Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Daniel P. Berrangé: > Yes, I wouldn't bother thinking about cross compilation using Fedora, > except for mingw. For Linux cross compilation it is easier to use > Debian in a container from your Fedora host. > > You can install library / devel packages from any Debian architecture > no matter

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Matyáš Kroupa
Hi, I use wine and steam (and some libraries which are required to run them) with total of 254 i686 packages. Matyáš ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code

Fedora-Cloud-34-20220317.0 compose check report

2022-03-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-34-20220316.0): ID: 1179359 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL:

Re: Missing 'pkgconfig(portaudiocpp) >= 12' for EPEL9

2022-03-17 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
Hello, Luya. On Thursday, 17 March 2022 at 04:20, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Hello team, it looks like 'pkgconfig(portaudiocpp) >= 12' is missing in > EPEL9 repository while available in EPEL8. > > See https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=84302098 > > Could someone port that

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Richard W. M. Jones: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 07:27:05PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: >> Native compilation on 32-bit is a dead end. > > And I was going to add that this is wrong - 32 bit chroots running on > 64 bit hosts work fine and run at full speed. No, not for everyone, they don't.

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 11:10:12AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Richard W. M. Jones: > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 07:27:05PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > >> Native compilation on 32-bit is a dead end. > > > > And I was going to add that this is wrong - 32 bit chroots running on > > 64

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 6:25 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 11:10:12AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Richard W. M. Jones: > > > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 07:27:05PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > >> Native compilation on 32-bit is a dead end. > > > > > > And

Re: Singular soname bump and a review swap

2022-03-17 Thread Paulo César Pereira de Andrade
Em sex., 11 de mar. de 2022 às 18:42, Jerry James escreveu: > > HI Paulo, Hi Jerry, > It's great to hear from you. I hope you are well. Sorry for again taking a bit long to respond :( I have sagemath 9.5 built locally for almost a month, but I will not interfere with your work right now,

Re: only 4 packages left Re: Let's retire original glib and gtk+ (new report)

2022-03-17 Thread Leigh Scott
> On Thu, 2022-03-10 at 00:15 +0200, Otto Urpelainen wrote: > > Continuing I brought the corrections to Fedora 36 > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-db793ad26c > > Now only 4 packages more gtk1+ depends on glib > > Depending packages (rawhide) (5): bubblemon gtk+ manedit

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 07:27:05PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > Native compilation on 32-bit is a dead end. And I was going to add that this is wrong - 32 bit chroots running on 64 bit hosts work fine and run at full speed. (Or 32 bit VMs, but you need to still build kernel.i686 which we

Fedora-Cloud-35-20220317.0 compose check report

2022-03-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-35-20220316.0): ID: 1179343 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL:

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 09:54:12AM -0400, David Cantrell wrote: > If you use i686 packages for something now, please respond to this thread. (1) To compile 32 bit binaries using gcc -m32. Note that I don't actually care about using these binaries, I use them only to run the test suite for

Re: VERY late notification emails

2022-03-17 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 07. 03. 22 v 19:12 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): I watched it over the weekend, and now it's only 3 days behind. ;( Hopefully it will finish catching up... I'm continuing to watch it. It eventually caught up and I have received the notifications on time up until 2022-03-16 15:49:09 UTC. After

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-17 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 1:06:34 PM CET Neal Gompa wrote: > > For completeness, here is a pull request by Miro Hrončok to change the > > packaging of curl to something that FESCO would like to have for the > > proposed Fedora change to be accepted: > > > > > > > >

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 07:27:05PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > On 3/16/22 10:35, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > David Cantrell writes: > > > >> Why? Since the removal of the i686 kernel in Fedora, we want to > >> reduce the number of i686 packages provided in the repo. As time > >> marches

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 09:07:50AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 07:27:05PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On 3/16/22 10:35, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > > David Cantrell writes: > > > > > >> Why? Since the removal of the i686 kernel in Fedora, we want to > > >>

