Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Giovanni Campagna scampa.giova...@gmail.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 1:03:27 AM Subject: A software center for Fedora As promised in my previous mail, here is what I find that's lacking in Fedora, compared to

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 02:26:44 +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote: (3) He is not going to wait for installation of new games to try them. He wants to just click and run the game - like he does with Flash games, immediately. I have no problem running there: yum --setopt

PHP 5.4 as Fedora 17 feature ?

2011-11-27 Thread Remi Collet
PHP 5.4 enter RC stage So, I'm working to upgrade all the PHP stack (for now in my testing repo) I think PHP 5.4.0 (finale/stable) will be available for fedora 17, so I plan to update it (and all C extension before fedora 17 feature freeze) Do you think I should submit a feature proposal ?

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno dom, 27/11/2011 alle 02.06 +0100, Björn Persson ha scritto: Gregory Maxwell wrote: Can someone help me understand whats being asked for here? I can only guess that I'm not the only person confused by this thread. Icons. The only thing I can see that Giovanni has mentioned that

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno dom, 27/11/2011 alle 03.08 -0500, Aleksandar Kurtakov ha scritto: [...] IIRC and think about the same package - this was a package containing data that is part of repos metadata, without any idea how it would be for kept uptodate with latest packages. From time to time

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno sab, 26/11/2011 alle 10.05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram ha scritto: On 11/26/2011 04:33 AM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: I hope that some people from the relevant group will point me to the right place (perhaps starting from what happened to fedora-app-install...), and I hope you like the

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno ven, 25/11/2011 alle 17.31 -0600, Rex Dieter ha scritto: Giovanni Campagna wrote: Long long ago (march 2009), a package was proposed for inclusion, which contained application data, in a format understood by software-center, for fedora at that time. This package was initially

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: well, if people who not going to read any textes are the primary target of a operationg system this world is going down Welcome to the real world. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.11.2011 14:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: well, if people who not going to read any textes are the primary target of a operationg system this world is going down Welcome to the real world. i know and it is sad enough as it is now but is

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Heiko Adams
Am 27.11.2011 16:01, schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 27.11.2011 14:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: well, if people who not going to read any textes are the primary target of a operationg system this world is going down Welcome to the real world. i

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno dom, 27/11/2011 alle 16.18 +0100, Heiko Adams ha scritto: Am 27.11.2011 16:01, schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 27.11.2011 14:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: well, if people who not going to read any textes are the primary target of a

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 08:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 27.11.2011 14:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: well, if people who not going to read any textes are the primary target of a operationg system this world is going down Welcome to the real world. i

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 08:48 PM, Heiko Adams wrote: And a software center is IMHO walking in the wrong direction. The packagemanagement system is Linux biggest advantage for normal users. Do you understand that software centre is just a UI on top of the package manager + additional metadata like

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:00:45 +0530 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/27/2011 08:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 27.11.2011 14:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: well, if people who not going to read any textes are the primary

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 09:20 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: I think this is going a little far. Saying that people are better off being able to read is not elitist. Yes it is. Because you are assuming that it is because people have trouble reading. I can read just fine but I would love to have screenshots

Re: Just Patched Kmess 2.0.6.1 :)

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 03:01 AM, Manuel Escudero wrote: Ok, Just reported the bug at bugzilla explaining everything about the problem and leaving a link to the patched RPM's in the description of the bug, also attached the patch I used to fix the problem into the filed bug so you guys can fix it

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Björn Persson
Giovanni Campagna wrote: We also need translations (that are in .desktop files but not in .spec files), Looky here, a spec file with translations: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=mine_detector.git;a=blob;f=mine_detector.spec;h=294bcf4148789afb1ba7bb7b11971e231e001061;hb=master Making

2.6.41.2-1.fc15.x86_64: missing bridge support?

2011-11-27 Thread Reindl Harald
is there something missing in recent F15-Kernels? i prepare this machine for play wireless-ap and what is much more worse currently in our company is running a openvpn-server with F14 using brdige-utils which should be upgraded soon to F15 [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ /usr/sbin/brctl addbr br0 add

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 02:06:51AM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: Gregory Maxwell wrote: Can someone help me understand whats being asked for here? I can only guess that I'm not the only person confused by this thread. Icons. The only thing I can see that Giovanni has mentioned that

Re: 2.6.41.2-1.fc15.x86_64: missing bridge support?

2011-11-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.11.2011 18:52, schrieb Reindl Harald: is there something missing in recent F15-Kernels? i prepare this machine for play wireless-ap and what is much more worse currently in our company is running a openvpn-server with F14 using brdige-utils which should be upgraded soon to F15

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:06:33 +0530 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/27/2011 09:20 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: I think this is going a little far. Saying that people are better off being able to read is not elitist. Yes it is. Because you are assuming that it is because

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/28/2011 12:01 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote: Call me elitist then, I think it is better when more people can read, and when they actually do it. Unfortunately for someone talking about so much about the important of reading, you don't seem to be reading about the proposal much. Its not

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno dom, 27/11/2011 alle 18.47 +0100, Björn Persson ha scritto: Giovanni Campagna wrote: We also need translations (that are in .desktop files but not in .spec files), Looky here, a spec file with translations:

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 04:47 PM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: I knew about that, and that's in fact what I'm starting from, although the big problem is obtaining the metadata, not showing it. So, the next logical question would be, how does openSUSE solve this? Rahul -- devel mailing list

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:09:46 +0530 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/28/2011 12:01 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote: Call me elitist then, I think it is better when more people can read, and when they actually do it. Unfortunately for someone talking about so much about the

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 12:19:21 +0100 Giovanni Campagna scampa.giova...@gmail.com wrote: The fedora-app-install review was brought to FESCo (https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/469), which agreed to ship the package, but then nothing happened. Just to be clear, FESCo agreed that the package

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com wrote: Removing the screenshots, icons, popularity vote results etc etc post-install is not a good solution. These things should be available when someone wants to look at them, not installed by default. The mechanisms to

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Angus Salkeld
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 02:06:51AM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: Gregory Maxwell wrote: Can someone help me understand whats being asked for here? I can only guess that I'm not the only person confused by this thread. Icons. The only thing I can see that Giovanni has mentioned that

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/28/2011 01:39 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote: It is useful to point out that the space requirements are significant. You would want an implementation that does _not_ store all this information on installed systems. Separate the advertising part from the packaging part. Make the

[Bug 757475] New: perl-WWW-Mechanize-1.71 is available

2011-11-27 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-WWW-Mechanize-1.71 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=757475 Summary: perl-WWW-Mechanize-1.71 is available Product:

[perl-Class-Load-XS] Initial import (perl-Class-Load-XS-0.03-1)

2011-11-27 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 31fc207fde07a2811913eb07dbf82f22a0d583c1 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Mon Nov 28 00:36:57 2011 + Initial import (perl-Class-Load-XS-0.03-1) This module provides an XS implementation for portions of Class::Load. See Class::Load for API details.

[perl-Class-Load-XS/f16] Initial import (perl-Class-Load-XS-0.03-1)

2011-11-27 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 31fc207... Initial import (perl-Class-Load-XS-0.03-1) (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

More Re: [Distutils] Compatibility of bdist_rpm with Fedora packaging instructions

2011-11-27 Thread Stanley A. Klein
One additional issue: The system produces pyo and pyc files for all the .py files it finds. That is good for the files that go into site-packages because they are intended to be executed from there, but might not be so good for documentation files such as examples and code-snippets that are