Re: C++ ABI rebuilds for rawhide too?

2012-02-29 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 02/28/2012 09:18 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Are the same packages going to get automatically rebuilt in rawhide as well as f17? Btw, does anybody have a pointer to that ABI breakage in gcc 4.7 for c++ (i.e., was it an inadvertent breakage, or is there a planned incompatibility for GCC

Re: C++ ABI rebuilds for rawhide too?

2012-02-29 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 09:38:58AM +0100, Stephan Bergmann wrote: On 02/28/2012 09:18 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Are the same packages going to get automatically rebuilt in rawhide as well as f17? Btw, does anybody have a pointer to that ABI breakage in gcc 4.7 for c++ (i.e., was it an

Re: C++ ABI rebuilds for rawhide too?

2012-02-29 Thread Dan Horák
Stephan Bergmann píše v St 29. 02. 2012 v 09:38 +0100: On 02/28/2012 09:18 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Are the same packages going to get automatically rebuilt in rawhide as well as f17? Btw, does anybody have a pointer to that ABI breakage in gcc 4.7 for c++ (i.e., was it an inadvertent

Re: C++ ABI rebuilds for rawhide too?

2012-02-29 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 09:50:06AM +0100, Dan Horák wrote: Stephan Bergmann píše v St 29. 02. 2012 v 09:38 +0100: On 02/28/2012 09:18 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Are the same packages going to get automatically rebuilt in rawhide as well as f17? Btw, does anybody have a pointer to

Orphaning pyusb

2012-02-29 Thread Tim Waugh
I don't have the time to maintain pyusb, and it isn't used by any other package I maintain. $ repoquery -q --whatrequires pyusb garmin-sync-0:0.3-4.fc16.noarch nxt_python-0:0.7-8.fc15.noarch Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list

Re: F17 x86_64 composes

2012-02-29 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 22:16 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 16:37 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: Noticed that x86_64 tree is still NOT installable, as in no boot.iso or anything. Is this going to remain that way for awhile? Is there a reason you can't use the Alpha

Re: DHCPv6 *still* broken for F17 alpha

2012-02-29 Thread Tore Anderson
* Paul Wouters Can we please address the following bug that is almsot two years old. This bug causes long delays for people enabling IPV6, and causes Fedora to not get any connectivity on IPv6 only networks, unless you disable/reconfigure ip6tables manually I find the fact that this bug is

Re: Apple will use LLVM

2012-02-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Somewhat relevant here: http://clang.debian.net/ Debian's attempt to recompile the whole distro with clang, and a good summary of the problems, although no analysis of performance so far. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-top is 'top'

Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Neal Becker
I think he's got a point http://www.osnews.com/story/25659/Torvalds_requiring_root_password_for_mundane_things_is_quot_moronic_quot_ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread drago01
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: I think he's got a point http://www.osnews.com/story/25659/Torvalds_requiring_root_password_for_mundane_things_is_quot_moronic_quot_ Yeah but last time we tried this in fedora it got flamefested so we had to revert. --

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Emanuel Rietveld
On 02/29/2012 01:15 PM, drago01 wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Neal Beckerndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: I think he's got a point http://www.osnews.com/story/25659/Torvalds_requiring_root_password_for_mundane_things_is_quot_moronic_quot_ Yeah but last time we tried this in fedora it

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il 29 febbraio 2012 13:02, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com ha scritto: I think he's got a point http://www.osnews.com/story/25659/Torvalds_requiring_root_password_for_mundane_things_is_quot_moronic_quot_ FWIW, date/time and network require no authentication (including system-wide things like

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Mark Bidewell
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Emanuel Rietveld codehot...@gmail.comwrote: On 02/29/2012 01:15 PM, drago01 wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Neal Beckerndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: I think he's got a point http://www.osnews.com/story/**25659/Torvalds_requiring_root_**

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 01:41:52PM +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote: PS: it would be useful to have some GUI tool to configure PolicyKit. Everytime I clean my system I have to dig through dozens of manual pages just to get virt-manager without a password for my user. Once upon a time, there

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Camilo Mesias
Hi, On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Giovanni Campagna scampa.giova...@gmail.com wrote: Il 29 febbraio 2012 13:02, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com ha scritto: I think he's got a point http://www.osnews.com/story/25659/Torvalds_requiring_root_password_for_mundane_things_is_quot_moronic_quot_

Re: Apple will use LLVM

2012-02-29 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:18:34AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Somewhat relevant here: http://clang.debian.net/ Debian's attempt to recompile the whole distro with clang, and a good summary of the problems, although no analysis of performance so far. Problems include the fact that

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Chris Evich
On 02/29/2012 07:46 AM, Mark Bidewell wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Emanuel Rietveldcodehot...@gmail.comwrote: On 02/29/2012 01:15 PM, drago01 wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Neal Beckerndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: I think he's got a point

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Nikos Roussos
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Chris Evich cev...@redhat.com wrote: On 02/29/2012 07:46 AM, Mark Bidewell wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Emanuel Rietveldcodehot...@gmail.com** wrote: On 02/29/2012 01:15 PM, drago01 wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Neal

