Shall sockets are owned by rpm or created/removed by post/preun scriptlet?

2013-05-21 Thread Björn Esser
Hello! I'm currently work on packaging `courier-authlib` (needed for pkg'ing and running courier MTA). In maintainer's `generic-all-purpose-and-all-rpm-dists` spec-file there is this scriptlet inside %install for creating/providing the needed socket: /scriptlet/ mkdir -p

Re: Shall sockets are owned by rpm or created/removed by post/preun scriptlet?

2013-05-21 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 21 mai 2013 09:51, Björn Esser a écrit : My question about this is: Can I take this one-by-one in my fedora-rpm or is it better to provide the same functionality during %post and %preun? IMHO, you'll need to take a hard look at systedifying all this first Regards, -- Nicolas

Re: Shall sockets are owned by rpm or created/removed by post/preun scriptlet?

2013-05-21 Thread Tom Hughes
On 21/05/13 08:51, Björn Esser wrote: In maintainer's `generic-all-purpose-and-all-rpm-dists` spec-file there is this scriptlet inside %install for creating/providing the needed socket: /scriptlet/ mkdir -p %{buildroot}%{_localstatedir}/spool/authdaemon/ ./authmksock

Re: Default-installed MTA (was Re: MTA virtual provides craziness)

2013-05-21 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 21 mai 2013 00:12, Kevin Fenzi a écrit : Lots of things use /etc/aliases... In fact, /etc/aliases should be set up by anaconda or firstboot with the main user mail. We've been hearing for years from desktop people a MTA was bad, heavy and difficult to use but after years of rants

Re: Default-installed MTA (was Re: MTA virtual provides craziness)

2013-05-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 20 May 2013 20:20:56 -0400 Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: The only MTA I've seen handlie both SMARTHOST and /etc/aliases correctly was exim,. which is no longer included by default and for which the necessary configuration is not widely published nor in the default

Re: Shall sockets are owned by rpm or created/removed by post/preun scriptlet?

2013-05-21 Thread Björn Esser
Allright, then! Thanks for your answers! I'll have a _strong_ look in * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:SysVInitScript * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Systemd for improving my mind/knowlegde... Any other places I should have look in, too? Cheers, Björn -- devel mailing

Re: Shall sockets are owned by rpm or created/removed by post/preun scriptlet?

2013-05-21 Thread Tom Hughes
On 21/05/13 09:29, Björn Esser wrote: Allright, then! Thanks for your answers! I'll have a _strong_ look in * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:SysVInitScript Well you shouldn't need to worry about that one for a new package, unless you're wanting to support EPEL. *

Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?

2013-05-21 Thread Martin Sivak
Hi, Just to clarify things. Anaconda currently requires root password OR user with administrator privileges (wheel group). So if you set root password in Anaconda, initial-setup will start, but can be dismissed immediately. It might be good idea to add some explanation text to initial-setup

Re: Default-installed MTA (was Re: MTA virtual provides craziness)

2013-05-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:10:33AM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Mar 21 mai 2013 00:12, Kevin Fenzi a écrit : Lots of things use /etc/aliases... In fact, /etc/aliases should be set up by anaconda or firstboot with the main user mail. We did this in BU Linux. Specificially, we made an

Re: Systemd tip: service conditionals

2013-05-21 Thread Simone Caronni
Hello, thanks for the tip. On 16 May 2013 20:41, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: It's really neat stuff, and very easy to use: you just add a Condition(Something) statement to the .service file. For details on using these conditions, see 'man systemd.unit' and just search for

rawhide report: 20130521 changes

2013-05-21 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue May 21 08:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [airinv] airinv-1.00.0-3.fc19.i686 requires libsoci_mysql.so.3.1 airinv-1.00.0-3.fc19.i686 requires libsoci_core.so.3.1

Re: SWAT will be removed from the Samba package

2013-05-21 Thread Andreas Schneider
On Monday 25 February 2013 17:33:09 Andreas Schneider wrote: On Monday 25 February 2013 10:09:50 Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Andreas Schneider a...@redhat.com wrote: Hello, the Samba Team has announced [1] that it will remove SWAT from the Samba Suite.

