Hans de Goede wrote on 15.09.2010 08:31:
> On 09/14/2010 01:31 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
>> On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:40 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
>>> IIRC they require a firmware blob that has a license that we cannot
>>> distribute
>>> unlike say the Intel firmwares. I could be wrong though.
>
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--- Comment #9 from Richard W.M. Jones 2010-09-15 02:27:10
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(In reply to comment #7)
> When resize the window from right
Hi,
On 09/14/2010 01:31 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:40 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> IIRC they require a firmware blob that has a license that we cannot
>> distribute
>> unlike say the Intel firmwares. I could be wrong though.
>
> That's still true of the b43 firmware f
Excuse me if this is the wrong place to send this.
As my fedora ambassador duties, I tend to show other students the neat
things you can do with Fedora with my trusty USB drive I always keep on my
keychain. More often than not, I'm booting up Fedora into some laptop or
university desktop with copi
On 09/15/2010 05:50 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> 2010/9/15 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
>> Should gnome-shell (..) becoming the
>> default
> I hope that there will be the option to disable this default and
> return to classical gnome desktop
Yes. GNOME Panel will be available as a fallback for the
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 07:02:33PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:48:13 -0400
> Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
> > Hi FESCo members,
>
> ...snip...
>
> > Only 5 of the 9 FESCo members voted on this issue. If all 9 had voted,
> > even with the current 3 for / 2 against vote, systemd c
Máirín Duffy (du...@fedoraproject.org) said:
> Only 5 of the 9 FESCo members voted on this issue. If all 9 had voted,
> even with the current 3 for / 2 against vote, systemd could easily have
> enough votes for inclusion in F14. I have a couple of questions for you,
> FESCo, since I honestly don't
2010/9/14 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> On 09/15/2010 12:01 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:56 PM, James Laska wrote:
>>> Much like we introduced and communicated btrfs support in F-11, should
>>> we communicate systemd as a technology preview in Fedora 14?
>> I would agree wit
Ric Wheeler (rwhee...@redhat.com) said:
> Can we use the firmware that they have for the existing broadcom wireless
> driver?
'No' is what I've been told.
Bill
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On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 01:05:34AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> So, we closed all blocker bugs, we worked through the vast majority of
> other bugs. I dealt with almost all issues raised in Bill's list, only
> few small issues left. While there are some bugs open, we did our
> homework. I wa
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 21:26:41 -0400,
Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
> Hmm. Here's a couple ideas I could think of:
>
> - "If you don't place a vote by $DATE, your vote will be assumed to be
> $POSITION" can be scarily motivating.
>
> - Nag emails sent out by trac daily until you click on the email'
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 18:57 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> I hope you still read it. I have some advice for you, which of course
> you're welcome to take or leave:
>
> Please don't take everything personally.
I don't see how Lennart is taking anything personally here.
He is merely expressing his
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 19:02 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> I'm happy to look for ways to make the other fesco voices heard.
> Any ideas? I could try making the tickets have some more descriptive
> subject like "HEY VOTE ON THIS PLEASE BEFORE NEXT MEETING:" or
> something.
Hmm. Here's a couple ideas
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:48:13 -0400
Máirín Duffy wrote:
> Hi FESCo members,
...snip...
> Only 5 of the 9 FESCo members voted on this issue. If all 9 had voted,
> even with the current 3 for / 2 against vote, systemd could easily
> have enough votes for inclusion in F14. I have a couple of questi
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:05:34 +0200
Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 14.09.10 16:01, Kevin Fenzi (ke...@scrye.com) wrote:
>
> > * #461 F14 blessing for systemd (nirik, 20:12:29)
> > * LINK:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_initialization_basic and
> > http://fedoraproject.org/w
Hi FESCo members,
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 16:01 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> ===
> #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-09-14)
> ===
>
> Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 6:28 PM, James Antill wrote:
> Ubuntu recently got high praise from LWN for "Software Center" in 10.10
> betas. It doesn't use PackageKit at all AFAICS (no PackageKit packages
> are installed in my VM). It integrates tightly with apt (you know, like
> showing package histo
Am Dienstag, den 14.09.2010, 16:01 -0600 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
> Meeting summary
> ---
> * init process (nirik, 19:30:01)
> * pjones and ajax are traveling today, will not be able to attend.
> (nirik, 19:30:30)
So am I, sorry i didn't make note earlier. I will be back next Tuesd
2010/9/14 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> Should gnome-shell and every other feature fall under "technology
> preview" and stay like that for sometime as well before becoming the
> default or does this just applied to certain features maintained by
> certain people. . .
