a result. Lots of people with conflicting views are now here. Our lack of focus has just hurt us. Have you used OSX lately? Have you ever

planet.fedoraproject.org blog addition weirdness

2010-05-09 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello! Not sure that people are still unaware of that issue, but, anyway, here is my problem: I added RSS-filter to my blog, to properly sort out off-topic or unappropriate content from my diary and make it suitable for inclusion into Fedoraplanet, and listed address of new filtered RSS at my

Re: Retire glib and gtk+ 1.2 from rawhide?

2010-05-09 Thread Chen Lei
2010/5/10 Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Chen Lei wrote: 2010/5/10 Orcan Ogetbil On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Chen Lei wrote: swami-0:0.9.4-6.fc12.x86_64 This is the *only* soundfont editor there is in Linux, which is enough reason

rpms/perl-Test-MinimumVersion/devel perl-Test-MinimumVersion.spec, 1.15, 1.16

2010-05-09 Thread corsepiu
Author: corsepiu Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Test-MinimumVersion/devel In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv4623 Modified Files: perl-Test-MinimumVersion.spec Log Message: * Sun May 09 2010 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 0.101080-2 - Rebuild with

File Crypt-Twofish-2.14.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2010-05-09 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Crypt-Twofish: 295c059d18f9a46dd14bd765fc465318 Crypt-Twofish-2.14.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

rpms/perl-Crypt-Twofish/devel .cvsignore, 1.2, 1.3 perl-Crypt-Twofish.spec, 1.4, 1.5 sources, 1.2, 1.3

2010-05-09 Thread Iain Arnell
Author: iarnell Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Crypt-Twofish/devel In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv8163 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-Crypt-Twofish.spec sources Log Message: * Sun May 09 2010 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 2.14-1 - update to latest upstream - use

File Perl-PrereqScanner-0.101250.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2010-05-09 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Perl-PrereqScanner: bce062a90784be14e743997dd421f33e Perl-PrereqScanner-0.101250.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

rpms/perl-Perl-PrereqScanner/devel .cvsignore, 1.3, 1.4 perl-Perl-PrereqScanner.spec, 1.3, 1.4 sources, 1.3, 1.4

2010-05-09 Thread Iain Arnell
Author: iarnell Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Perl-PrereqScanner/devel In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv8830 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-Perl-PrereqScanner.spec sources Log Message: * Sun May 09 2010 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.101250-1 - update to latest

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2010-05-09 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-CPAN-Uploader: e9162ce00b77a8c870d960b2713b2b83 CPAN-Uploader-0.101260.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

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2010-05-09 Thread Iain Arnell
Author: iarnell Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-CPAN-Uploader/devel In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv9173 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-CPAN-Uploader.spec sources Log Message: * Sun May 09 2010 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.101260-1 - update to latest upstream

rpms/perl-CPAN-Uploader/F-12 .cvsignore, 1.2, 1.3 perl-CPAN-Uploader.spec, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.2, 1.3

2010-05-09 Thread Iain Arnell
Author: iarnell Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-CPAN-Uploader/F-12 In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv9410/F-12 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-CPAN-Uploader.spec sources Log Message: * Sun May 09 2010 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.101260-1 - update to latest

rpms/perl-CPAN-Uploader/F-13 .cvsignore, 1.2, 1.3 perl-CPAN-Uploader.spec, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.2, 1.3

2010-05-09 Thread Iain Arnell
Author: iarnell Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-CPAN-Uploader/F-13 In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv9410/F-13 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-CPAN-Uploader.spec sources Log Message: * Sun May 09 2010 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.101260-1 - update to latest

[Bug 590385] New: perl-Module-Signature-0.64 is available

2010-05-09 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-Module-Signature-0.64 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=590385 Summary: perl-Module-Signature-0.64 is available Product:

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2010-05-09 Thread Ville Skyttä
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Module-Signature: e9a2676cbfefc612178940166f411fac Module-Signature-0.64.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

rpms/perl-Module-Signature/devel .cvsignore, 1.12, 1.13 perl-Module-Signature.spec, 1.18, 1.19 sources, 1.12, 1.13

2010-05-09 Thread Ville Skyttä
Author: scop Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Module-Signature/devel In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv16222 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-Module-Signature.spec sources Log Message: * Sun May 9 2010 Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi - 0.64-1 - Update to 0.64

[Bug 590385] perl-Module-Signature-0.64 is available

2010-05-09 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=590385 Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi changed: What|Removed |Added