Somewhat OT: About modules coresize

2013-05-21 Thread Sergio Belkin
Hi, I know that is somehat OT, but I was looking for trying to discover what does mean the size column of lsmod. Some people says is memory used by the module, but if I run strace lsmod I found that it takes a look to coresize files at /sys and read

F-19 Branched report: 20130521 changes

2013-05-21 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Tue May 21 09:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [byzanz] byzanz-0.3-0.5.fc17.x86_64 requires libpanel-applet-4.so.0()(64bit) [deltacloud-core] deltacloud-core-rhevm-1.1.3-1.fc19.noarch requires

Re: su starts behaving oddly sometimes on F19

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/20/2013 03:29 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 12:33 +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 22:29 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: This is a weird bug I've seen 3 or 4 times since upgrading to F19, and am having trouble

Re: Soname bump libpng (rawhide) - new libraries libpng.16.so and libpng16.so.16.2.0

2013-05-21 Thread Kalev Lember
2013-05-20 09:03, Petr Hracek skrev: Just a one short question. You are talking about side tag. Could you please describe me what are you talking about? It seems like I am a newbie. Koji organizes builds by labelling them with tags. There's a a tag for f19, a tag for f19-updates, a tag for

%global _hardened_build 1 not working?

2013-05-21 Thread Richard Shaw
I got two bug reports sent to me because -fPIE was not used and the packages contain suid binaries. I'm working on fixing it and I added %global _hardened_build 1 to my spec files but the output of %{optflags} does not seem to be modified as the packaging guidelines[1] suggest they should. What

Re: %global _hardened_build 1 not working?

2013-05-21 Thread Richard Shaw
Never mind, I guess that's what -spec=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1 First time I've seen something like that in the flags... Richard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Systemd tip: service conditionals

2013-05-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 21.05.13 14:08, Simone Caronni (negativ...@gmail.com) wrote: Hello, thanks for the tip. On 16 May 2013 20:41, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: It's really neat stuff, and very easy to use: you just add a Condition(Something) statement to the .service file. For

Re: Systemd tip: service conditionals

2013-05-21 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Tue, 21.05.13 14:08, Simone Caronni (negativ...@gmail.com) wrote: Hello, thanks for the tip. On 16 May 2013 20:41, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: It's really neat stuff, and very easy to use:

[heads-up] kbd using converted xkb layouts landing in Rawhide

2013-05-21 Thread Vitezslav Crhonek
Hello, I have built kbd-1.15.5-6.fc20 recently. It uses converted xkb layouts instead of original console keymaps by default. Basic info: - the list of xkb layouts and variants is taken from /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.xml (processed by slightly modified perl script taken from

Re: Somewhat OT: About modules coresize

2013-05-21 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 05/21/2013 08:50 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote: I know that is somehat OT, but I was looking for trying to discover what does mean the size column of lsmod. Some people says is memory used by the module, but if I run strace lsmod I found that it takes a look to coresize files at /sys and read

Re: Default-installed MTA (was Re: MTA virtual provides craziness)

2013-05-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 20.05.13 21:36, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: by default all mail messages go to root which you need root permissions to access them so it's not really an argument and on most setups i know /etc/aliases contains root: whoe...@domain.tld and the *main* difference

Re: Somewhat OT: About modules coresize

2013-05-21 Thread Sergio Belkin
2013/5/21 Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov On 05/21/2013 08:50 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote: I know that is somehat OT, but I was looking for trying to discover what does mean the size column of lsmod. Some people says is memory used by the module, but if I run strace lsmod I found

Re: Default-installed MTA (was Re: MTA virtual provides craziness)

2013-05-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 20.05.13 22:33, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: You still have to configure all of that and whether a MTA is installed automatically or not doesn't really make it work out of the box. you have *ntohing* to configure you only need to edit *one line* in /etc/aliases

Re: Somewhat OT: About modules coresize

2013-05-21 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Sergio Belkin seb...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/5/21 Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov On 05/21/2013 08:50 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote: I know that is somehat OT, but I was looking for trying to discover what does mean the size column of lsmod. Some

