Re: Chromium

2012-03-21 Thread Camilo Mesias
Hi, On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: which (right now) has precisely one other hit on Google. If you search for the demangled symbol, there are more references: v8::internal::I18NExtension::get() -Cam -- devel mailing list

Re: F17 latest yum update hoses grub.cfg, grubby?

2012-03-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: The yum update didn't update grub, but it did update the kernel. This is the first time you have done a kernel update via yum with the new grub2. grubby updates the grub.cfg file. It seems reasonable to consider this a grubby bug, yes?

Re: F17 latest yum update hoses grub.cfg, grubby?

2012-03-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 21, 2012, at 12:08 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: It seems reasonable to consider this a grubby bug, yes? Considering grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg produces the exact correct result, guess I'm not understanding the purpose of grubby. Are we in transition? Chris Murphy -- devel

Re: F17 latest yum update hoses grub.cfg, grubby?

2012-03-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 00:12 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 21, 2012, at 12:08 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: It seems reasonable to consider this a grubby bug, yes? Considering grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg produces the exact correct result, guess I'm not understanding the purpose

Re: H.264 in Fedora 17!

2012-03-21 Thread drago01
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote: [...] In the US instead patents have their root in a specific constitutional provision that says that this kind of monopoly can only be granted if it promotes innovation, this means there is no specific ban on software patents

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread David Tardon
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:52:58PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote: On 03/20/2012 12:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Now the ultra ridiculous: How about secondary architecture requirements demoted as-is to tertiary. And create substantially more aggressive requirements for secondary architecture (in

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 13:44 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: Now the ultra ridiculous: How about secondary architecture requirements demoted as-is to tertiary. And create substantially more aggressive requirements for secondary architecture (in which ARM would be placed), yet are not identical

Re: H.264 in Fedora 17!

2012-03-21 Thread Avi Alkalay
Meanwhile, my Fedora post-installation instructions are quite popular on the Internet: http://avi.alkalay.net/2007/06/fedora-post-installation-configurations.html It is link #3 on a fedora h.264 Google search and I use to keep it updated. On 20/03/2012, at 23:11, Rahul Sundaram

Re: H.264 in Fedora 17!

2012-03-21 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 22:29 -0400, Fedora Video wrote: In any case. This argument is moot. Fedora will distribute H.264 because it will be part of Firefox. No, it won't. You persist in misunderstanding this, though it has been explained to you. Firefox will

Re: H.264 in Fedora 17!

2012-03-21 Thread Matej Cepl
On 20.3.2012 23:27, Kevin Kofler wrote: Even YouTube has adopted WebM. What the original author ignored to include was link to http://brendaneich.com/2012/03/video-mobile-and-the-open-web/ which explains the position of MoFo. What he completely missed is bug

Re: Evolution + bogofilter

2012-03-21 Thread Milan Crha
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 10:17 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: Yes I understand it has to relearn. But it doesn't is the problem. I had to keep marking them as junk. Example, just reinstalled F16+updates on this very box. Started evo + the backup file as a restore, just as with F17. Soon as I

Re: H.264 in Fedora 17!

2012-03-21 Thread Matej Cepl
On 21.3.2012 03:41, Adam Williamson wrote: Firefox will take advantage of a system h264 codec where one is available. In the Fedora system, one will not be available. Fedora as shipped from get.fedoraproject.org won't contain H.264 codec. Which doesn't mean that my computer won't be able to

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Andrew Haley
On 03/20/2012 05:44 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jon Masters wrote: On 03/20/2012 11:52 AM, Peter Jones wrote: 7) it can't be a serious maintenance burdon due to build related issues. We need a couple of groups to sign off that builds are fast enough, not just on a full distro rebuild

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: I think you're looking at this in slightly the wrong way. Being a primary architecture isn't meant to be a benefit to the port - it's meant to be a benefit to Fedora. Adding arm to the PA list means you'll have to

Re: F17 latest yum update hoses grub.cfg, grubby?

