Thomas Spura wrote:
Am Samstag, den 24.04.2010, 13:27 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
There is a alternative. For some of my packages, I have asked upstream
to sign up for a Fedora account and apply to watch commits and bugs.
Since my packages are either patch free or I apply patches
Adam Williamson wrote:
Not really. abrt reports are bug reports on crashing applications. The
fact that they're automatically generated doesn't really matter a lot.
Our policies should be as wide as practical, having special policies for
some bugs just because they happen to have been
Christoph Wickert wrote:
We have this nice ABRT tool now, so please let the bug reports our users
collect not be useless and forward them upstream cause that's where they
belong. We are not collecting these reports to let them rotten in our
bugzilla and get them closed by the bugzappers. This
Martin Stransky wrote:
No, you get it wrong. It's about cooperation, we work with upstream to
release one valid product. See the upstream bug, the fix may be included
in next security update.
That's too late. It should have been applied weeks ago! That crash has been
known for 7 weeks, a
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Well, c.f. freedom 3 on http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
You told us, you can't modify the sources and ship modified binaries
= thunderbird and firefox are non-free, because of the trademarks
Mozilla apply.
= These packages should not be part of Fedora.
+1
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Thanks for providing evidence of how trademarks are being applied to
void the benefits of open source.
The obvious logical consequences of what you say would be
* either to remove the packages you are referring to from Fedora because
they are effectively
I wrote:
Those packages are also sometimes not compliant with Fedora policies such
as usage of system libraries because any patches to use a system library
need trademark approval.
Another one: Thunderbird STILL bundles its own Gecko instead of using the
system xulrunner, another blatant
I wrote:
Those packages are also sometimes not compliant with Fedora policies such
as usage of system libraries because any patches to use a system library
need trademark approval. This is also just unacceptable.
PPS: And another one: xulrunner uses a bundled libffi. Another blatant
Am Sonntag, den 25.04.2010, 09:17 +0200 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
ABRT bugs are usually filed by
lazy idiots who have hit a fix my software! button and expect everything
else to magically happen without them doing anything, so requests to
upstream bugs are usually met with total silence,
Laurent Rineau wrote:
QUESTIONS: What is the right way to get skyviewer in Rawhide rebuild
against the last release of libQGLViewer? How should I proceed in future
to synchronize rebuilds of libQGLViewer and packages using it?
If you're the maintainer, bump Release and rebuild. If you're not
Am Sonntag, den 25.04.2010, 09:23 +0200 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
Christoph Wickert wrote:
We have this nice ABRT tool now, so please let the bug reports our users
collect not be useless and forward them upstream cause that's where they
belong. We are not collecting these reports to let them
On 25/04/10 09:20, Christoph Wickert wrote:
--snipped--
And obviously a checkbox doesn't help ether to separate the 'lazy
idiots' from the active reporters. Q. E. D. ;)
Or perhaps the lazy maintainers?
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Christoph Wickert wrote:
I'm upstreaming reports from 'lazy idiots' too and some of them get
fixed. In fact the percentage of the ones that get fixed is not
different from the 'active' reporters cause usually the backtrace
contains all necessary data for the developer to fix the problem.
ABRT
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Laurent Rineau wrote:
QUESTIONS: What is the right way to get skyviewer in Rawhide rebuild
against the last release of libQGLViewer? How should I proceed in future
to synchronize rebuilds of libQGLViewer and packages
Christoph Wickert wrote:
I'm doing this for ~ 130 packages and it works for me.
Good for you. I have more important things to do than do triaging day and
night, sorry.
Of course it is a some work, but it's easier for 20 downstream maintainers
to deal with 10 reports each a week than for a
drago01 wrote:
Hi, I am the maintainer of libQGLViewer in Fedora. ...
Actually reading the mails before replying might help ;)
He's the maintainer of libQGLViewer. He didn't say whether or not he's the
maintainer of skyviewer, which is what matters here, see the context of the
statement.
