[Bug 711261] Missing dependency ocaml-curl-devel - libcurl-devel

2011-06-11 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=711261

Michael Ekstrand mich...@elehack.net changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Michael Ekstrand mich...@elehack.net 2011-06-11 20:44:02 
EDT ---
I have committed a change which adds curl-devel as a Requires: for both the
ocaml-curl and ocaml-curl-devel packages.  Since ocaml-curl uses -custom rather
than ocamlmklib for building the cma file, the curl-devel package is required
to use it in the toplevel (and ocamlmktop is required for toplevel use).

Therefore, I propose this hard-wired dependency as a temporary solution until
upstream starts using ocamlmklib (bug 712635).  If this is an acceptable
solution, let me know  I can start a rawhide build and merge it to f15 as
well.

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Re: rawhide missed an implicit dependency for #!python

2011-06-11 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 06/11/2011 12:14 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:59:18 +0300
 Panu Matilainenpmati...@laiskiainen.org  wrote:

 On 06/10/2011 02:28 AM, Josh Stone wrote:
 On 06/02/2011 01:26 PM, Josh Stone wrote:
 Our dtrace script in systemtap-sdt-devel starts
 #!/usr/bin/python. Usually this leads to an implicit
 Requires: /usr/bin/python, but for some reason our rawhide build
 did not get this.  The F15, F14, and F13 builds from the same spec
 required python as expected.
 [...]
 Is this a bug?  Or must we now explicitly require python?

 An output change in file-5.07 appears to have broken find-requires:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=712251

 And since file-5.07-2.fc15 is now in updates, I would expect this to
 cause even more problems going forward.

 Fixed now in rawhide rpm and an update for F15 is here:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/rpm-4.9.0-9.fc15

 Please help testing to get this nasty regression fixed ASAP.

 ALL packages containing scripts which have been built while file-5.07
 has been in rawhide (since May 11th)  F15 (in updates-testing since
 May 23rd) are affected and will have missing dependencies because of
 this, requiring rebuilds to correct the situation.

 Thanks Josh for reporting this, and also apologies for missing your
 initial mail on the subject, reacting then would've saved a week's
 worth of broken builds :-/

 Is there a way we can generate a list of builds affected?
 Is it everything? Or things that only have a specific type of requires?

Every package which contains one or more script files starting with 
#!/some/interpreter is affected (%pre etc scriptlets are not affected 
though). And all the missing dependencies are file-dependencies, eg 
/usr/bin/python, /bin/sh etc.

This can't be detected from repodata, but the actual rpm headers carry 
enough data to fairly reliably spot these: executable files (from 
%{FILEMODES}) whose %{FILECLASS} contains script but does not have 
%{FILEREQUIRE} (to its interpreter) means the package is missing 
dependencies.

The above works for packages built with the internal dependency 
generator, for the others:

a) packages using the Fedora specific dependency filtering macros (large 
percentage of perl-packages at least)
b) packages directly setting %_use_internal_dependency_generator to 0

...it can't be detected from the metadata alone and would require 
unpacking the rpm and examining executable files. I'll be mostly AFK 
through the rest of the weekend but I can try scripting it up for the 
part that can be automated on Monday.

In the meanwhile if you know your package contains executable scripts 
and was built within the last month (for rawhide), it will need a rebuild.

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Re: rawhide missed an implicit dependency for #!python

2011-06-11 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 06/11/2011 10:15 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
 On 06/11/2011 12:14 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:59:18 +0300
 Panu Matilainenpmati...@laiskiainen.org   wrote:

 On 06/10/2011 02:28 AM, Josh Stone wrote:
 On 06/02/2011 01:26 PM, Josh Stone wrote:
 Our dtrace script in systemtap-sdt-devel starts
 #!/usr/bin/python. Usually this leads to an implicit
 Requires: /usr/bin/python, but for some reason our rawhide build
 did not get this.  The F15, F14, and F13 builds from the same spec
 required python as expected.
 [...]
 Is this a bug?  Or must we now explicitly require python?

 An output change in file-5.07 appears to have broken find-requires:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=712251

 And since file-5.07-2.fc15 is now in updates, I would expect this to
 cause even more problems going forward.

 Fixed now in rawhide rpm and an update for F15 is here:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/rpm-4.9.0-9.fc15

 Please help testing to get this nasty regression fixed ASAP.

 ALL packages containing scripts which have been built while file-5.07
 has been in rawhide (since May 11th)   F15 (in updates-testing since
 May 23rd) are affected and will have missing dependencies because of
 this, requiring rebuilds to correct the situation.

 Thanks Josh for reporting this, and also apologies for missing your
 initial mail on the subject, reacting then would've saved a week's
 worth of broken builds :-/

 Is there a way we can generate a list of builds affected?
 Is it everything? Or things that only have a specific type of requires?

 Every package which contains one or more script files starting with
 #!/some/interpreter is affected (%pre etc scriptlets are not affected
 though). And all the missing dependencies are file-dependencies, eg
 /usr/bin/python, /bin/sh etc.