2012-03-21 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne 21.3.2012 03:56, Adam Williamson napsal: Properly, it ought to be versioned grub2-2.00-0.1.beta2.fc17. (Or possibly grub2-2.00-0.1.~beta2.fc17, I really dunno what that tilde is for). The tilde is a debianism to mark a pre-release. dpkg understands version 42~foo as lower than 42. Michal

Re: /usr/share/applications weird error on koji

2012-03-21 Thread Nikos Roussos
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Alec Leamas leamas.a...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/19/2012 02:32 PM, Nikos Roussos wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Alec Leamas leamas.a...@gmail.comwrote: On 03/19/2012 12:50 PM, Nikos Roussos wrote: Hi, I'm trying to build a package. It's an

[perl-Test-Perl-Critic] Drop tests subpackage and clean up

2012-03-21 Thread Paul Howarth
commit fc4da8936ee6341a05420a021b5488d960df0417 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Wed Mar 21 10:59:45 2012 + Drop tests subpackage and clean up - Drop -tests subpackage (general lack of interest in this), but include them as documentation for the main package

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:41:33AM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: I think you're looking at this in slightly the wrong way. Being a primary architecture isn't meant to be a benefit to the port - it's meant to be a

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread drago01
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - Maybe it's worth to ask them (or look at for example Mer builds) what's the difference in build times. A few statistics from build.meego.com - using the OBS and building in qemu. These

Re: F17 latest yum update hoses grub.cfg, grubby?

2012-03-21 Thread Matthias Runge
The yum update didn't update grub, but it did update the kernel. This is the first time you have done a kernel update via yum with the new grub2. grubby updates the grub.cfg file. seems reproducible. My grub config is pretty empty, too. During update, I get something an error: grubby fatal

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Chris Tyler
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 05:04 -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - just a side note - I was told by an OpenSUSE on ARM person that they use x86 boxes with the user-space qemu virtual machine. It works quite fast, but still needs some hacking eg. in test-suites

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Peter Jones wrote: In yesterday's FESCo meeting I told you I'd make a list of specific issues I have with the current proposal for ARM as a primary archictecture. There are some places where I think the current

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread drago01
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Peter Jones wrote: In yesterday's FESCo meeting I told you I'd make a list of specific issues I have with the current proposal for ARM as a

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:12:25PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: How was this handled in the case of PPC? My understanding is that due to legal reasons the Fedora Project never officially provided access to PPC machines. There were a number of machines that users could get access to that were

Re: Mass deduplication and reassignment of ABRT bugs

2012-03-21 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 08:58:36PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: Here's another suspicious action: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/714364#3 Is anybody from the ABRT team watching these actions? The bot closed bug 714364 (gtk2) as duplicate of bug 701926 (rhythmbox) and did the same for

Re: Mass deduplication and reassignment of ABRT bugs

2012-03-21 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 02:56:40PM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Miroslav Lichvar wrote: If you find a suspicious action, please let us know at crash-catc...@lists.fedorahosted.org or file a ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/abrt. What about bugs that your script did not catch? Bug

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: 1) mechanisms need to be in place to get package maintainers access to fix     arm-specific bugs in their packages So we have a tracker bug at the moment. Is that sufficient? If so, we obviously should make sure

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:12:25PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: How was this handled in the case of PPC? My understanding is that due to legal reasons the Fedora Project never officially provided access to PPC

Re: Mass deduplication and reassignment of ABRT bugs

2012-03-21 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Miroslav Lichvar wrote: We don't try to deduplicate python bugs yet. (only by the abrt_hash field in bugzilla) Every dupe bug has the same abrt_hash in the Whiteboard: abrt_hash:01acb9e5787833cdbc03832f71e787ef531f1cd -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:41:33AM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: I think you're looking at this in slightly the wrong way. Being a primary

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 12:08 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: 2) Updates.  Submitting updates requires the entire build to be complete which means you have to wait for the slowest thing to finish.  Having to wait for 12 hours

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:41:33AM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: I think you're looking at this in slightly the wrong way. Being a

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - Maybe it's worth to ask them (or look at for example Mer builds) what's the difference in build times. A few statistics from build.meego.com - using the OBS and building in qemu. These

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:13 AM, David Tardon dtar...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:52:58PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote: On 03/20/2012 12:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Now the ultra ridiculous: How about secondary architecture requirements demoted as-is to tertiary. And create