On 24 April 2010 17:30, Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote:
Burned a fresh boot.iso from this morning to attempt a new F13 install.
Everything worked up to the point of the first gui screen, which is I am
guessing the welcome to Fedora install screen. No response from
mouse/keyboard (MS
I'll plan update ImageMagick now -
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=579458
ABI change follow.
And according it I have some questions. New minor version of IM made
around 1-2 times in week. What policy I should use to handle it? Have it
worth update it in rawhide each time when new
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On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 09:47:26 +0200,
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Those packages are also sometimes not compliant with Fedora policies such as
usage of system libraries because any patches to use a system library need
trademark approval. This is also just unacceptable.
I'm getting
500 Internal error
The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from
fulfilling the request.
Powered by CherryPy 2.3.0
while trying to submit new package updates in bodhi.
regards, tom lane
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:18:09 -0400,
Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
I'm getting
500 Internal error
The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from
fulfilling the request.
Powered by CherryPy
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:18:09AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
I'm getting
500 Internal error
The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from
fulfilling the request.
Powered by CherryPy 2.3.0
while trying to submit new package updates in bodhi.
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 09:47:26 +0200,
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Those packages are also sometimes not compliant with Fedora policies such as
usage of system libraries because any patches to use a system
With a Fedora release coming soon, it's also time for Fedora
Elections. Both the Fedora Project Board and the Fedora Engineering
Steering Committee (FESCo) will have open seats during this election
cycle.
Nominations for these seats open tomorrow, Saturday, April 24, 2010.
You can nominate
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On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 17:35:13 +0200,
drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
By shipping software using names known to users coming from other OSes?
While in general it would be confusing if everything was renamed, I think
the default web browser name is less of an issue since it is installed
by
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Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
I'm going to be sending one out in a bit. The storage system on db3
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Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes:
The issue is that the Mozilla trademark rules are preventing us from
packaging software using those trademarks in accordance with our rules.
I think it would be better for the trademarks to go, rather than granting
exceptions to the rules.
Wouldn't it be
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes:
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:03:28 -0400,
Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
Wouldn't it be sensible to approach the Mozilla folk about getting them
to relax their requirements so that sane packaging is possible? ISTM
that this must be a problem for other
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On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes:
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:03:28 -0400,
Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
Wouldn't it be sensible to approach the Mozilla folk about getting them
to relax their requirements so that sane
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Thomas Janssen
thom...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes:
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:03:28 -0400,
Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
Wouldn't it be sensible to
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 18:33:27 +0200,
Thomas Janssen thom...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Whoops, sorry for the PM Bruno and Kevin, i did just click on reply to
all. Forgot to check for a cc.
If I didn't want PM copies, I'd set mail-followup-to to not get them.
I sometimes find it useful to
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 10:08 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
I don't see how using Mozilla trademarks provides significant benefit
to Fedora. It seems to mostly benefit Mozilla. I don't see why we should
be breaking our rules to help them.
I think you are grossly misjudging the relative
lör 2010-04-24 klockan 10:37 +0200 skrev Christoph Höger:
But if ABRT could detect duplicate crashes
one could use this to display a workaround or even propose an update via
packagekit.
It could look in bodhi for packages which claim to fix the bug.
Would you like to test a proposed fix for
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 12:45 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 13:37:11 -0400,
Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote:
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 10:08 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
I don't see how using Mozilla trademarks provides significant benefit
to Fedora. It
On 04/26/2010 12:18 AM, Chris Tyler wrote:
Let's not be brash. If we want to ship TB with one small patch, it's a
simple matter of asking.
If it was so simple, why haven't we done it already? What about patches
to use system libraries?
Rahul
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2010/4/24 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de:
Hi all,
I was just wondering: How mature is ABRTs duplicate detection?
You might all know the MS search for a solution to this problem window
popping up after an application crashes. I've never seen it doing
something usefull, though. But
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 00:33 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 04/26/2010 12:18 AM, Chris Tyler wrote:
Let's not be brash. If we want to ship TB with one small patch, it's a
simple matter of asking.
