Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 02:52:58AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: seth vidal wrote: That you've implemented a depsolver for use with PK that does not match yum nor anaconda is pretty bad. You've chosen intentional incompatibility. That's neither helpful nor really embodying the goals I like

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Richard Hughes
On 17 September 2011 02:36, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: So you came up with this really complex heuristic in a vain attempt to always do the right thing without requiring changes to the packages, and now it does a completely wrong thing which would be straightforward to avoid,

HEADS-UP libmemcached soname bump in rawhide

2011-09-17 Thread Remi Collet
I've just upgrade libmemcached to 0.52 which provides libmemcached.so.8 I don't plan to push this update to fedora = 16. (except if expressly asked to) Remi -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

SysV to systemd conversion: please double-check the default and post-upgrade state of your services

2011-09-17 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, everyone. I'm starting to get a bit concerned about one aspect of the SysV to systemd conversion process. I've come across three separate bugs where the default and/or post-upgrade state of services was incorrect: in two cases, the service changed from being disabled by default in F15 to

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 08:08:24AM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: On 17 September 2011 07:21, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: ... and no way to access yum information from anything other than Python, which makes it harder to use more professional programming languages and yum data

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I meant to add this link to the current Python-subprocess code: http://git.annexia.org/?p=febootstrap.git;a=blob;f=src/febootstrap_yum_rpm.ml;h=028492a0d3c894e7cb2c85b446f6bff272217147;hb=HEAD#l35 Note the extra backslashes and double %%'s are because the Python code is contained in a

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Richard Hughes
On 17 September 2011 10:38, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Yeah, it looks possible. The very fact that you're exposing a C API and a library is a promising start, even if it didn't yet do specifically what I needed. Would it be easier if I provided a GIR file so you can just use

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard Hughes wrote: Anyway, if anyone wants to know the fesco ticket, it's here: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/669 Thanks for actually posting the link! To Seth: What a bunch of nonsense! This is a more serious proposal:

GNOME and Xfce terminal entries not distinguishable in menus

2011-09-17 Thread Jos Vos
Hi, After having installed both GNOME and Xfce since F15, I noticed that the GNOME terminal (package gnome-terminal) and Xfce terminal (package Terminal) use the same Name and Icon in their desktop files. So when using the System menu, you have to try (and remember) which one is the one you

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:54:35AM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: On 17 September 2011 10:38, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Yeah, it looks possible. The very fact that you're exposing a C API and a library is a promising start, even if it didn't yet do specifically what I

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Richard Hughes
On 17 September 2011 11:05, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: I don't mind as long as it's callable from other languages (either using generated bindings like GIR or using hand written bindings). I've just pushed: commit 4132eb5a40e1a6a85358e96f7adfd3cf56e8ef3f Author: Richard Hughes

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/17/2011 06:22 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: It's quite funny that you're accusing Richard of being incompatible with yum when the incompatibilities that matter most to our users have been required by yum developers, in particular: * no writing to the yum database by default, * no parsing

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Adding a conflicts to yum against zif was a inappropriate use of conflicts and must have been resolved in a better way. The animosity between people working on competing solutions is leading to a proposal which really wouldn't fly. Having said that, I think zif needs

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/17/2011 04:50 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: While I think Fedora would benefit from using zif throughout (mainly because it's in a compiled language, not in Python), I don't agree that this should be a requirement for using zif in PackageKit. PackageKit should use what is best suited for

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Richard Hughes
On 17 September 2011 11:59, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: I think zif needs to be command line compatible and support delta RPMs The former should work pretty well. If I've missed any obvious aliases yell and I'll add them. The latter is 80% implemented, but I don't use delta-rpms

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard Hughes wrote: On 17 September 2011 11:59, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: ...I think the problem PackageKit is facing is also true for other tools. I agree. I've just merged the GIR generation into master, so hopefully it would be possible to do things like use Zif from PHP

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 03:38:55AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: If you have decided you are going to do something different with Zif anyway, you might as well as work with the zypper team and see whether you can make something out of it. So much of what we do in Fedora

Re: HEADS-UP libmemcached soname bump in rawhide

2011-09-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/17/2011 01:08 PM, Remi Collet wrote: I've just upgrade libmemcached to 0.52 which provides libmemcached.so.8 Are you planning to rebuild the dependencies? Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Richard Hughes
On 17 September 2011 13:56, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Richard Hughes wrote: And Python too, I suppose? Sure. I'd welcome any python dudes to write a small program in examples/ just to test if the GIR annotations are complete enough. Richard. -- devel mailing list

