Re: I want to turn on a part of the kernel to make SELinux checking more stringent.

2014-01-26 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 04:32:54PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: Do we really need a service for this? Can't this be done instead via a tmpfiles snippet that uses f and the extra argument at the end? I mean I am not convinced it's worth involving shell here. Also the canonical way to

Review swap or Sponser request: the_silver_searcher

2014-01-26 Thread Kenjiro Nakayama
Hi, List Can anyone swap review or take it as sponsor? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1008063 Regards, Kenjiro Nakayama knaka...@redhat.com Red Hat K.K. Ebisu Neonato 8F, 1-18 Ebisu 4-chome, Shibuya-ku, Tokyo, Japan 150-0013 -- devel mailing list

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-26 Thread Alec Leamas
On 1/25/14, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 12:04 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: After hacking a simple tool which provides a GUI for a repository file it's possible to create repository packages complete with desktop and appdata file. I have some 5-10 such

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/23/2014 02:04 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 23 January 2014 12:37, David Howells dhowe...@redhat.com wrote: What constitutes an 'application' in this sense? Does 'gcc' count for instance? How about 'find'? No. In the AppStream and AppData definitions, a program is an application if it

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread drago01
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote: On 01/23/2014 02:04 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 23 January 2014 12:37, David Howells dhowe...@redhat.com wrote: What constitutes an 'application' in this sense? Does 'gcc' count for instance? How about 'find'?

Re: Review swap or Sponser request: the_silver_searcher

2014-01-26 Thread Matthias Runge
On 01/26/2014 09:09 AM, Kenjiro Nakayama wrote: Hi, List Can anyone swap review or take it as sponsor? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1008063 Kenjiro, in order to get a package approved, you must be the reporter of a review request. When looking for a sponsor, it

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/24/2014 03:41 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 21:35 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: David Sommerseth wrote: So, I wonder if it can be considered to enable a downgrade path for bluez and depending packages, as described in

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/26/2014 11:08 AM, drago01 wrote: gcc isn't an application in a sense of gui application so there is to ways to install it either the user installs an IDE which pulls it in as dep or he/she installs it using yum/dnf. Would it not be better to have a 'software center' that includes ALL

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Heiko Adams
Am Sonntag, den 26.01.2014, 12:14 +0100 schrieb Lars E. Pettersson: On 01/26/2014 11:08 AM, drago01 wrote: gcc isn't an application in a sense of gui application so there is to ways to install it either the user installs an IDE which pulls it in as dep or he/she installs it using yum/dnf.

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/26/2014 12:18 PM, Heiko Adams wrote: Am Sonntag, den 26.01.2014, 12:14 +0100 schrieb Lars E. Pettersson: ... Would it not be better to have a 'software center' that includes ALL software available, be they GUI related or not? Probably based on rpm-packages, as that is what our system

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Alec Leamas leamas.a...@gmail.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:22:36 AM Subject: Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes On 1/25/14, Adam Williamson

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-26 Thread Nikos Roussos
Thorsten Leemhuis fed...@leemhuis.info wrote: On 25.01.2014 17:35, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 11:20 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: Debian, who has a similar stance on non-free Software, does a way better job in that area than Fedora does. Well, not really - they don't

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-26 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 05:40:22PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 01:33:07AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: David Sommerseth wrote: So, I wonder if it can be considered to enable a downgrade path for bluez and depending packages, as described in the Contingency Plan:

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread drago01
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote: On 01/26/2014 11:08 AM, drago01 wrote: gcc isn't an application in a sense of gui application so there is to ways to install it either the user installs an IDE which pulls it in as dep or he/she installs it using

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Murphy wrote: I wouldn't ever expect this with a minor version or security update. I'd consider it a complete betrayal of software versioning to do this. In fact in certain instances of major version changes, downward compatibility of the file format is expected. The compatibility is

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-26 Thread Alec Leamas
On 1/26/14, Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com wrote: I feel obligated to comment on this. JPackage and Fedora have taken different routes years ago and installing JPackage rpm on top of Fedora will likely break Fedora packages due to: * additional OSGi metadata Fedora ships but JPackage

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Dominick Grift wrote: I did not mean to suggest that. I meant to suggest that SELinux would be able to contain the damage, referring to fatal in: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug And by what magic would it do that? SELinux cannot by its nature contain any damage of the the system is

