i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Josh Boyer
Hello Fellow Contributors!

Our kernel team has been adrift in bugs roughly forever. The time we
spend on triage is time we don't get to spend fixing substantial bugs
on hardware lots of people are using, especially new/emergent
hardware. We have spoken previously about the difficulty of kernel bug
triage as a Fedora effort, and also about future kernel direction at
Flock 2014[1].

The Fedora kernel engineers are taking a new approach we think will
result in a better kernel overall. We can do more substantial fixes
for users, have more interaction upstream, and minimize burnout for
the team members. Not coincidentally, we think this will
correspondingly strengthen relations between Fedora and kernel
communities. We enjoy a healthy relationship there, but we're always
looking to do better.

If we pursue the goal of fixing bugs based on impact, we can enjoy
these benefits. We see impact as a combination of incidence rate and
criticality. But as with all things there are tradeoffs. One of the
tradeoffs we foresee is that i686 bugs are unlikely to rise to such a
high level of impact. Plenty of bugs are common across architectures,
and fixing those bugs will benefit i686 too.

This is an opportunity for community members for whom i686 is a
passion to join the team to participate in the bugfixing required. We
previously called out the need for assistance[2], but had no
substantial response. We hope that being transparent about our
priorities will prompt interested community members to help. If you
are interested to help, here are some resources to get started:

* Kernel team wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel --
includes mailing list and IRC information
* Bugzilla query: http://tinyurl.com/k6zhz34 -- some example bugs that
could use your help

It's possible down the road that, if there is no community interest in
i686, the project might look at other options such as making i686 a
secondary architecture. This is not because we want to drive away
32-bit users; but we're passionate about making the Fedora kernel work
well for the majority of our user base. This prioritization helps us
get closer to that goal.

Our Fedora kernel engineers are devoted full time to supporting
Fedora. Just as any other community members, we have to choose where
to spend our cycles because those cycles are finite. With this
strategy we think we can make Fedora a better system overall, across
all our editions.

Thanks

josh, for the Fedora Kernel Team

[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9E0FF4XFDw
[2] http://jwboyer.livejournal.com/49909.html
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Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Peter Robinson
 This is an opportunity for community members for whom i686 is a
 passion to join the team to participate in the bugfixing required.
 We previously called out the need for assistance[2], but had no
 substantial response. We hope that being transparent about our
 priorities will prompt interested community members to help. If you
 are interested to help, here are some resources to get started:
 snip

 Given our past history with passive requests for help, I think it
 might be beneficial to put a time limit on things. For example, if no
 i686 Kernel SIG steps up and agrees to handle bugs on that platform,
 we should strongly consider demoting i686 to secondary architecture
 for installation media at the Fedora 23 branch point (about six months
 from now).

 Note: I'm only suggesting that we would demote the kernel and install
 media, *NOT* the 32-bit runtime libraries on an x86_64 system; we
 would still need to be building those.

How do you propose demoting to secondary only the kernel/install
without the userspace? Do you mean de-emphasise the i686 bit platform?

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Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson


On 02/25/2015 01:50 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:

i686 Kernel SIG steps up and agrees to handle bugs on that platform


Interesting so you are saying that the kernel sub community is 
effectively only x86_64


If you are going down that road you better ask for every arch kernel 
SIG to emerge or step up in the process.


Where does ARM fit in this plan

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Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Ali AlipourR alipoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

The kernel itself isn't limited.  It's just set that way in
/usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-default.conf which is provided by systemd.  You
can edit that file, create your own in /etc/sysctrl.d/, or (as root)
set it to whatever you would like via /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq.

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[perl-UNIVERSAL-require/f22] Update to 0.18

2015-02-25 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes:

  c157510... Update to 0.18 (*)

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[PkgDB] limb updated perl-Monitoring-Plugin

2015-02-25 Thread pkgdb
user: limb created branch epel7 on package perl-Monitoring-Plugin

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Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
 i686 Kernel SIG steps up and agrees to handle bugs on that platform


 Interesting so you are saying that the kernel sub community is effectively
 only x86_64

 If you are going down that road you better ask for every arch kernel SIG
 to emerge or step up in the process.

 Where does ARM fit in this plan

 The ARM SIG has always been primary on the ARM kernel and associated issues.

 For that matter so have aarch64/ppc64/s390 SIGs

Yes, and they are model examples of teams passionate about something
and working towards it.  I try and give all the credit for the success
of those architectures to those teams whenever possible.  The Fedora
kernel engineers do very very little for those kernels, so a hearty
thank you once more.

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Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Peter Robinson
 i686 Kernel SIG steps up and agrees to handle bugs on that platform


 Interesting so you are saying that the kernel sub community is
 effectively
 only x86_64

 If you are going down that road you better ask for every arch kernel
 SIG
 to emerge or step up in the process.

 Where does ARM fit in this plan

 The ARM SIG has always been primary on the ARM kernel and associated
 issues.

 For that matter so have aarch64/ppc64/s390 SIGs


 Should not the kernel list be renamed to x86_64 to be in-line with and
 follow the tradition of the other architectures mailinglist setup?

No, if you read the list archives there's discussions across all
architectures about the kernel there, the arch SIG lists cover
userspace, testing and other things other than just kernel.

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Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Ali AlipourR alipoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

 The kernel itself isn't limited.  It's just set that way in
 /usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-default.conf which is provided by systemd.  You
 can edit that file, create your own in /etc/sysctrl.d/, or (as root)
 set it to whatever you would like via /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq.

 Of course it can be changed at runtime, but I mean why official fedora
 kernel shouldn't be configured to allow all (or at least a wider
 subset) of sysrq commands by default?

Maybe we're getting hung up on a terminology issue, but this isn't a
kernel configuration issue.  It's something userspace is doing.

 This way official fedora live CDs are unsuitable for system recovery
 tasks; you have to change sysrq value every time you use live CDs or
 build your own live CD.

That's a good point.  Since the live images have a rescue mode,
maybe there is a way to use a different value when booted into that.
How that would look, I'm not sure.  Maybe dracut would need to include
an override file in the initramfs.

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[Bug 1196050] perl-Params-Validate-1.18 testsuite failure on f20

2015-02-25 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1196050



--- Comment #6 from Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org ---
Updates built and submitted, along with buildroot overrides, which are now in
the F-20 buildroot so you should be able to build in koji now.

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[Bug 1196195] perl-Pod-Spell-1.16 is available

2015-02-25 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1196195



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Scratch build succeeded
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=9069407

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Re: repo-mirrorlist quality control?

2015-02-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 02/25/2015 01:49 PM, Richard Z wrote:

Hi,

when doing yum update in the last few weeks I am seeing thousands of errors like

(1/2): _local/primary_db| 3.4 MB  00:00
updates/21/i386/primary_db FAILED
http://mirror.netcologne.de/fedora/linux/updates/21/i386/repodata/1f20884a6cce1ba8e28bb19e6dd364fe787906c1f0504c0d06e0fb1be8ab07ac-primary.sqlite.bz2:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found
Trying other mirror.
updates/21/i386/primary_db FAILED
http://mirror.fraunhofer.de/dl.fedoraproject.org/fedora/linux/updates/21/i386/repodata/1f20884a6cce1ba8e28bb19e6dd364fe787906c1f0504c0d06e0fb1be8ab07ac-primary.sqlite.bz2:
 [Errno 14] curl#18 - transfer closed with 1521891 bytes remaining to read
Trying other mirror.
(2/2): updates/21/i386/primary_db   | 4.5 MB  03:26
updates/21/i386/updateinfo FAILED
http://mirror.netcologne.de/fedora/linux/updates/21/i386/repodata/343502d43eec1d45e0f951d2c2d3373a146515d175e61c1609b44391f93cf08a-updateinfo.xml.gz:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found
Trying other mirror.
updates/21/i386/pkgtagsFAILED
http://mirror.netcologne.de/fedora/linux/updates/21/i386/repodata/6803dec7b564b291cead9d2b720a47bb73da52577e7f25e5b9df41582455f7a1-pkgtags.sqlite.gz:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found
Trying other mirror.
(1/2): updates/21/i386/updateinfo   | 644 kB  01:28
(2/2): updates/21/i386/pkgtags  | 1.4 MB  03:11


and

http://mirror.netcologne.de/fedora/linux/updates/21/i386/drpms/autocorr-en-4.3.5.2-11.fc21_4.3.6.2-3.fc21.noarch.drpm:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found
Trying other mirror.

While very rarely some other mirrors have problems, netcologne seems to be
failing systematically for me.

Is it just me?
No, it's not just you and it's not just the mirrors you list. Sometimes 
all Europe mirrors seem to be out of sync (This had happened 
yesterday.), with mirrormanager still reporting them as functional.


Seems to me as if mirrormanager is dysfunctional, which then unhides 
deficiencies in yum/dnf and mock.



Is there some place to report?

I have no idea, except that I am feeling quite sour about this, as well.


Ralf

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Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, 2015-02-25 at 14:30 +0100, drago01 wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Josh Boyer 
 jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
  Hello Fellow Contributors!
  
  [...]
  It's possible down the road that, if there is no community 
  interest in i686, the project might look at other options such as 
  making i686 a secondary architecture. This is not because we want 
  to drive away 32-bit users; but we're passionate about making the 
  Fedora kernel work well for the majority of our user base. This 
  prioritization helps us get closer to that goal.
 
 Just to make this clear because this has suggestion has been brought 
 up multiple times ... while there might be less interests in running 
 a i686 kernel the story is very different for i686 user space 
 (mostly libraries but also applications like wine) even on a x86_64 
 host kernel.
 
 So don't draw a line from no interests in i686 kernel to no 
 interesst in the i686 architecture and therefore it should be
 secondary .. its not as simple as with a completely isolated 
 architecture like ppc.

Right, Josh isn't talking about retiring the i686 runtime 
(particularly in terms of multiarch support on x86_64). Merely that 
work on i686-specific bugs in the kernel are going to see less 
attention so they can focus their limited resources on bugs with a 
wider impact.

