Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-08-20 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 2011-08-19 20:41, Kevin Kofler wrote: Updates can be pulled out of updates-testing at any moment, which makes a lot of sense, but which means that users with updates-testing enabled will end up with the EVR going backwards, something that's not even allowed in Rawhide. Enabling

Re: Changing default setting of bash's hash table?

2011-08-20 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 08/20/2011 12:09 AM, Maciej Małecki wrote: Not worth it, one can always use which to verify if command is gone or is bash is going mad. +1 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Self Introduction

2011-08-20 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:49:23PM -0700, Steve Jenkins wrote: On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/19/2011 06:02 AM, Steve Jenkins wrote: Hi - the purpose of this email is to introduce myself as a prospective new package maintainer for Fedora.

Re: Changing default setting of bash's hash table?

2011-08-20 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 01:24:37PM +0200, Roman Rakus wrote: I have a question, if it is worth to enable this option by default? It will not confuse some people, but can increase disk searching. Comments welcome. How can it increase disk searching in case the program is still there? It

Re: Changing default setting of bash's hash table?

2011-08-20 Thread Maciej Małecki
2011/8/20 Till Maas opensou...@till.name: How can it increase disk searching in case the program is still there? It needs to be fetched from the disk anyhow when it is run. Or am I missing something here? It's just one stat with every command execution. If you're curious how it looks

Re: RFC: Fedora-medical comps patch

2011-08-20 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:28:38AM +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote: Hello, You may have noticed a lot of packaging activity on the fedora-medical front[1]. There are still quite a few packages in the review queue. Some have been approved, and we'd like to get started with the comps group. I've

Seamonkey status

2011-08-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi Seamonkey hasn't been updated in a long time. Someone recently mentioned it in identi.ca and filed a bug report to update it. I was looking into it and the spec doesn't seem to be following the packaging guidelines. Source tarball seems to have created locally and doesn't point to a URL.

Re: Seamonkey status

2011-08-20 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 20.8.2011 12:09, Rahul Sundaram napsal(a): Seamonkey hasn't been updated in a long time. Someone recently mentioned it in identi.ca and filed a bug report to update it. I was looking into it and the spec doesn't seem to be following the packaging guidelines. Source tarball seems to

Re: Seamonkey status

2011-08-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/20/2011 03:57 PM, Matěj Cepl wrote: Putting Firefox maintainers on CC to have a definite word on this, but I suspect that Seamonkey is generally completely in the arms of community. I guess if anybody wants to take it over formally in pkgdb he would be welcome. Chris and Kai, am I

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Lars Seipel
On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 00:13 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: if you can give a warning you can also stop the socket this is what the user expects and if your software-design is not able to act logically it is broken Stopping the service but leaving the possibility for later socket activation is a

rawhide report: 20110820 changes

2011-08-20 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Aug 20 08:15:14 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- FlightGear-2.0.0-6.fc16.x86_64 requires libosgViewer.so.74()(64bit) FlightGear-2.0.0-6.fc16.x86_64 requires libosgUtil.so.74()(64bit)

fedora 15 didn.t detected my Wifi card.

2011-08-20 Thread Navdeep Singh Sidhu
Hello, I have installed fedora 15 on my portable hardisk. Recently i had updated my fedora kernel to 2.6.40 nd now it is working fine but it didn't detected my wifi card(Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230 ). Need some help. Plz. Regards Navdeep Singh -- devel mailing list

Re: fedora 15 didn.t detected my Wifi card.

2011-08-20 Thread Maciej Małecki
2011/8/20 Navdeep Singh Sidhu navdeepsingh.sidh...@gmail.com Hello, I have installed fedora 15 on my portable hardisk. Recently i had updated my fedora kernel to 2.6.40 nd now it is working fine but it didn't detected my wifi card(Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230 ). Need some help. Plz.

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Steve Grubb
On Friday, August 19, 2011 10:50:01 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: Tim Waugh wrote: Oh, I just noticed this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd#Socket_activa tion Since Fedora currently doesn't want any services to do on-demand loading, all socket activated services

Re: Changing default setting of bash's hash table?

2011-08-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Roman Rakus wrote: Maybe the subject is a bit misleading, I will clarify it. Bash is using hash table to remember locations of executed commands. Whenever you try to run a command bash looks in hash table. When the command is found in table then bash will you full path name as it is in the

systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-20 Thread Reindl Harald
WHY do F16 and F17 get permanently updated and nobody cares about the beta-release called F15 GA any longer? F15 is SEVEN versions behind! sometimes it seems nobody cares about GA-Releases to have arguments updating to the next as soon as possible where all will be better and the things which

Re: systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2011/8/20 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net: WHY do F16 and F17 get permanently updated and nobody cares about the beta-release called F15 GA any longer? It's maintained - serious bugs are fixed. F15 is SEVEN versions behind! sometimes it seems nobody cares about GA-Releases to

Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Arun SAG
Hi, We are working on a remix(considering a spin) of Fedora that could be used in schools[1], The problem is, most of these schools in India use donated computers and have very less memory (256 Mb - 512 Mb). According to this blog post

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.08.2011 04:50, schrieb Kevin Kofler: Tim Waugh wrote: Oh, I just noticed this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd#Socket_activation Since Fedora currently doesn't want any services to do on-demand loading, all socket activated services must autostart. What

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.08.2011 14:09, schrieb Lars Seipel: On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 00:13 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: if you can give a warning you can also stop the socket this is what the user expects and if your software-design is not able to act logically it is broken Stopping the service but leaving the

