Re: Updates: karma and timeouts

2012-07-12 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:09:05 +0200, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > I think if those packages are languishing, it's like > the packager was already notified and chose not to push. Package goes into testing with the goal to get into stable. Therefore by default it should go into stable when it gets appr

Re: Orphaning packages

2012-07-12 Thread Matthias Runge
On 07/12/2012 07:08 PM, Jitesh Shah wrote: django-recaptcha Looking deeper into upstream, I think, this package should be deprecated. I'd replace it with a django-recaptcha solutuion from https://github.com/praekelt/django-recaptcha gnome-rdp libdwarf tcptrack Jitesh Thank you for caring ab

Re: PEAR not entirely in EPEL?

2012-07-12 Thread Jorge Gallegos
That explains it. Thanks a lot! ~kad (android'ed) On Jul 12, 2012 10:31 PM, "Remi Collet" wrote: > Le 13/07/2012 07:22, Jorge Gallegos a écrit : > > Hello everyone, > > > > Am I reading this right? the main PEAR package is not in any EPEL > > version: > > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgd

Re: PEAR not entirely in EPEL?

2012-07-12 Thread Remi Collet
Le 13/07/2012 07:22, Jorge Gallegos a écrit : > Hello everyone, > > Am I reading this right? the main PEAR package is not in any EPEL > version: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/php-pear > > However some PEAR libraries *are* in EPEL, which confuses me a > little bit. How come

PEAR not entirely in EPEL?

2012-07-12 Thread Jorge Gallegos
Hello everyone, Am I reading this right? the main PEAR package is not in any EPEL version: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/php-pear However some PEAR libraries *are* in EPEL, which confuses me a little bit. How come some libraries are there but not php-pear? Thanks in advance

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-07-12 Thread Harald Hoyer
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:43 PM, David Sommerseth wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/06/12 19:42, Brian Wheeler wrote: >> >> >> On 06/01/2012 12:21 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >>> I think most of the noise in this flame thread is due to a >>> misunderstanding how

Re: preventing known-damaging third-party to fedora/epel package upgrade?

2012-07-12 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 2012-07-12 18:01, Paul Wouters wrote: > Unfortunately, the spec file from upstream did not use > %config(noreplace). Someone enabled epel and ran "yum update" and the > EPEL package was seen as an upgrade, and the noreplae bug in their > package caused our package to blow away their configurati

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-07-12 Thread David Sommerseth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/06/12 19:42, Brian Wheeler wrote: > > > On 06/01/2012 12:21 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> I think most of the noise in this flame thread is due to a >> misunderstanding how modern memory management works and the >> assumption that having an

Re: preventing known-damaging third-party to fedora/epel package upgrade?

2012-07-12 Thread Peter Jones
On 07/12/2012 12:13 PM, Tom Callaway wrote: On 07/12/2012 11:41 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: On 07/12/2012 11:38 AM, Peter Jones wrote: So, this makes me wonder. Is there a good reason rpm doesn't check the new package and the old package for having the same file during an upgrade, and simply use

Re: preventing known-damaging third-party to fedora/epel package upgrade?

2012-07-12 Thread Tom Callaway
On 07/12/2012 11:39 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > On 07/12/2012 11:20 AM, Tom Callaway wrote: > >> On 07/12/2012 11:01 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: >>> I would like to prevent this from happening. But since this only happens >>> when upgrading from a third-party 1.3 (which we don't ship) to a 1.4, >>> eve

Re: preventing known-damaging third-party to fedora/epel package upgrade?

2012-07-12 Thread Tom Callaway
On 07/12/2012 11:41 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > On 07/12/2012 11:38 AM, Peter Jones wrote: > >> So, this makes me wonder. Is there a good reason rpm doesn't check the new >> package and the old package for having the same file during an upgrade, and >> simply use the flags on the incoming package i

Re: preventing known-damaging third-party to fedora/epel package upgrade?

2012-07-12 Thread Björn Persson
Paul Wouters wrote: > On 07/12/2012 11:38 AM, Peter Jones wrote: > > So, this makes me wonder. Is there a good reason rpm doesn't check the > > new package and the old package for having the same file during an > > upgrade, and simply use the flags on the incoming package if they're > > both prese

Re: preventing known-damaging third-party to fedora/epel package upgrade?

2012-07-12 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: > Therefore neither Fedora nor EPEL > ever shipped 1.3.x, and we started out with 1.4.x. > So perhaps the best way would be to never allow the upgrade from 1.3.x > to 1.4.x. Is there any kind of support for this? I don't think so, and in gen

Re: preventing known-damaging third-party to fedora/epel package upgrade?

2012-07-12 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi, In an ideal world, when pm is asked to update from a package with no protections, to a package which has files marked as config or config(noreplace), should not it apply the config attributes to the package beeing replaced? Or are there cases where it is not desirable? -- Nicolas Mailhot -

Re: preventing known-damaging third-party to fedora/epel package upgrade?

