On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 16:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 01:13 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Petr Lautrbach wrote:
> > > systemd will be default init system in Fedora 15 and scripts
> > > infrastructure will be adapted to it. There is a plan to leave upstart in
> > > Fedor
Andre Robatino said the following on 10/14/2010 03:32 PM Pacific Time:
> On 10/14/2010 06:25 PM, John Poelstra wrote:
>> When: Friday, 2010-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT/9 AM PDT)
>> Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net
>
> You mean 2010-10-15? I have the identical message to test-announce
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On 11/10/10 03:41 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>
> I installed and played with Ubuntu 10.10 over the weekend (in a VM),
> and I have to say that their installer is very smooth indeed. It's
> starting to make anaconda look distinctly clunky.
>
> Some
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:51:08 -0400
Brandon Lozza wrote:
> It doesn't help when a majority of voting FESCo members are biased
> Firefox users who seem to hate the idea of Iceweasel (based on what I
> gather from their meeting notes).
I use midori here. Every once in a great while I will run fire
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:42:21 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> > Iceweasel as it currently exists in debian currently bundles exactly
> > the same media libraries.
>
> CURRENTLY.
>
> The Debian Iceweasel maintainer has attached a patch to the upstream
> bug which makes it use
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:08:17 +1000
Jeffrey Fearn wrote:
...snip...
> > What sort of updates does it get?
>
> Large changes of every kind: bug fixes, new features, changes in
> behavior of existing features. Everything you'd expect of an
> application that is fairly young and has a demanding u
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244229
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=453598&action=diff
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=453598&action=edi
Description:
1. When acl contains targetattr keyword:
(targetattr [!]= "attribute_1 || attribute_2 ...|| attrib
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 23:45 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Firefox is NOT an
> essential package, the GNOME spin could just ship Epiphany (GNOME's default
> browser) instead, and other desktop spins ALREADY ship the respective
> desktop's default instead of Firefox!
Epiphany is still not serious
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 01:13 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Petr Lautrbach wrote:
> > systemd will be default init system in Fedora 15 and scripts
> > infrastructure will be adapted to it. There is a plan to leave upstart in
> > Fedora as non-official alternative.
>
> I don't think this is a good ide
Petr Lautrbach wrote:
> systemd will be default init system in Fedora 15 and scripts
> infrastructure will be adapted to it. There is a plan to leave upstart in
> Fedora as non-official alternative.
I don't think this is a good idea at all. We want users still on upstart to
get automatically migr
Matt McCutchen wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 13:11 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> I tend to disagree, as including both Iceweasel and Icedove in addition
>> to Firefox and Thunderbird gives users, admins and especially those that
>> maintain a remix the option to easily chose the solution tha
When: Friday, 2010-10-15 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT/9 AM PDT)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net
Open blocker bugs are here: http://bit.ly/aBqOcu
Details of the current unresolved blocker bugs are here:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-October/000707.html
Pleas
On 10/14/2010 06:25 PM, John Poelstra wrote:
> When: Friday, 2010-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT/9 AM PDT)
> Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net
You mean 2010-10-15? I have the identical message to test-announce
waiting for moderation - could you resubmit it with the correct date?
Thanks.
When: Friday, 2010-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT/9 AM PDT)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net
Open blocker bugs are here: http://bit.ly/aBqOcu
Details of the current unresolved blocker bugs are here:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-October/000707.html
Pleas
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Hi,
Just an update...
I've looked and the x86 as well as x86_64 builds are failing on koji.
Something looks wrong in the rawhide koji buildsys...
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On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 17:13 +0200, Petr Lautrbach wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> systemd will be default init system in Fedora 15 and scripts infrastructure
>> will be adapted to it.
>> There is a plan to leave upstart in Fedora as non-official alternative.
>
Hi there,
as soon as grfcodec-1.0.1-0.1.r772 is in stable for all branches I will
retire nforenum. nforenum has recently been included in the grfcodec
codebase, so there's no need to keep nforenum as a seperate package.
This will probably affect nobody directly (unless you develop graphics
for
commit 84d479fc5afbb139371d8fb919d38b8c8b98ec25
Author: Emmanuel Seyman
Date: Thu Oct 14 22:47:15 2010 +0200
Update to 0.12
.gitignore |1 +
perl-WebService-Google-Language.spec |7 +--
sources |2 +-
3 files changed,
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 13:11 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> I tend to disagree, as including both Iceweasel and Icedove in addition
> to Firefox and Thunderbird gives users, admins and especially those that
> maintain a remix the option to easily chose the solution that suites
> their needs best.