Re: Mass deduplication and reassignment of ABRT bugs

2012-03-21 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 08:08:13AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Miroslav Lichvar wrote: We don't try to deduplicate python bugs yet. (only by the abrt_hash field in bugzilla) Every dupe bug has the same abrt_hash in the Whiteboard: abrt_hash:01acb9e5787833cdbc03832f71e787ef531f1cd Hm,

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 01:26:58PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: The expectation would be that the architecture maintainers have fixed everything before moving to being a primary architecture, so this should only be

Re: Mass deduplication and reassignment of ABRT bugs

2012-03-21 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 03/21/2012 02:32 PM, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 08:08:13AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Miroslav Lichvar wrote: We don't try to deduplicate python bugs yet. (only by the abrt_hash field in bugzilla) Every dupe bug has the same abrt_hash in the Whiteboard:

Re: Mass deduplication and reassignment of ABRT bugs

2012-03-21 Thread Nikola Pajkovsky
Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com writes: Miroslav Lichvar wrote: We don't try to deduplicate python bugs yet. (only by the abrt_hash field in bugzilla) Every dupe bug has the same abrt_hash in the Whiteboard: abrt_hash:01acb9e5787833cdbc03832f71e787ef531f1cd which is very, very odd.

Re: SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)

2012-03-21 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 13 marca 2012 21:59 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: 2012/2/21 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com: 2012/2/21 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: Hi, Is there a chance to get httpd 2.4 in Fedora 17 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.4.html ? This is

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Jones
On 03/21/2012 09:21 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: Except when people are forced to look at it, their solution was often ExcludeArch for PPC. As I said in the other thread, you cannot force people to care about an architecture they don't know or want to learn. That suggests we need a FTBFS-like

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: 1) mechanisms need to be in place to get package maintainers access to fix     arm-specific bugs in their packages So we have a tracker bug at the

[perl-Test-Perl-Critic] Remove unused patch

2012-03-21 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 0a5b90bb2f3179fb463d66e196a77fce930ed142 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Wed Mar 21 13:59:13 2012 + Remove unused patch .gitignore |2 +- perl-Test-Perl-Critic-1.01-fixtest.patch | 21 - 2 files changed, 1

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/21/2012 09:21 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: Except when people are forced to look at it, their solution was often ExcludeArch for PPC.  As I said in the other thread, you cannot force people to care about an architecture they

Re: SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
2012/3/13 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: 2012/2/21 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com: 2012/2/21 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: Hi, Is there a chance to get httpd 2.4 in Fedora 17 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.4.html ? This is the first major release from a few

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/21/2012 09:21 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: Except when people are forced to look at it, their solution was often ExcludeArch for PPC.  As I said in the other thread, you cannot force people to care about an architecture they

Re: SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)

2012-03-21 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/21 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: 2012/3/13 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: 2012/2/21 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com: 2012/2/21 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: Hi, Is there a chance to get httpd 2.4 in Fedora 17 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.4.html

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 12:26 +, Peter Robinson wrote: No, we've never said that ever! But then there are a lot of desktops that run just fine without OpenGL. 3D really wasn't in a great state even in x86 until Fedora 15 with a lot of drivers only doing it partially or not at all, even now

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 13:32 +0100, drago01 wrote: Even though I disagree with Kevin that we should block on does not have 3D drivers .. OpenGL is imo even more important on ARM (non server systems) then on x86. A tablet or smartphone without hardware accelerated rendering is just useless

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 12:26 +, Peter Robinson wrote: No, we've never said that ever! But then there are a lot of desktops that run just fine without OpenGL. 3D really wasn't in a great state even in x86 until Fedora 15

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 02:28:10PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: What about all the other xorg-x11-drv* video cards, admittedly they're generally considered legacy but there are a lot that don't do 3D at all there. Of the hardware still produced, they're either things Adam listed as

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread drago01
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 13:32 +0100, drago01 wrote: Even though I disagree with Kevin that we should block on does not have 3D drivers .. OpenGL is imo even more important on ARM (non server systems) then on x86. A tablet or

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 13:32 +0100, drago01 wrote: Even though I disagree with Kevin that we should block on does not have 3D drivers .. OpenGL is imo even more important on ARM (non server systems) then on x86. A tablet or

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 02:28:10PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: What about all the other xorg-x11-drv* video cards, admittedly they're generally considered legacy but there are a lot that don't do 3D at all there.

