Re: Minifying a javascript library

2015-03-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tom Hughes wrote: > That may not be possible if the minimiser upstream is using is not, or > maybe even cannot be, packaged for Fedora. Unfortunately, the popular minifier JSMin is non-Free (it contains the "no evil" clause, see http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article46/json-license ) and thus cann

Re: GCC5 rebuilds required for sflphone: ccrtp, libzrtpcpp, dbus-c++

2015-03-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 05:07:59PM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 02:52:42PM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 01:36:31PM +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I need ccrtp, libzrtpcpp > > Building those two now. >

Re: Questions about font packaging, hinting and non-responsive maintainer process

2015-03-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > 1. He uses a program called Fontographer by Fontlab [1] which > apparently includes a couple of algorithms for autohinting. He said > that it would be a huge task to do the hinting manually for such a > large number of glyphs, so it's all done by the software. Ewww, a

Re: Un-retiring ice and mumble?

2015-03-05 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 03/05/2015 05:08 PM, Sergio Durigan Junior wrote: > On Monday, January 12 2015, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > >> Devel, >> >> I would like to un-retire mumble, but that requires ice. >> >> I've just fixed ice to compile on f21 without much effort. >> So I think I'll un-retire ice and mumble and main

Re: Un-retiring ice and mumble?

2015-03-05 Thread Sergio Durigan Junior
On Monday, January 12 2015, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > Devel, > > I would like to un-retire mumble, but that requires ice. > > I've just fixed ice to compile on f21 without much effort. > So I think I'll un-retire ice and mumble and maintain them > unless anyone objects. > > Is there any reason ice

Re: Fedora 21 on Raspberry Pi 2

2015-03-05 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:38 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > in case some of you are interested it is possible to run Fedora 21 on > Raspberry Pi 2 with few tweaks - > http://jonarcher.info/2015/02/getting-fedora-21-raspberry-pi-2/ There's a lot of discussion of the RiPi2 on the arm l

Fedora 21 on Raspberry Pi 2

2015-03-05 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Hi, in case some of you are interested it is possible to run Fedora 21 on Raspberry Pi 2 with few tweaks - http://jonarcher.info/2015/02/getting-fedora-21-raspberry-pi-2/ v. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of C

Minutes from Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2015-03-05)

2015-03-05 Thread Honza Horak
== #fedora-meeting-2: Env and Stacks (2015-03-05) == Meeting started by hhorak at 18:04:57 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2015-03-05/env-and-stacks.2015-

Re: Using rpmspec to query .spec file macros

2015-03-05 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 03/05/2015 09:44 PM, Philip Prindeville wrote: I'm trying to write some build automation using mock, etc. and I need to be able to query a .spec file for some values. I did a "rpmspec --help" and tried to go by the output but it never mentions where the spec file goes in the arguments, for in

Re: hardening breaks X.org

2015-03-05 Thread Till Maas
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 12:04:50PM +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > a) turn off hardened builds for all Xorg server/driver packages? > > > > b) or is there a way to get partial relro back? > > In my point of view , first put things working , which is "turn off > hardened" , after try fix the build

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 00:45 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Adam Jackson wrote: >> > * #1412 anaconda password change is causing consternation among the user >> > community please review this policy decision (ajax, 18:24:10) >> > * AGREED: F

Using rpmspec to query .spec file macros

2015-03-05 Thread Philip Prindeville
I'm trying to write some build automation using mock, etc. and I need to be able to query a .spec file for some values. I did a "rpmspec --help" and tried to go by the output but it never mentions where the spec file goes in the arguments, for instance! I tried: target=fedora-21-x86_64 ... r

Re: Questions about font packaging, hinting and non-responsive maintainer process

2015-03-05 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
He wrote back, here's what I've learned: 1. He uses a program called Fontographer by Fontlab [1] which apparently includes a couple of algorithms for autohinting. He said that it would be a huge task to do the hinting manually for such a large number of glyphs, so it's all done by the software. 2.

Re: [Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 6 March 2015 14:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

2015-03-05 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 12:50 +0100, Harald Hoyer wrote: > THIS TIME at 14:00 UTC because of US summer time. > US doesn't go into Daylight Savings Time until Sunday, FYI. > Agenda: > - Interview candidates for new memberships > - Optionally accept new members > - Open Floor > > Please add ite

Fedora 22 Alpha is No-Go but second sign-off try is tomorrow

2015-03-05 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Hi! Today at Fedora 22 Alpha Go/No-Go meeting it was decided that Fedora 22 Alpha is No-Go as no release candidate is available. More details in meeting minutes [1]. But as we're looking pretty good and RC1 compose is undergoing right now (estimate delivery is 3:00 UTC on Friday), we decided to tr

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On Mar 5, 2015 4:53 PM, "Matthew Miller" wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 09:06:10AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > An typical outcome from a group of individuals that do not know what > > they are doing and are making decisions based on their own personal > > feeling and popularity r

