Re: phoronix benchmarks ext4 vs. btrfs

2012-03-08 Thread Matthias Runge
On 09/03/12 08:13, Chris Murphy wrote: > OK well if I'm going to use real files, and I don't want disk read > performance to be a factor in this, I kinda need to put the source > files into a ramdisk. So if it's 3x of cache, out of 7.4G free, a 6G > ramdisk would be at least 3x that of what remains

Re: phoronix benchmarks ext4 vs. btrfs

2012-03-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 9, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: > On 09/03/12 07:43, Adam Williamson wrote: >> Don't file transfers get cached and return to a console as 'complete' >> long before the data is ever written, sometimes? > > I've learned a long time ago, if you want to get near real numbers, you

Re: phoronix benchmarks ext4 vs. btrfs

2012-03-08 Thread Matthias Runge
On 09/03/12 07:43, Adam Williamson wrote: > Don't file transfers get cached and return to a console as 'complete' > long before the data is ever written, sometimes? I've learned a long time ago, if you want to get near real numbers, you have to write data at least three times larger than memory si

Re: phoronix benchmarks ext4 vs. btrfs

2012-03-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 8, 2012, at 11:43 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 22:19 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: >> I'm not sure how useful 'time' is as a benchmark for file copies. > > Don't file transfers get cached and return to a console as 'complete' > long before the data is ever written, somet

Re: phoronix benchmarks ext4 vs. btrfs

2012-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 22:19 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > I'm not sure how useful 'time' is as a benchmark for file copies. Don't file transfers get cached and return to a console as 'complete' long before the data is ever written, sometimes? I'm pretty sure you sometimes hit the case where you co

Re: [Test-Announce] Test Days tomorrow (03-07) and Thursday (03-08)

2012-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 17:50 +0100, Alan Pevec wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Thursday is OpenStack Test Day[2]. > > > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-08_OpenStack_Test_Day > > You can also join Openstack testing today on your current trusty

Re: root password considered harmful, and other security policies. (was Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 15:37 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: > >>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Privilege_escalation_policy > > > > ...except that the primary author of that document told me this month > > that it is only a draft and can be ignore

[Test-Announce] 2012-03-09 @ 17:00 UTC - F17 Beta Blocker Bug Review #2

2012-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
# F17 Beta Blocker Review meeting #1 # Date: 2012-03-09 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (12:00 EST, 09:00 PST) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net It's that time again! The second F17 beta blocker bug review meeting will be this Friday at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers. We'll be running thro

Re: phoronix benchmarks ext4 vs. btrfs

2012-03-08 Thread Chris Murphy
I'm not sure how useful 'time' is as a benchmark for file copies. But that's what I used getting copy time for a folder containing 325 ~7.2MB files (DNGs) totaling 2.3G. First I copied the files to tmpfs, and made all copies from that to the destination. Destination device and partition is alway

Rereview swaps: smb4k, need a reviewer.

2012-03-08 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 23:46 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > Hi, > I'd like that someone sponsor me, to reinsert smb4k in Fedora. > I have follow upstream and update the package to last stable version. > The .spec is just an update of previous version, so should be easy to > review , or is already r

Re: Summer coding idea

2012-03-08 Thread Buddhike Kurera
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Anuj More wrote: > Hello, > > I was thinking of porting something like AUR (Arch User Repository) to Fedora. > I have blogged about it, and any feedback about the feasibility, > technical issues, is appreciated. > > Link to blog post: > http://execat.blogspot.com/

Re: FAT and HFS/HFS+ file system resizing restored in parted-3.1

2012-03-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 3, 2012, at 1:27 AM, Jim Meyering wrote: > FYI, I released parted-3.1 yesterday, > >http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.parted.bugs/10790 > > In addition to pretty many bug fixes, > >This is to announce parted-3.1, a bug fix release that also reintroduces >a minimal subset

Re: Finding package dependencies in repository (was Re: Orphaning a couple of packages)

2012-03-08 Thread Eric Smith
I wrote: Is there a way to query the package database to find out what packages depend on a particular package (in this case, muParser)? I didn't see anything obvious. Vít Ondruch wrote: $ repoquery --whatrequires muParser Cool! I didn't even know of the existence of the repoquery tool, I

