EPEL epel beta report: 20140413 changes

2014-04-13 Thread EPEL Beta Report
Compose started at Sun Apr 13 08:15:03 UTC 2014 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 2ping-2.0-2.el7.noarch requires perl(Digest::CRC) RemoteBox-1.7-1.el7.noarch requires rdesktop RemoteBox-1.7-1.el7.noarch requires perl-Gtk2

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread William Brown
On Sat, 2014-04-12 at 17:46 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:18 PM, William Brown will...@firstyear.id.au wrote: Now can we go back to actually discussion technical arguments again? Actually no. This whole thread has forgotten one major thing ... use cases.

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 06:35 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: and if you believe that in a not trustable network you don't know if you get the signing informations at all - fine, but you hardly an enforce that with a local software That is the WHOLE point of DNSSEC, really. if i control the

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 00:52 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2014-04-12 16:12 (GMT-0400) Simo Sorce composed: On Sat, 2014-04-12 at 13:11 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: I've been doing that myself for years on installations that think my ethernet-only non-wireless LAN host connections need managing

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 16:10 +0930, William Brown wrote: A system wide resolver I am not opposed to. I am against a system wide *caching* resolver. In this case, a cache *is* helpful, as is DNSSEC. But for the other 6, a cache is a severe detriment. About the above 2, can you explain *why*

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.04.2014 08:42, schrieb Simo Sorce: * DNS cache should be flushed on route or interface state change. I do not see why, the only reason to flush a cache is when there is a DNS change (new interface, eg VPN coming up, or going away) because if i change my routing from ISP to VPN i want

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread William Brown
Proposal is to add a local caching DNS server to fedora systems. This may or may not accept a DHCP provided forwarder(?). Yes. It depends on the trustworthiness of the network and or preconfiguration of some of your own networks you join. Not really: Every network you join, you have to

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread William Brown
On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 02:53 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 16:10 +0930, William Brown wrote: A system wide resolver I am not opposed to. I am against a system wide *caching* resolver. In this case, a cache *is* helpful, as is DNSSEC. But for the other 6, a cache is a

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread William Brown
On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 16:39 +0930, William Brown wrote: On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 02:53 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 16:10 +0930, William Brown wrote: A system wide resolver I am not opposed to. I am against a system wide *caching* resolver. In this case, a cache

appdata handling

2014-04-13 Thread Markus Mayer
A new version of a package I maintain added an appdata.xml. As I haven't handled such files before, I looked up the internet for some information. The only helpful hint I found, was a commit adding appdata support to the qt-creator package in fedora git. [1] As more packages will add appdata

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Björn Persson
William Brown wrote: The cache is never fully flushed. It is only flushed for the domain obtained via DHCP or VPN, because those entries can change. They are not changed for anything else. If the upstream ISP could have spoofed them, so be it - the publisher of the domains could have used

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Björn Persson
William Brown wrote: In businesses, it's also common place to have a low-ish ttl (Say 5 minutes) and when a system is migrated, they swap the A/ records to the new system. The dns servers on the network are updated, but the workstation has the old record cached. Without a local cache, they

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
william wrote: [...] Internal and external zone views in a business. These records may different, and so would need flushing between network interface state changes. Sure, let's make it easy to restart the cache upon such transitions. Additionally, local DNS caches may issues and delay

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014, William Brown wrote: Yes. It depends on the trustworthiness of the network and or preconfiguration of some of your own networks you join. Not really: Every network you join, you have to semi-trust. If you don't trust it, why did you join it? You don't always control

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014, William Brown wrote: PS: It also seemed like the proposal was to *bypass* the networks provided forwarders from DHCP. This *is* a serious issue if it's the case. We only bypass DHCP provided forwarders that are broken. We actually WANT to use them as much as possible,

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 16:29 +0930, William Brown wrote: That depends. You need caching for DNSSEC validation, so really, every device needs a cache, unless you want to outsource your DNSSEC validation over an insecure transport (LAN). That seems like a very bad idea. If your lan is

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 04:12:41PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: So you've gone out of your way to run a daemon but prevent it from working as configured, instead of just reconfiguring it to do what you need. I have to go out of my way to *stop* NetworkManager from running and to configure a fixed

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 16:39 +0930, William Brown wrote: On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 02:53 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 16:10 +0930, William Brown wrote: A system wide resolver I am not opposed to. I am against a system wide *caching* resolver. In this case, a cache

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 18:18 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 04:12:41PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: So you've gone out of your way to run a daemon but prevent it from working as configured, instead of just reconfiguring it to do what you need. I have to go out of my

Re: Orphaning java-1.5.0-gcj

2014-04-13 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 18:29 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: On 04/07/2014 03:23 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: There have been a few discussions about this in the past but no action. With feature freeze approaching for F21, I think this is a good time to address this. I will be orphaning

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: So you've gone out of your way to run a daemon but prevent it from working as configured, instead of just reconfiguring it to do what you need. I have to go out of my way to *stop* NetworkManager from running and to configure a fixed IP address.