2012-07-12 Thread Paul Wouters
On 07/12/2012 11:38 AM, Peter Jones wrote: > So, this makes me wonder. Is there a good reason rpm doesn't check the new > package and the old package for having the same file during an upgrade, and > simply use the flags on the incoming package if they're both present? What if the incoming packa

Re: preventing known-damaging third-party to fedora/epel package upgrade?

2012-07-12 Thread Paul Wouters
On 07/12/2012 11:20 AM, Tom Callaway wrote: > On 07/12/2012 11:01 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: >> I would like to prevent this from happening. But since this only happens >> when upgrading from a third-party 1.3 (which we don't ship) to a 1.4, >> even if I used triggers to work around the config file

Re: preventing known-damaging third-party to fedora/epel package upgrade?

2012-07-12 Thread Peter Jones
On 07/12/2012 11:20 AM, Tom Callaway wrote: On 07/12/2012 11:01 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: I would like to prevent this from happening. But since this only happens when upgrading from a third-party 1.3 (which we don't ship) to a 1.4, even if I used triggers to work around the config file issue, th

[Bug 839701] Review Request: perl-SQL-ReservedWords - Determine if words are reserved by ANSI/ISO SQL standard.

2012-07-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=839701 Bill Pemberton changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Determine if words are |Review Request: |rese

Re: preventing known-damaging third-party to fedora/epel package upgrade?

2012-07-12 Thread Tom Callaway
On 07/12/2012 11:01 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > I would like to prevent this from happening. But since this only happens > when upgrading from a third-party 1.3 (which we don't ship) to a 1.4, > even if I used triggers to work around the config file issue, the users > would end up with a broken data

[Bug 839701] Determine if words are reserved by ANSI/ISO SQL standard.

2012-07-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=839701 Bill Pemberton changed: What|Removed |Added CC||perl-devel@lists.fedoraproj

Re: preventing known-damaging third-party to fedora/epel package upgrade?

2012-07-12 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Paul Wouters said: > So perhaps the best way would be to never allow the upgrade from 1.3.x > to 1.4.x. Is there any kind of support for this? Looking at the > triggers, and the fact that the bad packages are already installed on > those systems, I don't think any of the triggers

preventing known-damaging third-party to fedora/epel package upgrade?

2012-07-12 Thread Paul Wouters
Hi, One of the packages I maintain is shipped with a version of 1.4.x. Upstream has a 1.3.x branch. The 1.3 branch is considered stable by upstream, but my experience was that 1.4.x was actually more stable. Additionally, migration from 1.3 to 1.4 was tedious and involved manually changing sqlite/

Vacation hansg July 13th - July 20th

2012-07-12 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi All, I'm going on vacation for a week starting tomorrow, and I will *not* be reading email, etc. during that time. Regards, Hans -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Updates: karma and timeouts

2012-07-12 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 04:38:19PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hey, folks. > > So I've had a feeling lately that the amount of karma being filed on > updates has dropped - especially since proventesters was axed - but I > don't have hard numbers. I've put it on my todo list to check into this

Re: Django-* to python-django-* rename

2012-07-12 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > 2012/7/11 Matthias Runge : > > On 07/11/2012 02:33 PM, Rakesh Pandit wrote: > >> > >> @devel > >> May someone take care of this rename and review so that it happens > >> before f18 branching ? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > > done > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_b

Re: Django-* to python-django-* rename

2012-07-12 Thread Domingo Becker
2012/7/11 Matthias Runge : > On 07/11/2012 02:33 PM, Rakesh Pandit wrote: >> >> @devel >> May someone take care of this rename and review so that it happens >> before f18 branching ? >> >> Regards, >> > done > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=839382 > Regarding this issue, I need help

Re: Licensing change: Audacious - GPLv3 --> BSD

2012-07-12 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:34:46 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > The Original post was simply letting everyone know that upstream > > changed their license. If you have an issue with that, they would be > > the ones to address it, not anyone here in Fedora land. > > Technically, if upstream bung

Re: Licensing change: Audacious - GPLv3 --> BSD

2012-07-12 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:31:43 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Look at it this way: it's the *project* which is in the exposed, > dangerous position, not the contributors. You're arguing it almost the > opposite way. That must be a misunderstanding. Perhaps as a result of reading too quickly. I've

Re: Fwd: [Full-disclosure] The right to read, debuggers and building future Fedora kernels

2012-07-12 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/12/2012 08:41 AM, yersinia wrote: > For the folk here that don't follow fd. The author is a well know and > respected security researcher. There's a much more sane independent analysis of Fedora's position at http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/whitepaper-web Andrew.

Fwd: [Full-disclosure] The right to read, debuggers and building future Fedora kernels

2012-07-12 Thread yersinia
For the folk here that don't follow fd. The author is a well know and respected security researcher. Just for info. Best regards -- Forwarded message -- From: Georgi Guninski Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:13:58 +0300 Subject: [Full-disclosure] The right to read, debuggers and buildin