Re: Orphaning pyusb

2012-02-29 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:19 AM, Tim Waugh twa...@redhat.com wrote: I don't have the time to maintain pyusb, and it isn't used by any other package I maintain. $ repoquery -q --whatrequires pyusb garmin-sync-0:0.3-4.fc16.noarch nxt_python-0:0.7-8.fc15.noarch Taken. Tim. */ -- devel

[Bug 798613] perl-MooseX-TrackDirty-Attributes-2.000 is available

2012-02-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=798613 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

File MooseX-TrackDirty-Attributes-2.000.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2012-02-29 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-MooseX-TrackDirty-Attributes: 2ea330570a2458b53010003e82bb4436 MooseX-TrackDirty-Attributes-2.000.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Giovanni Campagna scampa.giova...@gmail.com wrote: PS: it would be useful to have some GUI tool to configure PolicyKit. Everytime I clean my system I have to dig through dozens of manual pages just to get virt-manager without a password for my user.

Re: DHCPv6 *still* broken for F17 alpha

2012-02-29 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Tore Anderson t...@fud.no wrote: However, this is not the only problem related to IPv6. I just tested the F17 Alpha Live CD, and one particular egregious issue is that by default, the toggle «Require IPv4 addressing for this connection to complete» is enabled

Re: master branch still invokes build in f17-candidate??

2012-02-29 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 29.2.2012 06:05, Mathieu Bridon napsal(a): On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 05:31 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Kevin Koflerkevin.kof...@chello.at writes: Vít Ondruch wrote: If you say to Koji that it should checkout master at remote machine, build a SRPM etc, why the Koji can't

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread M A Young
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, drago01 wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: I think he's got a point http://www.osnews.com/story/25659/Torvalds_requiring_root_password_for_mundane_things_is_quot_moronic_quot_ Yeah but last time we tried this in fedora it got

Re: DHCPv6 *still* broken for F17 alpha

2012-02-29 Thread Tore Anderson
* Jerry James Interesting. I'm seeing kind of the inverse problem: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771130. Could that be related to the issues discussed in this thread? Hard to tell, without (preferably debug-level) logs. I have the same problem you're describing occur in

File MooseX-Storage-0.31.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2012-02-29 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-MooseX-Storage: bb31e6e5c0849960f618f9ef90c42dc3 MooseX-Storage-0.31.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-MooseX-Storage] update to 0.31

2012-02-29 Thread Iain Arnell
commit cb6d81ebf827f093dd8e7eae5b0ef470beeb52a6 Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com Date: Wed Feb 29 09:44:45 2012 -0700 update to 0.31 .gitignore |1 + perl-MooseX-Storage.spec | 11 +++ sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 5

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread David Malcolm
On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 07:02 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: I think he's got a point http://www.osnews.com/story/25659/Torvalds_requiring_root_password_for_mundane_things_is_quot_moronic_quot_ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeaturePolicyKit in Fedora 8 onwards, It was revamped in Fedora

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:15 AM, drago01 wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: I think he's got a point http://www.osnews.com/story/25659/Torvalds_requiring_root_password_for_mundane_things_is_quot_moronic_quot_ My example is mDNS being blocked in the

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 29, 2012, at 7:08 AM, Nikos Roussos wrote: Why not add by default the first user created (right after installation finishes) to administrative group and disable the root account? This is, is fact, how Apple has done things circa 1999 with Mac OS X. You can 'su' to root, you can

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Nelson Marques
The original thread on G+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/102150693225130002912/posts/1vyfmNCYpi5 Enjoy. 2012/2/29 David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com: On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 07:02 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: I think he's got a point

Re: F17, Apple, EFI boot, livecd-tools

2012-02-29 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 29.2.2012 08:36, Adam Williamson napsal(a): I think there is a parameter you can pass to entirely disable plymouth, but I forget what it is. rd.plymouth=0 plymouth.enable=0 The first is for dracut. The second disables starting of plymouth from the systemd units. Michal -- devel

[389-devel] please review ticket #291 - cannot use in sasl search filter mappings

2012-02-29 Thread Mark Reynolds
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/291 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/291/0001-Ticket-291-cannot-use-in-a-sasl-map-search-filter.patch Thanks, Mark -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-devel

Re: master branch still invokes build in f17-candidate??

2012-02-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On 2/28/12 12:58 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: If you say to Koji that it should checkout master at remote machine, build a SRPM etc, why the Koji can't determine the proper %{?dist} at remote machine? Why it takes the %{?dist} from local machine instead? It makes no sense. It might work for other

Re: master branch still invokes build in f17-candidate??

2012-02-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On 2/28/12 8:47 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: I was looking for a way to determine the behavior of the master branch (for the sake of dist values) without hitting the network, as that would break git's ability to work offline. The best I could come up with at the time this code was written was to

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, M A Young m.a.yo...@durham.ac.uk said: From what I remember permissions were opened up without making it clear this was happening and without an easy way of putting them back, which made things very difficult if you had good reasons for the permissions being locked down.