 This can't be detected from repodata, but the actual rpm headers carry
 enough data to fairly reliably spot these: executable files (from
 %{FILEMODES}) whose %{FILECLASS} contains script but does not have
 %{FILEREQUIRE} (to its interpreter) means the package is missing
 dependencies.

Oh and btw, the above is for detecting the exact condition for a missed 
script interpreter dependency, but in this situation a simpler rule 
could also be used (for packages built with the internal depgen): if it 
contains any files whose %{FILECLASS} contains script, and has a build 
date within the last month, it almost certainly needs a rebuild.

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Re:

2011-06-11 Thread Andy Shevchenko
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Sergio Belkin seb...@gmail.com wrote:
 ./configure LDFLAGS=-no-install
 snip
 configure:3659: gcc   -no-install conftest.c  5
 gcc: error: unrecognized option '-no-install'

 I've found an example here:
 It's useful if someone wants to avoid the wrappers generation (look at the 
 end):
 http://www.flameeyes.eu/autotools-mythbuster/libtool/wrappers.html
 Perhaps ./configure LDFLAGS=-no-install is somewhat heterodox 

Official page of autotools tells nothing like that example:
http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/autobook/autobook_89.html

I guess it makes sense only as make option, not configure.


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Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-11 Thread Peter Robinson
On 11 Jun 2011 03:35, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 06/11/2011 05:20 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
Lets be blunt here - he pushed very very very hard on these very lists
  to get systemd in - now its in F15 and there are problems - so no
  punting please. Upstream and fedora are the same for syste

 That is a gross over simplification.  Fedora is just one of the many
 distros integrating systemd and there are developers from other distros
 including Novell involved in systemd and contributing to it.  If we
 start discussing every project where Red Hat is heaving involved, that
 list is long

  [1] Yes he spoke with another distro - but no-one is using it. So its a
  fedora only project until its picked up somewhere else - which has not
  happened yet.

 That's not true.   Mandriva 2011 is already including it by default.  So
 is MeeGo.

actually meego will only ship it in 1.3 which will be out around the time of
f16

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Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-11 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com wrote:
 Hi Lennart,

 systemd is eating a lot more memory than any other init process
 I ever played with.

 Granted, systemd does a bit more that typical init, but I think
 using *eleven plus megabytes* of malloced space is a bit much.

~11MB equals ~8 cents of RAM ... so meh.

If that's all you have to worry about its a good indication that they
aren't any real problems ;)
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Re: rawhide missed an implicit dependency for #!python

2011-06-11 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 06/11/2011 10:15 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote:

 In the meanwhile if you know your package contains executable scripts 
 and was built within the last month (for rawhide), it will need a rebuild.

I suppose there are many cases where the missing script dependency does
not actually matter, because the interpreter ends up being installed
through other dependencies.  For example python packages that have a
dependency on python(abi) or some of their dependencies have it, similar
perl cases, /bin/sh is often pulled in by package scriptlets etc.
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Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-11 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:17 AM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com
 wrote:
  Hi Lennart,
 
  systemd is eating a lot more memory than any other init process
  I ever played with.
 
  Granted, systemd does a bit more that typical init, but I think
  using *eleven plus megabytes* of malloced space is a bit much.

 ~11MB equals ~8 cents of RAM ... so meh.

 If that's all you have to worry about its a good indication that they
 aren't any real problems ;)


11Mb on a device that may only have 256 such as an XO-1 or a phone or some
other ARM based device is actually quite a bit, over 4% in fact. 8c x 2.5m
devices is around $200K. While 4Gb is pretty standard in laptops, and 1Tb
isn't uncommon in servers now days there are also 100s of devices that run
linux in a whole lot less than that.

Peter
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Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-11 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi,

On 06/10/2011 06:12 PM, Thomas Sailer wrote:
snip

 - USB is not really workable. Trying it just now with up2date F15
 crashed qemu (guest rawhide) when trying to assign a host USB device to
 the guest


If you're seriously interested in usb redirection, I'm working on
seriously improving that and will continue to work on that for
a while to come. I would love some feedback wrt my current code.

Note that I'm mainly focusing on usb redirection over the network,
so that the redirected device does not need to be on the same
machine as where the vm is hosted (think viewing a vm from
another machine with vnc/spice and then wanting to redirect
a usb device from the vnc client machine).

Currently my network redirection code is already working in
a few scenarios where direct host usb redirection is not working
I do plan to eventually fixup direct host usb redirection too
(by rewriting it to use libusb and essentially be the same as
the network redir variant). But for now you will get the best
experience with the network redirection, even if you use
it over localhost.

For some instructions on setting up a test environment with
my latest wip, see:
http://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/9682.html

Regards,

Hans

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Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-11 Thread Thomas Sailer
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 09:24 +1000, Chris Jones wrote:

 I'd suggest you purchase a new card reader. You do realize you can  
 pick them up for around $10?

