On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
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As you might be aware, there was a period of roughly two weeks where a
gcc build (gcc-4.5.1-3.fc14) in the buildroots for both Fedora 14 and
Fedora 15. Items built with
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 15:27 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
PPS I did not modify my bump script yet to attempt a commit to master
and merge to the f14 branch. In the interest of time, I took the easy
route and just did commits to the f14 branch. Maintainers can do a
merge and fixup after the
hi,
while try to make a scratch build i always got:
-
# fedpkg scratch-build
Could not log into koji: Opening a SSL connection failed
-
even if i try to remove .fedora.cert and fedora-packager-setup (so it's
not a
On 10/06/2010 11:55 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
Is there a reason why this is not included in the repositories? If not
I'd be happy to submit it and take it on.
regards,
Brendan
Is it this software you are talking about ? http://jackbeat.samalyse.org/
If yes, from a quick glance, it
On 10/06/2010 08:06 PM, Xavier Bachelot wrote:
If yes, from a quick glance, it seems jackbeat uses an allowed licence
(GPL) and doesn't require any supporting libs that are not ditributable
by Fedora, so I think the only reason it's not in the repo is nobody
packaged it yet. Feel free to do
On 10/5/10, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-10-05)
===
Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
Florent Le Coz, Mon, 04 Oct 2010 15:20:04 +0200:
Trademark cannot be ever free as in freedom.
That's why Fedora should not ship Firefox, but Iceweasel, or Icecat, or
Minefield, or anything else that is not trademarked and isn't impossible
to patch without mozilla's consent.
I won't comment
On 10/05/2010 11:20 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-10-05)
===
...
19:59:38nirik some examples: dracut was updated in f12/13 with a bunch of
patches. Were those all bugfixes?
19:59:59pjones if it's
Ralf Corsepius, Tue, 05 Oct 2010 06:01:09 +0200:
Close source school of thinking - Trademarks exist to protect an
enterprise's product and to close out copyiers. FLOSS exists to enable
people to share.
Nonsense, trademarks exists to protect users and to avoid living off
somebody else brand
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 02:46:28PM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
But I cannot list all the RHEL6 bugs.
Why not? Strip partner names if necessary, but please make it possible
for people to decide whether a given update is a benefit to them.
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Compose started at Wed Oct 6 08:15:24 UTC 2010
Broken deps for x86_64
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On 10/06/2010 02:49 PM, Matej Cepl wrote:
Ralf Corsepius, Tue, 05 Oct 2010 06:01:09 +0200:
Close source school of thinking - Trademarks exist to protect an
enterprise's product and to close out copyiers. FLOSS exists to enable
people to share.
Nonsense, trademarks exists to protect users and
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 08:29:32 -0400,
Brandon Lozza bran...@pwnage.ca wrote:
Interesting, from the meeting we can tell
1) A number of people want to give Mozilla an exception.
2) BRANDING is an issue, like I said in another thread. Which is why
people are against removing it.
People
Michał Piotrowski wrote:
W dniu 6 października 2010 05:01 użytkownik Eric Sandeen
sand...@redhat.com napisał:
...
cool! I suppose I could turn it on in rawhide, or you could just
build your own e2fsprogs to get it ...
I already built my own version.
Ok, let me know if you can break
On 10/6/10, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote:
I won't comment on the trademark issue (because that's just pure lunacy),
but let me comment here they don't accept my patches, so they are non-
free. That's just nonsense ...
Yes it is, that's not the issue. They aren't letting us distribute it
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:26:59 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 10/06/2010 02:49 PM, Matej Cepl wrote:
Nonsense, trademarks exists to protect users and to avoid living off
somebody else brand recognition.
I disagree - trademarks exist to protect the manufacturer from
loosing profits because
Hi,
A couple of days back I uploaded preview 8 of mono-2.8 for comments but
have heard nothing back. The move to 2.8 will require a good number of
rebuilds as 2.8 has had all the .NET 1.1 stuff removed.