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Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Ali AlipourR
Hi,

Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

Regards,
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[perl-Test-Version/f20] (9 commits) ...Update to 1.004001

2015-02-25 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes:

  cc17dcb... Update to 1.002004 (*)
  ebcd0ba... Bootstrap epel7 build (*)
  dc10383... Bootstrap build for epel7 done (*)
  4d0a7ce... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Mass (*)
  8b96eaf... Perl 5.20 rebuild (*)
  89cc0f4... Perl 5.20 re-rebuild of bootstrapped packages (*)
  822c9f8... Update to 1.003001 (*)
  6dee4ce... Update to 1.004000 (*)
  1a5274b... Update to 1.004001 (*)

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Re: RFC : in-development flag for packages

2015-02-25 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Mon, 2015-02-23 at 17:03 +0200, Yanko Kaneti wrote:
 On Mon, 2015-02-23 at 14:39 +, Petr Pisar wrote:
  On 2015-02-22, Yanko Kaneti yan...@declera.com wrote:
   Introduce an in-development flag for packages in Fedora.
   
  I like the confession that no in-developemnt code gets magically 
  stable after
  half year of sitting in the Rawhide.
 
 Indeed that was part of my thinking.
 
 In-development packaging that might never reach maturity is a fact 
 of life and the idea was for us to embrace it and manage it in the 
 same place where we manage everything else.
 
 Thanks for the feedback.

I'm somewhat of the opinion that code should never land in Rawhide 
that isn't stable upstream (or expected to be within that Fedora 
release cycle). Code that isn't ready and won't be ready in time 
belongs in a COPR.

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Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 25.02.2015 um 15:35 schrieb Ali AlipourR:

Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?


The kernel itself isn't limited.  It's just set that way in
/usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-default.conf which is provided by systemd.  You
can edit that file, create your own in /etc/sysctrl.d/, or (as root)
set it to whatever you would like via /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq.


Of course it can be changed at runtime, but I mean why official fedora
kernel shouldn't be configured to allow all (or at least a wider
subset) of sysrq commands by default?
This way official fedora live CDs are unsuitable for system recovery
tasks; you have to change sysrq value every time you use live CDs or
build your own live CD


it is nothing someone is using regulary and that settings are security 
settings recommended by most auditing tools




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[perl-Test-Version] Created tag perl-Test-Version-1.004001-1.fc20

2015-02-25 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Test-Version-1.004001-1.fc20' was created pointing to:

 1a5274b... Update to 1.004001
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[perl-UNIVERSAL-require] Update to 0.18

2015-02-25 Thread Paul Howarth
commit c157510fd4949a85df36b241643e141190960ac8
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date:   Wed Feb 25 13:24:41 2015 +

Update to 0.18

- New upstream release 0.18
  - Skip the taint test if Perl was compiled without taint support
  - Changed use of use vars to our
  - Added strict and warnings to PREREQ_PM
- Classify buildreqs by usage

 perl-UNIVERSAL-require.spec | 28 +---
 sources |  2 +-
 2 files changed, 22 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-UNIVERSAL-require.spec b/perl-UNIVERSAL-require.spec
index 6556f63..36f41e5 100644
--- a/perl-UNIVERSAL-require.spec
+++ b/perl-UNIVERSAL-require.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-UNIVERSAL-require
-Version:0.17
-Release:3%{?dist}
+Version:0.18
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Require() modules from a variable
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -8,15 +8,22 @@ URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/UNIVERSAL-require/
 Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/N/NE/NEILB/UNIVERSAL-require-%{version}.tar.gz
 BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(id -nu)
 BuildArch:  noarch
+# Module Build
 BuildRequires:  perl
-BuildRequires:  perl(Carp)
 BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
-BuildRequires:  perl(lib)
+# Module Runtime
+BuildRequires:  perl(Carp)
 BuildRequires:  perl(strict)
-BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More) = 0.47
-BuildRequires:  perl(vars)
+BuildRequires:  perl(UNIVERSAL)
 BuildRequires:  perl(warnings)
+# Test Suite
+BuildRequires:  perl(Config)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Exporter)
+BuildRequires:  perl(lib)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More) = 0.47
+# Runtime
 Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `perl -V:version`; echo $version))
+Requires:   perl(UNIVERSAL)
 
 # Filter bogus provide for perl(UNIVERSAL) (rpm 4.9 onwards)
 %global __provides_exclude ^perl\\(UNIVERSAL\\)
@@ -50,9 +57,16 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %files
 %doc Changes README
 %{perl_vendorlib}/UNIVERSAL/
-%{_mandir}/man3/UNIVERSAL::require.3pm*
+%{_mandir}/man3/UNIVERSAL::require.3*
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Feb 25 2015 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 0.18-1
+- Update to 0.18
+  - Skip the taint test if Perl was compiled without taint support
+  - Changed use of use vars to our
+  - Added strict and warnings to PREREQ_PM
+- Classify buildreqs by usage
+
 * Wed Aug 27 2014 Jitka Plesnikova jples...@redhat.com - 0.17-3
 - Perl 5.20 rebuild
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 180798e..a0c807a 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-3b99222dec970cca4a0c86bf8b17a0f3  UNIVERSAL-require-0.17.tar.gz
+2cdfd54bc7e270c77456a8e929a091b3  UNIVERSAL-require-0.18.tar.gz
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Re: New Upstream Release Monitoring Systems

2015-02-25 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:42:49AM -0700, Dave Johansen wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon pin...@pingoured.fr
wrote:
 
  On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:33:34AM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
  A  A  This looks cool.
  A  A  On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Ralph Bean rb...@redhat.com
  wrote:
  
  A  A  A  - Enable the monitoring flag for that Fedora package in
  pkgdb2[4].
  
  A  A  I think this is the step people will forget to do. If there was
  at least a
  A  A  reminder on the release-monitoring website, that would be
  helpful.
 
  This is now `on` by default for every new package added to pkgdb.
  For the old one you will have to do it manually (or via a script using
  the API).
 
Could a one time report be generated and sent to the mailing? Or is the
list too long for that to be feasible?

Rather than doing a one-time script/report I wrote a script anyone can run as
often as they would like:

http://blog.pingoured.fr/index.php?post/2015/02/25/Check-your-packages-in-pkgdb-and-anitya


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Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:30 AM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 Hello Fellow Contributors!

 [...]
 It's possible down the road that, if there is no community interest in
 i686, the project might look at other options such as making i686 a
 secondary architecture. This is not because we want to drive away
 32-bit users; but we're passionate about making the Fedora kernel work
 well for the majority of our user base. This prioritization helps us
 get closer to that goal.

 Just to make this clear because this has suggestion has been brought
 up multiple times ... while there might be less interests in running a
 i686 kernel the story is very different for i686 user space (mostly
 libraries but also applications like wine) even on a x86_64 host
 kernel.

Yes.  The paragraph didn't say kernel and it certainly didn't say that
the kernel team would be proposing demotion.  It's simply possible
that the rest of the project might look at the results that way.

 So don't draw a line from no interests in i686 kernel to no
 interesst in the i686 architecture and therefore it should be
 secondary .. its not as simple as with a completely isolated
 architecture like ppc.

Actually, even your example is flawed.  ppc64 ran ppc userspace almost
exclusively until the RHEL6 era.  It's really kind of the same thing.
The major difference being that both of those architectures lacked
much in the way of users and support at the time they were demoted.

Anyway, thanks for your comment.  It is helpful.

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Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Peter Robinson
 i686 Kernel SIG steps up and agrees to handle bugs on that platform


 Interesting so you are saying that the kernel sub community is effectively
 only x86_64

 If you are going down that road you better ask for every arch kernel SIG
 to emerge or step up in the process.

 Where does ARM fit in this plan

The ARM SIG has always been primary on the ARM kernel and associated issues.

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Re: New Upstream Release Monitoring Systems

2015-02-25 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 03:08:40PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
 
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 Dne 24.2.2015 v 14:25 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a):
  https://release-monitoring.org/projects/updates/failed
 
 Weird pagination 

When you filter?
Yes I found this out and it's fixed in git


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Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson


On 02/25/2015 02:15 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:

i686 Kernel SIG steps up and agrees to handle bugs on that platform


Interesting so you are saying that the kernel sub community is effectively
only x86_64

If you are going down that road you better ask for every arch kernel SIG
to emerge or step up in the process.

Where does ARM fit in this plan

The ARM SIG has always been primary on the ARM kernel and associated issues.

For that matter so have aarch64/ppc64/s390 SIGs


Should not the kernel list be renamed to x86_64 to be in-line with and 
follow the tradition of the other architectures mailinglist setup?


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File UNIVERSAL-require-0.18.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2015-02-25 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-UNIVERSAL-require:

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Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread drago01
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 Hello Fellow Contributors!

 [...]
 It's possible down the road that, if there is no community interest in
 i686, the project might look at other options such as making i686 a
 secondary architecture. This is not because we want to drive away
 32-bit users; but we're passionate about making the Fedora kernel work
 well for the majority of our user base. This prioritization helps us
 get closer to that goal.

Just to make this clear because this has suggestion has been brought
up multiple times ... while there might be less interests in running a
i686 kernel the story is very different for i686 user space (mostly
libraries but also applications like wine) even on a x86_64 host
kernel.

So don't draw a line from no interests in i686 kernel to no
interesst in the i686 architecture and therefore it should be
secondary .. its not as simple as with a completely isolated
architecture like ppc.
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[Bug 1192382] perl-Test-Inter-1.06 is available

2015-02-25 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1192382

Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Fixed In Version|perl-Test-Inter-1.06-1.fc20 |perl-Test-Inter-1.06-1.fc21



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[Bug 1192382] perl-Test-Inter-1.06 is available

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   Fixed In Version|perl-Test-Inter-1.06-1.fc23 |perl-Test-Inter-1.06-1.fc20
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Last Closed||2015-02-25 08:30:59



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Re: arcanist broken with latest update

2015-02-25 Thread Kamil Paral
  I've also seen another (probably related) TB in arcanist when trying to
  run 'arc patch' but haven't gotten far enough into that to figure out
  exactly what's going on.
 