I'd even pay you $20 if you find me one that writes those strange edge
flash cards used by freeflight GPS devices.

Tom


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SUMMARY - [Fwd: Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - TODAY]

2011-06-11 Thread Jon Masters

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On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 04:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:

 We are hosting a Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual Fedora Activity Day today, at
 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is
 to co-ordinate the bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating point).
 
 You can find a lot more detail here, along with all the pre-reqs/bits:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Fedora15_HardFP_Bootstrap_Virtual_FAD_20110610

This activity day was completed to our overall satisfaction. At the end
of the day, we had an additional dozen or more packages built and had
derived a workflow for addressing the remainder of the bootstrap. We
plan another followup Virtual Fedora Activity Day as follows:

* Wednesday June 22nd 2011 - 14:00UTC (10:00EDT)

For further information about how the day went, see:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Fedora15_HardFP_Bootstrap_Virtual_FAD_20110610

To participate further in this activity, refer to this:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Fedora15_HardFP_Bootstrap

Jon.


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Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-11 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.comwrote:

 On 06/10/2011 03:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:


  what would be really nice is to redirect systemd discussions to its
  upstream mailing list.  Fedora devel is hardly the best place for it.
 
  Rahul

  Beg to differ - rather vehemently too - politely but vehemently.

  systemd is only available in fedora[1] - we are the test pigs for
 better or for worse - and there are most certainly bugs in fedora's
 systemd.


Both opensuse and meego are moving to it currently and it will be in their
next releases. Fedora being the first isn't surprising as Red Hat employed
people are the leads on the project and its one of our four foundations. I
would be be very surprised if there weren't bugs, its the first rewrite of
the init system for decades. Fedora 14's init system isn't that different to
the first version of RHL (4.0) I started using back in 96.


  Lets be blunt here - he pushed very very very hard on these very lists
 to get systemd in - now its in F15 and there are problems - so no
 punting please. Upstream and fedora are the same for systemd.


Not sure what your point is here.


  Some bugs like sendmail failing to start have been there since
 September 2010 ( almost 9 months ... ) - people are reporting the same
 issue on F15 in the fedora lists  ... who is fixing this stuff ?

  e.g.

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692008
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=633774


Reading through both of those bugs they both look to be a regression in the
handling of NetworkManager dispatcher scripts [1] which are now fixed and
should be in stable [2] since 2nd June have you bothered to test this and
update the bugs? Its unfortunate the problem with the dispatcher scripts
wasn't picked up prior to release but the bug was fixed upstream by the NM
maintainer in a day once it was reported [3].


  Ok so he's on vacation - this is a very core part of the OS - who is
 backing him up I wonder? Who else is on the project?


A number of people, but as pointed out above its not necessarily always
systemd's fault. System startup is a complex process and has a lot of
interdependencies.


  Surely you're not saying there is no-one else working on systemd...
 and when LP is away/busy nothing will get done ... otherwise I strongly
 urge it be replaced by upstart asap.


That's certainly not the case, you only have to look as far as the upstream
mailing list to see that. The fact that Ubuntu is the only project now
sticking with upstart (and i believe it was actually used by Fedora in a
mainline release first too) shows its uptake. A lot of projects will have a
lead architect that is the main driving force behind the project in the
early stages of the project, systemd is certainly not alone here. In fact if
you bothered to go and look at upstart I think you'll find its the same
there, and what's more with everyone moving to systemd there's likely a lot
less people working on upstart.

Peter

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=703321
[2]
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/NetworkManager-0.8.9997-1.git20110531.fc15
[3] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649773
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Outage: Mediawiki Upgrade - 2011-06-13 18:00 UTC

2011-06-11 Thread Ricky Zhou
There will be an outage starting at 2011-06-13 18:00 UTC, which will
last approximately 1 hour.

To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto
or run:

date -d '2011-06-13 18:00 UTC'

Reason for outage: 

We are updating our mediawiki instance to version 1.16.5.  For those
that are interested in testing this in advance, we have already updated
our staging wiki (https://stg.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Special:Version).

Affected Services:

Wiki - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/

Unaffected Services:

BFO - http://boot.fedoraproject.org/
Bodhi - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/
Buildsystem - http://koji.fedoraproject.org/
GIT / Source Control
DNS - ns1.fedoraproject.org, ns2.fedoraproject.org
Docs - http://docs.fedoraproject.org/
Email system
Fedora Account System - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/
Fedora Community - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/
Fedora Hosted - https://fedorahosted.org/
Fedora Insight - https://insight.fedoraproject.org/
Fedora People - http://fedorapeople.org/
Fedora Talk - http://talk.fedoraproject.org/
Main Website - http://fedoraproject.org/
Mirror List - https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/
Mirror Manager - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/
Package Database - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/
Smolt - http://smolts.org/
Spins - http://spins.fedoraproject.org/
Start - http://start.fedoraproject.org/
Torrent - http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
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Ticket Link:

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2011-06-11 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Jun 11 08:15:30 UTC 2011

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gnome-device-manager-libs-0.2-6.fc15.i686 requires libhal.so.1
gnome-device-manager-libs-0.2-6.fc15.i686 requires hal = 0:0.5.10
gnome-device-manager-libs-0.2-6.fc15.x86_64 requires 
libhal.so.1()(64bit)
gnome-device-manager-libs-0.2-6.fc15.x86_64 requires hal = 0:0.5.10
gnome-netstatus-2.28.2-1.fc15.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
gnome-pilot-conduits-2.32.1-2.fc15.x86_64 requires 
libgpilotdconduit.so.3()(64bit)
gnome-pilot-conduits-2.32.1-2.fc15.x86_64 requires 
libgpilotd.so.5()(64bit)
gnome-pilot-conduits-2.32.1-2.fc15.x86_64 requires 
libgpilotdcm.so.4()(64bit)
gnome-pilot-eds-2.91.92-1.fc16.x86_64 requires 
libcamel-1.2.so.23()(64bit)
gnome-schedule-2.0.2-6.fc15.noarch requires gnome-python2-applet
gnubiff-2.2.13-4.fc15.x86_64 requires 

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 01:19:25PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 The 3.0 kernels are not working for me. (A cpu lockup is reporting during
 boot.) I am wondering if things are broken for everyone where I should
 probably just wait for updates and try again, or if I should get a picture
 of the traceback and file a bug?

Works for me, but crashes every night. (Automatic backups to a network drive
are happening at the time.) Haven't tried the latest
kernel-3.0-0.rc2.git0.2.fc16.x86_64 package though.

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Re: Bodhi v0.8 in production

2011-06-11 Thread Tom Callaway
On 06/10/2011 01:21 PM, Luke Macken wrote:
* Buildroot Override Management
   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bodhi/BuildRootOverrides

In case you missed it, this means you can now do your own BuildRoot
Overrides, as opposed to filing a ticket with rel-eng and waiting for
them to do it manually. Please be smart about this, because your
overrides (while they're active) affect everyone.

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Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-11 Thread Gilboa Davara


On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 16:25 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
 On 10/06/11 16:12, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
 
  Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
  
  They are available, but I think you have to build them yourself from
  source.  All the information is here:
 
  2. Make guest additions dead simple to install. Having to compile them
  with a Windows DDK is not dead simple.
 
 Actually building the driver (once I'd downloaded the 620Mb DDK) was 
 quite easy. I'm still scratching my head over how to actually install it 
 though ;-)

Actually, even if you build the driver and get it to work, you're still
stuck with the Windows' driver signature enforcement which makes
installing unsigned drivers (such as one that you build yourself)
more-or-less impossible (I tried every possible software / hack-ware to
disable it and failed; ended up getting used to manual F8/Disable
signature enforcement boot sequence).

I fear that as long as RH doesn't MS the (protection) fees required to
sign the QXL driver, I fear that this issue will remain unresolved.
(On the other hand, nothing stops -me- from doing it and yet I don't see
me running to do it :))

As for the subject at hand, -I- find VB a far inferior solution when it
comes to SMP and IO (disk/network) performance.
Sure, during the years I've create a large chunk of scripts required to
deploy and configure qemu VM's, but once you pass the I fear the qemu
command line phase, KVM runs circles around VB. (Let alone having to
relay on a unsupported 3'rd party kernel module - a huge no-no in server
deployments)
Nothing beats starting a VM in snapshot mode, trashing it, and reverting
to the original without as much a single mouse click...

I do use VB on VT-incapable machines such as my ATOM netbook - but
that's about it.

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Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-11 Thread Gilboa Davara
 
  1. Easy setup of networking (bridged).
 Just to followup, to setup bridged net on kvm I need to reboot my server.  
 That's a non-starter.

And long as you're will to do the hard work yourself, there's no need to
reboot your machine.

1. Create a bridge configuration for each target network devices (E.g.
ifcfg-vbr0 for ifcfg-eth0).
2. Mark the ethX device as IP-less and boot-protocol-less (IPADDR=,
IPV6_ADDR=, BOOTPROTO=none) and bridge controlled (BRIDGE=brX),
configure the bridge device (DEVICE=brX, TYPE=Brdige, IPADDR, IPV6_ADDR,
etc)
2. Disable NM on both the bridge and the Ethernet device
(NM_CONTROLLED=no).
3. Restart NM. (Or disable it if all your Ethernet devices are bridged)
4. Enable and start network service.
(If you don't want to interrupt incoming connections, you'll have to
start each network device by hand)
5. Profit.

At worse, you'll have a 2-3 second interruption while the bridge assumes
the IP address originally held by the Ethernet device.