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for
perl-WebService-Google-Language:
9774dffedf830a36c52e27cd8e2ad6d9 WebService-Google-Language-0.12.tar.gz
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Summary: perl-Devel-REPL's re.pl is broken
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=643174
Summary: perl-Devel-REPL's re.pl is broken
Product: Fedora
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:36:53AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 17:13 +0200, Petr Lautrbach wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > systemd will be default init system in Fedora 15 and scripts infrastructure
> > will be adapted to it.
> > There is a plan to leave upstart in Fedora as n
Hi,
> > It looks like glibc is missing TLS support. Do I submit a BZ against
> > glibc?
>
> That is simply not the case and it's hard to see how you came to such
> a conclusion.
Based on what I'm seeing from the error and getting from searching...
I've looked a bit deeper and there is nothing u
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 10:47 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
> Hello Fedora 14 Blocker Bug Owners (all copied on this message),
>
> The list of bugs below are currently blocking the final release of
> Fedora 14. Updates fixing these bugs MUST be ready on Monday, 2010-10-18
> (Final Change Deadline) o
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 17:13 +0200, Petr Lautrbach wrote:
> Hello,
>
> systemd will be default init system in Fedora 15 and scripts infrastructure
> will be adapted to it.
> There is a plan to leave upstart in Fedora as non-official alternative.
Why?
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On 10/14/2010 01:47 PM, John Poelstra wrote:
> 641474 :: ASSIGNED :: lvm2 :: a...@redhat.com :: libdm does not present
> method to assign UUID after map creation ::
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=641474
>* next steps ...
> 1) Maintainer needs to complete patch
> 2) Buil
Hello Fedora 14 Blocker Bug Owners (all copied on this message),
The list of bugs below are currently blocking the final release of
Fedora 14. Updates fixing these bugs MUST be ready on Monday, 2010-10-18
(Final Change Deadline) or Release Engineering will be unable to create
the Final Release
On 10/14/2010 07:05 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 10/12/2010 03:56 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
>> On 10/12/2010 02:52 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>> On 10/12/2010 02:16 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 10/12/2010 10:28 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> Striving fo
On 10/11/2010 12:31 AM, Philip Prindeville wrote:
>On 10/10/10 12:25 PM, Philip Prindeville wrote:
>> On 10/9/10 2:54 PM, fkoo...@tuxed.net wrote:
>>> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Philip Prindeville
>>> wrote:
Any suggestions?
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?quicks
On 10/14/2010 06:32 PM, Lars Seipel wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 October 2010 15:56:02 Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
>> Now we are really talking semantics. The point is that users should not be
>> confronted with choices they don't really need to make or they don't
>> understand.
>
> I disagree. How shou
On 10/12/2010 03:56 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
> On 10/12/2010 02:52 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> On 10/12/2010 02:16 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
>>> On 10/12/2010 10:28 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
Hi,
> Striving for usability and pleasantness for the untechnical users
Compose started at Thu Oct 14 14:25:12 UTC 2010
Broken deps for x86_64
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antlr3-python-3.1.2-7.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6
gnome-pilot-conduits-2.0.17-4.fc13.x86_64 requires
libgpilotdconduit.so.2()(64bit)
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 15:56:02 Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
> Now we are really talking semantics. The point is that users should not be
> confronted with choices they don't really need to make or they don't
> understand.
I disagree. How should a user know about some nice feature if its whole
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:38:29 -0400,
Brandon Lozza wrote:
>
> I agree and this is exactly how the argument is going. People in FESCo
> have made it clear via their meeting notes that the Firefox branding
> is more important than following package guidelines.
I'd encourage people who are int
Hello,
systemd will be default init system in Fedora 15 and scripts infrastructure
will be adapted to it.
There is a plan to leave upstart in Fedora as non-official alternative.
For now (since upstart-0.6.5-12.fc15):
- upstart-sysvinit is no longer created
- upstart requires sysvinit-userspace
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:51:08AM -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote:
> It doesn't help when a majority of voting FESCo members are biased
> Firefox users who seem to hate the idea of Iceweasel (based on what I
> gather from their meeting notes). There seem to be some preconceptions
> about what happens
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 01:39 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Adam Williamson wrote:
>> > Er, really? I don't see where I offered any insult or un-excellent-ness.
>> > I just meant it as a vaguely humorous way of wondering why Kevin was
>> > repl
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> There was also talk about whether or not it would be allowed for there
>> to be a separate Iceweasel package in Fedora. This might be done to
>> test the feasibility of maintaining it. There were mixed feelings about
On 10/13/2010 05:51 PM, Ralf Ertzinger wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:26:18 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote
>
>> As you pointed out, different drives, can have more-or-less identical
>> partition size, with different CHS in the partition table.