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said: That's my point, I don't believe that working 3D should be a blocker to primary arch because like mainline it will likely come with both time and demand. Is llvmpipe not 'working'? (Admittedly, on low-power CPUs like ARM, it might be more of a

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread drago01
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said: That's my point, I don't believe that working 3D should be a blocker to primary arch because like mainline it will likely come with both time and demand. Is llvmpipe not

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 14:31 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 02:28:10PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: What about all the other xorg-x11-drv* video cards, admittedly they're generally considered legacy but there are a lot that don't do 3D at all there. Of the

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 10:38 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said: That's my point, I don't believe that working 3D should be a blocker to primary arch because like mainline it will likely come with both time and demand. Is llvmpipe not 'working'?

Fwd: Re: Release Notes Update

2012-03-21 Thread Paul W. Frields
From the docs@ list, FYI, in case someone has some time in which they can contribute to release notes for desktop, system daemons, web servers, or for that matter any other existing beats: - Forwarded message from John J. McDonough wb8...@arrl.net - On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 23:27 -0400,

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
Peter Jones (pjo...@redhat.com) said: In yesterday's FESCo meeting I told you I'd make a list of specific issues I have with the current proposal for ARM as a primary archictecture. There are some places where I think the current proposal fails to deal with some necessary aspects of becoming

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 01:27:04PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: All sorts of things can speed it up, most of the Fedora builders are currently loopback ext4 over NFS over 100Mb ethernet over USB. Not optimal. Just switching them to ext2 would save a ton of IO. The buildroots get regenerated

Re: F17 latest yum update hoses grub.cfg, grubby?

2012-03-21 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 20:30 -0700, John Reiser wrote: On 03/20/2012 06:24 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: After a yum update a few minutes ago, GRUB's kinda messed up. Anyone else? Yes, it happened to me, too, after booting an up-to-the-minute anaconda install DVD for _update_ (not fresh

Re: F17 latest yum update hoses grub.cfg, grubby?

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Jones
On 03/21/2012 02:27 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 00:12 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 21, 2012, at 12:08 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: It seems reasonable to consider this a grubby bug, yes? Considering grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg produces the exact correct

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 01:27:04PM +, Peter Robinson wrote:   All sorts of things can speed it up, most of the Fedora builders are   currently loopback ext4 over NFS over 100Mb ethernet over USB. Not   optimal. Just

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 14:31 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 02:28:10PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: What about all the other xorg-x11-drv* video cards, admittedly they're generally considered legacy

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 10:38 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said: That's my point, I don't believe that working 3D should be a blocker to primary arch because like mainline it will likely

File Wx-0.9905.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by spot

2012-03-21 Thread Tom Callaway
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Wx: 757f337a14869a3fdfa8ebd3444159b1 Wx-0.9905.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Wx] 0.9905

2012-03-21 Thread Tom Callaway
commit d69eb2b96252d3a54d531a551b37ecbb91a9d94e Author: Tom Callaway s...@fedoraproject.org Date: Wed Mar 21 11:29:39 2012 -0400 0.9905 .gitignore |1 + perl-Wx.spec |7 ++- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/.gitignore

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
So probably using Qemu could speed it up quite a lot. Also OBS offers quite a lot of flexibility to decouple arch builds, disable selected archs etc. But I'm not sure about the processes for chain builds, updates, how they make the builds consistent (if one arch fails)... All sorts

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Zach Brown
On 03/21/2012 10:58 AM, Dave Jones wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 01:27:04PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: All sorts of things can speed it up, most of the Fedora builders are currently loopback ext4 over NFS over 100Mb ethernet over USB. Not optimal. Just switching them to ext2

Re: H.264 in Fedora 17!