Re: [heads-up] kbd using converted xkb layouts landing in Rawhide

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 16:42 +0200, Vitezslav Crhonek wrote: Hello, I have built kbd-1.15.5-6.fc20 recently. It uses converted xkb layouts instead of original console keymaps by default. Basic info: - the list of xkb layouts and variants is taken from /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.xml

Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 05:23 -0400, Martin Sivak wrote: Hi, Just to clarify things. Anaconda currently requires root password OR user with administrator privileges (wheel group). So if you set root password in Anaconda, initial-setup will start, but can be dismissed immediately. I meant

Re: Systemd tip: service conditionals

2013-05-21 Thread Florian Weimer
On 05/21/2013 02:08 PM, Simone Caronni wrote: If there's a way to check if Secure Boot is enabled that would be great. Why do you want to do that? That's almost always wrong, just like checking for the AD bit in DNS responses. -- Florian Weimer / Red Hat Product Security Team -- devel

Re: %global _hardened_build 1 not working?

2013-05-21 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 05/21/2013 08:00 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: Never mind, I guess that's what -spec=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1 First time I've seen something like that in the flags... Richard In my case it was because the corresponding linker flag was not getting used by the build. -- Orion

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2013-05-19 at 09:59 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On May 16, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 15:44 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 16, 2013, at 3:36 PM,

Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 09:41 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 05:07 -0400, Martin Sivak wrote: It was actually intended to behave this way from the beginning. All the screens are shared with Anaconda (and all we have right now live as part of Anaconda source code).

Re: [heads-up] kbd using converted xkb layouts landing in Rawhide

2013-05-21 Thread Till Maas
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 04:42:10PM +0200, Vitezslav Crhonek wrote: - there are symlinks from the old keymap names to the matching entries of the X11 keymaps (pairs taken from 'kbd-model-map' file in localed sources) The symlinks seem to be broken, because bot the deadkeys and the nondeadkeys

Re: Adding new group to comps-f19.xml.in

2013-05-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
Ravindra Kumar (ravindraku...@vmware.com) said: Thanks Bill. No issues with the checkin. I looked at the checked in files and I have following questions: 1. defaultfalse/default and uservisiblefalse/uservisible elements will make these packages not to be installed by default and

Re: Systemd tip: service conditionals

2013-05-21 Thread Simone Caronni
Hello, On 21 May 2013 17:43, Florian Weimer fwei...@redhat.com wrote: On 05/21/2013 02:08 PM, Simone Caronni wrote: If there's a way to check if Secure Boot is enabled that would be great. Why do you want to do that? That's almost always wrong, just like checking for the AD bit in DNS

Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 14:25 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: So I'm writing a blog post on this topic ATM, and that really kinda brought home how messy this design is at present. So! I've been poking through the logic of this for the last few days, still, and with some further testing of exactly

Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?

2013-05-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:50:37AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Since F19 has user creation in anaconda, we can actually cover all those scenarios in anaconda quite easily. Literally all we have to do is make it pop up a warning if you try to quit the installer without creating a user

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Dan Williams
On Sun, 2013-05-19 at 09:59 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On May 16, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 15:44 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 16, 2013, at 3:36 PM,

Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 15:03 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:50:37AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Since F19 has user creation in anaconda, we can actually cover all those scenarios in anaconda quite easily. Literally all we have to do is make it pop up a warning if

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 21, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: But this bug has brought me to a plethora of buggy behavior in the Gnome Settings Network panel, so maybe the misery was worth it. *THIS*. *This* kind of thing is why NetworkManager remains unusable for production network

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: 1. Connect Automatically may work as designed, but it's a flawed design. It makes no sense to have an admin user enable a network through the Gnome shell toolbar icon (Network icon, flip the switch from Off to On), reboot, and then have

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 21, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 21.05.2013 22:02, schrieb Chris Murphy: Maybe someone can explain to me the use case for ONBOOT= where its value isn't tied to the current network state. I wasted an inordinate, unreasonable amount of time

Possible alternative behaviours for user creation at install time (was Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?)