Re: Minifying a javascript library

2015-03-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 05:37:49PM +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > On 5 March 2015 at 17:09, gil wrote: > > > > yum install -y closure-compiler > > if you have fedora > 20 > > should work > > Thanks - I had hoped to push packages for F20 too, but this is a start > at least :). IIRC, some depe

Re: Minifying a javascript library

2015-03-05 Thread Tom Hughes
On 05/03/15 15:08, Jonathan Underwood wrote: I am trying to package up the java script library web-socket-js in order to unbundle it from xpra (currently under review). The javascript packaging guidelines[1] require that "If a JavaScript library typically is shipped as minified or compiled code,

Re: Minifying a javascript library

2015-03-05 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On 5 March 2015 at 17:09, gil wrote: > > yum install -y closure-compiler > if you have fedora > 20 > should work Thanks - I had hoped to push packages for F20 too, but this is a start at least :). -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listin

Re: [Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 6 March 2015 14:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

2015-03-05 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 05.03.2015 16:56, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > DST starts in the us on Sunday march 8.On Mar 5, 2015 5:50 AM, Harald Hoyer > wrote: >> >> THIS TIME at 14:00 UTC because of US summer time. >> >> Agenda: >> - Interview candidates for new memberships >> - Optionally accept new members >> - Open Fl

Re: [Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 6 March 2015 14:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

2015-03-05 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 05.03.2015 16:56, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > DST starts in the us on Sunday march 8.On Mar 5, 2015 5:50 AM, Harald Hoyer > wrote: >> >> THIS TIME at 14:00 UTC because of US summer time. >> >> Agenda: >> - Interview candidates for new memberships >> - Optionally accept new members >> - Open Fl

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 09:12 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > * gnome-keyring? gnome-initial-setup and gnome-control-center. See: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735578 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744735 gnome-keyring would need modified if we want to enforce password strengt

Re: Minifying a javascript library

2015-03-05 Thread gil
Il 05/03/2015 17:48, Jonathan Underwood ha scritto: On 5 March 2015 at 16:43, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:08:47PM +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: Hi, I am trying to package up the java script library web-socket-js in order to unbundle it from xpra (current

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 10:41 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > False. It's entirely reasonable for a product to mandate an > appropriate > security policy, so until and unless we move account creation entirely > to firstboot, it's something the installer will have to expose. For Fedora Workstation, we

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 09:06:10AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > An typical outcome from a group of individuals that do not know what > they are doing and are making decisions based on their own personal > feeling and popularity rather then common sense, practicality and > hard technical

Re: Minifying a javascript library

2015-03-05 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On 5 March 2015 at 16:43, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:08:47PM +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am trying to package up the java script library web-socket-js in >> order to unbundle it from xpra (currently under review). The >> javascript packaging

Re: Minifying a javascript library

2015-03-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:08:47PM +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to package up the java script library web-socket-js in > order to unbundle it from xpra (currently under review). The > javascript packaging guidelines[1] require that "If a JavaScript > library typically is

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 04:29:05PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > On 03/05/2015 02:44 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >While I would love to see 100% migration, the benefits for leaf packages > >aren't that big. We have fairly good compatibility support, and only > >a small

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:54:20PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > On 03/05/2015 03:52 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > >On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 09:06 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > >>An typical outcome from a group of individuals that do not know what > >>they are doing and are m

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/05/2015 02:44 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: While I would love to see 100% migration, the benefits for leaf packages aren't that big. We have fairly good compatibility support, and only a small number of people are using each package. Nobody can use those leaf packages unless t

Re: Questions about font packaging, hinting and non-responsive maintainer process

2015-03-05 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
I've contacted upstream about the hinting, I'll report when I hear back. In the mean time, can anyone offer any advice on the other points besides hinting? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fed

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 09:56:41 -0600 Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Adam Jackson said: > > False. It's entirely reasonable for a product to mandate an > > appropriate security policy, so until and unless we move account > > creation entirely to firstboot, it's something the installer will

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Adam Jackson said: > False. It's entirely reasonable for a product to mandate an appropriate > security policy, so until and unless we move account creation entirely > to firstboot, it's something the installer will have to expose. The installer should not enforce a policy that

Re: Copr routinely swamped by nightly builds

2015-03-05 Thread Valentin Gologuzov
On 02/17/2015 01:36 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Wouldn't it be better to (c) implement some sort of 'fair' scheduling instead of a pure first-come-first-serve system? Yes, that also has been talked about. I don't know where it is in implementation however. I've started a feature branch to tac

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/05/2015 03:52 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 09:06 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: An typical outcome from a group of individuals that do not know what they are doing and are making decisions based on their own personal feeling and popularity rather then common sens

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 09:06 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > An typical outcome from a group of individuals that do not know what > they are doing and are making decisions based on their own personal > feeling and popularity rather then common sense, practicality and hard > technical fac