If you have a mono reliant package, can you please rebuild and let me
know if there are any
* Brandon Lozza [06/10/2010 16:28] :
Yes it is, that's not the issue. They aren't letting us distribute it
ourselves, unless its brand is removed or we don't make those changes.
It's their brand, they get to decide what they do (or let you do) with it.
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On 10/06/2010 10:08 AM, Brandon Lozza wrote:
On 10/6/10, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote:
I won't comment on the trademark issue (because that's just pure lunacy),
but let me comment here they don't accept my patches, so they are non-
free. That's just nonsense ...
Yes it is, that's not
On 10/06/2010 04:08 PM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:26:59 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 10/06/2010 02:49 PM, Matej Cepl wrote:
Nonsense, trademarks exists to protect users and to avoid living off
somebody else brand recognition.
I disagree - trademarks exist to protect the
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 16:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 10/06/2010 04:08 PM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:26:59 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 10/06/2010 02:49 PM, Matej Cepl wrote:
Nonsense, trademarks exists to protect users and to avoid living off
somebody else
On 10/06/2010 10:41 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 10/06/2010 04:08 PM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:26:59 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 10/06/2010 02:49 PM, Matej Cepl wrote:
Nonsense, trademarks exists to protect users and to avoid living off
somebody else brand recognition.
Once upon a time, Eric Sandeen sand...@redhat.com said:
Some things to test would be attempting to defrag files
which are being actively written to / read from in various
ways - concurrent access, mmap, etc.
Also make sure to test files used by sendfile() and splice()/vmsplice().
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On 10/05/2010 11:01 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote:
snip
cool! I suppose I could turn it on in rawhide, or you could just
build your own e2fsprogs to get it ...
-Eric
Cool if you turn it on in rawhide. Helps those of us who are build
challenged :-). I can test in raid and LV environments.
Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
On 10/05/2010 11:01 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote:
snip
cool! I suppose I could turn it on in rawhide, or you could just
build your own e2fsprogs to get it ...
-Eric
Cool if you turn it on in rawhide. Helps those of us who are build
challenged :-). I can test in
On 06/10/10 16:29, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
snip
Cool if you turn it on in rawhide. Helps those of us who are build
challenged :-). I can test in raid and LV environments.
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Likewise, if basic instruction provided.
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On 06/10/10 16:31, Eric Sandeen wrote:
Maybe I'm being a bit too paranoid but it is your data after all :)
I just use Rawhide for testing,
so a little reinstall keeps you in practice :D
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On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 16:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
However, this here is Fedora, a project that once was aiming at
Freedom - As trivial as it is, restrictive trademark policies simply
do not fit into this philosophy.
If we don't protect the Fedora trademark, anyone can produce
Matthew Garrett (mj...@srcf.ucam.org) said:
But I cannot list all the RHEL6 bugs.
Why not? Strip partner names if necessary, but please make it possible
for people to decide whether a given update is a benefit to them.
Well, he could list them in the bug field, but bodhi would elide
them
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 10:59:08 -0400,
Nathaniel McCallum nathan...@natemccallum.com wrote:
I have an idea... I'm going to create a fork of Fedora. I'm going to
fill it full of proprietary shit. I'm going to find the buggiest closed
drivers I can find and load them into the kernel. I'll
On 10/06/2010 12:12 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 10:59:08 -0400,
Nathaniel McCallum nathan...@natemccallum.com wrote:
I have an idea... I'm going to create a fork of Fedora. I'm going to
fill it full of proprietary shit. I'm going to find the buggiest closed
drivers
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 12:29:59 -0400,
Nathaniel McCallum nathan...@natemccallum.com wrote:
The only possible room for debate that I see is that there is, in
Firefox, a potential conflict between our ship upstream and don't
bundle libs values. We have FESco to sort that out.
