Re: [fedora-arm] Does anyone care about LSB on arm?

2011-06-03 Thread Jon Masters
On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 12:25 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > sooo... although the situation *right now* is that nobody in the > commercial world is the slightest bit interested in LSB because they > all do "custom builds" of complete software stacks, it could be said > that *if* the f

Re: Gnome Shell Extension manager/framework planned?

2011-06-03 Thread Michael Wiktowy
On 6/3/11, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > The existence and the proliferation of extensions indicates that a lot of > people simply are not happy with what gnome shell does out of the box, and > that's why they use the extensions. > > If it were not so, then, by definition, nobody would care about these

Re: Installing bash-completion by default in F-16

2011-06-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
Reindl Harald wrote: > if there is a good reason - OK > but not if the question is to change a default-setup in a way > existing and used proprietary will have problems which are not > existing without an OPTIONAL change Well, installing bash-completion by default is the best way to ensure the in

Re: Bringing down Java packages in size

2011-06-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 10:46:37 +1000, Chris Jones wrote: > It seems to me that as a general observation, package sizes are either > stable or coming down in size. And even the total size of the Fedora > Live CD has dropped significantly. The last item is due to using XZ compression with s

Bringing down Java packages in size

2011-06-03 Thread Chris Jones
It seems to me that as a general observation, package sizes are either stable or coming down in size. And even the total size of the Fedora Live CD has dropped significantly. My example: I installed Fedora 15 a couple of days ago. After fully updating, I couldn't help but notice the amount o

Re: Gnome Shell Extension manager/framework planned?

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Louis Lagendijk writes: On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 22:44 +0200, Ralf Ertzinger wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:19:12 +0200, Louis Lagendijk wrote > > > one of the extensions to add the shutdown option, but believe Gnome3 > > needs more configurability so we can avoid all these "corrections" a

Orphaning three packages

2011-06-03 Thread Fabian Affolter
Hi all, I orphaned the following packages below: - onboard https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/onboard - gnubiff https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/gnubiff - gpx-viewer https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/gpx-viewer I have stopped using those package

Re: Gnome Shell Extension manager/framework planned?

2011-06-03 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 22:44 +0200, Ralf Ertzinger wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:19:12 +0200, Louis Lagendijk wrote > > > one of the extensions to add the shutdown option, but believe Gnome3 > > needs more configurability so we can avoid all these "corrections" as > > extensions. > > I

Re: Installing bash-completion by default in F-16

2011-06-03 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 06:29:25PM +0200, drago01 wrote: >> > Yeah. Bash-completion could stand to be broken up into a few sub-packages. >> To solve what kind of problem exactly? > > Not necessarily sub-rpms. To solve the problem I was replyi

Re: hamster applet in gnome-shell

2011-06-03 Thread Clint Savage
Hi Léon, I'm also an avid user of Hamster Applet and have been using it successfully in Gnome Shell. I suggest you launch it using 'Time Tracker' and then look at the bottom right bar. If you have it setup to let you know an activity is currently running, it will remind you in the bottom middle.

Re: Gnome Shell Extension manager/framework planned?

2011-06-03 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi. On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:19:12 +0200, Louis Lagendijk wrote > one of the extensions to add the shutdown option, but believe Gnome3 > needs more configurability so we can avoid all these "corrections" as > extensions. I think you missed what Gnome is all about. -- devel mailing list devel@list

Re: Perl 5.14

2011-06-03 Thread Iain Arnell
2011/6/1 Marcela Mašláňová : > On 06/01/2011 03:28 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: >> >> Now that Fedora 15 is out, I was hoping we would work perl 5.14 in >> rawhide quickly enough as to be able to fix all the resulting bugs in >> time for Fedora 16 release. >> >> Is anything planned? >> >> Emmanuel >

Re: Gnome Shell Extension manager/framework planned?