Re: [fedora-java] Roadmap for Java things in Fedora

2012-03-08 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On Mar 7, 2012 7:54 AM, "Stanislav Ochotnicky" wrote: > - Remove mention of maven2 in guidelines since all supported versions >have maven-3.x. Some other small cleanups as well perhaps Is there already a separate set of java guidelines for EPEL? If there isn't does this mean we should create

Re: User session printing

2012-03-08 Thread Jef Spaleta
2012/3/8 Miloslav Trmač : > Right... I just wanted to make sure that any potential work on user > session printing is not discouraged by adding requirements that are > not currently satisfied with the system daemon. Of course. That wasn't meant as stop energy. If those situations have a _least sur

Re: User session printing

2012-03-08 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Jef Spaleta wrote: > 2012/3/8 Miloslav Trmač : >> The lazy answer to both is "fail, or not, the same way as cups >> currently fails, or not" (in fact, could the session printing service >> simply be cups that treats the system instance as another remote >> server?).

Re: Roadmap for Java things in Fedora

2012-03-08 Thread Bill Nottingham
Aleksandar Kurtakov (akurt...@redhat.com) said: > I'm pretty sure that Bill ment dropping it from the various packages so gcj > is not brought on regular user machine, make packages noarch and etc. not to > drop gcj itself. If this was the question - gcj_support has been removed from > most of

Re: User session printing

2012-03-08 Thread Jef Spaleta
2012/3/8 Miloslav Trmač : > The lazy answer to both is "fail, or not, the same way as cups > currently fails, or not" (in fact, could the session printing service > simply be cups that treats the system instance as another remote > server?). If we were looking for the lazy answer, we'd just not bo

Re: User session printing

2012-03-08 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Jef Spaleta wrote: > 1) What if I've hopped networks since then and the print job that was > que'd was on a printer that was only visible on the original network? > > 2) What if I've hopped networks and the old network and the new > network have a printer at the sam

Re: User session printing

2012-03-08 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Tim Waugh (twa...@redhat.com) said: >> For a plain network printer, where the printer might not be able to >> accept the job while it's busy processing others, you might have to >> queue the job and retry it later.  So if you are doing that

Re: User session printing

2012-03-08 Thread Tim Waugh
On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 12:02 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Tim Waugh (twa...@redhat.com) said: > > For things like cloud printing, where the print server is a hosted > > service somewhere out in the Internet, I think the applications should > > be talking directly to it (via the print dialog). >

[Test-Announce] Announcing 389 Directory Server version 1.2.10.3 Testing

2012-03-08 Thread Rich Megginson
The 389 Project team is pleased to announce the release of 389-ds-base-1.2.10.3. No new features were added after alpha 8, just many bug fixes. There are also 389-adminutil, 389-admin, and 389-dsgw packages in Testing. NEW: EL6 support Beginning with RHEL 6.2, the 389-ds-base package is inc

Re: Apple will use LLVM

2012-03-08 Thread Roman Rakus
On 02/23/2012 05:32 PM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 05:26:25PM +0100, Roman Rakus wrote: On 02/22/2012 09:08 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 08:46:19AM +0100, Roman Rakus wrote: On 02/16/2012 05:33 PM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: For just -O3 or -O2 -ftree-vectorize

Re: [Test-Announce] Test Days tomorrow (03-07) and Thursday (03-08)

2012-03-08 Thread Alan Pevec
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Thursday is OpenStack Test Day[2]. > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-08_OpenStack_Test_Day You can also join Openstack testing today on your current trusty Fedora 16 installation by using fresh Openstack Preview reposito

Re: Review Swap

2012-03-08 Thread Kalpa Welivitigoda
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 09:35:09AM +0530, Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: >> >> I would like for a review swap for the following packages. They are >> sugar activities. >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=795069 >> https://bugzil

[389-devel] please review ticket #308 - Automembership plugin deadlocks if data and config area mixed in the plugin configuration

2012-03-08 Thread Mark Reynolds
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/308 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/308/0001-Ticket-308-Automembership-plugin-fails-if-data-and-c.patch Thanks, Mark -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-devel

Re: ImageMagick update coming to 6.7.6-5 (.so.5)

2012-03-08 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 03/08/2012 04:18 AM, Pavel Alexeev wrote: 08.03.2012 01:16, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 03/06/2012 01:29 PM, Pavel Alexeev wrote: 05.03.2012 21:47, Sérgio Basto wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 21:11 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote: 05.03.2012 01:04, Sérgio Basto пишет: On Sun, 2012-03-04 at 19:33 +

Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-08 Thread Kay Sievers
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 17:21, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be >> honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user >> POV. >> > Just disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config. Which is exactly the use model of /etc we recommen

Re: FC17alpha, evolution, ati card, kernel 3.3.0-rc6 and me going crazy...