 $ arc diff develop
 You have not specified any reviewers. Continue anyway? [y/N] y
 Linting...
 No lint engine configured for this project.
 Running unit tests...
 No unit test engine is configured for this project.
 Exception
 ERR-CONDUIT-CORE: Failed to load class or interface 'JsonLintJsonParser': the
 class or interface 'JsonLintJsonParser' is not defined in the library map
 for any loaded phutil library. If this symbol was recently added or moved,
 your library map may be out of date. You can rebuild the map by running 'arc
 liberate'. For more information, see:
 http://www.phabricator.com/docs/phabricator/article/libphutil_Libraries_User_Guide.html
 (Run with `--trace` for a full exception trace.)
 
 
 Seems to be affecting everyone. However, you can use arc diff develop
 --preview and then fill the remaining fields in the review request
 manually. A bit more work, but works. You can also use this to update an
 existing review request. So there is a workaround.
 

Actually, it seems that the exception shown above is not fatal, and all the 
patches I tried to submit for review *were* actually submitted! So, you might 
not need to use --preview, just use `arc diff` as usual, and then look into 
Phabricator or into `arc list` and make sure it got created properly.
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Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Ali AlipourR
 Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

 The kernel itself isn't limited.  It's just set that way in
 /usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-default.conf which is provided by systemd.  You
 can edit that file, create your own in /etc/sysctrl.d/, or (as root)
 set it to whatever you would like via /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq.

Of course it can be changed at runtime, but I mean why official fedora
kernel shouldn't be configured to allow all (or at least a wider
subset) of sysrq commands by default?
This way official fedora live CDs are unsuitable for system recovery
tasks; you have to change sysrq value every time you use live CDs or
build your own live CD.

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[perl-UNIVERSAL-require] Created tag perl-UNIVERSAL-require-0.18-1.fc22

2015-02-25 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-UNIVERSAL-require-0.18-1.fc22' was created pointing 
to:

 c157510... Update to 0.18
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Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, 2015-02-25 at 08:15 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:

snip
 This is an opportunity for community members for whom i686 is a 
 passion to join the team to participate in the bugfixing required. 
 We previously called out the need for assistance[2], but had no
 substantial response. We hope that being transparent about our 
 priorities will prompt interested community members to help. If you 
 are interested to help, here are some resources to get started:
snip

Given our past history with passive requests for help, I think it 
might be beneficial to put a time limit on things. For example, if no 
i686 Kernel SIG steps up and agrees to handle bugs on that platform, 
we should strongly consider demoting i686 to secondary architecture 
for installation media at the Fedora 23 branch point (about six months 
from now).

Note: I'm only suggesting that we would demote the kernel and install 
media, *NOT* the 32-bit runtime libraries on an x86_64 system; we 
would still need to be building those.

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Re: New Upstream Release Monitoring Systems

2015-02-25 Thread Vít Ondruch

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Dne 24.2.2015 v 14:25 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a):
 https://release-monitoring.org/projects/updates/failed

Weird pagination 


Vít
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arcanist broken with latest update

2015-02-25 Thread Kamil Paral
 I've also seen another (probably related) TB in arcanist when trying to
 run 'arc patch' but haven't gotten far enough into that to figure out
 exactly what's going on.

$ arc diff develop
You have not specified any reviewers. Continue anyway? [y/N] y
Linting...
No lint engine configured for this project.
Running unit tests...
No unit test engine is configured for this project.
Exception
ERR-CONDUIT-CORE: Failed to load class or interface 'JsonLintJsonParser': the 
class or interface 'JsonLintJsonParser' is not defined in the library map for 
any loaded phutil library. If this symbol was recently added or moved, your 
library map may be out of date. You can rebuild the map by running 'arc 
liberate'. For more information, see: 
http://www.phabricator.com/docs/phabricator/article/libphutil_Libraries_User_Guide.html
(Run with `--trace` for a full exception trace.)


Seems to be affecting everyone. However, you can use arc diff develop 
--preview and then fill the remaining fields in the review request manually. A 
bit more work, but works. You can also use this to update an existing review 
request. So there is a workaround.
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repo-mirrorlist quality control?

2015-02-25 Thread Richard Z
Hi,

when doing yum update in the last few weeks I am seeing thousands of errors 
like 

(1/2): _local/primary_db| 3.4 MB  00:00 
updates/21/i386/primary_db FAILED  
http://mirror.netcologne.de/fedora/linux/updates/21/i386/repodata/1f20884a6cce1ba8e28bb19e6dd364fe787906c1f0504c0d06e0fb1be8ab07ac-primary.sqlite.bz2:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found
Trying other mirror.
updates/21/i386/primary_db FAILED   
http://mirror.fraunhofer.de/dl.fedoraproject.org/fedora/linux/updates/21/i386/repodata/1f20884a6cce1ba8e28bb19e6dd364fe787906c1f0504c0d06e0fb1be8ab07ac-primary.sqlite.bz2:
 [Errno 14] curl#18 - transfer closed with 1521891 bytes remaining to read
Trying other mirror.
(2/2): updates/21/i386/primary_db   | 4.5 MB  03:26 
updates/21/i386/updateinfo FAILED  
http://mirror.netcologne.de/fedora/linux/updates/21/i386/repodata/343502d43eec1d45e0f951d2c2d3373a146515d175e61c1609b44391f93cf08a-updateinfo.xml.gz:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found
Trying other mirror.
updates/21/i386/pkgtagsFAILED  
http://mirror.netcologne.de/fedora/linux/updates/21/i386/repodata/6803dec7b564b291cead9d2b720a47bb73da52577e7f25e5b9df41582455f7a1-pkgtags.sqlite.gz:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found
Trying other mirror.
(1/2): updates/21/i386/updateinfo   | 644 kB  01:28 
(2/2): updates/21/i386/pkgtags  | 1.4 MB  03:11 


and

http://mirror.netcologne.de/fedora/linux/updates/21/i386/drpms/autocorr-en-4.3.5.2-11.fc21_4.3.6.2-3.fc21.noarch.drpm:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found
Trying other mirror.

While very rarely some other mirrors have problems, netcologne seems to be
failing systematically for me.

Is it just me? Is there some place to report?


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[Bug 1196195] New: perl-Pod-Spell-1.16 is available

2015-02-25 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1196195

Bug ID: 1196195
   Summary: perl-Pod-Spell-1.16 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-Pod-Spell
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: jples...@redhat.com, mmasl...@redhat.com,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org



Latest upstream release: 1.16
Current version/release in rawhide: 1.15-3.fc22
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Pod-Spell/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring

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[Bug 1163219] perl-DateTime-TimeZone-Tzfile-0.010 is available

2015-02-25 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1163219



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perl-DateTime-TimeZone-Tzfile-0.010-1.fc21 has been pushed to the Fedora 21
stable repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this
bug report.

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Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
 i686 Kernel SIG steps up and agrees to handle bugs on that platform


 Interesting so you are saying that the kernel sub community is effectively
 only x86_64

 If you are going down that road you better ask for every arch kernel SIG
 to emerge or step up in the process.

 Where does ARM fit in this plan

 The ARM SIG has always been primary on the ARM kernel and associated issues.

For that matter so have aarch64/ppc64/s390 SIGs

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Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 02/25/2015 03:04 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Ali AlipourR alipoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?
 
 The kernel itself isn't limited.  It's just set that way in
 /usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-default.conf which is provided by systemd.  You
 can edit that file,

The file in /usr will be overwritten by the next package update.

 create your own in /etc/sysctl.d/,

Yes, local configuration belongs to /etc.
See also man sysctl.d.

 or (as root) set it to whatever you would like via /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq.

Or pass sysrq_always_enabled on the kernel command line.

sysrq_always_enabled
[KNL]
Ignore sysrq setting - this boot parameter will
neutralize any effect of /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq.
Useful for debugging.

Michal

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[perl-UNIVERSAL-require] Created tag perl-UNIVERSAL-require-0.18-1.fc23

2015-02-25 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-UNIVERSAL-require-0.18-1.fc23' was created pointing 
to:

 c157510... Update to 0.18
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koji OpenSSL.SSL.SysCallError: (-1, 'Unexpected EOF')

2015-02-25 Thread gil

hi
on my F20 system happen this problem
any ideas?
regards
gil

koji -d  build rawhide --scratch 
~/rpmbuild/SRPMS/google-http-java-client-1.19.0-1.fc20.src.rpm

successfully connected to hub
Uploading srpm: 
~/rpmbuild/SRPMS/google-http-java-client-1.19.0-1.fc20.src.rpm
2015-02-25 16:18:58,752 [DEBUG] koji: Fast upload: 
/home/gil/rpmbuild/SRPMS/google-http-java-client-1.19.0-1.fc20.src.rpm 
to 
cli-build/1424877538.234305.uPdSYJZW/google-http-java-client-1.19.0-1.fc20.src.rpm
2015-02-25 16:19:11,472 [DEBUG] koji: Fast upload: 
~/rpmbuild/SRPMS/google-http-java-client-1.19.0-1.fc20.src.rpm complete. 
356914 bytes in 12.2 seconds


Created task: 9070889
Task info: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=9070889
Watching tasks (this may be safely interrupted)...
9070889 build (rawhide, google-http-java-client-1.19.0-1.fc20.src.rpm): 
open (buildvm-21.phx2.fedoraproject.org)
  9070890 buildArch (google-http-java-client-1.19.0-1.fc20.src.rpm, 
noarch): open (arm02-builder22.arm.fedoraproject.org)

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/koji, line 6245, in module
rv = locals()[command].__call__(options, session, args)
  File /usr/bin/koji, line 972, in handle_build
return watch_tasks(session, [task_id], quiet=build_opts.quiet)
  File /usr/bin/koji, line 479, in watch_tasks
changed = task.update()
  File /usr/bin/koji, line 384, in update
self.info = self.session.getTaskInfo(self.id, request=True)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/koji/__init__.py, line 1555, 
in __call__

return self.__func(self.__name,args,opts)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/koji/__init__.py, line 1898, 
in _callMethod

return self._sendCall(handler, headers, request)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/koji/__init__.py, line 1809, 
in _sendCall

return self._sendOneCall(handler, headers, request)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/koji/__init__.py, line 1829, 
in _sendOneCall

response = cnx.getresponse()
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py, line 1045, in getresponse
response.begin()
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py, line 409, in begin
version, status, reason = self._read_status()
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/httplib.py, line 365, in _read_status
line = self.fp.readline(_MAXLINE + 1)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/socket.py, line 476, in readline
data = self._sock.recv(self._rbufsize)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/koji/ssl/SSLConnection.py, 
line 140, in recv

return con.recv(bufsize, flags)
OpenSSL.SSL.SysCallError: (-1, 'Unexpected EOF')

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Re: i686 kernel bug priority plan

2015-02-25 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, 2015-02-25 at 14:01 +, Peter Robinson wrote:
   This is an opportunity for community members for whom i686 is a 
   passion to join the team to participate in the bugfixing 
   required. We previously called out the need for assistance[2], 
   but had no substantial response. We hope that being transparent 
   about our priorities will prompt interested community members to 
   help. If you are interested to help, here are some resources to 
   get started:
  snip
  
  Given our past history with passive requests for help, I think it 
  might be beneficial to put a time limit on things. For example, if 
  no i686 Kernel SIG steps up and agrees to handle bugs on that 
  platform, we should strongly consider demoting i686 to secondary 
  architecture for installation media at the Fedora 23 branch point 
  (about six months from now).
  
  Note: I'm only suggesting that we would demote the kernel and 
  install media, *NOT* the 32-bit runtime libraries on an x86_64 
  system; we would still need to be building those.
 
 How do you propose demoting to secondary only the kernel/install 
 without the userspace? Do you mean de-emphasise the i686 bit 
 platform?
 

Well, that was more a political and rel-eng statement than a technical 
one. Effectively, we'd not build the kernel package or do release-
blocking composes of i686 media. However, the Koji build-system would 
still have to be capable of producing i686 builds as a primary 
architecture. So yes, from a purely technical standpoint, it's a muddy 
statement.

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Re: I wrote small script to list FTBFS koji entries

2015-02-25 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
On 12.02.2015 20:51, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
 Hi
 
 As my work usually is around fixing packages which failed to build on
 AArch64 I spend lot of time with Koji.
 
 Today I started writing script which has to list all current FTBFS
 entries from selected Koji instance - kind like [1] does but with few
 extras:
 
 - no packages which got built later
 - no repeated entries
 
 I plan to make something like Ubuntu has [2] which was great help when I
 was working on fixing packages while working for Canonical.
 
 No idea how far I will go with it but something like generator for such
 page is on my to do list.

https://fedorapeople.org/~hrw/ftbfs.html is what I got. Still rough and
require polishing but shows what I wanted to get.

 Current version of script is on [3]. My Python skills maybe are not the
 greatest ones but script works for me.
 
 Patches, ideas, bugs are welcome.
 
 
 1. http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/builds?state=3order=-build_id
 2. http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/
 3. https://github.com/hrw/fedora-koji-scripts
 

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Re: Taking ownership of html2text on EPEL6

2015-02-25 Thread Troy Dawson
On 01/09/2015 02:41 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
 Hi,
 I will be taking ownership of html2text on EPEL6.
 I am already the maintainer for EPEL7, but I missed the notification
 that the EPEL6 version was being orphaned because of filters.
 Troy Dawson
 

Hi All,
This has turned out to be much more painful than the documentation [1]
would have you believe.

Anyway, I've eventually managed to become the maintainer for EPEL6, but
my problem now is that it's blocked.  I cannot build the package.

Can someone unblock html2text on epel6 and/or point me to the
documentation that says how to unblock a package.

Thank You
Troy

p.s. If someone wants to talk with me about updating the documentation,
I can talk to you about the pain points.  But I didn't want that to be
the focus of this email.

[1]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Orphaned_package_that_need_new_maintainers#Claiming_Ownership_of_an_Orphaned_Package_Procedure
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Re: repo-mirrorlist quality control?

2015-02-25 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 25.02.2015 um 16:10 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:

If so, then you have cached metadata thats older than a few days.
If not, then it's indeed those mirrors that are out of sync


mirrors are regulary out of sync
you can see that even with /var/cache/yum as tempfs often



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Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 02/25/2015 03:43 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Ali AlipourR alipoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

 The kernel itself isn't limited.  It's just set that way in
 /usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-default.conf which is provided by systemd.  You
 can edit that file, create your own in /etc/sysctrl.d/, or (as root)
 set it to whatever you would like via /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq.

 Of course it can be changed at runtime, but I mean why official fedora
 kernel shouldn't be configured to allow all (or at least a wider
 subset) of sysrq commands by default?
 
 Maybe we're getting hung up on a terminology issue, but this isn't a
 kernel configuration issue.  It's something userspace is doing.
 
 This way official fedora live CDs are unsuitable for system recovery
 tasks; you have to change sysrq value every time you use live CDs or
 build your own live CD.
 
 That's a good point.  Since the live images have a rescue mode,
 maybe there is a way to use a different value when booted into that.
 How that would look, I'm not sure.  Maybe dracut would need to include
 an override file in the initramfs.

I don't follow the reasoning. Why am I more likely to need SysRq in
rescue mode than in normal boot?

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Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Ali AlipourR
it is nothing someone is using regulary and that settings are security 
settings recommended by most auditing tools

security part is admit able, but still I think it is too much strict,
e.g. what is security problem of having 'r' request enabled?
(specially considering that fedora uses relatively unstable
gnome-shell)

Regards,
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Re: repo-mirrorlist quality control?

2015-02-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:29:14 +0100
Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:

  If so, then you have cached metadata thats older than a few days.
 No.
 
  If not, then it's indeed those mirrors that are out of sync.
 
 These mirrors are out of sync. Whether you like it or not,
 mirrormanager is dysfunctional.

That is not very helpfull. 

The problem is that managing mirrors is not a simple problem, it's a
very complex one. You have to see when repos change on the master side,
you have to reply to lots and lots and lots of requests from users for
that data. You have to try and check mirrors to see they are up to
date, but you can't check every single file on every single mirror, so
you check what you can and hope it matches up. You also cannot check
every mirror all the time, you have to stagger things. You also cannot
run any code on any mirror beyond simple scripts that mirrors choose to
run or not. Also some mirrors are up to date on some content and not
others, so you have to adjust for that (ie, some don't carry isos or
debuginfo, but otherwise all other packages). 

If you have a simple solution to this problem, I look forward to your
proof of concept. 

 It is a provable matter of fact that it points users (yum, mock, ...)
 to broken and out of sync mirrors.

There will be such times, sure. I don't see any way of eliminating
that. We can reduce it as much as we can with the resources we have. 

There are some things we can do: 

* If there's a mirror that is reporting that it's up to date, but is
  not, we can remove it from the list and ask mirror admins to check
  it. 

* In mirrorlists and metalinks we provide a list of mirrors. If some
  are out of sync, yum/dnf should move on to the next and retry. It
  sounds like you might see some cases where your metadata is updated
  locally and all mirrors fail? Please report such bugs. 
https://fedorahosted.org/mirrormanager/

* We can try and urge more mirrors to sync based on fedmsg (using
  last-sync) instead of just randomly N times a day. They would then
  reduce load on master mirrors and get content faster: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring#Mirror_Frequency

* We can finish deploying our mirrormanager2 re-write. It doesn't add
  many/any new features, but it moves mirrormanager to a codebase we
  can work on more easily and bugfix/add features to. 
https://github.com/fedora-infra/mirrormanager2

Constructive bugs, ideas or patches welcome. 

kevin


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[Bug 1196195] perl-Pod-Spell-1.16 is available

2015-02-25 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1196195



--- Comment #2 from Upstream Release Monitoring 
upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org ---
jplesnik's perl-Pod-Spell-1.16-1.fc23 completed
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=615049

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Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Michal Schmidt mschm...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 02/25/2015 03:43 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Ali AlipourR alipoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

 The kernel itself isn't limited.  It's just set that way in
 /usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-default.conf which is provided by systemd.  You
 can edit that file, create your own in /etc/sysctrl.d/, or (as root)
 set it to whatever you would like via /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq.

 Of course it can be changed at runtime, but I mean why official fedora
 kernel shouldn't be configured to allow all (or at least a wider
 subset) of sysrq commands by default?

 Maybe we're getting hung up on a terminology issue, but this isn't a
 kernel configuration issue.  It's something userspace is doing.

 This way official fedora live CDs are unsuitable for system recovery
 tasks; you have to change sysrq value every time you use live CDs or
 build your own live CD.

 That's a good point.  Since the live images have a rescue mode,
 maybe there is a way to use a different value when booted into that.
 How that would look, I'm not sure.  Maybe dracut would need to include
 an override file in the initramfs.

 I don't follow the reasoning. Why am I more likely to need SysRq in
 rescue mode than in normal boot?

Rescue mode quite often translates to debug mode as well.  Things
hang, you need to know why, etc.  SysRq isn't always required, but it
is another tool in the box.

josh
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[perl-Pod-Spell/f22] 1.16 bump

2015-02-25 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
commit de569bd4c211e8f63ac57bb8b44663e8d237add5
Author: Jitka Plesnikova jples...@redhat.com
Date:   Wed Feb 25 16:46:18 2015 +0100

1.16 bump

 .gitignore  |  1 +
 perl-Pod-Spell.spec | 14 +++---
 sources |  2 +-
 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 17d313b..c24521c 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -10,3 +10,4 @@ Pod-Spell-1.01.tar.gz
 /Pod-Spell-1.13.tar.gz
 /Pod-Spell-1.14.tar.gz
 /Pod-Spell-1.15.tar.gz
+/Pod-Spell-1.16.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Pod-Spell.spec b/perl-Pod-Spell.spec
index 2c96fed..9014f23 100644
--- a/perl-Pod-Spell.spec
+++ b/perl-Pod-Spell.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Pod-Spell
-Version:1.15
-Release:3%{?dist}
+Version:1.16
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:A formatter for spell-checking POD
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 License:Artistic 2.0
@@ -24,17 +24,13 @@ BuildRequires:  perl(Pod::Escapes)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Pod::Parser)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Text::Wrap)
 # Tests:
-BuildRequires:  perl(English)
 BuildRequires:  perl(File::Spec)
-BuildRequires:  perl(File::Spec::Functions)
 BuildRequires:  perl(File::Temp)
 BuildRequires:  perl(IO::Handle)
 BuildRequires:  perl(IPC::Open3)
-BuildRequires:  perl(List::Util)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Deep)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More) = 0.88
 BuildRequires:  perl(utf8)
-BuildRequires:  perl(version)
 Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `perl -V:version`; echo $version))
 
 %description
@@ -61,7 +57,8 @@ chmod -R u+w %{buildroot}/*
 make test
 
 %files
-%doc Changes CONTRIBUTING LICENSE README
+%license LICENSE
+%doc Changes CONTRIBUTING README
 %{_bindir}/podspell
 %{perl_vendorlib}/Pod/
 %{perl_vendorlib}/auto/share/dist/Pod-Spell/
@@ -69,6 +66,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*.3pm*
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Feb 25 2015 Jitka Plesnikova jples...@redhat.com - 1.16-1
+- 1.16 bump
+
 * Fri Aug 29 2014 Jitka Plesnikova jples...@redhat.com - 1.15-3
 - Perl 5.20 rebuild
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index e369bdb..8824b66 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-fce6fe5ae7ae8ebf140ddbbec36e4f8c  Pod-Spell-1.15.tar.gz
+3a58091842ca89dbe7e72887700d7a68  Pod-Spell-1.16.tar.gz
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[perl-Pod-Spell] 1.16 bump

2015-02-25 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
commit 43375dc4da60fdfdaeb435049dfb66baf4846fc6
Author: Jitka Plesnikova jples...@redhat.com
Date:   Wed Feb 25 16:46:18 2015 +0100

1.16 bump

 .gitignore  |  1 +
 perl-Pod-Spell.spec | 14 +++---
 sources |  2 +-
 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 17d313b..c24521c 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -10,3 +10,4 @@ Pod-Spell-1.01.tar.gz
 /Pod-Spell-1.13.tar.gz
 /Pod-Spell-1.14.tar.gz
 /Pod-Spell-1.15.tar.gz
+/Pod-Spell-1.16.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Pod-Spell.spec b/perl-Pod-Spell.spec
index 2c96fed..9014f23 100644
--- a/perl-Pod-Spell.spec
+++ b/perl-Pod-Spell.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Pod-Spell
-Version:1.15
-Release:3%{?dist}
+Version:1.16
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:A formatter for spell-checking POD
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 License:Artistic 2.0
@@ -24,17 +24,13 @@ BuildRequires:  perl(Pod::Escapes)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Pod::Parser)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Text::Wrap)
 # Tests:
-BuildRequires:  perl(English)
 BuildRequires:  perl(File::Spec)
-BuildRequires:  perl(File::Spec::Functions)
 BuildRequires:  perl(File::Temp)
 BuildRequires:  perl(IO::Handle)
 BuildRequires:  perl(IPC::Open3)
-BuildRequires:  perl(List::Util)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Deep)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More) = 0.88
 BuildRequires:  perl(utf8)
-BuildRequires:  perl(version)
 Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `perl -V:version`; echo $version))
 
 %description
@@ -61,7 +57,8 @@ chmod -R u+w %{buildroot}/*
 make test
 
 %files
-%doc Changes CONTRIBUTING LICENSE README
+%license LICENSE
+%doc Changes CONTRIBUTING README
 %{_bindir}/podspell
 %{perl_vendorlib}/Pod/
 %{perl_vendorlib}/auto/share/dist/Pod-Spell/
@@ -69,6 +66,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*.3pm*
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Feb 25 2015 Jitka Plesnikova jples...@redhat.com - 1.16-1
+- 1.16 bump
+
 * Fri Aug 29 2014 Jitka Plesnikova jples...@redhat.com - 1.15-3
 - Perl 5.20 rebuild
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index e369bdb..8824b66 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-fce6fe5ae7ae8ebf140ddbbec36e4f8c  Pod-Spell-1.15.tar.gz
+3a58091842ca89dbe7e72887700d7a68  Pod-Spell-1.16.tar.gz
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Re: repo-mirrorlist quality control?

2015-02-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:49:47 +0100
Richard Z r...@linux-m68k.org wrote:

 Hi,
 
 when doing yum update in the last few weeks I am seeing thousands of
 errors like 

...snip...
 
 and
 
 http://mirror.netcologne.de/fedora/linux/updates/21/i386/drpms/autocorr-en-4.3.5.2-11.fc21_4.3.6.2-3.fc21.noarch.drpm:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found Trying other mirror.

Does a: 

'yum clean all' 
then retrying help/solve it?

If so, then you have cached metadata thats older than a few days. 
If not, then it's indeed those mirrors that are out of sync. 

 While very rarely some other mirrors have problems, netcologne seems
 to be failing systematically for me.
 
 Is it just me? Is there some place to report?

You can report it to the mirror-admin list
( https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/mirror-admin) 
Or bring it up to infrastructure folks and we can try and contact the
mirror admins directly for that mirror. 

Perhaps one thing we should revsit is dnf/yum metadata caching times on
the various repos to align with how often we push updates. 

kevin


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Re: repo-mirrorlist quality control?

2015-02-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 02/25/2015 04:10 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:49:47 +0100
Richard Z r...@linux-m68k.org wrote:


Hi,

when doing yum update in the last few weeks I am seeing thousands of
errors like


...snip...


and

http://mirror.netcologne.de/fedora/linux/updates/21/i386/drpms/autocorr-en-4.3.5.2-11.fc21_4.3.6.2-3.fc21.noarch.drpm:
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found Trying other mirror.


Does a:

'yum clean all'
then retrying help/solve it?

If so, then you have cached metadata thats older than a few days.

No.


If not, then it's indeed those mirrors that are out of sync.


These mirrors are out of sync. Whether you like it or not, mirrormanager 
is dysfunctional.


It is a provable matter of fact that it points users (yum, mock, ...) to 
broken and out of sync mirrors.


Ralf

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Re: koji OpenSSL.SSL.SysCallError: (-1, 'Unexpected EOF')

2015-02-25 Thread gil


Il 25/02/2015 16:32, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto:

See:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-January/207036.html

kevin



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Re: koji OpenSSL.SSL.SysCallError: (-1, 'Unexpected EOF')

2015-02-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi

See:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-January/207036.html

kevin


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File Pod-Spell-1.16.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by jplesnik

2015-02-25 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Pod-Spell:

3a58091842ca89dbe7e72887700d7a68  Pod-Spell-1.16.tar.gz
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Re: gcc 5 C++ string issue

2015-02-25 Thread Petr Machata
Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com writes:

 On 02/24/2015 05:22 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Orion Poplawski wrote:
 Getting:

 /builddir/build/BUILD/mrpt-1.0.2/libs/base/include/mrpt/utils/mrpt_macros.h:296:150:
 error: no match for 'operator' (operand types are
 'std::basic_ostreamchar' and 'std::ostringstream {aka
 std::__cxx11::basic_ostringstreamchar}')
#define ASSERT_NOT_EQUAL_( __A, __B)  { if (__A==__B) {
#std::ostringstream
 s;sASSERT_NOT_EQUAL_(#__A,#__B) failed with\n#__A=
 __A \n#__B=__B; THROW_EXCEPTION(s.str()) } }


 Any idea what wrong here?

The following patch fixes the compilation issue:

diff -up mrpt-1.0.2/libs/hwdrivers/src/CImpinjRFID.cpp\~ 
mrpt-1.0.2/libs/hwdrivers/src/CImpinjRFID.cpp
--- mrpt-1.0.2/libs/hwdrivers/src/CImpinjRFID.cpp~  2013-01-05 
00:23:15.0 +0100
+++ mrpt-1.0.2/libs/hwdrivers/src/CImpinjRFID.cpp   2015-02-25 
16:55:48.628178380 +0100
@@ -97,7 +97,7 @@ void CImpinjRFID::startDriver()
 
const int ret = ::system(cmdline.str().c_str());
if (0!=ret)
-   std::cerr  [CImpinjRFID::startDriver] Error ( ret  ) 
invoking command:\n  cmdline  std::endl;
+   std::cerr  [CImpinjRFID::startDriver] Error ( ret  ) 
invoking command:\n  cmdline.str()  std::endl;
 
system::exitThread();  // JL-Emil: Really needed? If not, just 
remove...
 }

I don't know why this stopped working, but it never did the intended
thing as written anyway.

With this out of the way, I'm getting a bunch of the following:

../../lib/libmrpt-maps.so.1.0.2: undefined reference to 
`pcl::PCDWriter::setLockingPermissions(std::__cxx11::basic_stringchar, 
std::char_traitschar, std::allocatorchar  const, 
boost::interprocess::file_lock)'

So pcl should be rebuilt for new ABI it seems.

Thanks,
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RE: Hardened builds

2015-02-25 Thread Rex Dieter
Mamoru TASAKA wrote:

 Hello:
 
 I've got a package that is currently failing to build in Rawhide.  It
 has a home-brewed garbage collector inside, and it appears the GC is
 confused about which objects are on the stack, and which are on the
 heap.  I want to try building without the hardening flags to see if
 that has something to do with the problem.  According to
 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1384 the way to do this is to
 put:
 
 %global _hardened_build 0
 
 at the top of the spec file.  But that doesn't work with a local mock
 build.  I still see -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1 in
 the compiler flags and -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-ld
 in the linker flags.
 
 Does
 %undefine _hardened_build
 help?

that version works for me

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Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 25.02.2015 um 18:47 schrieb Chris Adams:

Once upon a time, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net said:

when you are on a machine where you have pysical only keyboard and
mouse it is not - not every PC stands in front of your face - think
about kiosk mode and so on...


But Fedora out-of-the-box is not secured for that already.  An admin
needs to do additional configuration to secure for a console does NOT
have physical access and console user is NOT admin setup


no - but it makes a difference if you need to care abot 20 or 200 things 
to secure - many even don't know about sysrq and so would never come to 
the idea secure sysrq too and so have an unknown door wide open


the users which know about it can enable it
that's the whole purpose of secure defaults



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Re: Taking ownership of html2text on EPEL6

2015-02-25 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 25.2.2015 v 17:18 Troy Dawson napsal(a):
 On 01/09/2015 02:41 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
 Hi,
 I will be taking ownership of html2text on EPEL6.
 I am already the maintainer for EPEL7, but I missed the notification
 that the EPEL6 version was being orphaned because of filters.
 Troy Dawson

 Hi All,
 This has turned out to be much more painful than the documentation [1]
 would have you believe.

 Anyway, I've eventually managed to become the maintainer for EPEL6, but
 my problem now is that it's blocked.  I cannot build the package.

 Can someone unblock html2text on epel6 and/or point me to the
 documentation that says how to unblock a package.

 Thank You
 Troy

 p.s. If someone wants to talk with me about updating the documentation,
 I can talk to you about the pain points.  But I didn't want that to be
 the focus of this email.

 [1]
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Orphaned_package_that_need_new_maintainers#Claiming_Ownership_of_an_Orphaned_Package_Procedure

Quoting from [1]:

 5. Request that the Release Engineering team
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering unblock the package
for the releases that the package should be un-retired for via their
trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/newticket. In this
request, please post a link to the completed re-review and clearly
specify which branches should be unblocked.

So you were are on the right path.


Vít


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Re: [Scitech] OpenBabel rebase to pre-2.4 (current Git master)

2015-02-25 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
domi...@greysector.net wrote:
 Affected packages:
 IQmol

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1196090

 avogadro

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1196090

Are avogadro and IQmol affected by the same bug, or was this a mistake?
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Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net said:
 when you are on a machine where you have pysical only keyboard and
 mouse it is not - not every PC stands in front of your face - think
 about kiosk mode and so on...

But Fedora out-of-the-box is not secured for that already.  An admin
needs to do additional configuration to secure for a console does NOT
have physical access and console user is NOT admin setup.

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Re: repo-mirrorlist quality control?

2015-02-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 02/25/2015 06:22 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:47:47 +0100
Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:



In another (much smaller) project, when pushing updates, we had
removed all mirrors from our mirrorlists and had let the server poll
repodata/repomd.xml from the mirrors to re-adde a mirror to the
mirrorlists if this file matched. Of course, this is a primitive
heuristic, but it had worked quite well for us.


yeah, sadly we don't have any ability to push to mirrors, they have to
pull from us.
I sense a misunderstanding. With pushing I was referring to 
uploading/publishing a package to the repository on the master.

The mirrors were polling ad lib, at intervals at their preference.

I.e. when updating the master repository on the server, we emptied our 
mirrorlists, and let the _master_ poll repomd.xmls from the _mirrors_. 
When it found a mirror's repomd.xml was in sync, the mirrors was 
re-add to our mirrorlists on the server.



The mirrormanager crawler pulls repomd.xml from each
mirror when it crawls and compares it. However, as noted we can't poll
all mirrors all the time.

This sounds pretty much like the same approach we had taken.



It is a provable matter of fact that it points users (yum,
mock, ...) to broken and out of sync mirrors.


There will be such times, sure.

Here (Germany), in recent times, they happen almost daily. My guess
is the fedora flavors, the launch of f22 and the mass-rebuild on
rawhide are showing their nasty side.


So, to be clear you see daily where 'yum update' gives you all mirrors
erroring out and you cannot get a update list? And 'yum clean all'
doesn't help?
As I am heavily using mock, I am fairly often seeing this issue with 
mock. With mock w/ rawhide I am even observing hard build-breakdowns 
(Seems to me as if something in f21's mock was changed to not let it use 
mirrors)



The next time this happens can you file a ticket with the output?
I can try - However, during some periods in recent weeks, these 
incidents were so frequent, I'd not to anything else but filing tickets ;)


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Re: New Upstream Release Monitoring Systems

2015-02-25 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 25.2.2015 v 15:23 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a):
 On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 03:08:40PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
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 Hash: SHA1

 Dne 24.2.2015 v 14:25 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a):
 https://release-monitoring.org/projects/updates/failed
 Weird pagination 
 When you filter?

I just opened the page and click to go forward, no filtering.

 Yes I found this out and it's fixed in git

Thx.

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Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2015-02-26)

2015-02-25 Thread Honza Horak
HEADS UP -- new time and place; since we would have a collision in 
#fedora-meeting and it seems to be better to have meetings on the same 
channel every week, let's meet at #fedora-meeting-2.


WG meeting will be at 13:00 UTC (08:00 EST, 14:00 Brno, 8:00 Boston, 
22:00 Tokyo, 23:00 Brisbane) in #fedora-meeting-2 on Freenode.


= Topics =
* Follow-ups
  * Dockerfiles recommended tips
* Playground repo revisiting
* Open Floor

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Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 25.02.15 18:05, Ali AlipourR (alipoo...@gmail.com) wrote:

  Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?
 
  The kernel itself isn't limited.  It's just set that way in
  /usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-default.conf which is provided by systemd.  You
  can edit that file, create your own in /etc/sysctrl.d/, or (as root)
  set it to whatever you would like via /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq.
 
 Of course it can be changed at runtime, but I mean why official fedora
 kernel shouldn't be configured to allow all (or at least a wider
 subset) of sysrq commands by default?

We generally default secure. The thing is that with sysrq you can
kill arbitrary processes if you have acecss to the console, and other
things, and that's just too security sensitive.

 This way official fedora live CDs are unsuitable for system recovery
 tasks; you have to change sysrq value every time you use live CDs or
 build your own live CD.

I figure for livecds it would be fine to override this.

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Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de said:
 We generally default secure. The thing is that with sysrq you can
 kill arbitrary processes if you have acecss to the console, and other
 things, and that's just too security sensitive.

There are other useful things, like sync, remount read-only, reboot,
poweroff, that we already allow console users to do other ways by
default.  Allowing them to do them through SysRq seems like a good idea
IMHO.
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Re: repo-mirrorlist quality control?

2015-02-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:47:47 +0100
Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:

 The user-side of this problem is quite simple:
 
 The metalinks/mirrorlists as being used in yum or mock configs are 
 pointing to mirrors, which are broken or out of sync. I.e. the 
 metalinks/mirrorlist are incorrect.

Sure. Although in many cases there's also cached repodata causing this,
so the mirrors are ok, but the client is requesting old data that none
of them have anymore. 

 I don't know how fedora mirror works, esp. whether they are polling
 or whether they served with pushes.

They pull at whatever schedule they like. Many mirrors also mirror other
distros or open source projects. Many of them could be running some
other linux, or not even linux at all. 

 In another (much smaller) project, when pushing updates, we had
 removed all mirrors from our mirrorlists and had let the server poll 
 repodata/repomd.xml from the mirrors to re-adde a mirror to the 
 mirrorlists if this file matched. Of course, this is a primitive 
 heuristic, but it had worked quite well for us.

yeah, sadly we don't have any ability to push to mirrors, they have to
pull from us. The mirrormanager crawler pulls repomd.xml from each
mirror when it crawls and compares it. However, as noted we can't poll
all mirrors all the time. 

  It is a provable matter of fact that it points users (yum,
  mock, ...) to broken and out of sync mirrors.
 
  There will be such times, sure.
 Here (Germany), in recent times, they happen almost daily. My guess
 is the fedora flavors, the launch of f22 and the mass-rebuild on
 rawhide are showing their nasty side.

So, to be clear you see daily where 'yum update' gives you all mirrors
erroring out and you cannot get a update list? And 'yum clean all'
doesn't help?

The next time this happens can you file a ticket with the output? We
can try and see if we can see whats happening and how to improve it.

  I don't see any way of eliminating
  that. We can reduce it as much as we can with the resources we have.
 
 IMO, the issues yum/mock/dnf have, partially need to be worked-around
 by heuristics in yum/mock/dnf.

The caching part for sure. 

 I sometimes observe yum and mock seemingly to lock up to dead mirrors 
 (downloaded metadata is older than previous one) and not to try a
 more recent mirror.

Yeah, that sounds like a bug indeed. 

 I also occasionally see consecutive yum/mock runs to re-iterate and
 fail over apparently the same mirrorlists (I feel, it retries by
 priority and therefore always stumbles of the same broken/dead
 mirrors).
 
 Having a past of scientific work on Genetic Algorithms, my first try 
 would be to introduce some randomness into (mirror) selection - It 
 would help to breakout of deterministic causes :-)

There should be randomness in mirrorlists/metalinks. It has a weight
and mixes up the list so it's not always hitting the highest weight
ones. 

(BTW, I would advise everyone to use metalinks (the default) over plain
mirrorlists). 
 
  There are some things we can do:
 
  * If there's a mirror that is reporting that it's up to date, but is
 not, we can remove it from the list and ask mirror admins to
  check it.
 
  * In mirrorlists and metalinks we provide a list of mirrors. If some
 are out of sync, yum/dnf should move on to the next and retry.
 My feel is, this currently doesn't work. The worst cases seem to be
 yum alternating between several high-priorized broken/dead mirrors.

We should then figure out whats causing this and notify the causing
component. ;) 

  It
 sounds like you might see some cases where your metadata is
  updated locally and all mirrors fail? Please report such bugs.
  https://fedorahosted.org/mirrormanager/
 Yes, this had happened for a longer period (24 hours) some time last 
 week (IIRC, Thursday) and for a shorter period (2-4 hours) yesterday.
 
 My guess is, all EU f22/rawhide mirrors were out of sync during these
 times.

Odd. mirrorlists are one of our most visible services. 

On those rare occasions we have broken them, we get users reporting the
issue in minutes. If all EU mirrors were not working I would expect a
number of reports. Also, we have a number of tier1 mirrors in EU that
stay pretty in sync normally. 

  * We can try and urge more mirrors to sync based on fedmsg (using
 last-sync) instead of just randomly N times a day. They would
  then reduce load on master mirrors and get content faster:
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring#Mirror_Frequency
 
  * We can finish deploying our mirrormanager2 re-write. It doesn't
  add many/any new features, but it moves mirrormanager to a codebase
  we can work on more easily and bugfix/add features to.
  https://github.com/fedora-infra/mirrormanager2
 Sorry, lack of knowledge on these details :(
 
  Constructive bugs, ideas or patches welcome.
 In this case, I am mostly a p***ed user, who is struggling ;)

I understand. I'd love to make things better, but we need to 

Re: repo-mirrorlist quality control?

2015-02-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 02/25/2015 04:46 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:29:14 +0100
Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:


If so, then you have cached metadata thats older than a few days.

No.


If not, then it's indeed those mirrors that are out of sync.


These mirrors are out of sync. Whether you like it or not,
mirrormanager is dysfunctional.


That is not very helpfull.


The user-side of this problem is quite simple:

The metalinks/mirrorlists as being used in yum or mock configs are 
pointing to mirrors, which are broken or out of sync. I.e. the 
metalinks/mirrorlist are incorrect.




The problem is that managing mirrors is not a simple problem,
I don't know how fedora mirror works, esp. whether they are polling or 
whether they served with pushes.


In another (much smaller) project, when pushing updates, we had removed 
all mirrors from our mirrorlists and had let the server poll 
repodata/repomd.xml from the mirrors to re-adde a mirror to the 
mirrorlists if this file matched. Of course, this is a primitive 
heuristic, but it had worked quite well for us.



It is a provable matter of fact that it points users (yum, mock, ...)
to broken and out of sync mirrors.


There will be such times, sure.
Here (Germany), in recent times, they happen almost daily. My guess is 
the fedora flavors, the launch of f22 and the mass-rebuild on rawhide 
are showing their nasty side.



I don't see any way of eliminating
that. We can reduce it as much as we can with the resources we have.


IMO, the issues yum/mock/dnf have, partially need to be worked-around by 
heuristics in yum/mock/dnf.


I sometimes observe yum and mock seemingly to lock up to dead mirrors 
(downloaded metadata is older than previous one) and not to try a more 
recent mirror.


I also occasionally see consecutive yum/mock runs to re-iterate and fail 
over apparently the same mirrorlists (I feel, it retries by priority and 
therefore always stumbles of the same broken/dead mirrors).


Having a past of scientific work on Genetic Algorithms, my first try 
would be to introduce some randomness into (mirror) selection - It 
would help to breakout of deterministic causes :-)



There are some things we can do:

* If there's a mirror that is reporting that it's up to date, but is
   not, we can remove it from the list and ask mirror admins to check
   it.

* In mirrorlists and metalinks we provide a list of mirrors. If some
   are out of sync, yum/dnf should move on to the next and retry.
My feel is, this currently doesn't work. The worst cases seem to be yum 
alternating between several high-priorized broken/dead mirrors.



It
   sounds like you might see some cases where your metadata is updated
   locally and all mirrors fail? Please report such bugs.
https://fedorahosted.org/mirrormanager/
Yes, this had happened for a longer period (24 hours) some time last 
week (IIRC, Thursday) and for a shorter period (2-4 hours) yesterday.


My guess is, all EU f22/rawhide mirrors were out of sync during these times.


* We can try and urge more mirrors to sync based on fedmsg (using
   last-sync) instead of just randomly N times a day. They would then
   reduce load on master mirrors and get content faster:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring#Mirror_Frequency

* We can finish deploying our mirrormanager2 re-write. It doesn't add
   many/any new features, but it moves mirrormanager to a codebase we
   can work on more easily and bugfix/add features to.
https://github.com/fedora-infra/mirrormanager2

Sorry, lack of knowledge on these details :(


Constructive bugs, ideas or patches welcome.

In this case, I am mostly a p***ed user, who is struggling ;)

Ralf


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Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 25.02.15 11:16, Chris Adams (li...@cmadams.net) wrote:

 Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de said:
  We generally default secure. The thing is that with sysrq you can
  kill arbitrary processes if you have acecss to the console, and other
  things, and that's just too security sensitive.
 
 There are other useful things, like sync, remount read-only, reboot,
 poweroff, that we already allow console users to do other ways by
 default.  Allowing them to do them through SysRq seems like a good idea
 IMHO.

Hmm? Syncing is allowed to my knowledge. C-a-d and gdm allow a clean
reboot/poweroff. But sysrq does an abnormal reboot/poweroff, which we
cannot allow. Similar, remounting read-only is also security senstive,
which we cannot allow.

Without being logged in there's very little you can do on a host right
now, and sysrq should not open up more there by default.

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Re: gcc 5 C++ string issue

2015-02-25 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 02/25/2015 09:04 AM, Petr Machata wrote:
 Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com writes:
 
 On 02/24/2015 05:22 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Orion Poplawski wrote:
 Getting:

 /builddir/build/BUILD/mrpt-1.0.2/libs/base/include/mrpt/utils/mrpt_macros.h:296:150:
 error: no match for 'operator' (operand types are
 'std::basic_ostreamchar' and 'std::ostringstream {aka
 std::__cxx11::basic_ostringstreamchar}')
#define ASSERT_NOT_EQUAL_( __A, __B)  { if (__A==__B) {
#std::ostringstream
 s;sASSERT_NOT_EQUAL_(#__A,#__B) failed with\n#__A=
 __A \n#__B=__B; THROW_EXCEPTION(s.str()) } }


 Any idea what wrong here?
 
 The following patch fixes the compilation issue:
 
 diff -up mrpt-1.0.2/libs/hwdrivers/src/CImpinjRFID.cpp\~ 
 mrpt-1.0.2/libs/hwdrivers/src/CImpinjRFID.cpp
 --- mrpt-1.0.2/libs/hwdrivers/src/CImpinjRFID.cpp~2013-01-05 
 00:23:15.0 +0100
 +++ mrpt-1.0.2/libs/hwdrivers/src/CImpinjRFID.cpp 2015-02-25 
 16:55:48.628178380 +0100
 @@ -97,7 +97,7 @@ void CImpinjRFID::startDriver()
  
   const int ret = ::system(cmdline.str().c_str());
   if (0!=ret)
 - std::cerr  [CImpinjRFID::startDriver] Error ( ret  ) 
 invoking command:\n  cmdline  std::endl;
 + std::cerr  [CImpinjRFID::startDriver] Error ( ret  ) 
 invoking command:\n  cmdline.str()  std::endl;
  
   system::exitThread();  // JL-Emil: Really needed? If not, just 
 remove...
  }
 
 I don't know why this stopped working, but it never did the intended
 thing as written anyway.

I see now that this was fixed upstream a while back -
https://github.com/jlblancoc/mrpt/commit/0b92b07314e990f61c8b24c475a9a66a45559019

It appears that the Fedora version of mrpt is quite out of date as 1.3.0 is
available - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1196299
 
 With this out of the way, I'm getting a bunch of the following:
 
 ../../lib/libmrpt-maps.so.1.0.2: undefined reference to 
 `pcl::PCDWriter::setLockingPermissions(std::__cxx11::basic_stringchar, 
 std::char_traitschar, std::allocatorchar  const, 
 boost::interprocess::file_lock)'
 
 So pcl should be rebuilt for new ABI it seems.

Yup.
 
 Thanks,
 Petr
 

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Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Paul Wouters

On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Lennart Poettering wrote:


Hmm? Syncing is allowed to my knowledge. C-a-d and gdm allow a clean
reboot/poweroff. But sysrq does an abnormal reboot/poweroff, which we
cannot allow. Similar, remounting read-only is also security senstive,
which we cannot allow.

Without being logged in there's very little you can do on a host right
now, and sysrq should not open up more there by default.


You must have forgotten your university days

The alternative to not being able to sync-umount-boot using sysrq is to
flip the switch. I'd rather have them use sysrq.

I said it when they closed X ctrl-alt-backspace and I'll say it now.
When you are on console with the power plug, preventing these actions
is stupid.

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Re: Why sysrq is limited to only sync command on official fedora kernel?

2015-02-25 Thread Reindl Harald



Am 25.02.2015 um 18:37 schrieb Paul Wouters:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Lennart Poettering wrote:


Hmm? Syncing is allowed to my knowledge. C-a-d and gdm allow a clean
reboot/poweroff. But sysrq does an abnormal reboot/poweroff, which we
cannot allow. Similar, remounting read-only is also security senstive,
which we cannot allow.

Without being logged in there's very little you can do on a host right
now, and sysrq should not open up more there by default.


You must have forgotten your university days

The alternative to not being able to sync-umount-boot using sysrq is to
flip the switch. I'd rather have them use sysrq.

I said it when they closed X ctrl-alt-backspace and I'll say it now.
When you are on console with the power plug, preventing these actions
is stupid


when you are on a machine where you have pysical only keyboard and mouse 
it is not - not every PC stands in front of your face - think about 
kiosk mode and so on...






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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora

2015-02-25 Thread Miloslav Trmač
 On 02/24/2015 06:41 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
  Hello,
  java would be the preferred JRE in Fedora. The package would have no
  content, but it would have Requires on preferred Fedora JRE, currently
  java-1.8.0-openjdk. This could be easily changed as default JRE changes.
  The same is for other binary subpackages of java, respectively.
 