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 15:03 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: gnome-initial-setup would still be a different case, as GNOME apparently really wants to force the creation of a non-root account. So g-i-s will That seems fine to me; systems where you don't want a user account shouldn't be desktop

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 21, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: 1. Connect Automatically may work as designed, but it's a flawed design. It makes no sense to have an admin user enable a network through the Gnome shell toolbar

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 21, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 21.05.2013 22:25, schrieb Chris Murphy: On May 21, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 21.05.2013 22:02, schrieb Chris Murphy: Maybe someone can explain to me the use case for ONBOOT=

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.05.2013 22:02, schrieb Chris Murphy: Maybe someone can explain to me the use case for ONBOOT= where its value isn't tied to the current network state. I wasted an inordinate, unreasonable amount of time trying to figure this out before I realized what was going on why should

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.05.2013 22:25, schrieb Chris Murphy: On May 21, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 21.05.2013 22:02, schrieb Chris Murphy: Maybe someone can explain to me the use case for ONBOOT= where its value isn't tied to the current network state. I wasted an

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:33 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 21, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: 1. Connect Automatically may work as designed, but it's a flawed design. It makes no sense to have an

Re: Possible alternative behaviours for user creation at install time (was Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?)

2013-05-21 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 12:30 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 15:03 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: gnome-initial-setup would still be a different case, as GNOME apparently really wants to force the creation of a non-root account. So g-i-s will That seems fine to me;

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 21, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: But this bug has brought me to a plethora of buggy behavior in the Gnome Settings Network panel, so maybe the misery was worth it. *THIS*. *This* kind of thing

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 22:07 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 21.05.2013 22:02, schrieb Chris Murphy: Maybe someone can explain to me the use case for ONBOOT= where its value isn't tied to the current network state. I wasted an inordinate, unreasonable amount of time trying to

Re: Possible alternative behaviours for user creation at install time (was Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?)

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 16:56 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: The other 'mandate user creation' option would be simply to do it in (interactive) anaconda, and tell people who want to do installs without a user account to use a kickstart or lump it. This has the advantage of being one of the

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:33 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 21, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: 1. Connect Automatically may work as designed, but it's a flawed design. It makes no sense to have an

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 21, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:33 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 21, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: I'm just trying to figure out the

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 15:15 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: Anaconda creates ifcfg-en5s0, but sometimes the interface doesn't get an IP address via DHCP on boot. Sometimes it does. I haven't figured out why. But if I delete this ifcfg- file, and have Gnome Network create a new profile, it creates

Re: Possible alternative behaviours for user creation at install time (was Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?)

2013-05-21 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 16:56 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: The other 'mandate user creation' option would be simply to do it in (interactive) anaconda, and tell people who want to do installs without a user account to use a kickstart

Re: Possible alternative behaviours for user creation at install time (was Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?)

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 17:22 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: Nothing much, and if you actually read both my mails fully, that is precisely the path I proposed. Yeah I got that, I was just asking why we consider mandating something when the current behavior seem, to work just fine. Well, I'm the

Re: Possible alternative behaviours for user creation at install time (was Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?)

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 17:22 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: Both g-i-s and anaconda/i-s appear to offer at least some mechanism for configuring remote user accounts. I don't know in detail what technologies they support; the g-i-s one looks like it supports at least AD, I don't know what else.

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 15:15 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: Anaconda creates ifcfg-en5s0, but sometimes the interface doesn't get an IP address via DHCP on boot. Sometimes it does. I haven't figured out why. But if I delete this ifcfg-

File Module-Info-0.34.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2013-05-21 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Module-Info: 13a912e1ddbca467d4e15e3a7f0acd0c Module-Info-0.34.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Doug Ledford
On 05/21/2013 04:25 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 21, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 21.05.2013 22:02, schrieb Chris Murphy: Maybe someone can explain to me the use case for ONBOOT= where its value isn't tied to the current network state. I wasted an

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-05-22)

2013-05-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2013-05-22 18:00 UTC' Links to all tickets

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots

2013-05-21 Thread Björn Persson
Chris Murphy wrote: On May 21, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:33 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: Is Gnome Settings Network leveraging Network Manager? If so, it's using a different naming convention than systemd, and it seems the two are

Re: Possible alternative behaviours for user creation at install time (was Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?)

2013-05-21 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 17:22 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: If someone wants to make user creation mandatory I think they should first provide a working method to select external account providers in anaconda. If that can't be done they should leave account creation optional. Although it being a

Re: Possible alternative behaviours for user creation at install time (was Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?)

