Re: Firefox / Thunderbird 17 ESR for Fedora 16/17

2012-09-23 Thread Álvaro Castillo
Web old version? Firefox launch new releases all time. I do no see a web programmers change your code page all time. While follow w3 standards never mind. So, Firefox ESR has got a lot stability and standby updates each some time. So, developers I guess are feel bad with new Firefox way to new rel

Re: Firefox / Thunderbird 17 ESR for Fedora 16/17

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Stransky
On 09/22/2012 01:02 PM, Julian Sikorski wrote: W dniu 21.09.2012 15:33, Martin Stransky pisze: Hi guys, as the subject says there are test packages available for your beloved Fedora's. Especially Thunderbird 17 (Earlybird now) needs some love from you (the 17ESR line is going to be a background

Re: Firefox / Thunderbird 17 ESR for Fedora 16/17

2012-09-23 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 01:10:45PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > you can not have BOTH in the repos in a way that > the installation doses not conflict and you are Sure we can. It's not pretty, but definitely possible. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ -- devel mailing lis

Re: Firefox / Thunderbird 17 ESR for Fedora 16/17

2012-09-23 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 23.09.2012 13:10, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 23.09.2012 13:06, schrieb Thorsten Leemhuis: >> Has anybody considered to package the ESR releases for Fedora or is the >> general consensus "that doesn't make much sense, just leads to confusion >> and is not worth the trouble". I now and then could n

Re: Bodhi should recommend using yum-security's --advisory switch to test testing updates

2012-09-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Sounds nice... > > Could you file a bodhi ticket on this? > > https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/newticket Filed: https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/695 Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinf

Re: Bodhi should recommend using yum-security's --advisory switch to test testing updates

2012-09-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:33:56 +0200 Kevin Kofler wrote: > I wrote: > > 3. If the user did not have some of the packages in the group > > installed, explicitly listing them installs them, which is usually > > not what the user wants. > > Oops, sorry, I just tested this, I was wrong about that one.

Re: Firefox / Thunderbird 17 ESR for Fedora 16/17

2012-09-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.09.2012 13:06, schrieb Thorsten Leemhuis: > Has anybody considered to package the ESR releases for Fedora or is the > general consensus "that doesn't make much sense, just leads to confusion > and is not worth the trouble". I now and then could need a parallel > installed Firefox ESR for a

Re: Bodhi should recommend using yum-security's --advisory switch to test testing updates

2012-09-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
I wrote: > 3. If the user did not have some of the packages in the group installed, > explicitly listing them installs them, which is usually not what the user > wants. Oops, sorry, I just tested this, I was wrong about that one. But that in turn means that if the user had only subpackages instal

Re: Bodhi should recommend using yum-security's --advisory switch to test testing updates

2012-09-23 Thread Caterpillar
Il 23/09/2012 17:06, Kevin Kofler ha scritto: > yum --enablerepo=updates-testing --advisory=FEDORA-2012-14137 update I strongly agree with Kevin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F18 buildroot broken (libtool / gcc upgrade problem)?

2012-09-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > No surprises that the build system of libtool is as crazy as the > program itself. I can't even find how the 'libtool' script > is created ... Sigh, libtool is probably the most braindead of the autocrap. Good luck with it, you'll need it! ;-) Kevin Kofler -

Re: Firefox / Thunderbird 17 ESR for Fedora 16/17

2012-09-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ralf Ertzinger wrote: > How is that going to work? The current release will become the previous > version at some time, and you cannot just downgrade to the ESR at that > time. How about upgrading until the next ESR-supported branch and then switching to the ESR releases? (Just floating the idea.

Bodhi should recommend using yum-security's --advisory switch to test testing updates

2012-09-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Hi, in its Bugzilla comments for the bugs related to: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-14137 Bodhi suggested to upgrade using the following monster command: su -c 'yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing kde-workspace-4.9.1-5.fc17 akonadi-1.8.0-1.fc17 analitza-4.9.1-1.fc17 ar

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Alpha is hereby declared GOLD

2012-09-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Murphy wrote: > I would use the word "RELEASE" instead of TC1, TC2, RC1, RC2. So "Fedora > 18 Alpha RC3" became "Fedora 18 Alpha Release". It was after all a > "release candidate" and once no longer a candidate, it is a release. I think "release" is even more confusing to the average user th

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Álvaro Castillo wrote: > If you do not like touchpad. Can disable on your laptop with Fn keys. 1. not all laptops have this and 2. what if I want to use the touchpad, just not with tapping? Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
drago01 wrote: > Because some people that can actually use it (i.e I never accidentally > click when trying to move the mouse; maybe you just have a crappy > touchpad?). On my notebook, touchpad tapping is off of course. I have this problem each time I try to use somebody else's touchpad which ha

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Hi, Ankur Sinha wrote: > We set up a page about this (The link was sent to the list too iirc) > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_enable_touchpad_click#KDE > > It still misses the KDE method. Could someone please add it? Please add > info about gdm etc also if you think it should be presen

Re: Non-responsive pytrainer maintainer; anyone interested in the package?