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Reindl Harald wrote: i am not entirely sure how that is meant * disable the automatism to push to stable * forget the whole karma system at all in case of disable the automatism to push to stable i agree Even just doing that would be an improvement, but I still think the whole karma

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Lars E. Pettersson [26/01/2014 12:26] : Why is it not installed by default? The last time I used it, it had a number of bugs that made it unusable (bugs #883435 and bugs #949907 are the first that come to mind). Emmanuel -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 22:36:02 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Note there's a GUI tool similar to easy karma called gooey karma, waiting for a package sponsor. We don't sponsor packages but packagers. ;) Actually, the review request has stalled, waiting for the reviewer (here also the sponsor

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Les Howell
On Sun, 2014-01-26 at 12:14 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On 01/26/2014 11:08 AM, drago01 wrote: gcc isn't an application in a sense of gui application so there is to ways to install it either the user installs an IDE which pulls it in as dep or he/she installs it using yum/dnf.

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread drago01
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Les Howell hlhow...@pacbell.net wrote: On Sun, 2014-01-26 at 12:14 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On 01/26/2014 11:08 AM, drago01 wrote: gcc isn't an application in a sense of gui application so there is to ways to install it either the user installs an

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:57 AM, drago01 wrote: No this isn't an issue at all. No one is saying that non gui apps are useless or should be removed. The point is that gui installer installs gui apps. If you want to install a command line tool whats wrong with using the command line for

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.01.2014 18:01, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:57 AM, drago01 wrote: No this isn't an issue at all. No one is saying that non gui apps are useless or should be removed. The point is that gui installer installs gui apps. If you want to install a

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Heiko Adams
Am Sonntag, den 26.01.2014, 12:01 -0500 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: Hi On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:57 AM, drago01 wrote: No this isn't an issue at all. No one is saying that non gui apps are useless or should be removed. The point is that gui

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Michael Scherer
Le dimanche 26 janvier 2014 à 18:14 +0100, Heiko Adams a écrit : Am Sonntag, den 26.01.2014, 12:01 -0500 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: Hi On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:57 AM, drago01 wrote: No this isn't an issue at all. No one is saying that non gui apps are

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 17:28 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jan 25, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote: The reason is simple: lot's of software *changes* data as part of its normal functioning, including and often in rollback-incompatible ways. You cannot assume that

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 17:54 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jan 25, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: * Do an offline update that includes Foo v2.0 * Boot the updated system, run Foo, it migrates its configuration to some new scheme * Realize there was

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 15:04 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: Hi Simo, On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 14:55 -0500, Simo Sorce wrote: The reason is simple: lot's of software *changes* data as part of its normal functioning, including and often in rollback-incompatible ways. I wrote and maintain a

Libreoffice-voikko licensing change

2014-01-26 Thread Ville-Pekka Vainio
Hi, The licensing guidelines say that license changes should be announced on this list. In version 4.0 libreoffice-voikko changed from GPLv3+ to dual licensing, GPLv3+ or MPLv2.0. Libreoffice-voikko 4.0 requires libvoikko 3.7 which I built today, so it should be in tomorrow Rawhide compose.

Review swap: glyphicons-halflings-fonts RHBZ#1050805

2014-01-26 Thread Pete Travis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'd like to swap reviews with someone for a font I've packaged up[1] . [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1050805 - -- - -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanet...@fedoraproject.org

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.01.2014 20:56, schrieb Chris Murphy: What about mail application change the format of the mail folders ? Good question because I experienced this recently. So the way Apple does this on OS X with Mail, there is no such thing as a mail format change during the life of a major OS

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote: I never said it won't work in absolute, it probably will work ok in many cases, just to cause incredible issues in others. It is a fine tool in the hands of an expert that knows how to check whether reverting to a snapshot is

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.01.2014 21:13, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote: I never said it won't work in absolute, it probably will work ok in many cases, just to cause incredible issues in others. It is a fine tool in the hands of an expert that knows how

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sun, 2014-01-26 at 13:13 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote: I never said it won't work in absolute, it probably will work ok in many cases, just to cause incredible issues in others. It is a fine tool in the hands of an expert

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 26.01.2014 20:45, schrieb Chris Murphy: So ? It is only visible if you downgrade which a lot of software do not support and explicitly so The right way to do file format changes is you design the new format.

Re: I want to turn on a part of the kernel to make SELinux checking more stringent.