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 19:14 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 17:22 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: If someone wants to make user creation mandatory I think they should first provide a working method to select external account providers in anaconda. If that can't be done they

Re: Possible alternative behaviours for user creation at install time (was Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?)

2013-05-21 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 19:14 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 17:22 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: If someone wants to make user creation mandatory I think they should first provide a working method to select external account providers in anaconda. If that can't be done they

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 21, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: Automatically may work as designed, but it's a flawed design. It makes no sense to have an admin user enable a network through the Gnome shell toolbar icon (Network icon,

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 22:58 -0400, Chris Murphy wrote: Ok, so the issues are with the GNOME control center network panel, not specifically the NM core daemon? The issue is with Gnome Settings, and anaconda's behavior which has changed from F18 to F19. In F18, it sets ONBOOT=on even if a

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 21, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:33 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: Is Gnome Settings Network leveraging Network Manager? If so, it's using a different naming convention than systemd, and it seems the two are involved in some

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 23:06 -0400, Chris Murphy wrote: The configuration files weren't renamed. The ip addr or ip link reported device is what's different. The effect is that when the device is p5p1, yet there's a configuration file created by anaconda ifcfg-en5s0, even though that file

[Test-Announce] 2013-05-22 @ 16:00 UTC - F19 Beta Blocker Bug Review #8

2013-05-21 Thread Tim Flink
# F19 Beta Blocker Review meeting #8 # Date: 2013-05-22 # Time: 16:00 UTC (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT) # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net The eighth and hopefully final blocker review meeting for F19 beta will be tomorrow. Come help us review blocker and FreezeException bugs! We'll

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 21, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Doug Ledford dledf...@redhat.com wrote: On 05/21/2013 04:25 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 21, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 21.05.2013 22:02, schrieb Chris Murphy: Maybe someone can explain to me the use case for

Re: wired ethernet disabled between reboots, was: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 21, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Are you using a kickstart that installs biosdevname, perhaps? Nope. I haven't even tried going down that rabbit hole yet. Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2013-05-21 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 64-bit Live LXDE is over its size target (700 MiB) and will not fit on a standard 700 MiB CD. As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Release Candidate 3 (RC3) is now available for testing. Content information, including changes, can be found at

File Stream-Buffered-0.02.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by corsepiu

2013-05-21 Thread corsepiu
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Stream-Buffered: 63d7776365a4ffd22f15002e03781c01 Stream-Buffered-0.02.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Stream-Buffered] Initial import.

2013-05-21 Thread corsepiu
commit d7ea93f34675f71f480c0f4da28550a9d9c57ac8 Author: Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org Date: Tue May 21 08:07:14 2013 +0200 Initial import. .gitignore|1 + perl-Stream-Buffered.spec | 51 + sources

[perl-Stream-Buffered/f19] Initial import.

2013-05-21 Thread corsepiu
Summary of changes: d7ea93f... Initial import. (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Stream-Buffered/f18] Initial import.

2013-05-21 Thread corsepiu
Summary of changes: d7ea93f... Initial import. (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Stream-Buffered/f17] Initial import.

2013-05-21 Thread corsepiu
Summary of changes: d7ea93f... Initial import. (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

File Number-WithError-1.01.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2013-05-21 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Number-WithError: 5cef7b1a8f7f85135ec24de5961cab4e Number-WithError-1.01.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Number-WithError] Import

2013-05-21 Thread Petr Pisar
commit e94907e4b53804b971e0fae711d35c2e46ba78c2 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue May 21 08:37:35 2013 +0200 Import .gitignore |1 + perl-Number-WithError.spec | 78 sources|1 + 3

File Pod-Usage-1.62.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2013-05-21 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Pod-Usage: 51d2890913a923987ac6da75ad008183 Pod-Usage-1.62.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Pod-Usage] 1.62 bump

2013-05-21 Thread Petr Pisar
commit ca5a73323e069bc286dbef3c263747b6ca7b3090 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue May 21 09:59:28 2013 +0200 1.62 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Pod-Usage.spec | 28 ++-- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 11

File Test-TCP-1.27.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by corsepiu

2013-05-21 Thread corsepiu
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Test-TCP: 304d2227a8f18027ae3cba21e764ebe1 Test-TCP-1.27.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Test-TCP] Upstream update.

