Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 06/11/2012 05:55 PM, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: Excuse me, but people like him used to be our (Fedora's) target audience. Have a read at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base For voluntary Linux consumers who are computer-friendly and likely

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread drago01
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote: On 06/11/2012 05:55 PM, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: Excuse me, but people like him used to be our (Fedora's) target audience. Have a read at

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 06/12/2012 10:16 AM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: We do already exclude contributors for such dubious reasons Well you accuse other of not being able to read a wiki ... so please read what I wrote. excluding *users* for such dubious reasons . ...

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread drago01
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote: On 06/12/2012 10:16 AM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: We do already exclude contributors for such dubious reasons Well you accuse other of not being able to read a wiki ...

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 06/12/2012 12:58 PM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: The point is we have a target audience: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base Our desired users ARE contributors. We do have a mission as well: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview#Our_Mission

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread drago01
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote: On 06/12/2012 12:58 PM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: The point is we have a target audience: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base Our desired users ARE contributors.

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:57 AM, drago01 wrote: On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Chris Smart wrote: On 09/06/12 19:34, drago01 wrote: If Fedora does not implement some form of Secure Boot support, 100% of Fedora users will still be able to

[perl-Tie-EncryptedHash] Spec clean-up

2012-06-12 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 8b6af65f1b78743f6ebde9ff0d0bf1e3ef30f055 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Tue Jun 12 12:59:31 2012 +0100 Spec clean-up - Don't use macros for system commands - Don't need to remove empty directories from the buildroot - Use DESTDIR rather than

Deltas not being generated against updates for F17

2012-06-12 Thread Jonathan Dieter
See $subject. I'm assuming that this is because delta_dirs in the mash config doesn't include the updates repository, just the GA repository. Maybe this should be more clearly stated in http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/infra/docs/fedora-releases.txt, Step 4 (Enable Updates)? Jonathan

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Steve Clark
On 06/12/2012 08:10 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:57 AM, drago01 wrote: On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Chris Smart wrote: On 09/06/12 19:34, drago01 wrote: If Fedora does not implement some form of Secure Boot

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Steve Clark
On 06/12/2012 06:15 AM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Nicu Buculeinicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote: On 06/12/2012 12:58 PM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: The point is we have a target audience: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base

[perl-Crypt-Primes] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 8c56143601d0db26a200b78bbc94fb2611950395 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 15:01:42 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Crypt-Primes.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Crypt-Primes.spec

[Bug 831191] New: perl-MooseX-Types-DateTime-ButMaintained-0.15 is available

2012-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=831191 Bug ID: 831191 Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org Severity: unspecified Version: rawhide Priority: unspecified CC:

[Bug 831192] New: perl-Test-Smoke-1.52 is available

2012-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=831192 Bug ID: 831192 Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org Severity: unspecified Version: rawhide Priority: unspecified CC:

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Peter Jones
On 06/12/2012 08:10 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Due to my respect to your request, I thought about it for nearly 72 hours. I still stand behind what I said: People who are incapable of switching a BIOS setting, which might involve doing a simple web search beforehand, should better not touch any

[perl-rpm-build-perl] Adapt tests to perl 5.16

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit ae9446548c99ce81e5cf6d8232530f119befb1d6 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 15:58:06 2012 +0200 Adapt tests to perl 5.16 perl-rpm-build-perl.spec |4 ++ rpm-build-perl-0.80-Adapt-to-perl-5.16.0.patch | 36 2

[perl-No-Worries] Initial import (#830811).

2012-06-12 Thread mpaladin
commit 9316d41d8b528b52e65d431bdff045dccd0cfa03 Author: mpaladin massimo.pala...@gmail.com Date: Tue Jun 12 16:02:19 2012 +0200 Initial import (#830811). .gitignore |1 + perl-No-Worries.spec | 71 ++ sources |

File DBD-SQLite-1.37.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Šabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-DBD-SQLite: b8ac1c584befa63cd5ffc391b2366e84 DBD-SQLite-1.37.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Peter Jones
On 06/12/2012 09:00 AM, Steve Clark wrote: This is MS classic ploy against free software embrace and extend. First it will be it can be disabled then for windows 9 if you want to have approved hardware MS will require, like ARM, x86 secure boot can not be disabled and they will point to Fedora

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Jay Sulzberger
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote: On 06/12/2012 12:58 PM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: The point is we have a target audience:

[perl-Data-Random] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 5778fcddb7eae878e7bb50705ad44b5d801e1f26 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 17:03:24 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Data-Random.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Data-Random.spec b/perl-Data-Random.spec

[perl-XML-LibXSLT] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit bccfd4d20f252da868f315697ad0395c05e56884 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 17:03:23 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-XML-LibXSLT.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-XML-LibXSLT.spec b/perl-XML-LibXSLT.spec

[perl-Hash-MultiValue] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit fe06e08d640b4e7d26ed599b6a723096bea5dfef Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 17:03:27 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Hash-MultiValue.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Hash-MultiValue.spec

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Jay Sulzberger
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com wrote: On 06/12/2012 08:10 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Due to my respect to your request, I thought about it for nearly 72 hours. I still stand behind what I said: People who are incapable of switching a BIOS setting, which might involve doing

[perl-Archive-Zip] Specify all dependencies

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 85ff55e8899d82fd12959806bd2a407ec817291a Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 17:09:43 2012 +0200 Specify all dependencies perl-Archive-Zip.spec | 17 +++-- 1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Archive-Zip.spec

[perl-IPC-Run-SafeHandles] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit fe7904caa92f775b3de191be3809396f3dc079b4 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 17:09:50 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-IPC-Run-SafeHandles.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-IPC-Run-SafeHandles.spec

[perl-Module-Runtime] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit f7fd4fee1811f5e14442f0ab41d9d614715b33eb Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 17:09:55 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Module-Runtime.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Module-Runtime.spec

[perl-Time-Duration] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit d3ab6d5ac034dcec046ceac3724f352abd47ac3e Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 17:10:00 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Time-Duration.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Time-Duration.spec

[perl-Math-BigInt-GMP] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 720ce0a3ea62c786ae75c5a76973006835ff8c78 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 17:10:06 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Math-BigInt-GMP.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Math-BigInt-GMP.spec

[perl-Text-CSV_XS] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 748998640f8d6c95f372cbee3c166507f37bc922 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 17:10:11 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Text-CSV_XS.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Text-CSV_XS.spec b/perl-Text-CSV_XS.spec

[perl-Directory-Queue] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 61e8bf974dbfcb9a48da5840db41aa5cb9158167 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 17:11:06 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Directory-Queue.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Directory-Queue.spec

[perl-HTML-Form] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit c0ab93a0b288399d34dd5774dbefb6aa92682978 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 17:11:16 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-HTML-Form.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-HTML-Form.spec b/perl-HTML-Form.spec index

[perl-Class-Data-Inheritable] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 874d512f4896352e47c19ac10baecc06908ac6bd Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 17:11:15 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Class-Data-Inheritable.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Class-Data-Inheritable.spec

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com wrote: This seems like a pretty unlikely scenario. You have to disable secure boot to perform most kernel-level debugging operations in Windows 8. It'd alienate pretty much the entire OEM community for Windows add-on card drivers,

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mardi 12 juin 2012 à 10:58 -0400, Jay Sulzberger a écrit : On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: No because secure boot does not limit your freedom in *any* way. If you want to hack on the kernel or other low level stuff flip a switch in the firmware. It is

[perl-Test-Portability-Files] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit d6ba3794c134cc7e861276ea9e23dccb31c6feed Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 17:39:08 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Test-Portability-Files.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Test-Portability-Files.spec

[perl-HTML-Quoted] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 3a4934a27a1f234981a5b684b0b1750cfc99fba0 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 17:41:20 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-HTML-Quoted.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-HTML-Quoted.spec b/perl-HTML-Quoted.spec

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Steve Clark
On 06/12/2012 10:58 AM, Jay Sulzberger wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, drago01drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Nicu Buculeinicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote: On 06/12/2012 12:58 PM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: The point is we

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 10:17 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote: Of course we are missing that part *now*, there is no motherboard with UEFI and Secure Boot in the wild so we can take screenshots and publish them. Once

[perl-Convert-Binary-C] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 1edf230e455bd474905a25964b24d42aa4c1cf08 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 18:29:19 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Convert-Binary-C.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Convert-Binary-C.spec

[perl-HTML-TagCloud] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 3e0b4b762a3c96268fa994990586d6f5a1f2c030 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 18:29:34 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-HTML-TagCloud.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-HTML-TagCloud.spec

[perl-IPC-Run3] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 96bd42516bddadd845ff3af6bffdf60a8cbd5605 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 18:29:51 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-IPC-Run3.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-IPC-Run3.spec b/perl-IPC-Run3.spec index

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 11:08 -0400, Jay Sulzberger wrote: Let Fedora help bring to market better hardware. Do not agree that Microsoft should have the Hardware Root Key on just about all x86 style computers for sale next year. That tide still appears to be coming in despite your commands,

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread darrell pfeifer
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote: On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 11:08 -0400, Jay Sulzberger wrote: Let Fedora help bring to market better hardware. Do not agree that Microsoft should have the Hardware Root Key on just about all x86 style computers for

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Jay Sulzberger
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 11:08 -0400, Jay Sulzberger wrote: Let Fedora help bring to market better hardware. Do not agree that Microsoft should have the Hardware Root Key on just about all x86 style computers for sale next

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: You are, and that was being very un-excellent, so please refrain from it in future. I'm left wondering where your concern about being excellent to each other has been hiding throughout this thread, and where it was

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Tom Callaway
On 06/12/2012 01:11 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: Let me make this more clear: People in this thread have been saying that instructions can't be created because the hardware is not available to the public yet. However, the people working this stuff actually do have access to UEFI secureboot

Re: Deltas not being generated against updates for F17

2012-06-12 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi. On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:20:51 +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote See $subject. I'm assuming that this is because delta_dirs in the mash config doesn't include the updates repository, just the GA repository. I'm not sure I follow you. I do get deltas for my F17 updates. -- The Board views the

Re: Deltas not being generated against updates for F17

2012-06-12 Thread drago01
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Ralf Ertzinger fed...@camperquake.de wrote: Hi. On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:20:51 +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote See $subject.  I'm assuming that this is because delta_dirs in the mash config doesn't include the updates repository, just the GA repository. I'm not

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jay Sulzberger (j...@panix.com) said: There is here no irrestible tide. Rather, Fedora is jumping to surrender before engagement. Secret discussions with Microsoft is perhaps part of this engagement. But such discussion is not the whole battle. Fedora should call a conference to

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Denis Arnaud
Though most of you already certainly know about it, Linus Torvalds has expressed his point of view about that story: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/linus-torvalds-on-windows-8-uefi-and-fedora/11187 Kinds regards D -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: No offense, but you seem to have a very unusual idea about how much leverage Fedora has anywhere. Why would hardware vendors listen to a community distribution that they never preinstall, have no plans to preinstall, and

Re: Deltas not being generated against updates for F17

2012-06-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
This was an issue in the f17-updates and f17-updates-testing mash configs that bodhi was using. I just pushed out an updated setting that should fix it. Sorry we missed it at final. Basically we had everything in place, but it was waiting for the actual final repos to exist and be open. It

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Peter Jones
On 06/12/2012 01:48 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: No offense, but you seem to have a very unusual idea about how much leverage Fedora has anywhere. Why would hardware vendors listen to a community distribution that they

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Peter Jones
On 06/12/2012 01:11 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: You are, and that was being very un-excellent, so please refrain from it in future. I'm left wondering where your concern about being excellent to each other has been

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com wrote: Quit trying to have it both ways, Greg. If we get vendors to let us ship a Red Hat key - and to be clear, it was a *Red Hat* key that's been offered to be shipped - then we're putting forked projects and stuff in a

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Peter Jones
On 06/12/2012 11:33 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com wrote: This seems like a pretty unlikely scenario. You have to disable secure boot to perform most kernel-level debugging operations in Windows 8. It'd alienate pretty much the

Re: Deltas not being generated against updates for F17

2012-06-12 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 11:58 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: This was an issue in the f17-updates and f17-updates-testing mash configs that bodhi was using. I just pushed out an updated setting that should fix it. Sorry we missed it at final. Basically we had everything in place, but it was

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Peter Jones
On 06/12/2012 01:46 PM, Denis Arnaud wrote: Though most of you already certainly know about it, Linus Torvalds has expressed his point of view about that story: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/linus-torvalds-on-windows-8-uefi-and-fedora/11187 Yes, though he's wrong on some facts. Not

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com wrote: No, they literally cannot do that. Having a special debugging key that chains to a CA key that's in the key database (DB), which would allow the ability to do kernel debugging activities which could, for example, write to

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Jay Sulzberger
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Jay Sulzberger (j...@panix.com) said: There is here no irrestible tide. Rather, Fedora is jumping to surrender before engagement. Secret discussions with Microsoft is perhaps part of this engagement. But such

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Tom Callaway
On 06/12/2012 04:16 PM, Jay Sulzberger wrote: I cannot guarantee that any particular negotiation with Lenovo, nor with Dell, will succeed. But certainly negotiating only with ourselves, without even trying to negotiate with Lenovo/Dell, will result in a loss for us. I'm not sure why you are

[389-devel] please review ticket #388 - Improve replication agreement status messages

2012-06-12 Thread Mark Reynolds
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/388 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/388/0001-Ticket-388-Improve-replication-agreement-status-mess.patch Thanks, Mark -- Mark Reynolds Senior Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc mreyno...@redhat.com -- 389-devel mailing list

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Jay Sulzberger
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, Tom Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: On 06/12/2012 04:16 PM, Jay Sulzberger wrote: I cannot guarantee that any particular negotiation with Lenovo, nor with Dell, will succeed. But certainly negotiating only with ourselves, without even trying to negotiate with

redhat-rpm-config and rpm-build

2012-06-12 Thread Paul Wouters
I was building a package and not getting any debuginfo packages, and luckily rdieter was around to tell me (again) that I was missing the redhat-rpm-config package. Why is redhat-rpm-config not a dependancy dragged in by rpm-build? Paul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Runoff election for Board seat has begun.

2012-06-12 Thread Robyn Bergeron
Greetings. As previously announced[1], the recent Board election resulted in a two-way tie for the third elected seat, between Nick Bebout and Robert 'Bob' Jensen. The runoff election for this remaining seat has started. Voting began today, Tuesday, June 12, at 00:00:00 UTC, and will end

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Denis Arnaud
Hmm. Sorry, that is the only article I found on the subject (having searched for Linus Torvalds Fedora on search engines). There was also a summary on LinuxToday, which then linked the same ZDnet article. 2012/6/12 Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com Aside Linus being incorrect, the rest of the

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 02:12:44PM -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote: The text I was responding to was: Why would hardware vendors listen to a community distribution that they never preinstall, have no plans to preinstall, and brings them absolutely no money? And my point was that if they're

Re: redhat-rpm-config and rpm-build

2012-06-12 Thread John5342
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Paul Wouters pwout...@redhat.com wrote: I was building a package and not getting any debuginfo packages, and luckily rdieter was around to tell me (again) that I was missing the redhat-rpm-config package. Why is redhat-rpm-config not a dependancy dragged in

Re: Fedora 17 updates-testing report

2012-06-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 00:37 +, upda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: The following Fedora 17 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-9040/lighttpd-1.4.31-1.fc17 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-9103/quagga-0.99.21-2.fc17

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Peter Jones wrote: On 06/12/2012 08:10 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Due to my respect to your request, I thought about it for nearly 72 hours. I still stand behind what I said: People who are incapable of switching a BIOS setting, which might involve doing a

Re: [LGA 1155 motherboards] Multi-Monitor does NOT work when 1 monitor uses Intel GPU and another monitor uses Nvidia GPU -- (Sandy Bridge Ivy Bridge iGPU)

2012-06-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2012-06-10 at 23:16 -0700, Malcolm Turmel wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155 The above article lists all the LGA 1155 motherboards which Allows using built-in GPU also known as Integrated GPU / iGPU. But basically it is talking about the Integrated GPU which comes with the

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 09:46 -0700, darrell pfeifer wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 11:08 -0400, Jay Sulzberger wrote: Let Fedora help bring to market better hardware. Do

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 13:11 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: You are, and that was being very un-excellent, so please refrain from it in future. I'm left wondering where your concern about being excellent to each

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 13:48 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: No offense, but you seem to have a very unusual idea about how much leverage Fedora has anywhere. Why would hardware vendors listen to a community

Weekly ARM status meeting - Wed 2012/06/13

2012-06-12 Thread Paul Whalen
Good day all, This weeks Fedora ARM status meeting will take place tomorrow (Wednesday June 13th) in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. Times in various time zones (please let us know if these do not work): PDT: 1pm MDT: 2pm CDT: 3pm EDT: 4pm UTC: 8pm BST: 9pm CST: 10pm Current items on the

Re: Deltas not being generated against updates for F17

2012-06-12 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:43:05 +0300 Jonathan Dieter jdie...@lesbg.com escribió: On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 11:58 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: This was an issue in the f17-updates and f17-updates-testing mash configs that bodhi was using. I just

File DateTime-Format-Flexible-0.22.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible: 2c7ecdf826ee3bcf7fc9cc7e5141cdce DateTime-Format-Flexible-0.22.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible] 0.22 bump

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit c060ddeac272d16c6df749f2e095b7d9a86e2e6c Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:28:59 2012 +0200 0.22 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible.spec |6 -- sources|2 +- 3 files changed,

[perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible/f17] 0.22 bump

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
Summary of changes: c060dde... 0.22 bump (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 830850] perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible-0.22 is available

2012-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=830850 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED Fixed In

[perl-WWW-RobotRules] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit cd7dc6053775c0f793b67ee43d4b5982dc6efee7 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:39:41 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-WWW-RobotRules.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-WWW-RobotRules.spec

[perl-Expect] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 81ee232b3df6f47c6923dca602df7b41d7d7b8e3 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:39:51 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Expect.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Expect.spec b/perl-Expect.spec index

[perl-Test-AutoLoader] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit bcfbdc0995ff933ff3426a7d07f1ebc873a0fb10 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:39:54 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Test-AutoLoader.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Test-AutoLoader.spec

[perl-Barcode-Code128] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 7400d4806f462dd6cbae48454b6fedd56858c94a Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:39:54 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Barcode-Code128.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Barcode-Code128.spec

[perl-Tk-CursorControl] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit bfe3e48b05f1d93cc279e6c37d4545a04aea81ea Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:39:54 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Tk-CursorControl.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Tk-CursorControl.spec

[perl-B-Hooks-OP-Check] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 3d1dd7708bc6d9ff8550f5cd9709a6a8cd53c042 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:39:53 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-B-Hooks-OP-Check.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-B-Hooks-OP-Check.spec

[perl-File-Find-Iterator] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 3731c5878ba7845de6fc8c75f3aadfd36cd8bea8 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:39:56 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-File-Find-Iterator.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-File-Find-Iterator.spec

[Bug 830850] perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible-0.22 is available

2012-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=830850 --- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible-0.22-1.fc17 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 17. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible-0.22-1.fc17 --

[perl-Cache-FastMmap] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit ce47433199d6c641929996b642312b2f1df02090 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:45:03 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Cache-FastMmap.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Cache-FastMmap.spec

[perl-Data-Section-Simple] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 4baf83f78e29e79d74533a4b125d09e006da147b Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:45:23 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Data-Section-Simple.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Data-Section-Simple.spec

[perl-NetPacket-LLC] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit f33250c15ca84934c7391cc9bf17464138495776 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:45:28 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-NetPacket-LLC.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-NetPacket-LLC.spec

[perl-Term-ReadLine-Perl] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit cbd067d51da1fad0afd5c0959b00cfe73fab816a Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:46:04 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Term-ReadLine-Perl.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Term-ReadLine-Perl.spec

[perl-Apache-Htpasswd] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 8b43929bcc1ebe9f3f1fd19f78c39f88910d8a28 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:46:37 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Apache-Htpasswd.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Apache-Htpasswd.spec

[perl-File-HomeDir] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 700f58737949b5cad2686130b6a85fa09c84e320 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:46:44 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-File-HomeDir.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-File-HomeDir.spec

[perl-XML-Parser-Lite-Tree-XPath] Specify all dependencies

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit e8d88cada22d8e93d81be8754bc1208e971ffe4c Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:47:41 2012 +0200 Specify all dependencies perl-XML-Parser-Lite-Tree-XPath.spec |6 ++ 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) --- diff --git

[perl-CGI-Application-Standard-Config] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit fd9c0a88303e625c2d15a98d4568b804b2b9a6ed Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:50:32 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-CGI-Application-Standard-Config.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git

[perl-Glib] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit e88fe807b85d03a0b326f579a8c1e79b7fd0e107 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:51:21 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Glib.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Glib.spec b/perl-Glib.spec index 2ec02cd..adccdb1

[perl-IPC-Run] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit c7b586c6b88fe2c066158332aef509621ca016d0 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:51:31 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-IPC-Run.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-IPC-Run.spec b/perl-IPC-Run.spec index

[perl-B-Utils] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-12 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 364228227261f137e96d00f5ecfae94f5b515e32 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jun 12 09:51:38 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-B-Utils.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-B-Utils.spec b/perl-B-Utils.spec index

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