2014-01-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Slightly OT, but is SELinux stopping programs from executing code at address zero? (And how can I stop it doing that?) JONESFORTH, a public domain FORTH I wrote, is written in x86 assembler and prefers to put its threaded interpreter at address 0. This worked fine before, but has now stopped

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.01.2014 21:30, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Jan 26, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 26.01.2014 20:45, schrieb Chris Murphy: So ? It is only visible if you downgrade which a lot of software do not support and explicitly so The right way to do file format

Re: I want to turn on a part of the kernel to make SELinux checking more stringent.

2014-01-26 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Slightly OT, but is SELinux stopping programs from executing code at address zero? (And how can I stop it doing that?) JONESFORTH, a public domain FORTH I wrote, is written in x86 assembler and prefers to put its

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sun, 2014-01-26 at 12:45 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: I still really have no idea what sorts of changes you're talking about. I think you made it abundantly clear :-) I am also sure what I wanted to convey to people that understand what I am talking about is also clear. So I think the matter

Re: I want to turn on a part of the kernel to make SELinux checking more stringent.

2014-01-26 Thread drago01
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Slightly OT, but is SELinux stopping programs from executing code at address zero? (And how can I stop it doing that?) JONESFORTH, a public domain FORTH I wrote, is written in x86 assembler and prefers to put its

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 26.01.2014 20:56, schrieb Chris Murphy: What about mail application change the format of the mail folders ? Good question because I experienced this recently. So the way Apple does this on OS X with Mail, there

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.01.2014 21:56, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Well, the mail servers regularly get updated by the company I pay for such things, and I've never noticed the change. It uses IMAP so I don't think the server even cares,

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.01.2014 21:56, schrieb Chris Murphy: No you just have reading comprehension problem. The minor versions are compatible. The major versions aren't one last question: what are firefox updates 25-26-27 minor, major, dunno? more and more software has no minor/major splitting at all

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 26.01.2014 21:13, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote: I never said it won't work in absolute, it probably will work ok in many cases, just to cause incredible

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.01.2014 00:26, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 26.01.2014 21:13, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote: I never said it won't work in absolute, it probably will work ok in

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 26.01.2014 21:30, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Jan 26, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 26.01.2014 20:45, schrieb Chris Murphy: So ? It is only visible if you downgrade which a lot

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.01.2014 00:41, schrieb Chris Murphy: Great, well I'll tell you what. I will just keep living dangerously, and when I find a real world case of this, I'll file a bug. How about that? do that, your problem because nobody *can* know what exactly packages, versions are installed in which

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: do yourself and everybody a favour and * don't claim others are rude while you talk like above and worser half of the thread * don't talk about things above your technical scope * discuss with software engineers

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.01.2014 00:51, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: do yourself and everybody a favour and * don't claim others are rude while you talk like above and worser half of the thread * don't talk about things above your technical

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
I don't think this subthread is being particularly useful... And the personal attacks are undesirable. Please stop or at least take it to private email. Thanks, kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 27.01.2014 00:41, schrieb Chris Murphy: Great, well I'll tell you what. I will just keep living dangerously, and when I find a real world case of this, I'll file a bug. How about that? do that, your problem

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.01.2014 01:07, schrieb Chris Murphy: And then you propose a ridonkulous snapshot-rollback strategy that would for certain cause major problems if the rollback were actually done *the opposite is true because i WARNED of doing snapshots* signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.01.2014 00:57, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: I don't think this subthread is being particularly useful... And the personal attacks are undesirable. Please stop or at least take it to private email *sorry* for not early enough realize trolling in first start with the same argumentation as

guided/interactive/scripted tutorials

2014-01-26 Thread Ian Malone
I'm looking for something and not quite sure what it's called. In thinking about what the music SIG can do to add value I've hit on wondering whether it's possible to write desktop-based guided tutorials without having to interfere in the application in question itself (otherwise you have to

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 27.01.2014 00:51, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: do yourself and everybody a favour and * don't claim others are rude while you talk like above

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.01.2014 01:18, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 27.01.2014 00:51, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: do yourself and everybody a favour and * don't claim

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 27.01.2014 01:07, schrieb Chris Murphy: And then you propose a ridonkulous snapshot-rollback strategy that would for certain cause major problems if the rollback were actually done *the opposite is true