Fedora 36 compose report: 20220317.n.0 changes

2022-03-17 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-36-20220316.n.0 NEW: Fedora-36-20220317.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:3 Dropped images: 1 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 8 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of upgraded

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-17 Thread Petr Pisar
V Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:34:52PM +0100, Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > What has the PDC [1] ever done for us? It only bough pain and misery to me > for no apparent benefit. > > > 1) When we retire packages in dist-git, PDC creates another layer of delay > between dist-git and Koji and another place

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Tom Seewald
The i686 packages I use are: gamemode, gperftools-devel (to provide a working version of libtcmalloc_minimal), SDL2, steam, and their dependencies. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 16.03.22 um 14:54 schrieb David Cantrell: If you use i686 packages for something now, please respond to this thread. mainly for Wine 32 bit compatibility, which is still a think with windows-software today :( Best regards, Marius ___ devel

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Aaron Stern via devel
I use wine and would need 32bit gstreamer; base, good, bad, ugly and libav for some Visual Novels that use MPEG for video. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

Re: Orphaning deltarpm

2022-03-17 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 14. 03. 22 v 23:23 John Reiser napsal(a): The default /etc/dnf/dnf.conf lists only a few options with no individual documentation, and contains no explicit pointer to more documentation.  I expect better: all reasonable attempts should lead quickly to the relevant documentation.  This is the

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-17 Thread Tomas Hrcka
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 3:09 PM Petr Pisar wrote: > V Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:34:52PM +0100, Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > > What has the PDC [1] ever done for us? It only bough pain and misery to > me > > for no apparent benefit. > > > > > > 1) When we retire packages in dist-git, PDC creates

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > > +1 on cross-compilation. Native compilation on 32-bit is a dead end. > > Cross-compilation isn't really practical for RPMs the way we do things > now. We would have to go all-in the way OpenSUSE has done, but that's > a huge change. cross builds is a thing for kernel and firmware

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 6:25 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 11:10:12AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Richard W. M. Jones: > > > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 07:27:05PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > >> Native compilation on 32-bit is a dead end. > > > > > > And

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-17 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 17. 03. 22 v 12:34 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): Where is the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health that the PDC have done for us? ABRT uses PDC to (automaticaly) determine which release is active, what Fedora versions

What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
Hello Fedora packagers. What has the PDC [1] ever done for us? It only bough pain and misery to me for no apparent benefit. 1) When we retire packages in dist-git, PDC creates another layer of delay between dist-git and Koji and another place when synchronization regularly breaks.

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 17/03/2022 11:24, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: This is true, but what proportion of packages does this really affect? Telegram Desktop (and tdlib) requires more than 16 GB of RAM. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ devel

Re: only 4 packages left Re: Let's retire original glib and gtk+ (new report)

2022-03-17 Thread Petr Pisar
V Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 08:36:55AM -, Leigh Scott napsal(a): > > On Thu, 2022-03-10 at 00:15 +0200, Otto Urpelainen wrote: > > xvattr (maintained by: ppisar, thias) > > gxvattr-1.3-44.fc36.x86_64 requires libgdk-1.2.so.0()(64bit), libglib- > > 1.2.so.0()(64bit), libgtk-1.2.so.0()(64bit) > > >

Re: only 4 packages left Re: Let's retire original glib and gtk+ (new report)

2022-03-17 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:16 AM Sérgio Basto wrote: > xconvers (maintained by: hobbes1069) > xconvers-0.8.3-29.fc36.x86_64 requires libglib-1.2.so.0()(64bit) > > still only available on aur and Fedora > https://repology.org/project/xconvers/versions This can probably be retired. I'll check on

FedoraRespin-35-updates-20220316.0 compose check report

2022-03-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 5/48 (x86_64) ID: 1180045 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso gnome_text_editor URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1180045 ID: 1180053 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_login URL:

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Steven Ellis
The issue on our home systems is 3rd party printer drivers. Eg mfc9140cdncupswrapper-1.1.4-0.i386 dcpj4120dwlpr-3.0.1-1.i386 dcpj4120dwcupswrapper-3.0.1-1.i386 mfc9140cdnlpr-1.1.2-1.i386 These then pull in a whole load of dependencies relating to CUPs etc.

