Re: Heads up: bumping libnl to v3 in rawhide/F17 soon

On 11/08/2011 09:10 PM, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, At some point here I'm going to bump libnl to version 3 in rawhide. The libnl 1.1 we use today is way out of date and we want version 3 for the enhanced capabilities like bonding, bridging, vlan, etc. This *does* mean an API break, so packages wi

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

ons 2011-11-09 klockan 02:06 +0100 skrev Lennart Poettering: > That said, I am not particularly keen on having an inflation of subdirs > in /tmp created at early boot. I'd much prefer if we design our stuff in > a robust way so that directories are created when they are needed, but > without them

Re: Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit

On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 13:52 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 01:41:28PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Tomas Mraz wrote: > > > On the today's FESCo meeting we discussed the request to move forward > > > the conversion of the sysvinit scripts to system

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

On Tue, 08.11.11 09:07, Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) wrote: > > Yes, this works as it always did. We made sure that the behaviour > > change is as minimal as possible and all the accounting and > > discoverability is unchanged. > > > > Lennart > > One suggestion would be to create a direct

Re: New build of fedpkg (fedora-packager) coming to updates-testing / rawhide

On Nov 8, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Elio Maldonado wrote: > > I have a different failure. > $ fedpkg -v clone nspr > Cloning ssh://emaldon...@pkgs.fedoraproject.org/nspr > Running git clone ssh://emaldon...@pkgs.fedoraproject.org/nspr directly > on the tty > Cloning into nspr... > ssh_exchange_identifica

Re: New build of fedpkg (fedora-packager) coming to updates-testing / rawhide

On 11/02/2011 11:32 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Nov 2, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: >> I would appreciate even a quick patch as without fedpkg is unusable to >> me (and I guess I'm not the only one whose login != fas username). > There is a global fedpkg option to define your user

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

Daniel J Walsh wrote: > One suggestion would be to create a directory in /tmp at early boot. > /tmp/.systemd Which would only have root only access. That seems like it may be a good idea, but please drop the dot. Why would that directory need to be hidden? Björn Persson signature.asc Descript

Re: Heads up: bumping libnl to v3 in rawhide/F17 soon

On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 22:21 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > On 11/08/2011 06:10 PM, Dan Williams wrote: > > Hi, > > > > At some point here I'm going to bump libnl to version 3 in rawhide. The > > libnl 1.1 we use today is way out of date and we want version 3 for the > > enhanced capabilities like

Re: Review(s) swap - sugar activities

On 11/08/2011 09:29 PM, Thibault North wrote: > Hello, > > On November 8, 2011 11:22:24 AM Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: >> [...] >> >> well, I'm kinda busy with exams at the uni and I'll be free again >> after the first week of December. I'm ok with your suggestion, but the >> only problem is it is on

Re: Heads up: bumping libnl to v3 in rawhide/F17 soon

On 11/08/2011 06:10 PM, Dan Williams wrote: > Hi, > > At some point here I'm going to bump libnl to version 3 in rawhide. The > libnl 1.1 we use today is way out of date and we want version 3 for the > enhanced capabilities like bonding, bridging, vlan, etc. This *does* - does it mean NM in F17

Code of Conduct policies marked official

Greetings all, As one of its tasks the Community Working Group[1]_ wrote a Code of Conduct policy for Fedora[2]_ [3]_ that tries to give some expectations of how Fedora Contributors should behave to be able to communicate in ways that make each other happier and more productive rather than less.

Re: Review(s) swap - sugar activities

Hello, On November 8, 2011 11:22:24 AM Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: > [...] > > well, I'm kinda busy with exams at the uni and I'll be free again > after the first week of December. I'm ok with your suggestion, but the > only problem is it is only after the first week of December that I can > procee

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 02:47:02AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 07.11.11 16:08, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 15:42 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > On 11/07/2011 03:38 PM, Matej Cepl

Re: why do I need colord?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On 11/8/11 1:59 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: >>> >>> On a server like that, you won't have cups installed, so nothing will be >>> pulling in colord.  Whereas if you _do_ have cups installe

Re: why do I need colord?