If it was so simple, why haven't we done it already?
We did, with Firefox and Pango.
On 04/26/2010 01:41 AM, Chris Tyler wrote:
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 00:33 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 04/26/2010 12:18 AM, Chris Tyler wrote:
Let's not be brash. If we want to ship TB with one small patch, it's a
simple matter of asking.
If it was so simple, why haven't we
On 04/25/2010 01:37 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
I think you are grossly misjudging the relative visibility and
importance of the Firefox and Fedora brands... nobody knows what Fedora
is, while most computer users will have at least heard about Firefox.
Agreed a fortiori - in fact
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Isn't this a FESCO issue? Maybe it is time to reopen this issue?
Knowing my fellow FESCo members, I don't think I'll get a majority to agree
with me. :-(
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Bruno Wolff III wrote:
We could even try coordinating names with Debian to reduce confusion.
Yes, definitely. We should ask Debian about using the ice* names they're
using, and also share patches with them.
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Tom Lane wrote:
Wouldn't it be sensible to approach the Mozilla folk about getting them
to relax their requirements so that sane packaging is possible? ISTM
that this must be a problem for other distros too.
We have tried, Debian has tried, other distros have tried, Mozilla just said
no. The
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
They also care very little about the needs of distros and it took years for
some of the system libs to get used rather than bundled, for things like
system icons getting adopted etc. They still suck in the system
Am Sonntag, den 25.04.2010, 18:11 +0400 schrieb Pavel Alexeev (aka
Pahan-Hubbitus):
I'll plan update ImageMagick now -
[snipped]
Must I notify someone about coming update? How? Is it enough write
here?
I suggest to use
repoquery --whatrequires ImageMagick
and
repoquery --disablerepo=\*
On 04/25/2010 06:21 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Can someone explain why the fedora version has a bug which upstream
version does not ? Or am I missing something ?
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Chris Tyler wrote:
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 00:33 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
What about patches to use system libraries?
I'm sure they'd love to receive 'em!
Christoph Wickert wrote:
repoquery --disablerepo=\* --enablerepo=rawhide --whatrequires
ImageMagick
FYI, repoquery --repoid=rawhide --whatrequires ImageMagick does the trick
too.
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Mail Lists wrote:
Can someone explain why the fedora version has a bug which upstream
version does not ? Or am I missing something ?
The upstream version has that bug too, they just don't care about it enough
to release a fixed version in a timely manner.
Kevin Kofler
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On 04/25/2010 07:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
The upstream version has that bug too, they just don't care about it enough
to release a fixed version in a timely manner.
OH - FYI, I am running upstream and I don't have that problem ... can
disconnect the network all i want .. no crash.
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On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Christoph Wickert wrote:
repoquery --disablerepo=\* --enablerepo=rawhide --whatrequires
ImageMagick
FYI, repoquery --repoid=rawhide --whatrequires ImageMagick does the trick
too.
That does not detect packages that require
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Luming Yu luming...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:
On 04/24/2010 12:13 PM, Luming Yu wrote:
Hi there,
I came across a really weird problem with flash player on playing
these video on
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Luming Yu luming...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm,... tried ff 3.6.4, not working...
Just fyi, the flash video in question works fine for me in a fully
updated 64bit F13 beta using the 64bit flash using the tarball from
the adobe website
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Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-App-cpanminus/F-13
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv18913
Modified Files:
perl-App-cpanminus.spec
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Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-App-cpanminus/F-12
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv19742
Modified Files:
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Author: mmaslano
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-App-cpanminus/F-11
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv20914
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- Shakthi Kannan shakthim...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
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Anyone would like to take the above simple, small package for review?
I can swap review a similar CPAN
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I have actually enquired the same to
Thanks to nkin...@redhat.com for his reviews and comments. Following his
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1) If nsslapd-dn-validate-strict is set, check the incoming DNs and reject them
if they are not valid. Once approved, the DNs are normalized.
2) Function in the acl plugin
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