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Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Lucas

I can only boot if selinux is disabled - selinux=0 in grub. Otherwise boot 
always stops in 
different moments.
I can't figured out which problem is this - selinux or systemd?
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Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Tom London
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Lucas macach...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can only boot if selinux is disabled - selinux=0 in grub. Otherwise boot 
 always stops in
 different moments.
 I can't figured out which problem is this - selinux or systemd?
 --

Does this sound like it? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=711015

If so, you need a newer systemd. systemd-28-3.fc16.x86_64 works for me.

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Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Lucas
On 06/11/2011 08:35 PM, Tom London wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Lucasmacach...@gmail.com  wrote:

 I can only boot if selinux is disabled - selinux=0 in grub. Otherwise boot 
 always stops in
 different moments.
 I can't figured out which problem is this - selinux or systemd?
 --

 Does this sound like it? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=711015

 If so, you need a newer systemd. systemd-28-3.fc16.x86_64 works for me.

 tom


I use systemd-28-3.fc16.i686 and updated it when it became available, but still 
have real problems 
with boot.
If it stops it happens definitely in systemd job - when it is starting services.
And I can't find any errors.
More important that I have changed selinux to permissive - there is no 
difference. I can boot only 
with selinux=0.
I have tried upstart - it works without any problems.
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Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 20:47:41 +0400,
  Lucas macach...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I use systemd-28-3.fc16.i686 and updated it when it became available, but 
 still have real problems 
 with boot.
 If it stops it happens definitely in systemd job - when it is starting 
 services.
 And I can't find any errors.
 More important that I have changed selinux to permissive - there is no 
 difference. I can boot only 
 with selinux=0.
 I have tried upstart - it works without any problems.

You probably need to rebuild the initramfs file for your kernel. One way
to do it is to uninstall the latest kernel and then reinstall it. (I am not
sure if that break things if that is the kernel you are running. So you
might want to boot with an older one to do this.)
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Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-11 Thread Michael Cronenworth
- Original message -
 
 As for the subject at hand, -I- find VB a far inferior solution when it
 comes to SMP and IO (disk/network) performance.

With the latest VB and the SATA controller I see faster performance in the VM 
over bare hardware.

 Sure, during the years I've create a large chunk of scripts required to
 deploy and configure qemu VM's, but once you pass the I fear the qemu
 command line phase, KVM runs circles around VB. (Let alone having to
 relay on a unsupported 3'rd party kernel module - a huge no-no in server
 deployments)

VB kernel modules are GPL licensed.

 Nothing beats starting a VM in snapshot mode, trashing it, and reverting
 to the original without as much a single mouse click...

VB supports snapshots too. I use them frequently.

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Re: Buildbot package

2011-06-11 Thread philippe makowski
2011/5/26 Gianluca Sforna gia...@gmail.com:
 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  buildbot-master
  buildbot-slave
  buildbot : meta-package which requires -master and -slave

 Good. I guess I can produce both buildbot and buildbot-master from the
 current buildbot package, so just one review for buildbot-slave is
 actually needed?

or even produce build-slave too from the current buildbot package
that's the way it was done in OpenSuse and the way I did in Mageia
http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/buildbot/current/SPECS/buildbot.spec?view=markup
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Re: orphaning xine-lib, EOL'ing phonon-backend-xine

2011-06-11 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Kevin Kofler wrote:

 there's one third-party KDE-Platform-based application still using
 xine-lib for the foreseeable future: Kaffeine.

kaffeine has begun to look kind of shabby. I always installed it, as xine 
appeared to have the most complete set of codecs. Can other programs now deal 
with everything that xine/kaffeine was a fallback for? (Sorry, I have no actual 
examples, off the top of my head)

xine-lib is a requisite for xine-lib-extras-freeworld. Will amarok be using a 
different library to play mp3 in f16?

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wanting to orphan htmldoc

2011-06-11 Thread Adam Goode
Hi,

I'd like to give up ownership for htmldoc. Please, if anyone is
interested, take it.

Here are the packages that depend on it:


htmldoc-0:1.8.27-13.fc12.src
LabPlot-0:1.6.0.2-8.fc12.src
diveintopython-0:5.4-18.fc15.src
mathomatic-0:15.5.0-1.fc15.src
mlton-0:20100608-3.fc15.src   (my package, I am removing its
requirement on htmldoc)
virtuoso-opensource-1:6.1.2-3.fc15.src

chm2pdf-0:0.9.1-10.fc15.noarch
openvas-client-0:3.0.3-2.fc15.x86_64



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Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Lucas
On 06/11/2011 08:42 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 20:47:41 +0400,
Lucasmacach...@gmail.com  wrote:

 I use systemd-28-3.fc16.i686 and updated it when it became available, but 
 still have real problems
 with boot.
 If it stops it happens definitely in systemd job - when it is starting 
 services.
 And I can't find any errors.
 More important that I have changed selinux to permissive - there is no 
 difference. I can boot only
 with selinux=0.
 I have tried upstart - it works without any problems.