2012-09-23 Thread Kalev Lember
On 09/19/2012 12:34 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: > 1.9.1 pushed to rawhide,f18,f17 Excellent. However, the broken deps still remain. From latest rawhide report: > [pytrainer] > pytrainer-1.9.1-1.fc19.noarch requires gnome-python2-gtkmozembed Can you also fix it up to not depend on a package th

Re: rawhide report: 20120923 changes

2012-09-23 Thread Kalev Lember
On 09/23/2012 02:58 PM, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: > Compose started at Sun Sep 23 08:15:10 UTC 2012 > > Broken deps for i386 > -- > [gnome-contacts] > gnome-contacts-3.5.92-2.fc18.i686 requires libcheese.so.7 > gnome-contacts-3

rawhide report: 20120923 changes

2012-09-23 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sun Sep 23 08:15:10 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [almanah] almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-3.0.so.3()(64bit) almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.16()(64bit)

metrics [was Re: Firefox / Thunderbird 17 ESR for Fedora 16/17]

2012-09-23 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 01:06:53PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Has anybody considered to package the ESR releases for Fedora or is the > general consensus "that doesn't make much sense, just leads to confusion > and is not worth the trouble". I now and then could need a parallel It's too bad

Re: Firefox / Thunderbird 17 ESR for Fedora 16/17

2012-09-23 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 22.09.2012 13:02, Julian Sikorski wrote: > W dniu 21.09.2012 15:33, Martin Stransky pisze: >> as the subject says there are test packages available for your beloved >> Fedora's. Especially Thunderbird 17 (Earlybird now) needs some love from >> you (the 17ESR line is going to be a background for

Re: F18 buildroot broken (libtool / gcc upgrade problem)?

2012-09-23 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:25:25AM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 23/09/12 10:20, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > >$ grep /usr/lib/gcc /usr/bin/libtool > >sys_lib_search_path_spec="/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.1 /usr/lib64 > >/lib64 " > >compiler_lib_search_dirs="/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-l

Re: F18 buildroot broken (libtool / gcc upgrade problem)?

2012-09-23 Thread Tom Hughes
On 23/09/12 10:20, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: $ grep /usr/lib/gcc /usr/bin/libtool sys_lib_search_path_spec="/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.1 /usr/lib64 /lib64 " compiler_lib_search_dirs="/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.1 /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.1/../../../../lib64 /lib/

Re: F18 buildroot broken (libtool / gcc upgrade problem)?

2012-09-23 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:17:10AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:12:51AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > This doesn't look right ... > > > > DEBUG util.py:257: Error: Package: libtool-2.4.2-6.fc18.x86_64 (build) > > DEBUG util.py:257: Requires: gc

Re: F18 buildroot broken (libtool / gcc upgrade problem)?

2012-09-23 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:12:51AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > This doesn't look right ... > > DEBUG util.py:257: Error: Package: libtool-2.4.2-6.fc18.x86_64 (build) > DEBUG util.py:257: Requires: gcc = 4.7.1 > DEBUG util.py:257: Installed: gcc-4.7.2-2.fc18.x86_64

F18 buildroot broken (libtool / gcc upgrade problem)?

2012-09-23 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
This doesn't look right ... DEBUG util.py:257: Error: Package: libtool-2.4.2-6.fc18.x86_64 (build) DEBUG util.py:257: Requires: gcc = 4.7.1 DEBUG util.py:257: Installed: gcc-4.7.2-2.fc18.x86_64 (@build/$releasever) DEBUG util.py:257: gcc = 4.7.2-2.fc18 DEB

Self Introduction, Erwin Waterlander

2012-09-23 Thread Erwin Waterlander
Hi, My name is Erwin Waterlander. I intend to maintain the package wcd for Fedora, of which I am also the upstream maintainer. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859675 Wcd is a mature package, already part of Debian, Ubuntu and Cygwin (packaged by others). I provided wcd RPM

Re: Firefox / Thunderbird 17 ESR for Fedora 16/17

2012-09-23 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 09/22/2012 09:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 07:37:13PM +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: >>> Does it mean Fedora will stop shipping the latest FF/TB and stick to ESR >>> instead? Or is it for parallel-installation purposes? >> Assuming RHEL will have ESR (which is reasonable)