Re: HEADS-UP libmemcached soname bump in rawhide

2011-09-17 Thread Remi Collet
Le 17/09/2011 15:36, Rahul Sundaram a écrit : On 09/17/2011 01:08 PM, Remi Collet wrote: I've just upgrade libmemcached to 0.52 which provides libmemcached.so.8 Are you planning to rebuild the dependencies? Yes, build are already running. Rahul -- devel mailing list

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/17/2011 06:44 PM, Michael Schroeder wrote: libzypp is actually a library on top of libsatsolver (now renamed to libsolv). If you want a lightweight package dependency solver you should probably use libsolv directly. (It also contains python bindings and a simple python demo program which

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Kofler wrote: The yum default provider picking logic has become so complex (and dependent on what the user happens to have already installed!) [...] And while making a decision based on what the user has already installed may make sense from a user's perspective, from a developer's

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 09/16/2011 11:53 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:49:36 -0400, SV (seth) wrote: There are still a largish number of packages out there that have things like: Requires: foo where they really want: Requires: foo(64bit) Fixing this in some packages is not entirely

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/17/2011 07:53 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: The near-flamefest on this thread over whose depsolver is the best is largely besides the point: in a perfect world there would be just one Grand Unified Depsolver (library) that everything including rpm itself would use. And in order for rpm to

Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

2011-09-17 Thread Steve Clark
On 09/17/2011 01:09 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 23:22 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Oh, I must have misunderstood - Gene's Mailist comment: . Temptinh as it might be, just please keep session management away from the init daemon and let it do its one important job

Looking for dnssec-triggerd alpha testers!

2011-09-17 Thread Paul Wouters
Hi developers of NM and Fedora, We are trying to get DNSSEC validation on the end nodes. One way of doing that is to run a caching resolver on every host, but that strains the DNS infrastructure because all DNS caches would be circumvented. Since DNSSEC data is signed, you can obtain it via

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 09/17/2011 05:58 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 09/17/2011 07:53 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: The near-flamefest on this thread over whose depsolver is the best is largely besides the point: in a perfect world there would be just one Grand Unified Depsolver (library) that everything including

Package rename review request: libreoffice-voikko

2011-09-17 Thread Ville-Pekka Vainio
Hi, I finally had the time to package the updated and renamed version of the Finnish spell-checking extension for LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org, libreoffice-voikko. The review request is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739331 . I also CC'd libreoffice-owner, maybe the

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.comwrote: On 16 September 2011 20:46, Jef Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure you didn't cut it down so much that you are hiding problems that your depsolving rules don't solve well? Did you throw out someone's

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Jef Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote: But putting that aside for a minute. I'm interested in asking zif a series of more complicated real world Fedora repository questions to get a better understanding how your chosen scoring rules currently work in practise.

Re: GNOME and Xfce terminal entries not distinguishable in menus

2011-09-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:04:36 +0200 Jos Vos j...@xos.nl wrote: Hi, After having installed both GNOME and Xfce since F15, I noticed that the GNOME terminal (package gnome-terminal) and Xfce terminal (package Terminal) use the same Name and Icon in their desktop files. So when using the

Package review request

2011-09-17 Thread Russell Golden
Hello. My name is Russell Golden. I am currently an Ambassador, and I would like to branch into packaging. I already have a review request up: the EFF's HTTPS Everywhere browser plugin. I would greatly appreciate any and all feedback that a reviewer might have.

Package review request

2011-09-17 Thread Russell Golden
Hello. My name is Russell Golden. I am currently an Ambassador, and I would like to branch into packaging. I already have a review request up: the EFF's HTTPS Everywhere browser plugin. I would greatly appreciate any and all feedback that a reviewer might have.

Re: Looking for dnssec-triggerd alpha testers!

2011-09-17 Thread Carl Byington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 14:00 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: You can find source and package pre-releases at: ftp://ftp.xelerance.com/dnssec-trigger/ At least for Fedora 15: BuildRequires: glib-devel, gtk2-devel, ldns-devel and in %install mkdir -p

[pkgdb] perl-String-CRC32 ownership changed

2011-09-17 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package perl-String-CRC32 in Fedora devel is now owned by pghmcfc To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/perl-String-CRC32 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[pkgdb] perl-String-CRC32 ownership changed

2011-09-17 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package perl-String-CRC32 in Fedora 16 is now owned by pghmcfc To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/perl-String-CRC32 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[pkgdb] perl-String-CRC32 ownership changed

2011-09-17 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package perl-String-CRC32 in Fedora 15 is now owned by pghmcfc To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/perl-String-CRC32 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[pkgdb] perl-String-CRC32 ownership changed