2013-05-21 Thread corsepiu
commit 3bc7949cc49d9ce2ba8fb297a816b3ce5f23a630 Author: Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org Date: Tue May 21 11:02:46 2013 +0200 Upstream update. .gitignore |2 +- perl-Test-TCP.spec |6 +- sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3

[perl-Test-TCP/f19] Upstream update.

2013-05-21 Thread corsepiu
Summary of changes: 3bc7949... Upstream update. (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Test-TCP/f18] (2 commits) ...Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/f19' into f18

2013-05-21 Thread corsepiu
Summary of changes: 3bc7949... Upstream update. (*) f9c2bf5... Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/f19' into f18 (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[perl-Test-TCP/f18: 2/2] Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/f19' into f18

2013-05-21 Thread corsepiu
commit f9c2bf5ff351dfc45bf80047744a4b317ec311ba Merge: 8734443 3bc7949 Author: Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org Date: Tue May 21 11:14:40 2013 +0200 Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/f19' into f18 .gitignore |2 +- perl-Test-TCP.spec |6 +- sources

[perl-Test-TCP/f17] (3 commits) ...Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/f18' into f17

2013-05-21 Thread corsepiu
Summary of changes: 3bc7949... Upstream update. (*) f9c2bf5... Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/f19' into f18 (*) 0d9c399... Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/f18' into f17 (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG

[perl-Test-TCP/f17: 3/3] Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/f18' into f17

2013-05-21 Thread corsepiu
commit 0d9c399d02888442500cc7c3f3d45ef8d0667bc7 Merge: b1e51b6 f9c2bf5 Author: Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org Date: Tue May 21 11:28:14 2013 +0200 Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/f18' into f17 .gitignore |2 +- perl-Test-TCP.spec |6 +- sources

File YAML-Syck-1.27.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2013-05-21 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-YAML-Syck: 8920091e68a078cfa9c42041e5759162 YAML-Syck-1.27.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-YAML-Syck] Update to 1.27

2013-05-21 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 3e706bc4d0350f2f8535cc2ec268d20ba52f4403 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Tue May 21 11:24:46 2013 +0100 Update to 1.27 - New upstream release 1.27 - Fix for hash randomization in yaml-alias.t on perl 5.18.0 (CPAN RT#84882, CPAN RT#84466)

[perl-YAML-Syck] Created tag perl-YAML-Syck-1.27-1.fc20

2013-05-21 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-YAML-Syck-1.27-1.fc20' was created pointing to: 3e706bc... Update to 1.27 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel

[Bug 965245] perl-Pod-Usage-1.62 is available

2013-05-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=965245 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In

[Bug 965245] perl-Pod-Usage-1.62 is available

2013-05-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=965245 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Target

[Bug 960048] Can't load '/usr/lib64/perl5/auto/Fcntl/Fcntl.so' - undefined symbols

2013-05-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=960048 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version|openldap-2.4.35-4.fc19

[Bug 957931] perl-Carp-1.26-242.fc18.noarch remains following fedup f18 -- f19 upgrade

2013-05-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=957931 --- Comment #12 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-5.16.3-244.fc18, perl-Digest-1.17-244.fc18, perl-Carp-1.26-243.fc18, perl-ExtUtils-Manifest-1.61-243.fc18, perl-parent-0.225-243.fc18, perl-Test-Simple-0.98-243.fc18,

[Bug 965424] New: perl-CPANPLUS-0.9138 is available

2013-05-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=965424 Bug ID: 965424 Summary: perl-CPANPLUS-0.9138 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-CPANPLUS Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Severity: unspecified

Broken dependencies: perl-Bio-SamTools

2013-05-21 Thread buildsys
perl-Bio-SamTools has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.x86_64 requires perl(Bio::SeqFeature::Lite) perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.x86_64 requires perl(Bio::PrimarySeq) On i386: perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.i686 requires

Broken dependencies: perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene

2013-05-21 Thread buildsys
perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene-1.091-17.fc19.noarch requires perl(Bio::Index::AbstractSeq) On i386: perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene-1.091-17.fc19.noarch requires perl(Bio::Index::AbstractSeq) Please resolve

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