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 27.01.2014 01:18, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 27.01.2014 00:51, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Reindl Harald

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.01.2014 01:32, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 27.01.2014 01:18, schrieb Chris Murphy: You gave several examples of rollback-snapshot methods - same thing as you suggested them. I never said you requested them oh my

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 27.01.2014 01:32, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 27.01.2014 01:18, schrieb Chris Murphy: You gave several examples of rollback-snapshot methods -

Re: Snapshotting for rollback after updates was[ Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350]

2014-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.01.2014 02:11, schrieb Chris Murphy: i only just warned about cases where a rollback would do harm and to *make sure* that really no one would do it without take care That was my *entire* point going back around 36 hours ago and that is why i do not understand your turn around 180

icecat or/and firefox?

2014-01-26 Thread Christopher Meng
Hi, Here is an interesting package icecat[1], which is a more free version firefox. Do we allow this in Fedora now? Thanks. [1]--https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048493 -- Yours sincerely, Christopher Meng Noob here. http://cicku.me -- devel mailing list

Re: icecat or/and firefox?

2014-01-26 Thread punto...@libero.it
Il 27/01/2014 05:08, Christopher Meng ha scritto: Hi, Here is an interesting package icecat[1], which is a more free version firefox. Do we allow this in Fedora now? Thanks. [1]--https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048493 -- Yours sincerely, Christopher Meng Noob here.

Re: I want to turn on a part of the kernel to make SELinux checking more stringent.

2014-01-26 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 08:38:25PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: JONESFORTH, a public domain FORTH I wrote, is written in x86 assembler and prefers to put its threaded interpreter at address 0. Can you change its preference? Permitting the mapping of executable code at address 0 makes it

Re: icecat or/and firefox?

2014-01-26 Thread Kenjiro Nakayama
've tried, i prefer firefox... Actually firefox is easy to use and quick in developing. But please read [1]. icecat solves it, and that is why I want to use icecat in Fedora. [1] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html Kenjiro - 元のメッセージ - 差出人: punto...@libero.it 宛先:

Re: icecat or/and firefox?

2014-01-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Here is an interesting package icecat[1], which is a more free version firefox. Do we allow this in Fedora now? Thanks. [1]--https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048493 -- I would say we

Re: icecat or/and firefox?

2014-01-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/27/2014 05:08 AM, Christopher Meng wrote: Hi, Here is an interesting package icecat[1], which is a more free version firefox. Do we allow this in Fedora now? My view: It's a package like any arbitrary other. So, if it complies to the rules applied elsewhere, I don't see much reasons

Re: Source string contextualization

2014-01-26 Thread पराग़
Hi Nilamdyuti, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Nilamdyuti Goswami ngosw...@redhat.comwrote: Hi all, While translating some of the fedora packages we often come across some source strings whose context or meaning is not clear. This results in wrong translations which is discovered later

Re: Source string contextualization

2014-01-26 Thread Nilamdyuti Goswami
On 27-01-2014 12:34 অপৰাহ্ন, Parag N(पराग़) wrote: Hi Nilamdyuti, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Nilamdyuti Goswami ngosw...@redhat.com mailto:ngosw...@redhat.com wrote: Hi all, While translating some of the fedora packages we often come across some source strings whose

File Future-0.23.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by eseyman

2014-01-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Future: 8a7e7909cf2906fe785474e6a24bf314 Future-0.23.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Future] Update to 0.23

2014-01-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
commit e41c0c50a23fb60b21dd05146300e58b46490aaf Author: Emmanuel Seyman emman...@seyman.fr Date: Sun Jan 26 11:08:10 2014 +0100 Update to 0.23 .gitignore |1 + perl-Future.spec |5 - sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff

File Mojolicious-4.69.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by eseyman

2014-01-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Mojolicious: 4ed78d660f0fb705dff2a32ba77cef68 Mojolicious-4.69.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Mojolicious] Update to 4.69

2014-01-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
commit 3f934b4c41191a7799062442601d62abed4ba814 Author: Emmanuel Seyman emman...@seyman.fr Date: Sun Jan 26 11:17:00 2014 +0100 Update to 4.69 .gitignore|1 + perl-Mojolicious.spec |5 - sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2

File URI-Escape-XS-0.11.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by eseyman

2014-01-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
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[perl-URI-Escape-XS] Update to 0.11

2014-01-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
commit d9f461c13fc88b5f3b56a0ba775cd8f11a2344e5 Author: Emmanuel Seyman emman...@seyman.fr Date: Sun Jan 26 11:22:02 2014 +0100 Update to 0.11 .gitignore |1 + perl-URI-Escape-XS.spec |7 +-- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3

File Locale-Maketext-Lexicon-0.98.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by corsepiu

2014-01-26 Thread corsepiu
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon: d7011e111e945251ebdaad9a73910eea Locale-Maketext-Lexicon-0.98.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon] Upstream update.