Those are
On 10/05/2010 09:48 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
On 10/05/2010 02:35 AM, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 5 October 2010 05:30, Orion Poplawskior...@cora.nwra.com wrote:
Are we really stuck with gdm/kdm/lxdm/...dm
implementing it?
No, I think what we need to do is to teach GPM how to turn off the
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:22:44AM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
Well, I guess some people would want the laptop to suspend, but it's a
very good question. Now all it needs is someone willing and able to
write a little patch for me :-)
Do you know which components need patching to make Fedora
On 10/06/2010 12:50 PM, Till Maas wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:22:44AM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
Well, I guess some people would want the laptop to suspend, but it's a
very good question. Now all it needs is someone willing and able to
write a little patch for me :-)
Do you know
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 12:54:41PM -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
I'm pretty sure docking stations are irrelevant to this whole thread.
The issue is about lids and video outputs. If you think lids are all
over the place (as mjg59 points out), docks are even worse. Lets not
drag them into
On 10/06/2010 05:59 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Matthew Garrett (mj...@srcf.ucam.org) said:
But I cannot list all the RHEL6 bugs.
Why not? Strip partner names if necessary, but please make it possible
for people to decide whether a given update is a benefit to them.
Well, he could list them
On 10/06/2010 01:17 PM, Till Maas wrote:
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 12:54:41PM -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
I'm pretty sure docking stations are irrelevant to this whole thread.
The issue is about lids and video outputs. If you think lids are all
over the place (as mjg59 points out), docks
Once upon a time, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to said:
Some have
also hoped that Mozilla would change with regard to bundled libraries in the
near future, but that seems pretty unlikely.
I think that's an unfair statement; from what I understand, Firefox has
already unbundled some libraries,
On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 12:58 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
Hi, everyone. So we partly used the proposed new nice-to-have bug
tracking system during the F14 Beta process, and it seemed to go well.
In a quick burst of airport productivity, I've quickly written up a
bunch of proposed new wiki
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On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 12:25:27 -0500,
Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
Once upon a time, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to said:
Some have
also hoped that Mozilla would change with regard to bundled libraries in the
near future, but that seems pretty unlikely.
I think that's an
Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com writes:
It's really pretty simple: we can only define goals and values and
blahblah for 'the Fedora project' as long as we actually retain control
over 'the Fedora project' (that's we as in the Fedora community, not Red
Hat, BTW) and we can only do that
Frank Murphy wrote:
On 06/10/10 16:31, Eric Sandeen wrote:
Maybe I'm being a bit too paranoid but it is your data after all :)
I just use Rawhide for testing,
so a little reinstall keeps you in practice :D
OK gang, it's in e2fsprogs-1.41.12-6.fc15
you have to invoke it with -test
On 10/06/2010 02:01 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote:
snip
OK gang, it's in e2fsprogs-1.41.12-6.fc15
you have to invoke it with -test options to make it go ;)
Word of warning, it's not had a lot of attention, and the whole
design could change in the future, but it's something to play with :)
-Eric
Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
On 10/06/2010 02:01 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote:
snip
OK gang, it's in e2fsprogs-1.41.12-6.fc15
you have to invoke it with -test options to make it go ;)
Word of warning, it's not had a lot of attention, and the whole
design could change in the future, but it's something
W dniu 6 października 2010 15:42 użytkownik Eric Sandeen
sand...@redhat.com napisał:
Michał Piotrowski wrote:
W dniu 6 października 2010 05:01 użytkownik Eric Sandeen
sand...@redhat.com napisał:
...
cool! I suppose I could turn it on in rawhide, or you could just
build your own e2fsprogs
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--- Comment #1 from James Laska jla...@redhat.com 2010-10-06 14:37:31 EDT ---
Sorry, typo, that was supposed to be ...
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:19:08 +0200
Michal Schmidt mschm...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:14:28 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:45:11 +0200
Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote:
Ok - that's one problem - we sucks in selective updates and
information
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 08:29:32 -0400
Brandon Lozza bran...@pwnage.ca wrote:
...snip many tons of lines...