  All system packages would require subpackages of java as they do now
  (unless there is good reason not to). Users that install java would
  get latest JRE, which would be updated to new major versions as they
  become default. Older JDKs would not be removed during update (unless
  there is no maintainer and they are obsoleted as currently),
  
  AFAIK nothing obsoletes a package just because it is orphaned…
 
 If no volunteer shows up for maintenance of old JDK then it would be
 deprecated and obsoleted, as it's was done with previous JDK packages.

How would that work _exactly_?

1. JDK-(N+1) is first shipped.  The maintainer of JDK-N intends not to package 
it, so JDK-(N+1) includes Obsoletes:JDK-N from the start.
2. Someone revives JDK-N.  Oops, it cannot be installed because JDK-(N+1) 
obsoletes it.
3. JDK-(N+1) is updated to remove the Obsoletes: .  Oops, upgrades from older 
Fedora versions will no longer remove JDK-N for users who didn’t ask for the 
legacy version.

This is the problem that the renaming to -legacy is supposed to prevent.  
Though, perhaps it would work equally well to have Obsoletes:JDK-N  
$version-($release+1); this would still allow updating the older Fedora with 
bug fixes for JDK-N but to be removed on upgrade, as long as the $release 
number is kept low enough.  And the possible -legacy package could then be  
represented simply by shipping a version with a bigger $release.
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Re: RFC : in-development flag for packages

2015-02-25 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 25 February 2015 at 06:41, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Mon, 2015-02-23 at 17:03 +0200, Yanko Kaneti wrote:
  On Mon, 2015-02-23 at 14:39 +, Petr Pisar wrote:
   On 2015-02-22, Yanko Kaneti yan...@declera.com wrote:
Introduce an in-development flag for packages in Fedora.
   
   I like the confession that no in-developemnt code gets magically
   stable after
   half year of sitting in the Rawhide.
 
  Indeed that was part of my thinking.
 
  In-development packaging that might never reach maturity is a fact
  of life and the idea was for us to embrace it and manage it in the
  same place where we manage everything else.
 
  Thanks for the feedback.

 I'm somewhat of the opinion that code should never land in Rawhide
 that isn't stable upstream (or expected to be within that Fedora
 release cycle). Code that isn't ready and won't be ready in time
 belongs in a COPR.


I have a couple of questions.

1) Does this change how most (or a sizable group of) developers see what
rawhide is meant for?
2) To what extent does the COPR process need to be made more production
ready and integrated into the build system to make those developers want to
use it?

The COPR code is well done, but the resources it relies on are not. The
cloud it runs on is a this is something we work on when we have free 10
minutes versus a Saturday through Sunday 24/7/365 utility that we treat
the main builders. As long as we aren't treating the COPR builders at that
level, most developers are going to do builds on the main builders on the
off chance that something is wrong or worse yet slooow. They will then just
push to rawhide since it is an easy workflow.



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Re: Taking ownership of html2text on EPEL6

2015-02-25 Thread Troy Dawson
On 02/25/2015 10:23 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
 Dne 25.2.2015 v 17:18 Troy Dawson napsal(a):
 On 01/09/2015 02:41 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
 Hi,
 I will be taking ownership of html2text on EPEL6.
 I am already the maintainer for EPEL7, but I missed the notification
 that the EPEL6 version was being orphaned because of filters.
 Troy Dawson

 Hi All,
 This has turned out to be much more painful than the documentation [1]
 would have you believe.

 Anyway, I've eventually managed to become the maintainer for EPEL6, but
 my problem now is that it's blocked.  I cannot build the package.

 Can someone unblock html2text on epel6 and/or point me to the
 documentation that says how to unblock a package.

 Thank You
 Troy

 p.s. If someone wants to talk with me about updating the documentation,
 I can talk to you about the pain points.  But I didn't want that to be
 the focus of this email.

 [1]
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Orphaned_package_that_need_new_maintainers#Claiming_Ownership_of_an_Orphaned_Package_Procedure
 
 Quoting from [1]:
 
 5. Request that the Release Engineering team
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering unblock the package
 for the releases that the package should be un-retired for via their
 trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/newticket. In this
 request, please post a link to the completed re-review and clearly
 specify which branches should be unblocked.
 
 So you were are on the right path.
 
 
 Vít
 
 
 [1]
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Orphaned_package_that_need_new_maintainers#Claiming_Ownership_of_a_Retired_Package
 
 

Thank you Vit, that was exactly what I was looking for.  I don't know
why I missed that.

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Orphaned packages up for new point of contact

2015-02-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
The following packages had their point of contact changed to orphan
based on: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1417

apt -- Debian's Advanced Packaging Tool with RPM support ( master f22 f21 f20 )
arpack -- Fortran 77 subroutines for solving large scale eigenvalue problems ( 
master f22 f21 f20 )
chrpath -- Modify rpath of compiled programs ( master f22 f21 f20 )
fail2ban -- Daemon to ban hosts that cause multiple authentication errors ( 
master f22 f21 f20 )
fakechroot -- Gives a fake chroot environment ( master f22 f21 f20 )
fakeroot -- Gives a fake root environment ( master f22 f21 f20 )
fedora-package-config-apt -- Fedora configuration files for the apt-rpm package 
manager ( master f22 f21 f20 )
freenx-server -- Free Software (GPL) Implementation of the NX Server ( master 
f22 f21 f20 )
greylistd -- Greylisting daemon ( master f22 f21 f20 )
ivtv-firmware -- Firmware for the Hauppauge PVR 250/350/150/500/USB2 model 
series ( master f22 f21 f20 )
ivtv-utils -- Tools for the iTVC15/16 and CX23415/16 driver ( master f22 f21 
f20 )
libcdaudio -- Control operation of a CD-ROM when playing audio CDs ( master f22 
f21 f20 )
maildrop -- Mail delivery agent with filtering abilities ( master f22 f21 f20 )
mediawiki-openid -- The OpenID extension for MediaWiki ( master f22 f21 f20 )
perl-Text-CharWidth -- Get number of occupied columns of a string on terminal ( 
master f22 f21 f20 )
perl-Text-WrapI18N -- Line wrapping with support for several locale setups ( 
master f22 f21 f20 )
php-pear-Auth-OpenID -- PHP OpenID ( master f22 f21 f20 )
po4a -- A tool maintaining translations anywhere ( master f22 f21 f20 )
synaptic -- Graphical frontend for APT package manager. ( master f22 f21 f20 )
vtk -- The Visualization Toolkit - A high level 3D visualization library ( 
master f22 f21 f20 )
vtkdata -- Example data file for VTK ( master f22 f21 f20 )

Feel free to take any you wish to keep in the collection. 

kevin


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Re: RFC : in-development flag for packages

2015-02-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 21:40:57 +0200
Yanko Kaneti yan...@declera.com wrote:

  Rawhide should absolutely be a site for early integration work, but 
  it really should NOT be a place to dump nightly builds. There are 
  many people that actually use Rawhide as a day-to-day system and 
  treating it like a dumping ground is a really bad idea.
 
 Sure,  I am one of those people, and building often and having it
 work are not mutually exclusive. Especially if we can grow some
 minimal continuous integration testing for the core platform.

Completely agreed. I hope soon we will be closer to this as we change
things for signing all rawhide packages. As part of that change we will
have a koji tag of stuff pending for the next compose and we could then
see about hooking in some tests there and/or when things land in the
buildroot. 

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Re: Orphaned packages up for new point of contact

2015-02-25 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 02/25/2015 12:48 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 The following packages had their point of contact changed to orphan
 based on: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1417
 
 fail2ban -- Daemon to ban hosts that cause multiple authentication errors ( 
 master f22 f21 f20 )
 vtk -- The Visualization Toolkit - A high level 3D visualization library ( 
 master f22 f21 f20 )
 vtkdata -- Example data file for VTK ( master f22 f21 f20 )

Taken as I've been maintaining them for a while now.  I've approved the
outstanding ACL requests as well.  As always, co-maintainers welcome.


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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2015-02-26 17:00 UTC) Followup:7 New:1

2015-02-25 Thread James Antill
 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC
meeting Thursday at 2015-02-26 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.

 Local time information (via. rktime):

2015-02-26 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PST
2015-02-26 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EST
2015-02-26 17:00 Thu UTC -
2015-02-26 17:00 Thu Europe/London -
2015-02-26 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris   CET
2015-02-26 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin  CET
2015-02-26 22:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta  IST
--new day--
2015-02-27 01:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT
2015-02-27 01:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT
2015-02-27 02:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST
2015-02-27 03:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane EST


 Links to all tickets below can be found at: 

https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13

= Followups =

#topic #126 bundling exception for scintilla
.fpc 126
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/126

#topic #248 python-feedgenerator - a standalone version of a bundled library
.fpc 248
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/248

#topic #303 Consider reverting decision to ban %{?_isa} in BuildRequires
.fpc 303
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/303

#topic #325 Temporary bundling exception of yajl library
.fpc 325
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/325

#topic #338 %doc and %_pkgdocdir duplicate files and cause conflicts
.fpc 338
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/338

#topic #435 %py3dir not removed by rpmbuild --clean
.fpc 435
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/435

#topic #497 Clean up BuildRequires section; don't try to define the
minimal build env
.fpc 497
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/497

= New business =

#topic #501 Fix bootstrap guidelines
.fpc 501
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/501

= Open Floor = 

 For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket.  The
report of the agenda items can be found at:

https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13

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[perl-Finance-Quote/f21] Fix some UK fund sources

2015-02-25 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes:

  042ca5e... Fix some UK fund sources (*)

(*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent
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Re: Hardened builds

2015-02-25 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
 Mamoru TASAKA wrote:
 Does
 %undefine _hardened_build
 help?

 that version works for me

Hmmm, am I doing something wrong?  I've tried both:

%undefine _hardened_build

and:

%undefine _hardened_build
%global _hardened_build 0

at the top of the spec file, and in both cases, I still see the
hardened specs in CFLAGS and LDFLAGS when %configure is invoked.  I've
got the right spec file inside the mock root.  I don't understand
why this worked for you and isn't working for me.
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