On 11/8/11 1:59 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: >> On a server like that, you won't have cups installed, so nothing will be >> pulling in colord. Whereas if you _do_ have cups installed, because it's a >> print server, then you might like very much

Re: Heads up: bumping libnl to v3 in rawhide/F17 soon

On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 12:52 -0600, Dan Williams wrote: > It certainly has a different soname, so yeah, we can have a -compat > package. But that would still mean a ton of stuff busted for rebuilds > while packages get fixed up. A few upstream packages already work with > libnl2, and the delta bet

Re: why do I need colord?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Dan Williams wrote: > On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 18:08 +, Peter Robinson wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: >> > On 11/8/11 12:09 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> >> 2011/11/8 Richard Hughes: >> >>> 2011/11/7 Michał Piotrowski: >> Out

Re: why do I need colord?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On 11/8/11 1:08 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> Yea, but a lot of people don't have those either. I have around 5K >> servers in DCs with not a single printer or scanner in site. The vast >> majority of the 4 million odd XOs out there while they

Re: why do I need colord?

On 11/8/11 1:08 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > Yea, but a lot of people don't have those either. I have around 5K > servers in DCs with not a single printer or scanner in site. The vast > majority of the 4 million odd XOs out there while they have a screen > don't have a printer or scanner anywhere i

Re: why do I need colord?

On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 18:08 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > > On 11/8/11 12:09 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > >> 2011/11/8 Richard Hughes: > >>> 2011/11/7 Michał Piotrowski: > Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my sys

Re: Heads up: bumping libnl to v3 in rawhide/F17 soon

On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 13:05 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Dan Williams (d...@redhat.com) said: > > I believe libnl3 *might* be parallel installable; I've had conversations > > with tgraf about how to make it so. I'll investigate once the upstream > > git repo comes back online. In the past the

Re: why do I need colord?

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 18:08:49 + Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > > On 11/8/11 12:09 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > >> 2011/11/8 Richard Hughes: > >>> 2011/11/7 Michał Piotrowski: > Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my >

Re: why do I need colord?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On 11/8/11 12:09 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> 2011/11/8 Richard Hughes: >>> 2011/11/7 Michał Piotrowski: Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system? >>> >>> Checkout http://www.freedesktop.org/software/colord/ f

Re: Self Introduction

I've just packaged the great Zukitwo themefor Gnome Shell and submitted it for review (here's the review request on Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=752169 ). Please let me know what you think about it. *I'm still seekin

Re: Heads up: bumping libnl to v3 in rawhide/F17 soon

Dan Williams (d...@redhat.com) said: > I believe libnl3 *might* be parallel installable; I've had conversations > with tgraf about how to make it so. I'll investigate once the upstream > git repo comes back online. In the past the problem was mainly with the > devel package and the location of t

Re: why do I need colord?

On 11/8/11 12:09 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > 2011/11/8 Richard Hughes: >> 2011/11/7 Michał Piotrowski: >>> Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system? >> >> Checkout http://www.freedesktop.org/software/colord/ for details about >> the project. > > I know what colord is i

Re: Heads up: bumping libnl to v3 in rawhide/F17 soon

On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 12:41 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Dan Williams (d...@redhat.com) said: > > At some point here I'm going to bump libnl to version 3 in rawhide. The > > libnl 1.1 we use today is way out of date and we want version 3 for the > > enhanced capabilities like bonding, bridging

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

On 11/08/2011 02:22 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/08/2011 06:06 PM, Stijn Hoop wrote: >> > >> > Right, I assumed that this would be implemented for every user != root >> > (basically). In other words, also for normal local users. > Why is that not part of the proposal? It'd break things. At

Re: Heads up: bumping libnl to v3 in rawhide/F17 soon

Dan Williams (d...@redhat.com) said: > At some point here I'm going to bump libnl to version 3 in rawhide. The > libnl 1.1 we use today is way out of date and we want version 3 for the > enhanced capabilities like bonding, bridging, vlan, etc. This *does* > mean an API break, so packages will ne

Heads up: bumping libnl to v3 in rawhide/F17 soon

Hi, At some point here I'm going to bump libnl to version 3 in rawhide. The libnl 1.1 we use today is way out of date and we want version 3 for the enhanced capabilities like bonding, bridging, vlan, etc. This *does* mean an API break, so packages will need to be updated for libnl3. The majorit

Re: why do I need colord?

2011/11/8 Richard Hughes : > 2011/11/7 Michał Piotrowski : >> Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system? > > Checkout http://www.freedesktop.org/software/colord/ for details about > the project. I know what colord is intended for and I think this is really cool for deskto

Re: New build of fedpkg (fedora-packager) coming to updates-testing / rawhide

On Nov 8, 2011, at 2:22 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > I could not update fedpkg, seems to be conflicting with fedora-packager: > Error: Package: fedora-packager-0.5.9.2-2.fc16.noarch (@fedora) > Requires: fedpkg = 0.5.9.2-2.fc16 > Removing: fedpkg-0.5.9.2-2.fc16.noarch (@fe

Re: [Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 16.

Hi, > Fedora 16 is not science fiction. It is here right now: > http://get.fedoraproject.org Hmm, no jigdo downloads any more? cheers, Gerd -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Review(s) swap - sugar activities

Hello Thibault, On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Thibault North wrote: > On November 5, 2011 12:00:09 PM Kalpa Pathum Welivitigoda wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Folloing are few sugar activities that I have packaged. They need to >> be reviewed. Anyone interested in reviewing them all, some or one? >> >>

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 10:50 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > > Why not simply open bugs to have apps use /var/run/ ? > > When program A uses library B which uses library C which uses library > D which creates a temporary file, we don't want to mo

Re: why do I need colord?

2011/11/7 Michał Piotrowski : > Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system? Checkout http://www.freedesktop.org/software/colord/ for details about the project. Richard. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/d

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/08/2011 02:35 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: > Dne 7.11.2011 22:12, Matthew Garrett napsal(a): >> Having some public discussion of a potentially contentious >> feature is a great way to help fesco make decisions. I'm >> personally in favour of that happen

Reminder: Fedora 14 end of life on 2011-12-08

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings. This is a reminder email about the end of life process for Fedora 14. Fedora 14 will reach end of life on 2011-12-08, and no further updates will be pushed out after that time. Additionally, with the recent release of Fedora 16, no new p

[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 16.

The Fedora Project is pleased to announce the release of Fedora 16 ("Verne"). Fedora is a leading-edge, free and open source operating system that continues to deliver innovative features to many users, with a new release about every six months. Fedora 16 brings exciting new features for deskt

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/08/2011 01:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 04:48 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Adam Williamson wrote: >>> It seems like a similar bug has come up before in clamav: >>> >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573191

Re: Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit

On 11/08/2011 07:53 PM, Tomas Mraz wrote: > This is still very debatable as it means any update to the unit file in > the package will not be reflected on the system anymore. Not if you use .include https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd#How_do_I_customize_a_unit_file.2F_add_a_custom_unit_file.3F

Re: Broken dependencies: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule

On 11/08/2011 01:08 PM, build...@fedoraproject.org wrote: > perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: > On x86_64: > perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires > perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) > On i386: > perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requ

Re: Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit

On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 12:37 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 11/08/2011 12:04 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Yupp, newer versions might want to use /run instead of /var/run, and > > drop all references to syslog.target. But then again, this is not key, > > as nothing breaks if they do

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

On 11/08/2011 06:06 PM, Stijn Hoop wrote: > > Right, I assumed that this would be implemented for every user != root > (basically). In other words, also for normal local users. Why is that not part of the proposal? Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedorapr

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/07/2011 08:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 07.11.11 19:15, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote: > >> Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering >> said: >>> Yes, since they are created as subdirectories of the real / >>> with mkdtemp()