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 9:54 AM David Cantrell wrote: > > Hi, > > Our most recent FESCo meeting involved discussing the proposal to drop i686 > builds of jdk8,11,17 from Fedora 37 onward. The topic quickly changed to the > larger question of "what do people use i686 packages for?" > > Rather

Fedora-36-20220317.n.0 compose check report

2022-03-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 11/229 (x86_64), 10/161 (aarch64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-36-20220316.n.0): ID: 1179494 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso support_server URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1179494 ID: 1179505 Test: x86_64

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2022-03-17 at 12:34 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Where is the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, > roads, a fresh water system, and public health that the PDC have done for us? > > > Serious question: Why do we need PDC? What actual problems does it

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-17 Thread Christopher
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:29 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > It stores the metadata of all composes that have been run, ever. (Well, > when there isn't a bug in the sync, anyway). This is useful in several > ways: [snip] I think a lot of the Fedora infrastructure complexity and difficulty

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-17 Thread Carlos "casep" Sepulveda
On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 at 13:55, David Cantrell wrote: > > If you use i686 packages for something now, please respond to this thread. > > steam / wine -- "Never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force;

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-17 Thread Petr Pisar
V Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 04:13:44PM +0100, Tomas Hrcka napsal(a): > On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 3:09 PM Petr Pisar wrote: > > Having the dist-git retirement as a primary source of truth has the problem > > that you need to clone a dist-git branch to get the data. And then for each > > package you are

[Bug 2064808] Update perl to 5.34.1

2022-03-17 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2064808 --- Comment #3 from Petr Pisar --- When building it for F35, please build perl into a side-tag together with the few package which requires exact perl version. E.g. polymake and perl-PAR-Packer. Unfortunately, "dnf repoquery --whatrequires

[Bug 2065018] New: perl-DateTime-TimeZone-2.52 is available

2022-03-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 2064353] perl-Module-CoreList-5.20220313 is available

2022-03-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 2065503] New: perl-PPIx-Regexp-0.083 is available

2022-03-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 2061133] perl-CLASS-1.1.7 is available

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[Bug 2061133] perl-CLASS-1.1.7 is available

2022-03-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 2061470] perl-Socket-GetAddrInfo: please provide epel9 package

2022-03-17 Thread bugzilla
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[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing report

2022-03-17 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 8 Security updates need testing: Age URL 20 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2022-17ae719cb2 syncthing-1.18.6-3.el8 3 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2022-d431be322b zabbix40-4.0.39-1.el8 3

[Bug 2064353] perl-Module-CoreList-5.20220313 is available

2022-03-17 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2064353 --- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System --- FEDORA-2022-c7fab5f521 has been pushed to the Fedora 34 testing repository. Soon you'll be able to install the update with the following command: `sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing

[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing report

2022-03-17 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 7 Security updates need testing: Age URL 6 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2022-e1430e72de wordpress-5.1.13-1.el7 3 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2022-bd2c412d62 zabbix40-4.0.39-1.el7 3

[Bug 2065327] perl-Scalar-List-Utils-1.62 is available

2022-03-17 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2065327 --- Comment #1 from Upstream Release Monitoring --- Scratch build failed. Details bellow: BuilderException: Build started, but failure happened during post build operations: Command '['rpmbuild', '-D', '_sourcedir .', '-D', '_topdir .',

[Bug 2065327] New: perl-Scalar-List-Utils-1.62 is available

2022-03-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 2064353] perl-Module-CoreList-5.20220313 is available

2022-03-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 2064808] Update perl to 5.34.1

2022-03-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 2064642] F37FailsToInstall: perl-PAR-Packer

2022-03-17 Thread bugzilla
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