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Unfortunately NetworkManager can't handle brief network outages without dropping the connection (RHBZ#1022954 comment 3). This isn't desirable for servers that have ethernet and fixed IP addresses.

New configurations in /etc/resolv.conf

2014-04-13 Thread P J P
  Hello, Please see:   - http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dane/current/msg06469.html   - https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dane/current/msg06658.html These two threads are about handling of Authenticated Data(AD) bit by the stub resolvers. There two proposed solutions for this problem:

Re: fedora-atomic discussion point: /usr/lib/passwd

2014-04-13 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 04/11/2014 05:19 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Fri, 11.04.14 19:05, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: There is broad agreement that future access to the user database database (both reading and writing) will be through sssd[1], and that the data model of /etc/{passwd,shadow} is too

Re: appdata handling

2014-04-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 02:21:03PM +0200, Markus Mayer wrote: A new version of a package I maintain added an appdata.xml. As I haven't handled such files before, I looked up the internet for some information. The only helpful hint I found, was a commit adding appdata support to the qt-creator

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread William Brown
But you can't account for every captive portal in the world. This is why the cache is a bad idea, because you can't possibly account for every system that is captive like this. Yes we can by monitoring for captivity signs when a new network is joined. Again, please yum install

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014, William Brown wrote: What is a captivity-sign as you so put it? Check for clean port 80. It fetches the url specified in dnssec-triggerd.conf's url: option (default http://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt) If it returns a redirect or a page that does not contain the

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread William Brown
On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 00:42 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2014, William Brown wrote: What is a captivity-sign as you so put it? Check for clean port 80. It fetches the url specified in dnssec-triggerd.conf's url: option (default http://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt)

File Mojolicious-4.93.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by eseyman

2014-04-13 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Mojolicious: c35b941873cf115ec9a59e901d102e7e Mojolicious-4.93.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Mojolicious] Update to 4.93

2014-04-13 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
commit af9bf5a347a06294dfd460994d617314f3d669f6 Author: Emmanuel Seyman emman...@seyman.fr Date: Sun Apr 13 10:17:36 2014 +0200 Update to 4.93 .gitignore|1 + perl-Mojolicious.spec |5 - sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2

[Bug 1087029] New: Please branch for el6

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1087029 Bug ID: 1087029 Summary: Please branch for el6 Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-CPAN-Meta Severity: low Assignee: iarn...@gmail.com Reporter:

Broken dependencies: perl-PDL

2014-04-13 Thread buildsys
perl-PDL has broken dependencies in the epel-7 tree: On ppc64: perl-PDL-2.7.0-2.el7.1.ppc64 requires perl(PDL::Slatec) Please resolve this as soon as possible. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[Bug 1087029] Please branch for el6

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1087029 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||p...@city-fan.org

[Bug 1087029] Please branch for el6

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1087029 David Dick dd...@cpan.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED

Broken dependencies: mojomojo

2014-04-13 Thread buildsys
mojomojo has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA) On i386: mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA) On armhfp: mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch

Broken dependencies: perl-Language-Expr

2014-04-13 Thread buildsys
perl-Language-Expr has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2) On i386: perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2) On armhfp:

Broken dependencies: perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu

2014-04-13 Thread buildsys
perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires perl(HTML::FormFu::MultiForm) On i386: perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires

Broken dependencies: perl-GnuPG-Interface

2014-04-13 Thread buildsys
perl-GnuPG-Interface has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-GnuPG-Interface-0.50-1.fc21.noarch requires perl(MooX::late) On i386: perl-GnuPG-Interface-0.50-1.fc21.noarch requires perl(MooX::late) On armhfp: perl-GnuPG-Interface-0.50-1.fc21.noarch

[Bug 1087087] New: Apache-LogFormat-Compiler-0.30 is available

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1087087 Bug ID: 1087087 Summary: Apache-LogFormat-Compiler-0.30 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Apache-LogFormat-Compiler Assignee: rc040...@freenet.de

[Bug 1087087] Apache-LogFormat-Compiler-0.30 is available

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1087087 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de changed: What|Removed |Added Depends On||1087085

[Bug 1085905] perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema-0.61-1.fc21 FTBFS

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1085905 --- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema-0.61-2.fc20 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 20.

[Bug 1085905] perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema-0.61-1.fc21 FTBFS

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1085905 --- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema-0.60-5.fc19 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 19.

[Bug 1085905] perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema-0.61-1.fc21 FTBFS

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1085905 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED|ASSIGNED Fixed In