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/07/2011 10:48 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: >> It seems like a similar bug has come up before in clamav: >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573191 > > This issue affects many JITs. The WebKit JIT is affected to

rawhide report: 20111108 changes

Compose started at Tue Nov 8 08:17:37 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 4ti2-1.3.2-7.fc17.1.x86_64 requires libgmp.so.3()(64bit) 1:anerley-0.3.0-5.fc17.i686 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.15 1:anerley-0.3.0-5.fc17.i6

Re: Review(s) swap - sugar activities

On November 5, 2011 12:00:09 PM Kalpa Pathum Welivitigoda wrote: > Hello, > > Folloing are few sugar activities that I have packaged. They need to > be reviewed. Anyone interested in reviewing them all, some or one? > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741494 > https://bugzilla.redhat.

Re: Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit

On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 01:41:28PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Tomas Mraz wrote: > > On the today's FESCo meeting we discussed the request to move forward > > the conversion of the sysvinit scripts to systemd units in Fedora 17. > > > > The packages which ship sysvinit

Re: Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Tomas Mraz wrote: > On the today's FESCo meeting we discussed the request to move forward > the conversion of the sysvinit scripts to systemd units in Fedora 17. > > The packages which ship sysvinit script but do not ship systemd unit > according to the Fedora packa

Re: Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit

On 11/08/2011 12:04 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Yupp, newer versions might want to use /run instead of /var/run, and > drop all references to syslog.target. But then again, this is not key, > as nothing breaks if they do. This is such a large scale change that it's better to make them future

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:33:00 +0100 Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 08.11.11 13:31, Stijn Hoop (st...@sandcat.nl) wrote: > > > > Well, that way attackers might still be able fool the admin: i.e. > > > he could create a directory with a service name and some > > > randomized suffix and the admi

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

On Tue, 08.11.11 13:31, Stijn Hoop (st...@sandcat.nl) wrote: > > Well, that way attackers might still be able fool the admin: i.e. he > > could create a directory with a service name and some randomized > > suffix and the admin might blindly believe that this directory > > belongs to the service,

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 12:55:31 +0100 Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 07.11.11 21:53, Gregory Maxwell (gmaxw...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Lennart Poettering > > wrote: > > > If run on the main namespace all they see is that the files are > > > in some randomized su

Re: Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit

On Mon, 07.11.11 21:14, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" (johan...@gmail.com) wrote: > On 11/07/2011 07:41 PM, Tomas Mraz wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 10:35 -0900, Jef Spaleta wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Tomas Mraz wrote: > >>> Eventual blocking of the packages that violate this Fedor

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

On Mon, 07.11.11 21:53, Gregory Maxwell (gmaxw...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > If run on the main namespace all they see is that the files are in some > > randomized subdir of /tmp, instead of /tmp itself. > > Is the randomization required?

Re: why do I need colord?

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:53:58 +0100, MP (Michał) wrote: > 2011/11/8 Kevin Kofler: > > Michał Piotrowski wrote: > >> Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system? > > > > Try "yum remove colord" and see what it wants to remove (and probably say > > "no" if it's anything importa

Re: New build of fedpkg (fedora-packager) coming to updates-testing / rawhide

On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 17:23 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > For f15 through rawhide and epel 6 there is a new update coming for fedpkg > > (part of fedora-packager). > > > > This build is a pretty major rewrite to make use of a shared pyrpkg > >

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > Why not simply open bugs to have apps use /var/run/ ? When program A uses library B which uses library C which uses library D which creates a temporary file, we don't want to modify the API of all of them to pass from A to D. Mirek -- deve

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 09:43 +0100, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > Good luck then. Thank you. Three words of hope: nautilus spatial mode. :-) -- Bojan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 09:31 +1100, Bojan Smojver wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 14:33 +0100, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > You won't be able to convince Gnome3 zealots. > > That's a bit harsh, I think. They are just very impressionable folk. :-) > > > Believe me, a lot of people tried. > > I would l