I'm making lemonade out of lem
2010/9/15 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> Should gnome-shell (..) becoming the
> default
I hope that there will be the option to disable this default and
return to classical gnome desktop.
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On 09/15/2010 12:01 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:56 PM, James Laska wrote:
>> Much like we introduced and communicated btrfs support in F-11, should
>> we communicate systemd as a technology preview in Fedora 14?
> I would agree with this. I certainly plan to run F14 with
Jon Masters said the following on 09/14/2010 03:17 PM Pacific Time:
> Folks,
>
> I was going to file an automated bug report, but it wants to file
> against "15", which doesn't exist, rather than Rawhide (which obviously
> does). I can email and ask for a version 15 to be added to Bugzilla,
> etc.
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:56 PM, James Laska wrote:
> Much like we introduced and communicated btrfs support in F-11, should
> we communicate systemd as a technology preview in Fedora 14?
I would agree with this. I certainly plan to run F14 with systemd in
anticipation of seeing it become the de
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 16:01 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> * #461 F14 blessing for systemd (nirik, 20:12:29)
> * LINK:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_initialization_basic
> and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_initialization_tools
> (nirik, 20:38:06)
> * ACTION: : wi
Hi,
2010/9/15 Lennart Poettering :
> On Tue, 14.09.10 16:01, Kevin Fenzi (ke...@scrye.com) wrote:
>
>> * #461 F14 blessing for systemd (nirik, 20:12:29)
>> * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_initialization_basic
>> and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_initialization_
On Tue, 14.09.10 16:01, Kevin Fenzi (ke...@scrye.com) wrote:
> * #461 F14 blessing for systemd (nirik, 20:12:29)
> * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_initialization_basic
> and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_initialization_tools
> (nirik, 20:38:06)
> * ACTION
On 09/14/2010 10:01 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>* ACTION: : will defer systemd to f15 release to give more time to fix
> small issues and docs and general polish. (nirik, 21:12:43)
What are you kidding me!
Gnome-shell better be sparkling out of aunt Tilly pony eyes before we
ship it..
JB
On 09/14/2010 10:13 AM, John W. Linville wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:31:44PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
>> On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:40 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
>>> IIRC they require a firmware blob that has a license that we cannot
>>> distribute
>>> unlike say the Intel firmwares.
A last minute blocker bug meeting was held in #fedora-bugzappers to
review the state of the open Fedora 14 Beta Blocker bugs. In order to
create the Fedora 14 Beta Release Candidate on Thursday (2010-09-16),
test, and release on time, this list MUST be empty by 2010-09-15
(tomorrow)!
https:/
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 22:39 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 13 September 2010 21:49, James Antill wrote:
> > So Seth spent half a day implementing a proof of concept:
> > http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/fedora-app-market-proof-of-concept/
>
> Translations?
They were part of the half d
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Folks,
I was going to file an automated bug report, but it wants to file
against "15", which doesn't exist, rather than Rawhide (which obviously
does). I can email and ask for a version 15 to be added to Bugzilla,
etc. but is that the solution, or should ABRT be always realizing to use
rawhide and
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-09-14)
===
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Meeting summary
-
Andrea Musuruane wrote:
> Why xulrunner has been built against this and pushed to stable?
Because Firefox/Thunderbird maintainers have the ability to
Push-To-Stable regardless of what the Fedora package policies say. Harrumph.
I have previously complained of this fact before when these packages
Hi all,
If I try to update F12 I get the following error:
# yum update
Plugin abilitati:presto, refresh-packagekit
Impostazione processo di aggiornamento
Risoluzione dipendenze
--> Esecuzione del controllo di transazione
---> Pacchetto firefox.x86_64 0:3.5.12-1.fc12 settato per essere aggiorna
>>
>> I read that HP was doing this but haven't verified.
>
> Ones who pre-load Linux could presumably calculate that shipping a
> better supported chip may cost them slightly more initially but save
> them maintenance headaches and hence eventually work out cheaper, so
> that would be Dell and HP.
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 01:01 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 09/15/2010 12:49 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:04:04PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> >> Which OEMs care enough about Linux support to use a more expensive part?
> > Seriously. I will go buy their stuff right n
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 16:23 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> 1). There is no default runlevel
> 2). I'm dropped into a confused shell on boot.
> 3). User accounts such as "root" are not recognized after "init 3"
> 4). "init 5" starts gdm and I can then login as normal.
>
> It might just be broken deps
Folks,
Just did an install of rawhide from today using mirrors.kernel.org and
F14-Alpha installer media for the Anaconda runtime.
1). There is no default runlevel
2). I'm dropped into a confused shell on boot.
3). User accounts such as "root" are not recognized after "init 3"
4). "init 5" starts
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On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 09/14/2010 08:33 PM, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the update. That's what I suspected as it seems to be the
>> norm for vendor code dumps.
>
> It is nevertheless a massive step forward. I heard OEM systems were
> favouri
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 09/15/2010 12:49 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:04:04PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
>>> Which OEMs care enough about Linux support to use a more expensive part?
>> Seriously. I will go buy their stuff right now.
On 09/15/2010 12:49 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:04:04PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> Which OEMs care enough about Linux support to use a more expensive part?
> Seriously. I will go buy their stuff right now.
I read that HP was doing this but haven't verified.
Rahul
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:04:04PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> Which OEMs care enough about Linux support to use a more expensive part?
Seriously. I will go buy their stuff right now.
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"Rahul Sundaram" wrote:
> On 09/14/2010 08:33 PM, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the update. That's what I suspected as it seems to be the
>> norm for vendor code dumps.
>
>It is nevertheless a massive step forward. I heard OEM systems were
>favouring other, even slightly more ex
On 09/14/2010 08:33 PM, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks for the update. That's what I suspected as it seems to be the
> norm for vendor code dumps.
It is nevertheless a massive step forward. I heard OEM systems were
favouring other, even slightly more expensive wireless cards because of
t
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On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:13 PM, John W. Linville wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:31:44PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
>> On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:40 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> > IIRC they require a firmware blob that has a license that we cannot
>> > distribute
>> > unlike say the Intel
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On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 08:21:33 -0500,
"Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)" wrote:
> I don't think it would have been too late for Fedora 14. It isn't a core
> package that needs to be available in a spin, afaik...
It wasn't when I was going to try to work on it, but I got swamped with
Spins SIG / livecd-to
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:43:03 +0200,
Rudolf Kastl wrote:
> heyyas,
>
> ogre3d, one of the most important 3d engines we have in fedora is
> already lagging behind over half a year in rawhide:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=576286
>
> would be nice to see it finally updated
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:31:44PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:40 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > IIRC they require a firmware blob that has a license that we cannot
> > distribute
> > unlike say the Intel firmwares. I could be wrong though.
>
> That's still true of
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Ralph Lange writes:
> Today I had to learn that the koji client, while being the only way to
> request a build, does not support proxies.
yes; like most python programs it does not have proper proxy support.
> In a university like environment with no open ports whatsoever, with
> an increasin
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I don't think it would have been too late for Fedora 14. It isn't a core
package that needs to be available in a spin, afaik...
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
> heyyas,
>
> ogre3d, one of the most important 3d engines we have in fedora is
> already lagging behind over half
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On 09/14/2010 12:18 AM, Mike McGrath wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Ralph Lange wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>> Today I had to learn that the koji client, while being the only way to
>> request a build, does not support proxies.
>>
>> In a university like environment with no open ports whatsoever, with a
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:40 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> IIRC they require a firmware blob that has a license that we cannot distribute
> unlike say the Intel firmwares. I could be wrong though.
That's still true of the b43 firmware for older (pre-802.11n) devices,
but the firmware to go with th
Christopher Aillon venit, vidit, dixit 14.09.2010 00:49:
> On 09/12/2010 08:39 PM, Elio Maldonado wrote:
>>On 09/12/2010 12:50 AM, Bojan Smojver wrote:
>>> How did this slip through the cracks? Isn't that a security related
>>> update?
>>>
>> No, it didn't slip trough the cracks. Some problems
heyyas,
ogre3d, one of the most important 3d engines we have in fedora is
already lagging behind over half a year in rawhide:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=576286
would be nice to see it finally updated atleast in rawhide so it can
go atleast in f15... which means we are only 1 yea
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
>
>
> "pbrobin...@gmail.com" wrote:
>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>Does anyone know if the new Broadcom drivers are in a state where they
>>would be in the Fedora 14 kernel? I've seen the release but i've not
>>seen any comment as to the state of them other
"pbrobin...@gmail.com" wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Does anyone know if the new Broadcom drivers are in a state where they
>would be in the Fedora 14 kernel? I've seen the release but i've not
>seen any comment as to the state of them other than they already
>support mac80211. These are quite a common de
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:16 AM, pbrobin...@gmail.com
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone know if the new Broadcom drivers are in a state where they
> would be in the Fedora 14 kernel? I've seen the release but i've not
> seen any comment as to the state of them other than they already
> support mac8
Hi All,
Does anyone know if the new Broadcom drivers are in a state where they
would be in the Fedora 14 kernel? I've seen the release but i've not
seen any comment as to the state of them other than they already
support mac80211. These are quite a common device and I think it would
be nice to see
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