2014-01-26 Thread corsepiu
commit a2b93b9a8ef5d455517ea14c5426709878e0dce8 Author: Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org Date: Sun Jan 26 11:47:51 2014 +0100 Upstream update. .gitignore|2 +- perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon.spec |7 +-- sources |2

Broken dependencies: perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu

2014-01-26 Thread buildsys
perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires perl(HTML::FormFu::MultiForm) On i386: perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires

Broken dependencies: perl-qpid_proton

2014-01-26 Thread buildsys
perl-qpid_proton has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-qpid_proton-0.6-1.fc21.x86_64 requires perl(qpid_proton) perl-qpid_proton-0.6-1.fc21.x86_64 requires perl(qpid::proton::ExceptionHandling) On i386: perl-qpid_proton-0.6-1.fc21.i686 requires

Broken dependencies: mojomojo

2014-01-26 Thread buildsys
mojomojo has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA) On i386: mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA) On armhfp: mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch

Broken dependencies: perl-Language-Expr

2014-01-26 Thread buildsys
perl-Language-Expr has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2) On i386: perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2) On armhfp:

[Bug 1058004] New: perl-Event-RPC-1.04 is available

2014-01-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1058004 Bug ID: 1058004 Summary: perl-Event-RPC-1.04 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Event-RPC Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Assignee:

[Bug 1058005] New: perl-File-Fetch-0.48 is available

2014-01-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1058005 Bug ID: 1058005 Summary: perl-File-Fetch-0.48 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-File-Fetch Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Assignee:

[Bug 1058007] New: perl-Module-Load-Conditional-0.62 is available

2014-01-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1058007 Bug ID: 1058007 Summary: perl-Module-Load-Conditional-0.62 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Module-Load-Conditional Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged

[Bug 1058006] New: perl-Module-Load-0.30 is available

2014-01-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1058006 Bug ID: 1058006 Summary: perl-Module-Load-0.30 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Module-Load Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Assignee:

[Bug 1058009] New: perl-Text-CSV_XS-1.03 is available

2014-01-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1058009 Bug ID: 1058009 Summary: perl-Text-CSV_XS-1.03 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Text-CSV_XS Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Assignee:

[perl-Array-Diff] Get rid of pointless in-place edit flag in perl filter invocation

2014-01-26 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 50739827cfe5c1b4a14a4aaa16b10f73173ed6c1 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Sun Jan 26 13:33:14 2014 + Get rid of pointless in-place edit flag in perl filter invocation perl-Array-Diff.spec |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git

[perl-File-chdir/el6] (16 commits) ...Merge branch 'master' (early part) into el6

2014-01-26 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 67c10db... Fix typo that causes a failure to update the common directo (*) 419207d... - rebuild against perl 5.10.1 (*) 2ce0679... - Mass rebuild with perl-5.12.0 (*) 7d5fa1b... - Mass rebuild with perl-5.12.0 (*) 331023d... dist-git conversion (*) b74b87c... -

[perl-File-chdir/el6: 16/16] Merge branch 'master' (early part) into el6

2014-01-26 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 6dcec5345e8789fb548e449ad1d05377677e354c Merge: a32694e 4531d0f Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Sun Jan 26 14:00:36 2014 + Merge branch 'master' (early part) into el6 Conflicts: .gitignore .gitignore |2 +- perl-File-chdir.spec | 68

[perl-File-chdir] Created tag perl-File-chdir-0.1008-1.el6

2014-01-26 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-File-chdir-0.1008-1.el6' was created pointing to: 6dcec53... Merge branch 'master' (early part) into el6 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 1033515] Retire perl-Class-Data-Inheritable in EPEL6

2014-01-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033515 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||p...@city-fan.org

[Bug 1033514] Retire perl-Class-Accessor in EPEL6

2014-01-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033514 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||p...@city-fan.org