>
> I my experience the hard disk vendors have bee
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Nonsense.
> * Whenever somebody complains about the Firefox maintainers rejecting non-
> upstream patches, they give the trademarks as the reason.
> * Whenever somebody complains about the branding, they claim it doesn't
> matter because we ar
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 01:39 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Er, really? I don't see where I offered any insult or un-excellent-ness.
> > I just meant it as a vaguely humorous way of wondering why Kevin was
> > replying to an email I sent over a week ago in a discussion which
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James Laska changed:
What|Removed |Added
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On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:18:07AM +0200, Petr Sabata wrote:
> > It can't be packaged in the sense of shipping binaries. But if a
> > wrapper script is provided that automatically recompiles dwm for the
> > individual user whenever necessary, the software could be packaged in
> > the sense that it
Compose started at Thu Oct 14 08:15:49 UTC 2010
Broken deps for x86_64
--
clutter-gst-devel-1.2.0-1.fc15.i686 requires pkgconfig(clutter-1.0) <
0:1.3.0
clutter-gst-devel-1.2.0-1.fc15.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-1.0) <
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 21:28:24 Evan Dandrea wrote:
> You absolutely can automate it, using the same preseeding mechanism found
> in debian-installer.
Thanks for the info. Didn't know Debian preseeding can be used with the Ubuntu
live installer as well. That boosts usability to another leve
Jiri Popelka writes:
> I'm not sure. We are trying to eventually get net-tools out of the
> default install.
> Most of the scripts (initscripts/networking) has been using iproute commands
> now and we're trying to navigate people to switch to ip as well.
Maybe it would be worth attacking vconfi
Kevin Kofler wrote on 14.10.2010 00:36:
> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> * Why haven't those that want iceweasel and icedove in Fedora not
>> simply invested some time and got them integrated into the repository?(ยน)
> Because having both Iceweasel and Firefox in the repository, in addition to
> bein
On 10/14/2010 01:13 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On 10/13/2010 02:04 AM, Petr Sabata wrote:
>> The problem here: dwm is configured solely in C and has to be recompiled
>> every time a user wants to change their settings (appearance, behavior,
>> shortcuts, etc).
>
> Am i the only one that finds it h
On 10/13/2010 10:04 AM, Petr Sabata wrote:
> I've been thinking about packaging dwm [1] since we already ship dmenu and
> dzen2. I wonder if anybody would be interested in this fine window manager
> (except for me).
>
> The problem here: dwm is configured solely in C and has to be recompiled
> ev
Matt McCutchen wrote:
> It can't be packaged in the sense of shipping binaries. But if a
> wrapper script is provided that automatically recompiles dwm for the
> individual user whenever necessary, the software could be packaged in
> the sense that it could be installed and updated with yum and wo
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On 14/10/10 09:25, Maxim Burgerhout wrote:
> Well there was http://thincrust.net, but that seems to be dead-ish:
> last commit in git master dates back to September '09. Thincrust aimed
> to build commandline tools to create appliances. Basically you c
Well there was http://thincrust.net, but that seems to be dead-ish:
last commit in git master dates back to September '09. Thincrust aimed
to build commandline tools to create appliances. Basically you could
see it as susestudio.com in a commandline fashion. Thincrust's
appliance-tools package is s
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 09:34:22PM -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 01:48 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Petr Sabata wrote:
> > > I've been thinking about packaging dwm [1] since we already ship dmenu and
> > > dzen2. I wonder if anybody would be interested in this fine window m
Kevin Kofler writes:
> POSIXLY_CORRECT has a lot of other effects which will break tons of
> packages, e.g. it disables all bash extensions!
Not all of them, only those that conflict with POSIX (which still leaves
a lot room for extensions).
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On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Brandon Lozza wrote:
>> I think an exception should be made for Chromium too.
>
> No. Just no.
>
> The exceptions for Firefox need to stop NOW, i.e. no new ones should be
> granted and the ones that have already been granted repealed/discontin
> It looks like glibc is missing TLS support. Do I submit a BZ against
> glibc?
That is simply not the case and it's hard to see how you came to such
a conclusion.
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Hi,
> Hmm. I did a build with:
> mock -r fedora-rawhide-x86_64 mono-2.8-1.1.fc15.src.rpm
> on an f13/x86-64 host and it finished without complaint.
Removed the m32 hacks and submitted for a rebuild. Still dies in the
same place :(
> Perhaps something is indeed wonky in koji, or maybe some
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