2012-03-08 Thread Peter A
On 03/08/2012 02:42 AM, Milan Crha wrote: On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 22:56 -0500, Peter A wrote: The issue effects only Evolution it seems - all other software I tried works fine (that's anything from firefox to libreoffice to gimp to ancient stuff like xv from an rpm built in 99). My desktop is KDE

Re: root password considered harmful, and other security policies. (was Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-03-08 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: >>    http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Privilege_escalation_policy > > ...except that the primary author of that document told me this month > that it is only a draft and can be ignored¹. It was actually approved by FESCo about two years ago: Given

Re: Roadmap for Java things in Fedora

2012-03-08 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - > From: "Andrew Haley" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 1:38:21 PM > Subject: Re: Roadmap for Java things in Fedora > > On 03/07/2012 04:34 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Any plans for sunsetting GCJ? > > That's an interesting que

Re: Review Swap

2012-03-08 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 09:35:09AM +0530, Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: > > I would like for a review swap for the following packages. They are > sugar activities. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=795069 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=768700 > I'll have a go :-) Could

Re: RPM 4.10 pre-release snapshots available

2012-03-08 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 03/07/2012 04:09 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: We're a bit late to our own party this year but rpm 4.10 pre-release version should be headed for rawhide in not too far future. In the meanwhile, in what is starting to become a tradition at this point, Fedora compatible [*] SRPM(s) are available a

[perl-Log-Any-Adapter] Upstream update.

2012-03-08 Thread corsepiu
commit 83530ec10d61ead4b4837147bebc6e47b675ec0c Author: Ralf Corsépius Date: Thu Mar 8 12:42:09 2012 +0100 Upstream update. - BR: perl(Carp). - Remove filter. .gitignore|2 +- perl-Log-Any-Adapter.spec | 13 - sources |2

File Log-Any-Adapter-0.07.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by corsepiu

2012-03-08 Thread corsepiu
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Log-Any-Adapter: 7851f73eb007b4f08750aff42b14c03c Log-Any-Adapter-0.07.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Re: Roadmap for Java things in Fedora

2012-03-08 Thread Andrew Haley
On 03/07/2012 04:34 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Any plans for sunsetting GCJ? That's an interesting question. It's still useful in a number of niche roles: for example, it's used in PDFTK. Also, it would have been very hard to bootstrap OpenJDK onto ARM without it. For that reason, it's on my

GTK+ 3.3.18 in F17

2012-03-08 Thread Matthias Clasen
Hey, I've build a big round of GNOME 3.3.91 updates, which include the gtk 3.3.18. This one is a bit more interesting than your average gtk release, since it includes touch and smooth scrolling support. If you experience breakage wrt to scrolling or more general input handling, I'd be interested

Re: FC17alpha, evolution, ati card, kernel 3.3.0-rc6 and me going crazy...

2012-03-08 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 22:56 -0500, Peter A wrote: > The issue effects only Evolution it seems - all other software I tried > works fine (that's anything from firefox to libreoffice to gimp to > ancient stuff like xv from an rpm built in 99). My desktop is KDE with > OpenGL rendering but most ef

Re: root password considered harmful, and other security policies. (was Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-03-08 Thread Tim Waugh
On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 11:05 -0800, Scott Doty wrote: > /etc/polkit-1/localauthority.conf.d/60-desktop-policy.conf > > Regarding this situation: turns out that if system-config-printer > doesn't establish proper contact with cups-pk-helper, it will fall back > to a mode that pops up the root passwo

Re: Finding package dependencies in repository (was Re: Orphaning a couple of packages)

2012-03-08 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 8.3.2012 06:07, Eric Smith napsal(a): Fabian Deutsch wrote: because I no longer use them I am orpahning dbh muParser scidavis I wrote: I use muParser in Meshlab. I'm not a C++ whiz (as witnessed by my not yet having figured out how to make Meshlab build properly with GCC 4.7, so I'm wa