2012-03-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 09:55 +0100, Matej Cepl wrote: On 21.3.2012 03:41, Adam Williamson wrote: Firefox will take advantage of a system h264 codec where one is available. In the Fedora system, one will not be available. Fedora as shipped from get.fedoraproject.org won't contain H.264

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Peter Jones (pjo...@redhat.com) said: In yesterday's FESCo meeting I told you I'd make a list of specific issues I have with the current proposal for ARM as a primary archictecture. There are some places where I think

Re: F17 latest yum update hoses grub.cfg, grubby?

2012-03-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 11:20 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote: Dne 21.3.2012 03:56, Adam Williamson napsal: Properly, it ought to be versioned grub2-2.00-0.1.beta2.fc17. (Or possibly grub2-2.00-0.1.~beta2.fc17, I really dunno what that tilde is for). The tilde is a debianism to mark a

Re: /usr/share/applications weird error on koji

2012-03-21 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 19:10 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: The usual way to make this selectable is with a parameter for the package's configure script, something like --disable-desktop-update . These days, it seems like very few packages need this any more. I don't know if upstreams have

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 14:28 +, Peter Robinson wrote: So it's a little like saying we only support x86 chips from Intel, AMD, and VIA. Okay, yeah, maybe that's fair, but those are actually all there is to care about. What about all the other xorg-x11-drv* video cards, admittedly

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:32:04AM -0400, Zach Brown wrote: On 03/21/2012 10:58 AM, Dave Jones wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 01:27:04PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: All sorts of things can speed it up, most of the Fedora builders are currently loopback ext4 over NFS over 100Mb

Re: F17 latest yum update hoses grub.cfg, grubby?

2012-03-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 11:17 -0400, Peter Jones wrote: On 03/21/2012 02:27 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 00:12 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 21, 2012, at 12:08 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: It seems reasonable to consider this a grubby bug, yes? Considering

Re: /usr/share/applications weird error on koji

2012-03-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 12:51 +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote: I wrote a small patch to comment out this line and it worked just fine. I'll file a bug upstream. A patch to simply remove the update-desktop-database call is unlikely to be accepted upstream, as people building for themselves want the

[Bug 804420] perl-Wx-0.9905 is available

2012-03-21 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804420 --- Comment #1 from Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com 2012-03-21 12:13:23 EDT --- 0.9905 is in rawhide. -- Configure

[Bug 804420] perl-Wx-0.9905 is available

2012-03-21 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804420 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

rawhide report: 20120321 changes

2012-03-21 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Mar 21 08:15:05 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [HippoDraw] HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.i686 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.x86_64 requires python-numarray

Re: F17 bogus could not detect partitions error

2012-03-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 20, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Proposed as blocker, F17 Final. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=805272 Does anyone know how GRUB2 (bootloader+core, grub2-install, grub2-mkconfig) will behave in a case where there is a valid legacy MBR and a stale GPT remains

Re: Reminder. Please build ImageMagick dependencies until March 23

2012-03-21 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 03/21/2012 04:33 PM, Pavel Alexeev wrote: Hello All. As was announced before ImageMagick-6.7.5.6-3.fc17 now in build overrides. Please build your package against it (and answer there if it not so hard). 23 march I'll push one update for Fedora 17. -- With best wishes, Pavel Alexeev (aka

Re: Broken dependencies: parcellite

2012-03-21 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Mittwoch, den 21.03.2012, 12:52 + schrieb build...@fedoraproject.org: parcellite has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On i386: parcellite-1.0.2-0.1.rc5.fc17.i686 requires libpango-1.0.so.0()(64bit) parcellite-1.0.2-0.1.rc5.fc17.i686 requires

Re: Broken dependencies: parcellite

2012-03-21 Thread Thomas Spura
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 21.03.2012, 12:52 + schrieb build...@fedoraproject.org: parcellite has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On i386:       parcellite-1.0.2-0.1.rc5.fc17.i686 requires

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 03/21/2012 05:25 AM, Chris Tyler wrote: Fully-emulated actually fits into the Native Builds guideline, but it hasn't been economical to use this approach because there's no hardware support for ARM emulation on x86 (the way that there is hardware acceleration for x86 virtualization on x86)

Re: Reminder. Please build ImageMagick dependencies until March 23

2012-03-21 Thread Pavel Alexeev
21.03.2012 20:31, Marcela Mašláňová написал: On 03/21/2012 04:33 PM, Pavel Alexeev wrote: Hello All. As was announced before ImageMagick-6.7.5.6-3.fc17 now in build overrides. Please build your package against it (and answer there if it not so hard). 23 march I'll push one update for Fedora

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Jesse Keating
On 3/21/12 6:52 AM, Peter Jones wrote: On 03/21/2012 09:21 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: Except when people are forced to look at it, their solution was often ExcludeArch for PPC. As I said in the other thread, you cannot force people to care about an architecture they don't know or want to learn.

Re: F17 latest yum update hoses grub.cfg, grubby?

2012-03-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Peter Jones wrote: We definitely want to keep using grubby instead of running grub2-mkconfig and clobbering whatever's in your config file every time. *shrug* I think grubby makes for an increasingly cluttered grub.cfg. With the latest behavior I'm seeing with

[perl-IO-InSitu/f17] Initial import (#605674).

2012-03-21 Thread Bill Pemberton
Summary of changes: 42abd26... Initial import (#605674). (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Jesse Keating
On 3/21/12 10:36 AM, Brendan Conoboy wrote: The main place I see ARM emulation being useful is in allowing any packager with an x86 host to boot a simulated ARM host to resolve build failures in their package. That's not ideal- ideal is every package owner has an ARM system they can use, but

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 03/21/2012 06:26 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: Thanks Adam, this is the first real use case where speed of builds is important for something other than keeping the developer happy. Other points raised on the list are: 1. The nature of chainbuilds would feel slowed build times particularly.

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:07:57 -0400 (EDT) Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - Maybe it's worth to ask them (or look at for example Mer builds) what's the difference in build times. A few statistics from

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:12:58 -0400 Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/21/2012 09:21 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: Except when people are forced to look at it, their solution

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread drago01
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:07:57 -0400 (EDT) Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - Maybe it's worth to ask them (or look at for example Mer

Re: Reminder. Please build ImageMagick dependencies until March 23

2012-03-21 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 03/21/2012 11:42 AM, Pavel Alexeev wrote: 21.03.2012 20:31, Marcela Mašláňová написал: On 03/21/2012 04:33 PM, Pavel Alexeev wrote: Hello All. As was announced before ImageMagick-6.7.5.6-3.fc17 now in build overrides. Please build your package against it (and answer there if it not so

File IO-InSitu-0.0.2.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by wfp

2012-03-21 Thread Bill Pemberton
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-IO-InSitu: 69e55eda0c3d0e5597b88a9ccf9fbfc3 IO-InSitu-0.0.2.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-IO-InSitu] Initial import (#605674).

2012-03-21 Thread Bill Pemberton
commit 42abd2609be3ccfdd50e0907237849fa163624fd Author: Bill Pemberton wf...@virginia.edu Date: Wed Mar 21 13:05:24 2012 -0400 Initial import (#605674). .gitignore |1 + perl-IO-InSitu.spec | 83 +++ sources |1

Re: Reminder. Please build ImageMagick dependencies until March 23

2012-03-21 Thread Tom Callaway
On 03/21/2012 02:19 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 03/21/2012 11:42 AM, Pavel Alexeev wrote: 21.03.2012 20:31, Marcela Mašláňová написал: On 03/21/2012 04:33 PM, Pavel Alexeev wrote: Hello All. As was announced before ImageMagick-6.7.5.6-3.fc17 now in build overrides. Please build your

Re: Reminder. Please build ImageMagick dependencies until March 23

2012-03-21 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 03/21/2012 12:34 PM, Tom Callaway wrote: On 03/21/2012 02:19 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 03/21/2012 11:42 AM, Pavel Alexeev wrote: 21.03.2012 20:31, Marcela Mašláňová написал: On 03/21/2012 04:33 PM, Pavel Alexeev wrote: Hello All. As was announced before ImageMagick-6.7.5.6-3.fc17 now

Re: F17 latest yum update hoses grub.cfg, grubby?

2012-03-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 12:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Peter Jones wrote: We definitely want to keep using grubby instead of running grub2-mkconfig and clobbering whatever's in your config file every time. *shrug* I think grubby makes for an increasingly

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