 You probably need to rebuild the initramfs file for your kernel. One way
 to do it is to uninstall the latest kernel and then reinstall it. (I am not
 sure if that break things if that is the kernel you are running. So you
 might want to boot with an older one to do this.)

Doesn't work that way, just checked. Stops in different points.
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Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Andre Robatino
Lucas macachuto at gmail.com writes:

 I use systemd-28-3.fc16.i686 and updated it when it became available,
 but still have real problems 
 with boot.
 If it stops it happens definitely in systemd job - when it is starting
 services. And I can't find any errors.
 More important that I have changed selinux to permissive - there is
 no difference. I can boot only with selinux=0.
 I have tried upstart - it works without any problems.

If you've been using selinux=0, try doing a relabeling. I did touch
/.autorelabel and rebooted without selinux=0, but got dropped to
single-user mode. I then did restorecon -R -v / and rebooted successfully
without selinux=0. After that, I did touch /.autorelabel again and was able
to successfully reboot without selinux=0, without getting dropped to
single-user mode, and booting has been normal since. (This is all after
updating to the latest systemd.)




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Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Lucas
On 06/11/2011 11:00 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
 Lucasmacachutoat  gmail.com  writes:

 I use systemd-28-3.fc16.i686 and updated it when it became available,
 but still have real problems
 with boot.
 If it stops it happens definitely in systemd job - when it is starting
 services. And I can't find any errors.
 More important that I have changed selinux to permissive - there is
 no difference. I can boot only with selinux=0.
 I have tried upstart - it works without any problems.

 If you've been using selinux=0, try doing a relabeling. I did touch
 /.autorelabel and rebooted without selinux=0, but got dropped to
 single-user mode. I then did restorecon -R -v / and rebooted successfully
 without selinux=0. After that, I did touch /.autorelabel again and was able
 to successfully reboot without selinux=0, without getting dropped to
 single-user mode, and booting has been normal since. (This is all after
 updating to the latest systemd.)


Actually it does relabel by it self after boot with option selinux=0, and of 
course I did relabel.
It manages to stop anyway. But not always, sometime I can boot, sometime not.

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Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-11 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:30:10 +0200, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
  As for the subject at hand, -I- find VB a far inferior solution when it
  comes to SMP and IO (disk/network) performance.
 
 With the latest VB and the SATA controller I see faster performance in the
 VM over bare hardware.

This is because KVM sync-es by default, one has to use cache=unsafe to get the
same (possibly better) performace with KVM as with the other hypervisors.
And sure it is then all faster than natively sync-ing OS on bare hardware.


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Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 2011-06-11 12:11, Lucas wrote:
 Actually it does relabel by it self after boot with option selinux=0

That sounds rather useful.  How does it know whether or not it was 
previously booted with selinux=0?
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Re: Different behaviour on gcc 4.6?

2011-06-11 Thread Christoph Frieben
2011/6/11 Sergio Belkin:
 /* confdefs.h */
 #define PACKAGE_NAME UpTools
 #define PACKAGE_TARNAME UpTools
 #define PACKAGE_VERSION 8.5.5
 #define PACKAGE_STRING UpTools 8.5.5
 #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT bugs-upto...@palermo.edu
 #define PACKAGE_URL 
 #define PACKAGE UpTools
 #define VERSION 8.5.5
 /* end confdefs.h.  */

 int
 main ()
 {

 ;
 return 0;
 }

Your code snippet is compiled without any issue; seems like your
compiler flags are messed up. ~C

$ cc --version
cc (GCC) 4.6.0 20110530 (Red Hat 4.6.0-9)
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Re: orphaning xine-lib, EOL'ing phonon-backend-xine

2011-06-11 Thread John5342
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 19:02, Petrus de Calguarium pguec...@gmail.comwrote:

 Kevin Kofler wrote:

  there's one third-party KDE-Platform-based application still using
  xine-lib for the foreseeable future: Kaffeine.

 kaffeine has begun to look kind of shabby. I always installed it, as xine
 appeared to have the most complete set of codecs. Can other programs now
 deal
 with everything that xine/kaffeine was a fallback for? (Sorry, I have no
 actual
 examples, off the top of my head)

 xine-lib is a requisite for xine-lib-extras-freeworld. Will amarok be using
 a
 different library to play mp3 in f16?


So far as i am aware amarok just uses phonon for playback (since 2.0) so if
you use phonon-backend-xine then it uses xine and if you use
phonon-backend-gstreamer it uses gstreamer and phonon-backend-vlc uses vlc.
Hence xine-lib-extras-freeworld should make no difference to amarok when
using the default backend anyway. You probably want gstreamer-plugins-* in
f15+ (or whenever phonon-backend-gstreamer became the default) unless you
changed the back end manually.

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Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-11 Thread Neal Becker
Gilboa Davara wrote:

  
  1. Easy setup of networking (bridged).
 Just to followup, to setup bridged net on kvm I need to reboot my server.
 That's a non-starter.
 
 And long as you're will to do the hard work yourself, there's no need to
 reboot your machine.
 
 1. Create a bridge configuration for each target network devices (E.g.
 ifcfg-vbr0 for ifcfg-eth0).
 2. Mark the ethX device as IP-less and boot-protocol-less (IPADDR=,
 IPV6_ADDR=, BOOTPROTO=none) and bridge controlled (BRIDGE=brX),
 configure the bridge device (DEVICE=brX, TYPE=Brdige, IPADDR, IPV6_ADDR,
 etc)
 2. Disable NM on both the bridge and the Ethernet device
 (NM_CONTROLLED=no).
 3. Restart NM. (Or disable it if all your Ethernet devices are bridged)
 4. Enable and start network service.
 (If you don't want to interrupt incoming connections, you'll have to
 start each network device by hand)
 5. Profit.
 
 At worse, you'll have a 2-3 second interruption while the bridge assumes
 the IP address originally held by the Ethernet device.
 
 - Gilboa
 
 

Thanks for the info.  Still, VB allows me to setup bridge net with 1 click of 
the gui.  I'd sure like to see that in qemu/kvm.

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Re: orphaning xine-lib, EOL'ing phonon-backend-xine

2011-06-11 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
John5342 wrote:

 Hence xine-lib-extras-freeworld should make no difference to amarok when
 using the default backend anyway. You probably want gstreamer-plugins-* in
 f15+ (or whenever phonon-backend-gstreamer became the default) unless you
 changed the back end manually.

Oh, so you mean I never needed to install xine-lib-extras-freeworld, since I am 
using phonon-backend-gstreamer? I can get amarok to play mp3, assuming I have 
all of the gstreamer-plugins-* installed?

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Re: orphaning xine-lib, EOL'ing phonon-backend-xine

2011-06-11 Thread John5342
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 22:59, Petrus de Calguarium pguec...@gmail.com wrote:

 John5342 wrote:

  Hence xine-lib-extras-freeworld should make no difference to amarok when
  using the default backend anyway. You probably want gstreamer-plugins-* in
  f15+ (or whenever phonon-backend-gstreamer became the default) unless you
  changed the back end manually.

 Oh, so you mean I never needed to install xine-lib-extras-freeworld, since I 
 am
 using phonon-backend-gstreamer?

Precisely.

 I can get amarok to play mp3, assuming I have
 all of the gstreamer-plugins-* installed?

Yes basically. I forget which one exactly contains the mp3 plugin but
i just install all of them and then i don't have to worry about any
other format i may one day come across.

The same plugins are also used by just about every other form of KDE
based audio/video. That includes everything from video players like
Dragon to audio players like Amarok to System Notifications etc.

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Re: orphaning xine-lib, EOL'ing phonon-backend-xine

2011-06-11 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Petrus de Calguarium wrote:

 John5342 wrote:
 
 Hence xine-lib-extras-freeworld should make no difference to amarok when
 using the default backend anyway. You probably want gstreamer-plugins-*
 in f15+ (or whenever phonon-backend-gstreamer became the default) unless
 you changed the back end manually.
 

I guess it works. I just uninstalled xine-lib-extras-freeworld and amarok is 
fine. I haven't tried any video players, yet, but all looks good so far.

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Re: orphaning xine-lib, EOL'ing phonon-backend-xine

2011-06-11 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
John5342 wrote:

 I forget which one exactly contains the mp3 plugin

gstreamer-plugins-ugly, I believe

 i just install all of them and then i don't have to worry about any
 other format i may one day come across.

ditto

 The same plugins are also used by just about every other form of KDE
 based audio/video. That includes everything from video players like
 Dragon to audio players like Amarok to System Notifications etc.

Curious. I thought Dragon must use xine-lib, since both kdemultimedia and 
kdebase-runtime require it in F15.

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Packaging cross toolchains with different versions

2011-06-11 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

I am starting to package cross-toolchains for Fedora/RHEL. Is it
possible to have multiple versions of the same toolchain installed
[1]?

I went through the Fedora Embedded SIG [2] wiki page, and found that
most packages don't have revisions in their names (for example:
avr-binutils). In other words, it is okay to name the package .spec as
rtems-4.11-i386-rtems4.11-binutils.spec?

Appreciate  your inputs in this regard,

Thanks!

SK

[1] RTEMS SRPMS. ftp://ftp.rtems.com/pub/rtems/linux/4.11/fedora/14/SRPMS/

[2] Fedora Embedded SIG. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Embedded

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Re: Packaging cross toolchains with different versions

2011-06-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/12/2011 05:19 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
 Hi,

 I am starting to package cross-toolchains for Fedora/RHEL. Is it
 possible to have multiple versions of the same toolchain installed
 [1]?

 I went through the Fedora Embedded SIG [2] wiki page, and found that
 most packages don't have revisions in their names (for example:
 avr-binutils). In other words, it is okay to name the package .spec as
 rtems-4.11-i386-rtems4.11-binutils.spec?
A Fedora supplied rtems4.11 toolchain package's spec should be named
i386-rtems4.11-binutils.spec (rsp. the package be named 
i386-rtems4.11-binutils).