2011-06-03 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 12:28 -0300, Michael Wiktowy wrote: > Hello, > > I am seeing a metric ton of extensions showing up for Gnome shell that > are enhancing the shell in positive ways. Some are packaged singly; > some are grouped together in bundles; some are configured by editing > .js files dir

Re: Installing bash-completion by default in F-16

2011-06-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 06:29:25PM +0200, drago01 wrote: > > Yeah. Bash-completion could stand to be broken up into a few sub-packages. > To solve what kind of problem exactly? Not necessarily sub-rpms. To solve the problem I was replying to: some operations are frustratingly slow, and maybe shoul

Prelink + packaging proprietary software

2011-06-03 Thread Jussi Lehtola
Hi, it seems that rpmbuild runs prelink nowadays, since in Fedora 15 I have run into a problem that I haven't seen before when packaging proprietary 3rd party software. The error is prelink: (file name here) at least one of file's dependencies has changed since prelinking The cause of the prob

Re: Gnome Shell Extension manager/framework planned?

2011-06-03 Thread tim.laurid...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Michael Wiktowy wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > >> If this is under way, could extension makers be pointed towards it to > >> future-proof their extensions. > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by this. > > Searching around now, it lo

Re: Gnome Shell Extension manager/framework planned?

2011-06-03 Thread Michael Wiktowy
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Colin Walters wrote: >> If this is under way, could extension makers be pointed towards it to >> future-proof their extensions. > > I'm not sure what you mean by this. Searching around now, it looks like Looking Glass (alt+f2 "lg") already registers the extensions

[perl-Mojolicious] Latest from upstream - 1.41

2011-06-03 Thread Yanko Kaneti
commit 74af7c6e76350c1dfec63586cd9041949a7df7b5 Author: Yanko Kaneti Date: Fri Jun 3 19:50:08 2011 +0300 Latest from upstream - 1.41 .gitignore|1 + perl-Mojolicious.spec |5 - sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- di

File Mojolicious-1.41.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by yaneti

2011-06-03 Thread Yanko Kaneti
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Mojolicious: 6c4c7b8197d2487ba59a292fda95566a Mojolicious-1.41.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

Re: Installing bash-completion by default in F-16

2011-06-03 Thread Peter Gordon
On 06/03/2011 09:22 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 03.06.2011 18:06, schrieb Peter Gordon: >> Perhaps that is true; but what I believe Kevin is trying to convey is >> that we (the Fedora community) should not and cannot stifle our progress >> for the sake of some 3rd-party proprietary stuff. > > a

[Bug 710290] ocaml-findlib should require ocaml

2011-06-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=710290 Orion Poplawski changed: What|Removed |Added ---

Re: Installing bash-completion by default in F-16

2011-06-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.06.2011 18:06, schrieb Peter Gordon: > On 06/03/2011 08:49 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 03.06.2011 17:41, schrieb Kevin Kofler: >>> David Howells wrote: ... and then you install acroread and things go horribly wrong due to their attempt to work around bash completion of filename

hamster applet in gnome-shell

2011-06-03 Thread Léon Keijser
Hi, First of all, let me apologize if this is the incorrect place to ask. I've asked on IRC and got little or no response that actually helped me. In gnome 2 there was an amazing tool called hamster-applet. Now, since gnome 3 doesn't support applets anymore, i notice i'm missing functionality. Su

Re: Installing bash-completion by default in F-16

2011-06-03 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 17:41 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > David Howells wrote: > > ... and then you install acroread and things go horribly wrong due to > > their attempt to work around bash completion of filenames with spaces [BZ > > 702329]. > > We do not support third-party proprietary software.

Re: Installing bash-completion by default in F-16

2011-06-03 Thread Peter Gordon
On 06/03/2011 08:49 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 03.06.2011 17:41, schrieb Kevin Kofler: >> David Howells wrote: >>> ... and then you install acroread and things go horribly wrong due to >>> their attempt to work around bash completion of filenames with spaces [BZ >>> 702329]. >> >> We do not supp

Re: Installing bash-completion by default in F-16

2011-06-03 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 05:41:33PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > David Howells wrote: > > ... and then you install acroread and things go horribly wrong due to > > their attempt to work around bash completion of filenames with spaces [BZ > > 702329]. > > We do not support third-party proprietary so

Re: Installing bash-completion by default in F-16

2011-06-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.06.2011 17:41, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > David Howells wrote: >> ... and then you install acroread and things go horribly wrong due to >> their attempt to work around bash completion of filenames with spaces [BZ >> 702329]. > > We do not support third-party proprietary software. this is a b

Re: Installing bash-completion by default in F-16

2011-06-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
David Howells wrote: > ... and then you install acroread and things go horribly wrong due to > their attempt to work around bash completion of filenames with spaces [BZ > 702329]. We do not support third-party proprietary software. What's wrong with Okular or Evince? Kevin Kofler -- de

Re: Gnome Shell Extension manager/framework planned?

2011-06-03 Thread Colin Walters
Hi, On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Michael Wiktowy wrote: > > Is there some sort of extension management planned that would handle > the separate enabling/disabling/configuration of individual extensions > via the grand unified Settings menu? In 3.2 we will support whitelisting in addition to

Gnome Shell Extension manager/framework planned?

2011-06-03 Thread Michael Wiktowy
Hello, I am seeing a metric ton of extensions showing up for Gnome shell that are enhancing the shell in positive ways. Some are packaged singly; some are grouped together in bundles; some are configured by editing .js files directly. I am hesitant to install any of them because of the manual, bol

Re: Installing bash-completion by default in F-16

2011-06-03 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
Excerpts from Ville Skyttä's message of Wed Jun 01 22:54:05 +0200 2011: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=709647 > > I'd like to have bash-completion included in F-16's default install. In > my opinion it's in a good enough shape for that already now, and with my > upstream hat on I ex

Re: patch only if dependent version < x? (rpm spec)

2011-06-03 Thread Neal Becker
Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > On 06/03/2011 05:19 AM, Neal Becker wrote: >> So it is ultimately conditioned on fedora version, not foo-devel version. > > Just curious, why don't you require the version that doesn't require the > patch? > In the future, let's say the patch will be required. This

Re: patch only if dependent version < x? (rpm spec)

2011-06-03 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 06/03/2011 05:19 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > So it is ultimately conditioned on fedora version, not foo-devel version. Just curious, why don't you require the version that doesn't require the patch? -- Nathanael d. Noblet t 403.875.4613 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: headsup: rawhide 3.0 kernel needs symlink

2011-06-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 09:22:48 -0400, Kyle McMartin wrote: > > Yeah, should be fixed in the next build, koji being out of commission > didn't help get a timely fix pushed. This build also fixes an issue I had rebuilding dahdi-linux where the module names were expected to have another .0 in t

Re: package installation statistics

2011-06-03 Thread Andrea Musuruane
2011/6/3 Björn Persson : > There's no reason why Debian's Popcon couldn't be ported to Fedora, but Popcon > is something that users enable voluntarily (and it must be, because if it were > on by default it would be spyware), so it counts only those users who want to > be counted which may skew the

rawhide report: 20110603 changes

2011-06-03 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Jun 3 08:15:21 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 389-admin-1.1.16-1.fc16.i686 requires libadmsslutil.so.1 389-admin-1.1.16-1.fc16.i686 requires libadminutil.so.1 389-admin-1.1.16-1.fc16.x86_64

[perl-Bio-SamTools/f14] (2 commits) ...Add new genomeCoverageBed.pl script

2011-06-03 Thread verdurin
Summary of changes: 4012dfa... New upstream release 1.28 (*) a8d2e71... Add new genomeCoverageBed.pl script (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de

Re: tomboy orphaned

2011-06-03 Thread Michael Wiktowy
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Aurimas Černius wrote: > Gnote gives status icon 2 seconds to appear and shows Search All Notes > window as main, if that fails. If you somehow delay the gnote start > (wrap to some script for example) until desktop components like tray are > available, it should st

[perl-Bio-SamTools/el6] (2 commits) ...Add new genomeCoverageBed.pl script

2011-06-03 Thread verdurin
Summary of changes: 4012dfa... New upstream release 1.28 (*) a8d2e71... Add new genomeCoverageBed.pl script (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de

Re: tomboy orphaned

2011-06-03 Thread Michael Wiktowy
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > When set to auto start on a session launch,  users expect it to sit on the > tray (without any wrappers needed) and not show the search all notes > window. That would be exactly what I want. I would even be happy with a command line option t