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Miloslav Trmač
> Adam Jackson wrote: > > * #1412 anaconda password change is causing consternation among the user > > community please review this policy decision (ajax, 18:24:10) > > * AGREED: FESCo would like anaconda to turn back on the "double-done" > > option for Fedora 22. > > Thanks! > > > B

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 00:45 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Jackson wrote: > > * #1412 anaconda password change is causing consternation among the user > > community please review this policy decision (ajax, 18:24:10) > > * AGREED: FESCo would like anaconda to turn back on the "double-done"

Re: Questions about font packaging, hinting and non-responsive maintainer process

2015-03-05 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 03/05/2015 09:02 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: (Unless they are bad hints. Slightly ironic that Cantarell looks better with the autohinter.) Cantarell has been broken for a while, but nothing has been done to fix it. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=647003 https://bugzilla.gnome.or

Minifying a javascript library

2015-03-05 Thread Jonathan Underwood
Hi, I am trying to package up the java script library web-socket-js in order to unbundle it from xpra (currently under review). The javascript packaging guidelines[1] require that "If a JavaScript library typically is shipped as minified or compiled code, it must be compiled or minified as part of

Re: Questions about font packaging, hinting and non-responsive maintainer process

2015-03-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 02:03 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Are those hinting instructions manually tuned or autogenerated with > ttfautohint? If it's the latter, there's no value in them because Freetype > already uses essentially the same autohinting algorithms ttfautohint uses, > ttfautohint was

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 01:59:00PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > On 03/05/2015 01:42 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >* I think we should continue to encourage maintainers and upstreams to > > move to systemd native unit files wherever possible. > > Only a handful of maintainers migrate

Attempting to contact unresponsive maintainers - smizrahi and pknirsch

2015-03-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings, we've been told that the email addresses for these package maintainers are no longer valid. I'm starting the unresponsive maintainer policy to find out if they are still interested in maintaining their packages (and if so, have them update their email addresses in FAS). If they're not

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/05/2015 01:42 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: * I think we should continue to encourage maintainers and upstreams to move to systemd native unit files wherever possible. Only a handful of maintainers migrated this themselves in the distribution so you ( as in FESCo) either has the intent tha

Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2015-03-05)

2015-03-05 Thread Honza Horak
Since we would have a collisions in other rooms, let's meet at *#fedora-meeting-2*. WG meeting will be at 18:00 UTC (13:00 EST, 19:00 Brno, 13:00 Boston, 3:00+1d Tokyo, 4:00+1d Brisbane) in #fedora-meeting-2 on Freenode. = Topics = * Dockerfiles recommended tips, dockerlint and WebUI * Open F

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 14:35:39 +0100 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 07:41:45AM +, Petr Pisar wrote: > > On 2015-03-04, Adam Jackson wrote: > > > * #615 Strategy for services that do not have systemd native unit > > > files (ajax, 18:03:09) > > > * AGREED: drop sy

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 07:41:45AM +, Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2015-03-04, Adam Jackson wrote: > > * #615 Strategy for services that do not have systemd native unit files > > (ajax, 18:03:09) > > * AGREED: drop sysvinit subpackages if a systemd unit file exists, in > > f23 (ajax, 18:17:

[Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 6 March 2015 14:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

2015-03-05 Thread Harald Hoyer
THIS TIME at 14:00 UTC because of US summer time. Agenda: - Interview candidates for new memberships - Optionally accept new members - Open Floor Please add items by replying to this mail. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/de

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2015-03-05 17:00 UTC) Followup:4 New:5

2015-03-05 Thread Mat Booth
On 4 March 2015 at 18:02, James Antill wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC > meeting Thursday at 2015-03-05 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on > irc.freenode.net. > > Local time information (via. rktime): > > 2015-03-05 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PST

Re: COPR chroot for Fedora 22?

2015-03-05 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On Mar 5, 2015 9:19 AM, "Miroslav Suchý" wrote: > > On 03/04/2015 11:49 PM, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Now that F22 has branched and reached the bodhi branch point, should > > there not also be a Fedora 22 chroot in copr? > > I just added it there. > Thanks very much. Jonathan. --

Re: COPR chroot for Fedora 22?

2015-03-05 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 03/04/2015 11:49 PM, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > Hi, > > Now that F22 has branched and reached the bodhi branch point, should > there not also be a Fedora 22 chroot in copr? I just added it there. -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCE, RHCDS Red Hat, Senior Software Engineer, #brno, #devexp, #fedora-build

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes (2015-03-04)

2015-03-05 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/05/2015 07:41 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: On 2015-03-04, Adam Jackson wrote: * #615 Strategy for services that do not have systemd native unit files (ajax, 18:03:09) * AGREED: drop sysvinit subpackages if a systemd unit file exists, in f23 (ajax, 18:17:32) * AGREED: drop sysvin