Can you please trim your replies?
Interesting, from the meeting we can tell
1) A number of people want to give Mozilla an exception.
2) BRANDING is an issue, like I said in another
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 19:20:55 +0200
Harald Hoyer har...@redhat.com wrote:
here we go:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dracut-005-5.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dracut-005-5.fc12
Patches are here:
short URL: http://goo.gl/23Bu
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 06:29:21PM -0600, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote:
On 05/10/10 08:40 AM, FlorianFesti wrote:
On 10/05/2010 03:15 PM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
If the lid is open, both output should be enabled by default (you are
free to manually disable one). If the lid is closed on
Adam Williamson said the following on 10/06/2010 01:32 PM Pacific Time:
On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 12:58 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
Hi, everyone. So we partly used the proposed new nice-to-have bug
tracking system during the F14 Beta process, and it seemed to go well.
In a quick burst of airport
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 08:53:12AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 09:35 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 5 October 2010 05:30, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote:
Are we really stuck with gdm/kdm/lxdm/...dm
implementing it?
No, I think what we need to do is
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:28:43AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 19:20 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:18:32AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
don't we already have default behaviours based on the lid switch,
anyway? So why don't we have
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 07:31:54PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 19:20 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:18:32AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
don't we already have
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 14:58 -0400, John Poelstra wrote:
Adam Williamson said the following on 10/06/2010 01:32 PM Pacific Time:
On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 12:58 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
Hi, everyone. So we partly used the proposed new nice-to-have bug
tracking system during the F14 Beta
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Michal Schmidt mschm...@redhat.com wrote:
[snip]
Of course. But there's in fact no disagreement, only looking at
different aspects of the same thing.
Why do you think the copying takes place? Because the companies have
built a good reputation and brand,
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 22:03 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:28:43AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 19:20 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:18:32AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
don't we already have default
On 10/06/2010 08:31 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Seems quite complex. What's wrong with a directory:
/etc/iptables.d/
where RPMs like libvirt just drop the required additional rules (in a
separate chain if you like) and restart the iptables service? It's
low-tech but simple and it's
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On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 09:57 +0200, Martin Stransky wrote:
On 09/30/2010 08:54 PM, Sven Lankes wrote:
2. The combination of the Mozilla Trademark issue combined with the
strict handling of patches by (corporate|distro)-maintainers (I don't
think that this is a RH/Fedora issue - same
When: Friday, 2010-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net
Here are the current bugs listed as blocking the final release of Fedora
14. We'll be discussing all of these to determine if they meet the
criteria, should stay on the list, and are getting the
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 18:05 -0400, Brian Pepple wrote:
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 17:53 -0400, John Poelstra wrote:
--If you are the OWNER of one of these bugs, PLEASE add a comment to the
bug letting us know how things are going and what you are planning to do
next. I
639730 :: MODIFIED
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 15:25 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 18:05 -0400, Brian Pepple wrote:
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 17:53 -0400, John Poelstra wrote:
--If you are the OWNER of one of these bugs, PLEASE add a comment to the
bug letting us know how things are going and
On 6 October 2010 23:25, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
This isn't generally how we do things. We encourage people to mark bugs
as blockers; this constitutes *nominating* the bug as a blocker, it
makes it pop up for review at a blocker review meeting. We then usually
determine
On 10/06/2010 11:26 AM, Thomas Woerner wrote:
6) Compatibility Mode
The current static firewall model will still be available for
compatibility for users or administrators creating their own firewall.
This deactivates the firewall service and also the D-BUS daemon.
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Comments
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 02:00:50PM +1000, Brendan Jones wrote:
On 10/07/2010 12:10 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
But I agree that having a strict requirement because it's felt that the
issues that are raised by allowing the requirement to be violated are very
problematic for us as a distro but
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Date: Wed Oct 6 11:07:02 2010 +0200
Relax requiremnet on perl-Storabe.
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