Re: package installation statistics

2011-06-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.06.2011 15:15, schrieb Björn Persson: > Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 03.06.2011 10:19, schrieb Ivana Hutarova Varekova: >>> do Fedora have some statistics of how many users install concrete fedora >>> package? >> >> this is impossible! >> from where will you get the counts? >> from yum-downlo

Re: headsup: rawhide 3.0 kernel needs symlink

2011-06-03 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 12:54:43PM +0100, "Andy Green (林安廸)" wrote: > Hi - > > Maybe it's common knowledge already but the 3.0 / 3.0.0 thing has led to > the uname -r of the kernel not matching the packaged module path. > > Your boot will be a "bit minimal" until you stick a symlink in along the

Re: package installation statistics

2011-06-03 Thread Björn Persson
Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 03.06.2011 10:19, schrieb Ivana Hutarova Varekova: > > do Fedora have some statistics of how many users install concrete fedora > > package? > > this is impossible! > from where will you get the counts? > from yum-downloads - well which mirrors? > > maybe somebody believ

headsup: rawhide 3.0 kernel needs symlink

2011-06-03 Thread Andy Green (林安廸)
Hi - Maybe it's common knowledge already but the 3.0 / 3.0.0 thing has led to the uname -r of the kernel not matching the packaged module path. Your boot will be a "bit minimal" until you stick a symlink in along the lines of --> ln -sf /lib/modules/3.0-0.rc1.git0.1.fc16.x86_64 /lib/modules/3

Re: system-config-keyboard needs some loving, any takers?

2011-06-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Ven 3 juin 2011 13:12, Marko Myllynen a écrit : > It seems that Debian has solved this by offering layouts from > xkeyboard-config during installation and then generating corresponding > console keymap based on the selection on the fly with console-setup [3]. This is the correct way to go, n

Re: patch only if dependent version < x? (rpm spec)

2011-06-03 Thread Neal Becker
Kevin Kofler wrote: > Neal Becker wrote: >> How can I apply a patch only if the version of a dependency is < x? > > I generally do something like: > > %if 0%{?fedora} > NN > %global have_foo_MMM 1 > %endif > > %if 0%{?have_foo_MMM} > BuildRequires: foo-devel >= MMM > %else > BuildRequires: foo-

Re: system-config-keyboard needs some loving, any takers?

2011-06-03 Thread Marko Myllynen
Hi, > The mass posting of please check if this bug still happens > with newer versions to F-13 bugs made me look at: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=545738 > > Which sadly still has not been fixed yet. While trying > to reproduce 545738 I hit: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.

Re: Request for removal of package from Fedora repositories: dasher.x86_64

2011-06-03 Thread Nicola Soranzo
Alle giovedì 2 giugno 2011, Michael Wiktowy ha scritto: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:00 PM, nodata wrote: > > Hello, > > > > dasher in Fedora has been broken for me since Fedora 12. > > > > The bug I entered has recently been automatically closed. > > > > dasher doesn't work in 64-bit and can be

system-config-keyboard needs some loving, any takers?

2011-06-03 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi All, The mass posting of please check if this bug still happens with newer versions to F-13 bugs made me look at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=545738 Which sadly still has not been fixed yet. While trying to reproduce 545738 I hit: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=646

Re: Installing bash-completion by default in F-16

2011-06-03 Thread David Howells
Ville Skyttä wrote: > I'd like to have bash-completion included in F-16's default install. In > my opinion it's in a good enough shape for that already now, and with my > upstream hat on I expect things to further improve before F-16 is out. ... and then you install acroread and things go horri

Re: package installation statistics

2011-06-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.06.2011 10:19, schrieb Ivana Hutarova Varekova: > Hello, > do Fedora have some statistics of how many users install concrete fedora > package? > Ivana Hutarova Varekova this is impossible! from where will you get the counts? from yum-downloads - well which mirrors? maybe somebody believe

package installation statistics

2011-06-03 Thread Ivana Hutarova Varekova
Hello, do Fedora have some statistics of how many users install concrete fedora package? Ivana Hutarova Varekova -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Guidance on hulahop epoch usage

2011-06-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:09 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote: > > true, but anyone who would have had hulahop installed at F-10 time and did > the (guaranteed) update to F11, F12, ... F15 at the right times would still > have this issue now, right? > > tbh, it seems to be corner case enough to just say "u