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Neal Becker
Nikos Roussos wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Chris Evich cev...@redhat.com wrote: On 02/29/2012 07:46 AM, Mark Bidewell wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Emanuel Rietveldcodehot...@gmail.com** wrote: On 02/29/2012 01:15 PM, drago01 wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:02

Re: [Fedora-r-devel-list] R-repo

2012-02-29 Thread José Matos
On 01/04/2012 08:43 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: Dear all, To the great despair of spot, I have started to build CRAN and Bioconductor :-) This time, I am trying to make things cleaner and more accessible. I just uploaded all the spec files on github:

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Scott Doty
On 02/29/2012 08:46 AM, David Malcolm wrote: On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 07:02 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: I think he's got a point http://www.osnews.com/story/25659/Torvalds_requiring_root_password_for_mundane_things_is_quot_moronic_quot_ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeaturePolicyKit in

Re: [Fedora-r-devel-list] R-repo

2012-02-29 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 19:21 +, José Matos wrote: After almost two months going on what is the outcome of this project? Well the structure is there and a number of rpms available. I have started on the update mechanism but I have only got around the first round. The spec are on github and I

Re: master branch still invokes build in f17-candidate??

2012-02-29 Thread Tom Lane
Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com writes: On 2/28/12 12:58 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: If you say to Koji that it should checkout master at remote machine, build a SRPM etc, why the Koji can't determine the proper %{?dist} at remote machine? Why it takes the %{?dist} from local machine instead? It

Re: master branch still invokes build in f17-candidate??

2012-02-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On 2/29/12 1:25 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Jesse Keatingjkeat...@redhat.com writes: On 2/28/12 12:58 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: If you say to Koji that it should checkout master at remote machine, build a SRPM etc, why the Koji can't determine the proper %{?dist} at remote machine? Why it takes the

Re: master branch still invokes build in f17-candidate??

2012-02-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 16:25:22 -0500, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: In the particular case here it was harmless, since I would've just gone and built the identical SRPM in f17 a bit later anyway, and (I trust) rawhide will inherit the new f17 package too. I believe rawhide still

Re: rawhide report: 20120229 changes

2012-02-29 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Rawhide Report rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: [emacs]        1:emacs-24.0.94-1.fc18.x86_64 requires libMagickWand.so.4()(64bit)        1:emacs-24.0.94-1.fc18.x86_64 requires libMagickCore.so.4()(64bit) A couple of my packages failed to be Rebuilt for c++ ABI

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 10:09 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:15 AM, drago01 wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: I think he's got a point

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 29, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 10:09 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: My example is mDNS being blocked in the Firewall by default *and* it requires a root password to unblocked it. Completely retarded. Except that mDNS is a real security issue (because

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 29.02.12 17:51, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote: On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 10:09 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:15 AM, drago01 wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: I think he's got a point

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 29.02.12 16:08, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: On Feb 29, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 10:09 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: My example is mDNS being blocked in the Firewall by default *and* it requires a root password to unblocked

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2012-03-01 at 00:17 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 29.02.12 17:51, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote: On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 10:09 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:15 AM, drago01 wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Neal Becker

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-29 Thread Jarosław Górny
Wiadomość napisana przez Bruno Wolff III w dniu 2012-02-27, o godz. 16:29: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 14:00:51 +, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/02/12 13:52, elison.ni...@gmail.com wrote: 4) Quit on single CTRL-C. Users expect an application to quit on pressing CTRL-C.

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il 29 febbraio 2012 23:51, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com ha scritto: On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 10:09 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:15 AM, drago01 wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: I think he's got a point

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-29 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Thu, 2012-03-01 at 00:34 +0100, Jarosław Górny wrote: 4) Quit on single CTRL-C. Users expect an application to quit on pressing CTRL-C. Reason to have this feature : Better user experience never used ctrl-c, normally use killall yum if required. Ctrl-Z and kill %1 normally do a

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2012-03-01 at 00:51 +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote: Il 29 febbraio 2012 23:51, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com ha scritto: On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 10:09 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:15 AM, drago01 wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Neal Becker

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 1 Mar 2012, Giovanni Campagna wrote: The same protections should be used, that is DNSSEC and end-to-end authentication (SSH, TLS). This still leaves the real mdns area unprotected, but this is to be expected, and it's just an UI issue (that could be resolved once network zones land).

Orphaning libinfinity

2012-02-29 Thread Ben Boeckel
Hi, I don't really have much to do with it anymore. Orphaned from Fedora 15 through devel. --Ben pgp4fWbnnBWel.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

[Bug 798613] New: perl-MooseX-TrackDirty-Attributes-2.000 is available

2012-02-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-MooseX-TrackDirty-Attributes-2.000 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=798613 Summary: perl-MooseX-TrackDirty-Attributes-2.000 is

[Bug 798613] perl-MooseX-TrackDirty-Attributes-2.000 is available

2012-02-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=798613 --- Comment #1 from Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com 2012-02-29 08:38:29 EST --- This upgrade requires not-yet-packaged