 [1] RTEMS SRPMS. ftp://ftp.rtems.com/pub/rtems/linux/4.11/fedora/14/SRPMS/

The reason these *.specs are prefixed rtems-4.11- is them being 
installed to /opt/rtems-4.11 (3rd party add-on packages) and not to /usr 
(OS-vendor supplied packages).

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Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-11 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:03:33PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
 
 for decades. Fedora 14's init system isn't that different to the first version
 of RHL (4.0) I started using back in 96.
  
This is somewhat misleading.  There have been many rewrites of the init
system in the past decade.  In fact, the Fedora 14 init system has the
capability to be quite different than the SysVinit scripts that were adopted
in the mid-90s.  What is true is that Fedora 14 had not switched to using
the incompatible-with-SysVinit features of its default (or any of its
optional) init systems so the presentation and behaviour was almost the
same as older SysVinit.

-Toshio


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Re: Packaging cross toolchains with different versions

2011-06-11 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi Ralf:

--- On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:
| A Fedora supplied rtems4.11 toolchain package's spec should be named
| i386-rtems4.11-binutils.spec (rsp. the package be named
| i386-rtems4.11-binutils).
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I shall follow the same. Thanks for your reply!

SK

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[Bug 712578] New: perl-Text-Table-1.123 is available

2011-06-11 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: perl-Text-Table-1.123 is available

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=712578

   Summary: perl-Text-Table-1.123 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: Unspecified
OS/Version: Unspecified
Status: NEW
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Severity: unspecified
  Priority: unspecified
 Component: perl-Text-Table
AssignedTo: mmasl...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: fedora-perl-devel-l...@redhat.com, mmasl...@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora
  Story Points: ---


Latest upstream release: 1.123
Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 1.122
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Text-Table/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring

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[perl-threads-tbb] add exclusivearch, buildrequirement tbb is only available on ia64, x86 and x86_64

2011-06-11 Thread Karsten Hopp
commit abe5f527fe14cb0c6c4523ab4f062b524c6c70f3
Author: Karsten Hopp kars...@redhat.com
Date:   Sat Jun 11 13:13:42 2011 +0200

add exclusivearch, buildrequirement tbb is only available on ia64, x86 and 
x86_64

 perl-threads-tbb.spec |6 +-
 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-threads-tbb.spec b/perl-threads-tbb.spec
index 2214cc8..8f587cc 100644
--- a/perl-threads-tbb.spec
+++ b/perl-threads-tbb.spec
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 # This file is licensed under the terms of GPLv2+.
 Name:   perl-threads-tbb
 Version:0.02
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 Summary:Interface to the Threading Building Blocks (TBB) API
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@ BuildRequires:  perl(Time::HiRes)
 BuildRequires:  perl(XSLoader)
 Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo 
$version))
 Requires:   perl(ExtUtils::XSpp) = 0.01
+ExclusiveArch:  %{ix86} x86_64 ia64
 
 %{?perl_default_filter}
 
@@ -58,6 +59,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jun 11 2011 Karsten Hopp kars...@redhat.com 0.02-2
+- add exclusivearch, buildrequirement tbb is only available on ia64, x86 and 
x86_64
+
 * Tue May 10 2011 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com 0.02-1
 - Specfile autogenerated by cpanspec 1.78.
 - Remove BuildRoot stuff
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Outage: Mediawiki Upgrade - 2011-06-13 18:00 UTC

2011-06-11 Thread Ricky Zhou
There will be an outage starting at 2011-06-13 18:00 UTC, which will
last approximately 1 hour.

To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto
or run:

date -d '2011-06-13 18:00 UTC'

Reason for outage: 

We are updating our mediawiki instance to version 1.16.5.  For those
that are interested in testing this in advance, we have already updated
our staging wiki (https://stg.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Special:Version).

Affected Services:

Wiki - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/

Unaffected Services:

BFO - http://boot.fedoraproject.org/
Bodhi - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/
Buildsystem - http://koji.fedoraproject.org/
GIT / Source Control
DNS - ns1.fedoraproject.org, ns2.fedoraproject.org
Docs - http://docs.fedoraproject.org/
Email system
Fedora Account System - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/
Fedora Community - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/
Fedora Hosted - https://fedorahosted.org/
Fedora Insight - https://insight.fedoraproject.org/
Fedora People - http://fedorapeople.org/
Fedora Talk - http://talk.fedoraproject.org/
Main Website - http://fedoraproject.org/
Mirror List - https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/
Mirror Manager - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/
Package Database - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/
Smolt - http://smolts.org/
Spins - http://spins.fedoraproject.org/
Start - http://start.fedoraproject.org/
Torrent - http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
Translation Services - http://translate.fedoraproject.org/

Ticket Link:

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2563

Contact Information:

Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or add comments to the
ticket for this outage above. 


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