Re: Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-08 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/11/09 07:39 (GMT+0100) David Tardon composed: > Btw, maybe you should look at the proverb in your signature and try to > apply it to yourself. Because in this thread you have neither shown > understanding nor used pleasant words. The words I used are not inherently unpleasant, only unplea

Re: Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-08 Thread David Tardon
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 09:30:54PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2010/11/08 18:06 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed: > > > I don't see why this is a huge deal. There's a bug in Bugzilla that it > > doesn't merge CC lists when you dupe bugs, yeah. Aside from that? What's > > the huge problem wit

Re: Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-08 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello, On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 21:30 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Like I said, let the people who actually fix bugs both find them and > file > them. You need to rethink this. Maintainers(ones who actually fix the bugs) already have enough work on their hands. Adding "look, manage multiple copies

Re: Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 21:30 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2010/11/08 18:06 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed: > > > I don't see why this is a huge deal. There's a bug in Bugzilla that it > > doesn't merge CC lists when you dupe bugs, yeah. Aside from that? What's > > the huge problem with dupin

Re: Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-08 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/11/08 18:06 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed: > I don't see why this is a huge deal. There's a bug in Bugzilla that it > doesn't merge CC lists when you dupe bugs, yeah. Aside from that? What's > the huge problem with duping an older bug to a newer one? Like I said, let the people who

Re: Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 19:51 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > If the policy can't be clear that _reasonable_ justification is prerequisite > to duping an older bug to a newer, and some semblance of enforcement applied, > then I don't need to file any more bugs, or test any further. I don't see why >

Re: Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-08 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/11/08 18:01 (GMT-0500) Adam Williamson composed: > The duping was done by Lubomir, as he was providing a patch to fix the > problem (which is, lest we forget, what we all wanted in the first > place). He explained his reasoning right in the comment. I don't know > why you think it's a grea

Re: Orphaning a few packages

2010-11-08 Thread Rafael Azenha Aquini
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 11:16:18AM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > bootchart Adam, I took this package ownership. best regards -- Rafael Aquini -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

[perl-Net-Patricia] Maintenance version update.

2010-11-08 Thread Philip Prindeville
commit 2075f03bc12a7e1a7520f99ceba32741746eff77 Author: Philip Prindeville Date: Mon Nov 8 16:20:27 2010 -0700 Maintenance version update. .gitignore |1 + perl-Net-Patricia.spec | 10 +++--- sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 4 delet

Re: [Review swap] Reviewer needed for emacs-auto-complete

2010-11-08 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 22:03:25 +0530, Arun SAG wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Michel Alexandre Salim < > sali...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > >> >> >Would anyone want to swap one of their review tickets for this? >> >> > I would like to review the package. Here is mine > https:

Re: rawhide report: 20101108 changes

2010-11-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 22:21 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 20:19:17 +, Paul wrote: > > > > deja-dup-15.3-2.fc14.x86_64 requires libnotify.so.1() > > > > Lots seem broken with libnotify.so.1 - any chance of pushing rebuilds? > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail

Re: Multilib issue with hard-coded paths in mash script

2010-11-08 Thread Christian Krause
Hi, On 11/08/2010 11:15 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> 1. Specifically with respect to the problem with gdk-pixbuf: Should the >> gdk-pixbuf loaders be multilib or not? If yes, the mash script must be >> adjusted. > > The loaders are shared objects, and the 64-bit modules won't help you on > 32-b

Re: Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 19:00 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623742 was duped to newer bug > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624297 > > The older: > > 1-began life with equivalent summary: "system-config-display fails " > > 2-contains same comm

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 16:41 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Really, I have no > problem using my keyboard, Given your location and native language, I suspect your keyboard layout is en_US, in which case this isn't much of a surprise - it's one of the simplest cases (it requires one of the fewe

File Net-Patricia-1.18_80.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by philipp

2010-11-08 Thread Philip Prindeville
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Net-Patricia: c88ad7b5da63e34b58c07bece1089ac8 Net-Patricia-1.18_80.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/

Re: Multilib issue with hard-coded paths in mash script

2010-11-08 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 00:43 +0100, Christian Krause wrote: > Hi, > The whole issue raises now some questions: > > 1. Specifically with respect to the problem with gdk-pixbuf: Should the > gdk-pixbuf loaders be multilib or not? If yes, the mash script must be > adjusted. > > 2. Should the mash sc

Re: rawhide report: 20101108 changes

2010-11-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 20:19:17 +, Paul wrote: > > deja-dup-15.3-2.fc14.x86_64 requires libnotify.so.1() > > Lots seem broken with libnotify.so.1 - any chance of pushing rebuilds? http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-November/144914.html -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fed

Re: rawhide report: 20101108 changes

2010-11-08 Thread Paul F. Johnson
Hi, > db4o-7.4-2.fc13.x86_64 requires mono(Mono.GetOptions) = 0:2.0.0.0 Problem here is that db4o now uses a newer version of mono-cecil and mono-cecil-flowanalysis. The current fedora version flowanalysis is something like 0.6 whereas head it 0.9. However, it's not as simple as building 0

Re: Orphaning a few packages

2010-11-08 Thread Jaroslav Skarvada
> powertop I took powertop, thanks Jaroslav -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-08 Thread Till Maas
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 04:22:29PM +0200, Alexander Kurtakov wrote: > We can argue about this a lot (e.e. submitter can reopen bug whenever he > finds > the time to verify the bug). The problem is, there is no proper way to track whether a bug has been verified, because the result may also b

Re: Orphaning yakuake

2010-11-08 Thread Jochen Schmitt
Am 08.11.10 18:22, schrieb Johan Cwiklinski: > Hello, > > I've just orphaned yakuake on all branches ; I do not longer use it. I will take it. Best Regards: Jochen Schmitt -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: What are differences between real and rpmbuild's environment?

