Re: 15 or rawhide?

2010-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 15:28 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 12:26 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
 
  The question I have for the abrt folks, is there any code that would
  lead to a bug being filed for rawhide?  If so, how is that code triggered?
 
 I believe they claimed it was through parsing for Rawhide in the
 release string value. I think that's a little flimsy in general though.
 Shouldn't we have some other way to indicate this is rawhide?

Mandriva introduced a /etc/product.id file to their mandriva-release
package, which identifies a release in a kind of more detailed and
possibly more reliably parseable way. I'm not sure if that's not just
something else that can go wrong, though. It looks like this:

vendor=Mandriva,distribution=Mandriva
Linux,type=Basic,version=2010.1,branch=Official,release=1,arch=i586,product=Free

and is documented at http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/product_id

I'm not sure parsing /etc/redhat-release or whatever is really *wrong*,
though. I mean, that's the thing that exists to define what release
you're on. If the release is Rawhide and it doesn't say Rawhide, then
I'd say that's pretty much always going to be a bug, so I'm not entirely
sure why it'd be a problem to identify Rawhide by
parsing /etc/foo-release for Rawhide.
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Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-18 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 17 septembre 2010 à 17:26 -0400, Colin Walters a écrit :
 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 17 September 2010 15:28, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
  Not if it's provided in the RPM header in a way where it can be easily
  stuffed into the metadata or a similar place.
 
  Bear in mind: 'n' applications per package, where 'n' can be a large
  number. This means you have to come up with an interesting way to
  encode binary data in a application prefixed rpm-provide. Icky.
 
 We should simply add a rule of at most one app per package.  Yes, this
 means you, gnome-games.

This is essentially what was done in fonts packaging guidelines four
releases ago. And why the packages that do respect those guidelines
could be presented in a font store today (except users expect image
previews, and this part is still missing).

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Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-18 Thread drago01
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:01 PM, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 10:57 +0200, drago01 wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 13 September 2010 21:49, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
  So Seth spent half a day implementing a proof of concept:
  http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/fedora-app-market-proof-of-concept/
 
  Translations?
  Icons?
  Offline queries?
  Co-operating with other distros?

 Lets say we ever want to implement this
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=612628 (or any similar
 feature in another upstream project)
 without a cross distro way to get the application data (icons, names,
 etc. ) it would be a maintenance nightmare.

  Err ... PackageKit is currently the cross distro. way to work with
 distro. package managers, nothing outside of that layer should ever know
 (or care) where the data is coming from and how it gets updated etc.
  For package data now, PackageKit looks in primary-*.sqlite.bz2 in
 Fedora and Packages.bz2 in debian. gnome-shell/whatever doesn't know or
 care. This should be no different.

My main point was to address the why care about other distros just do
it as a fedora only solution.
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rawhide report: 20100918 changes

2010-09-18 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Sep 18 08:15:28 UTC 2010

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2010-09-18 Thread Branched Report
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Re: FYI: rawhide now requires systemd to boot by default

2010-09-18 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 23:56:54 +0200,
  Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 What are the current plans for SystemD in F14? Systemd is still listed
 as F14 feature. Will it be developed in F14 or in external repo as
 Rahul Sundaram suggested?

From what I have seen discussed, probably neither. Development will probably
proceed in F15 and the primary developers probably won't want to spend
extra time backporting stuff to F14. Someone could still volunteer to do
that, but I don't expect that to happen.

If you really want to help test it, staying on rawhide is probably the
place to do that.
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Re: FYI: rawhide now requires systemd to boot by default

2010-09-18 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 18 września 2010 19:10 użytkownik Bruno Wolff III
br...@wolff.to napisał:
 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 23:56:54 +0200,
  Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 What are the current plans for SystemD in F14? Systemd is still listed
 as F14 feature. Will it be developed in F14 or in external repo as
 Rahul Sundaram suggested?

 From what I have seen discussed, probably neither. Development will probably
 proceed in F15 and the primary developers probably won't want to spend
 extra time backporting stuff to F14. Someone could still volunteer to do
 that, but I don't expect that to happen.

 If you really want to help test it, staying on rawhide is probably the
 place to do that.


I'm currently performing an update to rawhide on my laptop. I hope
that the system will be still useful for other things than systemd
testing :)

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Re: FYI: rawhide now requires systemd to boot by default

2010-09-18 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/17/2010 02:18 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
 While upstart is still in the repo, the initscripts package now pulls
 in systemd and systemd-sysvinit.

 Bill

from todays 201009218 rawhide update (bz'd on the yum site as #593):

sudo yum --enablerepo=mash --skip-broken update

.

Updating for dependencies:

upstart x86_64 0.6.5-8.fc15 mash 149 k

Skipped (dependency problems):

initscripts x86_64 9.21-2.fc15 mash 951 k
systemd-sysvinit x86_64 10-3.fc15 mash 12 k
upstart-sysvinit x86_64 0.6.5-8.fc15 mash 15 k

Transaction Summary 

 
Upgrade 1 Package(s)

Total size: 149 k Installed size: 498 k Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages: Running rpm_check_debug
ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: upstart = 0.6.5-8.fc14 is needed 
by (installed) upstart-sysvinit-0.6.5-8.fc14.x86_64
Please report this error in http://yum.baseurl.org/report

You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Beta RC2 Available Now!

2010-09-18 Thread Andre Robatino
Fedora 14 Beta RC2 is now available [1].  Please refer to the following
pages for download links and testing instructions.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for installation [2] and
desktop [3] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release Criteria [4].
 Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [5], or on the test
list [6].

[1] http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-14/f-14-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Beta_Release_Criteria
[5] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[6] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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[Bug 635234] New: perl-Class-XSAccessor-1.08 is available

2010-09-18 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: perl-Class-XSAccessor-1.08 is available

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635234

   Summary: perl-Class-XSAccessor-1.08 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: ASSIGNED
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: perl-Class-XSAccessor
AssignedTo: mmasl...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: fedora-perl-devel-l...@redhat.com,
mmasl...@redhat.com, psab...@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora


Latest upstream release: 1.08
Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 1.07
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Class-XSAccessor/

Please consult the package update guidelines before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_update_guidelines

More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_Release_Monitoring

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[Bug 635235] New: perl-DBD-CSV-0.31 is available

2010-09-18 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: perl-DBD-CSV-0.31 is available

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635235

   Summary: perl-DBD-CSV-0.31 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: ASSIGNED
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: perl-DBD-CSV
AssignedTo: mmasl...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: fedora-perl-devel-l...@redhat.com, mmasl...@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora


Latest upstream release: 0.31
Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 0.30
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/DBD-CSV/

Please consult the package update guidelines before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_update_guidelines

More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_Release_Monitoring

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