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 20.08.11 04:50, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: Tim Waugh wrote: Oh, I just noticed this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd#Socket_activation Since Fedora currently doesn't want any services to do on-demand loading, all socket activated

Re: systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 20.08.11 16:25, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: WHY do F16 and F17 get permanently updated and nobody cares about the beta-release called F15 GA any longer? F15 is SEVEN versions behind! Like most packages in Fedora systemd in released distributions is only updated

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 20.08.11 09:41, Steve Grubb (sgr...@redhat.com) wrote: On Friday, August 19, 2011 10:50:01 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: Tim Waugh wrote: Oh, I just noticed this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd#Socket_activa tion Since Fedora currently doesn't want

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Steve Clark
On 08/20/2011 08:09 AM, Lars Seipel wrote: On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 00:13 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: if you can give a warning you can also stop the socket this is what the user expects and if your software-design is not able to act logically it is broken Stopping the service but leaving the

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread John Reiser
... I understand that some one is working on reducing the memory footprint of anaconda. Will it be ready for F16? The treebuilder branch of lorax, where such a project is being developed, is not complete today. How much memory will anaconda require to install Fedora 16? Anaconda

Re: systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.08.2011 19:58, schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Sat, 20.08.11 16:25, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: WHY do F16 and F17 get permanently updated and nobody cares about the beta-release called F15 GA any longer? F15 is SEVEN versions behind! Like most packages in Fedora

Re: systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/8/20 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net: Am 20.08.2011 19:58, schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Sat, 20.08.11 16:25, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: WHY do F16 and F17 get permanently updated and nobody cares about the beta-release called F15 GA any longer? F15 is SEVEN

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Steve Grubb
On Saturday, August 20, 2011 02:17:04 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: On Sat, 20.08.11 09:41, Steve Grubb (sgr...@redhat.com) wrote: On Friday, August 19, 2011 10:50:01 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: Tim Waugh wrote: Oh, I just noticed this:

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20:31:55 +0200, John Reiser wrote: Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (=1GB) if there is no swap partition. [...] Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using anaconda. This reduces the memory requirements by 128MB:

Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Andre Robatino
Would it be possible to create a custom image that just does a minimal (possibly text-based) install? This might reduce memory requirements even more, and extra packages could be added later - the DVD could be used as a repo if bandwidth is an issue. -- devel mailing list

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:31:55 -0700 John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote: How much memory will anaconda require to install Fedora 16? Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (=1GB) if there is no swap partition. It is not just Anaconda. F15 GA kernel would not even uncompress initramfs on

Self Introduction

2011-08-20 Thread Jaroslav Imrich
Hey all, my name is Jaroslav I live in Slovakia (central europe) and I am the upstream author of ipwatchd - daemon that detects IP conflicts in Linux. I maintain ipwatchd packages in Debian and I've received few request from Fedora users that they would like to see it packaged as RPM. So here I

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Aditya Patawari
Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using anaconda. Arun, lets use live installer. Anaconda won't help in schools. Live, anyway, has its advantages and kids/teachers can check it out before installation. -- Aditya Patawari http://blog.adityapatawari.com/ India --

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/21/2011 10:51 AM, Aditya Patawari wrote: Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using anaconda. Arun, lets use live installer. Anaconda won't help in schools. Live, anyway, has its advantages and kids/teachers can check it out before installation. Live installer

[perl-Pod-Wordlist-hanekomu/f14] Initial import (perl-Pod-Wordlist-hanekomu-1.110090-3)

2011-08-20 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 4cde408... Initial import (perl-Pod-Wordlist-hanekomu-1.110090-3) (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[perl-Test-Mojibake/f14] Initial import (perl-Test-Mojibake-0.3-2)

2011-08-20 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 43d4f14... Initial import (perl-Test-Mojibake-0.3-2) (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Test-Mojibake] Created tag perl-Test-Mojibake-0.3-2.fc14

2011-08-20 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Test-Mojibake-0.3-2.fc14' was created pointing to: 43d4f14... Initial import (perl-Test-Mojibake-0.3-2) -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Test-Mojibake] Created tag perl-Test-Mojibake-0.3-2.fc15

2011-08-20 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Test-Mojibake-0.3-2.fc15' was created pointing to: 43d4f14... Initial import (perl-Test-Mojibake-0.3-2) -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Pod-Wordlist-hanekomu] Created tag perl-Pod-Wordlist-hanekomu-1.110090-3.fc14

2011-08-20 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Pod-Wordlist-hanekomu-1.110090-3.fc14' was created pointing to: 4cde408... Initial import (perl-Pod-Wordlist-hanekomu-1.110090-3) -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Test-Mojibake/f15] Initial import (perl-Test-Mojibake-0.3-2)

2011-08-20 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 43d4f14... Initial import (perl-Test-Mojibake-0.3-2) (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Broken dependencies: perl-NOCpulse-Gritch

2011-08-20 Thread buildsys
perl-NOCpulse-Gritch has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-1.fc16.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) On i386: perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-1.fc16.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) Please resolve this as soon as

Broken dependencies: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule

2011-08-20 Thread buildsys
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the F-16 tree: On x86_64: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) On i386: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) Please resolve this as soon as

Broken dependencies: perl-NOCpulse-Gritch

2011-08-20 Thread buildsys
perl-NOCpulse-Gritch has broken dependencies in the F-16 tree: On x86_64: perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-1.fc16.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) On i386: perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-1.fc16.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) Please resolve this as soon as