2011-09-17 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package perl-String-CRC32 in Fedora 14 is now owned by pghmcfc To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/perl-String-CRC32 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[Bug 739293] New: perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp-65 is available

2011-09-17 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp-65 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739293 Summary: perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp-65 is available Product:

Broken dependencies: perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables

2011-09-17 Thread buildsys
perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables has broken dependencies in the F-16 tree: On x86_64: perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables-0.01-2.fc15.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.4) On i386: perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables-0.01-2.fc15.noarch requires

Broken dependencies: perl-NOCpulse-Gritch

2011-09-17 Thread buildsys
perl-NOCpulse-Gritch has broken dependencies in the F-16 tree: On x86_64: perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-1.fc16.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) On i386: perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-1.fc16.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) Please resolve this as soon as

Broken dependencies: perl-Unicode-CheckUTF8

2011-09-17 Thread buildsys
perl-Unicode-CheckUTF8 has broken dependencies in the F-16 tree: On x86_64: perl-Unicode-CheckUTF8-1.03-2.fc15.x86_64 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.4) On i386: perl-Unicode-CheckUTF8-1.03-2.fc15.i686 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.4) Please resolve this as soon as

Broken dependencies: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule

2011-09-17 Thread buildsys
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the F-16 tree: On x86_64: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) On i386: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) Please resolve this as soon as

Broken dependencies: perl-Test-Version

2011-09-17 Thread buildsys
perl-Test-Version has broken dependencies in the F-16 tree: On x86_64: perl-Test-Version-1.0.0-3.fc15.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.4) On i386: perl-Test-Version-1.0.0-3.fc15.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.4) Please resolve this as soon as possible. --

[pkgdb] perl-SVN-Simple ownership changed

2011-09-17 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package perl-SVN-Simple in Fedora 15 is now owned by lbazan To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/perl-SVN-Simple -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[pkgdb] perl-SVN-Simple ownership changed

2011-09-17 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package perl-SVN-Simple in Fedora 16 is now owned by lbazan To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/perl-SVN-Simple -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[perl-SVN-Simple/f15] changes

2011-09-17 Thread Luis Enrique Bazán De León
commit 09e26992dd0bdc8b20b59d87d128d2f28a58fbcb Author: Luis Bazan lbazan@BAKER-FEDORA.(none) Date: Sat Sep 17 08:07:37 2011 -0500 changes perl-SVN-Simple.spec |1 - 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-SVN-Simple.spec b/perl-SVN-Simple.spec index

[perl-SVN-Simple/f16] new tar

2011-09-17 Thread Luis Enrique Bazán De León
commit fa70f170fdff8376e44e23cde3671f418bd9cb89 Author: Luis Bazan lbazan@BAKER-FEDORA.(none) Date: Sat Sep 17 08:24:15 2011 -0500 new tar .gitignore |1 + sources|2 +- 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore index

[perl-SVN-Simple/f16] new release

2011-09-17 Thread Luis Enrique Bazán De León
commit 05a108ae9d1054b6bac80cbd7e78ca79a1d55a4e Author: Luis Bazan lbazan@BAKER-FEDORA.(none) Date: Sat Sep 17 08:23:29 2011 -0500 new release perl-SVN-Simple.spec |8 +--- 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-SVN-Simple.spec

[Bug 715745] FTBFS perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-1.fc16

2011-09-17 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=715745 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 738383] perl-Mozilla-CA: stop shipping own certificate bundle

2011-09-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 738599] perl-Mozilla-CA-20110914 is available

2011-09-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 734469] Upgrade to new upstream version

2011-09-17 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734469 --- Comment #11 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-09-17 18:01:28 EDT --- perl-Directory-Queue-1.2-1.el4

[Bug 734469] Upgrade to new upstream version

2011-09-17 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734469 --- Comment #9 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-09-17 17:59:44 EDT --- perl-Directory-Queue-1.2-1.el6

[Bug 734469] Upgrade to new upstream version

2011-09-17 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734469 --- Comment #10 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-09-17 18:00:25 EDT --- perl-Directory-Queue-1.2-1.el5

[Bug 734469] Upgrade to new upstream version

2011-09-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 734469] Upgrade to new upstream version

2011-09-17 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 734469] Upgrade to new upstream version

2011-09-17 Thread bugzilla
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Broken dependencies in EPEL - 2011-09-18

2011-09-17 Thread Fedora EPEL repoclosure
Your following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies: == The results in this summary consider Test Updates! == package: