Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys

2014-09-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 09:00 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 10:06 +0200, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > > Unfortunately only NSS works. Both openssl and gnutls fail to connect to > > popular sites because of that change. It should not be assumed that the > > users of ca-ce

Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys

2014-09-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 10:06 +0200, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > Unfortunately only NSS works. Both openssl and gnutls fail to connect to > popular sites because of that change. It should not be assumed that the > users of ca-certificates are only programs using nss. No-one working on ca-certi

Re: Nonresponsive mai­ntai­ner: Takanori Matsu­ura

2014-09-08 Thread Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich
As a FESCo member I am acking this part of the process. I have orphaned: CQRlib CVector NearTree autoconf-archive Thanks. Taken: CQRlib CVector NearTree Talking about autoconf-archive, may be move information about it's orphaning in new separate thread? Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich -- devel m

[Test-Announce] 2014-09-10 @ 16:00 UTC ** F21 Blocker Review

2014-09-08 Thread Mike Ruckman
# F21 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2014-09-10 # Time: 16:00 UTC (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT) # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net It's everyones favorite time of the week! Our next blocker review meeting will be this Wednesday (as usual). As of right now, we have 2 proposed blockers

Re: The Shimmer Project - Desktop Suites & GTK+ 3

2014-09-08 Thread poma
On 08.09.2014 20:41, Satyajit Sahoo wrote: > Hi. With GTK3.14 I presume? Can you send pull requests? To be precise these changes are related to gtk+-3.13.3 up to gtk+-3.13.7. Fedora.next is currently at gtk3-3.13.8. I'm sending patches out of the list. Be free to change the patches if necessary.

Re: Future changes in the new package and new branch processes

2014-09-08 Thread Christopher
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Tomas Tomecek wrote: > Quoting Pierre-Yves Chibon (2014-09-05 17:08:39) > > New procedure > > = > > > > * packager opens a review-request on bugzilla > > * reviewer sets the fedora-review flag to ? > > * reviewer does the review > > * reviewer sets the

The Shimmer Project - Desktop Suites & GTK+ 3

2014-09-08 Thread poma
Hi Fi fratelli artisti! Guys, please consider to update these three super duper very cool mega awesome themes, Albatross http://shimmerproject.org/project/albatross Bluebird http://shimmerproject.org/project/bluebird Greybird http://shimmerproject.org/project/greybird Here are the patches that

FMN Announcement: Plans for a (near) future

2014-09-08 Thread Ralph Bean
Dear all, We would like to invite you to take a closer look at the Fedora Notification service: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/ This service will allow you to customize the notifications you receive, you may ask it to send you IRC notification for successfull koji builds and email n

Re: The Shimmer Project - Desktop Suites & GTK+ 3

2014-09-08 Thread Satyajit Sahoo
Hi. With GTK3.14 I presume? Can you send pull requests? On 9 September 2014 00:09, poma wrote: > > Hi Fi fratelli artisti! > > Guys, please consider to update these three super duper very cool mega > awesome themes, > Albatross > http://shimmerproject.org/project/albatross > Bluebird > http://sh

Re: Bodhi-Problem? -> Firefox 32 / Thunderbird 31.1

2014-09-08 Thread Andre Robatino
Rex Dieter math.unl.edu> writes: > * go ahead and push it to -testing, better than waiting not getting pushed > anywhere +1 > * possible policy change: require all updates to get pushed to -testing > initially, regardless of karma If something needs urgent testing to get pushed to stable ASA

Re: Future changes in the new package and new branch processes

2014-09-08 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 06:46:10PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 09/08/2014 06:12 PM, Till Maas wrote: > >On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 05:23:15AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > >>I think the only safe way is to create an empty branch and not to populate > >>it, because there are many constraints

Re: Future changes in the new package and new branch processes

2014-09-08 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 06:46:10PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 09/08/2014 06:12 PM, Till Maas wrote: > >This is also what is done initially, when a new > >repo is set up. "Empty branches", i.e. only the ACL but no commit in the > >branch might lead to maintainers accidentally creating the wr

Re: Future changes in the new package and new branch processes

2014-09-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/08/2014 06:12 PM, Till Maas wrote: On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 05:23:15AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I think the only safe way is to create an empty branch and not to populate it, because there are many constraints to be considered before a package can My proposal is to point new branches

Re: Future changes in the new package and new branch processes

2014-09-08 Thread Till Maas
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 05:23:15AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > I think the only safe way is to create an empty branch and not to populate > it, because there are many constraints to be considered before a package can My proposal is to point new branches to the first commit in the master branch

Re: Samba as AD DC

2014-09-08 Thread Simone Caronni
Hello, 2014-09-07 14:58 GMT-03:00 Simo Sorce : > > On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 01:12 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote: >> > Is (Samba) Fedora 20 still not capable of being Active Directory Domain >> > Controller? >> >> It is current, and Samba in F20 will never have the AD bits. >> Maybe F22, or perhaps even

Re: [Base] Terminology for docker/atomic images

2014-09-08 Thread Václav Pavlín
On 8.9.2014 16:03, Dusty Mabe wrote: On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 09:29:12AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Sun, Sep 7, 2014, at 11:22 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: In a nutshell, it would be great if we added "Container" to references we make to the container image (in conversation and docs). I tend to s

Re: Dist-git for Copr

2014-09-08 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 15:05 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > On 09/04/2014 06:28 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > ok. Lets back up here before we start talking implementation... > > > > What would be in this dist-git? > > Everything what is going to be built in Copr. Does it mean the only way to build in

Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys

2014-09-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 17:07 +0200, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > I understand but this is not the case here. The internet isn't broken > because of gnutls and openssl have some limitation, but because the > current NSS derived ca-certificates work assume the NSS validation > strategy. This shoul

Re: Dist-git for Copr

2014-09-08 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 17:22:32 +0200 drago01 wrote: > On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Dennis Gilmore > wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Thu, 04 Sep 2014 17:34:57 +0200 > > Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >>

Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys

2014-09-08 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 09:00 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > I guess this is verification based on the rfc5280 path validation. > > Unlike that NSS ignores the provided trust chain and tries to construct > > a new one internally. That's interesting and happens to work around the > > issue here

Re: Bodhi-Problem? -> Firefox 32 / Thunderbird 31.1

2014-09-08 Thread Rex Dieter
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > 0) The autoqa note above. The maintainer could override that and push > to testing. > > 1) The update got karma to go stable before it was even pushed to > testing, so it's not gone into testing. I think in the case of these 2 happening at the same time, I'd argue bodhi can

Re: Nonresponsive mai­ntai­ner: Takanori Matsu­ura

2014-09-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 11:59:48 +0700 "Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich" wrote: > > Takanori Matsuura (fas: tmatssu) cant be reached for a long time. > There are no reply on email, in bugreport [1], there are no koji > builds [2], even more, from the previous message, Jiro Matsuzawa tell > he contact him pers

Re: [Base] Terminology for docker/atomic images

2014-09-08 Thread Dusty Mabe
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 09:28:20AM -0400, Adam Young wrote: > On 09/07/2014 11:22 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > >Hi All, > > > >Per discussion in the #fedora-cloud meeting last Friday I would like to > >start a thread about the names of the Docker and Atomic deliverables for F21. > > > >I know of at leas

[POC-change] Fedora packages point of contact updates

2014-09-08 Thread nobody
Change in package status over the last 168 hours 35 packages were orphaned - ORBit2 [f19, f20] was orphaned by mclasen A high-performance CORBA Object Request Broker https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/ORB

Re: [Base] Terminology for docker/atomic images

2014-09-08 Thread Dusty Mabe
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 09:29:12AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014, at 11:22 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > > In a nutshell, it would be great if we added "Container" to references we > > make to the container image (in conversation and docs). > > I tend to say "Docker Base Image"

Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys

2014-09-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 10:06 +0200, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > Unfortunately only NSS works. Both openssl and gnutls fail to connect to > popular sites because of that change. It should not be assumed that the > users of ca-certificates are only programs using nss. [1] is an interesting read.

Re: New Group Calls For Boycotting Systemd

2014-09-08 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 08:36:21AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 22:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > - has tools for setting the system time and timezone, and locale > > > > Sure. They're useful. > > In GNOME, our settings panels previously only worked on Fedora a

Re: New Group Calls For Boycotting Systemd

2014-09-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 22:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > - has tools for setting the system time and timezone, and locale > > Sure. They're useful. In GNOME, our settings panels previously only worked on Fedora and Debian, with some half-functional code for Arch and openSUSE, because each d

Re: New Group Calls For Boycotting Systemd

2014-09-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 22:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > - intercepts coredumps > > not on Fedora, abrt does that. It's on the roadmap. coredumpctl is really great, and it's wonderful that the ABRT devs are working on this. I don't care too much about the rest of systemd, but coredumpctl m

Re: [Base] Terminology for docker/atomic images

2014-09-08 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014, at 11:22 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > In a nutshell, it would be great if we added "Container" to references we > make to the container image (in conversation and docs). I tend to say "Docker Base Image" - that's the terminology upstream Docker uses: https://docs.docker.com/arti

Re: Bodhi-Problem? -> Firefox 32 / Thunderbird 31.1

2014-09-08 Thread quickbooks office
There are currently "208 Pending Updates" https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F20/pending On the left column it shows 112 pending updates. I have never seen it go down to zero? On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 20:24:58 +0200 > Reindl Harald wrote: >

F-21 Branched report: 20140908 changes

2014-09-08 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Mon Sep 8 07:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [APLpy] APLpy-0.9.8-5.fc21.noarch requires pywcs [PyKDE] PyKDE-3.16.6-14.fc20.armv7hl requires sip-api(10) >= 0:10.0 [PyQuante] PyQuante-libint-

Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys

2014-09-08 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 6.9.2014 01:58, Kai Engert napsal(a): > On Tue, 2014-08-26 at 12:36 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> $ gem fetch power_assert >> ERROR: Could not find a valid gem 'power_assert' (>= 0), here is why: >> Unable to download data from https://rubygems.org/ - >> SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0

Re: blivet-gui announcement

2014-09-08 Thread Vratislav Podzimek
On Sat, 2014-09-06 at 00:34 +1000, Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 11:05 +0200, Vratislav Podzimek wrote: > > P.S. Do you know about any other mailing lists or individuals that may > > be interested in this announcement? Feel free to forward the message > > and > > spread the word! > >

rawhide report: 20140908 changes

2014-09-08 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Broken deps for i386 -- [APLpy] APLpy-0.9.8-5.fc21.noarch requires pywcs [PyQuante] PyQuante-libint-1.6.4-11.fc22.1.i686 requires libint(x86-32) = 0:1.1.6-2.fc21 [audtty] audtty-0.1.12-9.fc20.i686 requires libaudclient

Re: Unresponsive maintainer Germán Racca (skytux)

2014-09-08 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 12:20:49PM +0200, Sergio Pascual wrote: >Mid July? >2014-09-08 12:17 GMT+02:00 Itamar Reis Peixoto : > > how long you requested commit access in pkgdb ? > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/APLpy/ 2014-06-18 10:28:01 user: sergiopr set for se

Re: Unresponsive maintainer Germán Racca (skytux)

2014-09-08 Thread Sergio Pascual
Mid July? 2014-09-08 12:17 GMT+02:00 Itamar Reis Peixoto : > how long you requested commit access in pkgdb ? > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/APLpy/ > > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Sergio Pascual > wrote: > >> Hello, the past week I requested to take the package APLpy, fol

Fwd: Unresponsive maintainer Germán Racca (skytux)

2014-09-08 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
Germán do you have a answer for Sergio ? -- Forwarded message -- From: Sergio Pascual Date: Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:13 AM Subject: Re: Unresponsive maintainer Germán Racca (skytux) To: Development discussions related to Fedora Hello, the past week I requested to take the package

Re: Unresponsive maintainer Germán Racca (skytux)

2014-09-08 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
how long you requested commit access in pkgdb ? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/APLpy/ On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Sergio Pascual wrote: > Hello, the past week I requested to take the package APLpy, following the > nonresponsive maintainer policy. Apart of writing to the deve

Re: Unresponsive maintainer Germán Racca (skytux)

2014-09-08 Thread Sergio Pascual
Hello, the past week I requested to take the package APLpy, following the nonresponsive maintainer policy. Apart of writing to the devel list, is there anything more I have to do to move this forward? 2014-09-01 23:47 GMT+02:00 Sergio Pascual : > The last week I asked if somebody knows how to con

Re: Future changes in the new package and new branch processes

2014-09-08 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 11:31:58AM +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote: > Quoting Pierre-Yves Chibon (2014-09-05 17:08:39) > > New procedure > > = > > > > * packager opens a review-request on bugzilla > > * reviewer sets the fedora-review flag to ? > > * reviewer does the review > > * reviewer

Re: Future changes in the new package and new branch processes

2014-09-08 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 10:15:33AM +0100, David Howells wrote: > Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > * packager creates the scm-request and set fedora-cvs flag to ? > > I find this step counter intuitive. I accidentally set it to '+' rather than > '?' and then was confused about why things weren't

Re: Future changes in the new package and new branch processes

2014-09-08 Thread Tomas Tomecek
Quoting Pierre-Yves Chibon (2014-09-05 17:08:39) > New procedure > = > > * packager opens a review-request on bugzilla > * reviewer sets the fedora-review flag to ? > * reviewer does the review > * reviewer sets the fedora-review flag to + > * packager goes to pkgdb2 to request new pac

Re: Future changes in the new package and new branch processes

2014-09-08 Thread David Howells
Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > * packager creates the scm-request and set fedora-cvs flag to ? I find this step counter intuitive. I accidentally set it to '+' rather than '?' and then was confused about why things weren't progressing. Can it be split into two flags? On requesting git creation a

Re: New Group Calls For Boycotting Systemd

2014-09-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.09.2014 um 10:43 schrieb Richard W.M. Jones: > On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 10:26:44AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> so *what* is your problem by a unit knowing "i must not run now" > > What open-vm-tools needs is a system feature known as the "VMware > backdoor". This is provided by other hyp

Re: New Group Calls For Boycotting Systemd

2014-09-08 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 10:26:44AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > so *what* is your problem by a unit knowing "i must not run now" What open-vm-tools needs is a system feature known as the "VMware backdoor". This is provided by other hypervisors too (notably qemu). If you look at Hyper-V, it prov

Re: what is the latest kernel in FC20?

2014-09-08 Thread P J P
On Sunday, 7 September 2014 1:34 PM, "Pál, László" wrote: >Yes, it was yum but I have the same for dnf. The error message is installed >package is not available (both for kernel and headers). How much time needed >to able to install a package after pushed to stable? Well, once pushed to stable,

Re: New Group Calls For Boycotting Systemd

2014-09-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.09.2014 um 09:43 schrieb Richard W.M. Jones: > On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 10:18:45PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> - detects virtualization (long story here, but a very bad idea to >>>encourage programs to do this) >> >> I don't believe any Fedora units use this ability. It's there fo

Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys

2014-09-08 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Sat, 2014-09-06 at 01:58 +0200, Kai Engert wrote: > The failure is with the s3.amazonaws.com host. > Looking at the certificates the server sends: > $ openssl s_client -showcerts -connect s3.amazonaws.com:443 2>&1 \ > |egrep " s:| i:" > 0 s:/C=US/ST=Washington/L=Seattle/O=Amazon.com Inc./CN

Re: New Group Calls For Boycotting Systemd

2014-09-08 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I think FESCO underestimates the problem in that case. FESCO should ask that these packages are separate (exist as different components) and communicate with the rest of the system / systemd through fully specified interfaces. Linux improves because of a brutal Darwinian selection process where

Re: New Group Calls For Boycotting Systemd

2014-09-08 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 10:18:45PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 18:49 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 06:54:03PM -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > > > > > We need to decide if ju