2010-11-08 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 03:49:28PM +0100, Michal Hlavinka wrote: > I'm trying to find out what are differences between environment for > local rpm build and usual user's environment. I've added regression > tests to %check section of ksh spec file. These tests never fails > when executed in user's

Orphaning yakuake

2010-11-08 Thread Johan Cwiklinski
Hello, I've just orphaned yakuake on all branches ; I do not longer use it. Regards, Johan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-08 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 11:58 +0300, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523634 Added comments with the *latest* example. The bug last had a reply from the maintainer in 2009. Somehow, he called it a "feature request" rather than a bug[1]. *shrug* [1] https://bug

Re: Orphaning a few packages

2010-11-08 Thread Jean-Francois Saucier
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: > bing > wdfs Hi Adam, I just took ownership of bing and wdfs. Thanks! -- Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) GPG key : 0xA9E6E953 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [Review swap] Reviewer needed for emacs-auto-complete

2010-11-08 Thread Arun SAG
Hi, On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Michel Alexandre Salim < sali...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > >Would anyone want to swap one of their review tickets for this? > > I would like to review the package. Here is mine https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632858 -- Arun S.A.G http://zer0c

Orphaning a few packages

2010-11-08 Thread Adam Jackson
I've got some stuff that I can't really give proper attention to, and I'd rather not even get the bugmail. I just packaged them because I wanted to consume them, not because I wanted to own them. So, free to a good home: bing bootchart powertop wdfs Already orphaned in pkgdb for rawhide, first

[Review swap] Reviewer needed for emacs-auto-complete

2010-11-08 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Dear fellow packagers, I just created a package for auto-complete, an intelligent auto- completion extension for Emacs. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=650992 See screenshots on the project page: http://cx4a.org/software/auto-complete/ Would anyone want to swap one of their review

Re: What are differences between real and rpmbuild's environment?

2010-11-08 Thread Rex Dieter
Michal Hlavinka wrote: > I'm trying to find out what are differences between environment for local > rpm build and usual user's environment. You mean the difference between rpmbuild and... a manual "./configure; make"? For starters, see rpm's output from rpm --eval "%{configure}" which sets v

What are differences between real and rpmbuild's environment?

2010-11-08 Thread Michal Hlavinka
Hi, I'm trying to find out what are differences between environment for local rpm build and usual user's environment. I've added regression tests to %check section of ksh spec file. These tests never fails when executed in user's environment, but some of them always fail when executed as part o

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/08/2010 01:34 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > On 11/06/2010 02:53 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 11/05/2010 09:46 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >>> On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 17:56:51 +0100, Ralf wrote: >>> ABRT >>> It doesn't tell the user that core dumps without reproducer are worthless

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-08 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Ok there are several different "cold boot attacks". The one  I think > you are talking about is the removing memory from the system and > reading its contents with a special board. The kernel does not [snip] Not even with a special boa

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-08 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/06/2010 02:53 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 11/05/2010 09:46 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 17:56:51 +0100, Ralf wrote: >> >>> ABRT >> >>> It doesn't tell the user that core dumps without reproducer are >>> worthless in most cases but blindly sends out reports >> >> Parts

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-08 Thread Benjamín Valero Espinosa
2010/11/6 Till Maas > On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 12:23:00PM +0200, Alexander Kurtakov wrote: > > > Why does everyone want to put more and more burden on maintainers and > arguing > > about small things that users should do? > > How can you expect a maintainer to fix/respond to hundreds of bugs and >

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-08 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2010-11-08, Petr Pisar wrote: > One of the problem is where to store the key. I found a thesis > > right now which describes working implementation using SSE registers as > a permanent (untill power cycle) stor

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-08 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2010-11-06, Vaclav Mocek wrote: > > I work like an Embedded SW/HW Developer and my experience is that data > could remain in the dynamic memory for quite long time, even in the room > temperature. I have used it successfully for debugging, when a booting > routine after the cold reset copies

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-08 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2010-11-06, Vaclav Mocek wrote: > > It would be usefull to overwrite some parts of memory (keys etc.), > before the computer is switched off. So, my question is: Is there > already implemented and used some kind of protection? > There was a patch for Linux to scramble memory just before halt.

rawhide report: 20101108 changes

2010-11-08 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Nov 8 08:15:29 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- abrt-gui-1.1.13-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libnotify.so.1()(64bit) apcupsd-3.14.8-3.fc15.x86_64 requires libnetsnmp.so.20()(64bit) balsa-2.4.7-2.fc1

Re: Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-08 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2010/11/8 Peter Lemenkov : > 2010/11/8 Felix Miata : >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623742 was duped to newer bug >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624297 >> >> The older: > > [sorry, skipped] > >> 4-has 48 CCs > > This is a known issue in  (at least in RedHat's) bugzil

Re: Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-08 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2010/11/8 Felix Miata : > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623742 was duped to newer bug > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624297 > > The older: [sorry, skipped] > 4-has 48 CCs This is a known issue in (at least in RedHat's) bugzilla. If you close bug "A" as duplicate of

Re: Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:07:08 -0500, Digimer wrote: > Try popping by IRC and asking why a particular bug hasn't been acted on. Does that scale? > If it's a lack of time, then there you go. I wouldn't expect somebody to lurk on IRC then and visit a ticket just because someone else makes some nois