Re: Package suggestions

2017-06-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 11:18:13PM -, rugk wrote: > > wonder what Legal's opinion on that would be. > > It worked in Debian. ;) > Basically they did not package the original game files. I think they > are even not included in the upstream project. They just state: "Do > you have a file of th

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

2017-06-15 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Thursday, 15 June 2017 at 20:05, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 06/15/2017 02:02 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > > On 15/06/17 18:27, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > >> I think you may misunderstand what "Recommends" means. At install-time, it > >> will > >> still be pulled into the system as if it was

Re: Package suggestions

2017-06-15 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 7:28 PM, rugk wrote: > Personally, I'd like such a system very much. It would make it possible for > regular users to participate… > And such participation can be the first step to becoming deeper involved into > the project and becoming a packager, e.g. > > I don't know

Re: Package suggestions

2017-06-15 Thread rugk
Personally, I'd like such a system very much. It would make it possible for regular users to participate… And such participation can be the first step to becoming deeper involved into the project and becoming a packager, e.g. I don't know phpback, but uservoice is a popular software. It is propr

Re: Package suggestions

2017-06-15 Thread rugk
> I searched for tworld, is that the "Tile World" game recreating "Chip's > Challenge"? Yes. > wonder what Legal's opinion on that would be. It worked in Debian. ;) Basically they did not package the original game files. I think they are even not included in the upstream project. They just st

Re: Retiring Packages with Broken Dependencies in branched (2017-06-12)

2017-06-15 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "PR" == Pavel Raiskup writes: PR> But I would be OK with this solution - if this idea was baked into PR> guidelines first. Is it realistic to ratify new guidelines PR> paragraph for this issue before F26? The packaging committee can certainly get guideline changes implemented pretty quick

Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2017-06-16)

2017-06-15 Thread Adam Miller
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 16:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2017-06-16 16:00 UTC' Links to all issues below ca

Fedora 26-20170615.n.0 compose check report

2017-06-15 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Workstation live i386 Kde live x86_64 Workstation live x86_64 Kde live i386 Failed openQA tests: 7/102 (x86_64), 1/22 (i386), 1/2 (arm) ID: 108705 Test: x86_64 Workstation-boot-iso memory_check URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/108705 ID: 108710 Test:

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

2017-06-15 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 06/15/2017 02:14 PM, Dan Book wrote: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Emmanuel Seyman > wrote: > > * Stephen Gallagher [15/06/2017 13:27] : > > > > If your intent is to say unequivocally that this system must not > include the > > perl interpreter

Fedora Rawhide-20170615.n.0 compose check report

2017-06-15 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Workstation live i386 Kde live x86_64 Server boot i386 Workstation live x86_64 Kde live i386 Failed openQA tests: 18/102 (x86_64), 2/18 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20170614.n.0): ID: 108528 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_ro

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

2017-06-15 Thread Dan Book
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Stephen Gallagher [15/06/2017 13:27] : > > > > If your intent is to say unequivocally that this system must not include > the > > perl interpreter unless all of these packages are installed, then that's > when > > you should use Requires

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

2017-06-15 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Stephen Gallagher [15/06/2017 13:27] : > > If your intent is to say unequivocally that this system must not include the > perl interpreter unless all of these packages are installed, then that's when > you should use Requires: This is what upstream is requesting. Emmanuel __

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

2017-06-15 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 06/15/2017 02:02 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 15/06/17 18:27, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> I think you may misunderstand what "Recommends" means. At install-time, it >> will >> still be pulled into the system as if it was a "Requires:". The difference is >> that if someone later decides to do '

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

2017-06-15 Thread Tom Hughes
On 15/06/17 18:27, Stephen Gallagher wrote: I think you may misunderstand what "Recommends" means. At install-time, it will still be pulled into the system as if it was a "Requires:". The difference is that if someone later decides to do 'dnf remove perl-foo', it can be removed without also remo

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

2017-06-15 Thread Dan Book
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > If that's the case, I think these two approaches are *basically* identical, > except that the metapackage approach will probably cause DNF to misbehave > due to > the "clean_requirements_on_remove=true" default configuration (which >

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

2017-06-15 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 06/15/2017 10:35 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2017-06-15, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Dne 15.6.2017 v 14:25 Jan Kurik napsal(a): >>> = Proposed System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules = >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/perl_Package_to_Install_Core_Modules >>> >>> Change owner

Re: Package suggestions

2017-06-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 10:49 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 10:41:15AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > It'd be *nice* if there would be > > > a maintained list, although I very much agree that it shouldn't be > > > presented as something which a pool of developers are hovering

Re: Package suggestions

2017-06-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 10:41:15AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > It'd be *nice* if there would be > > a maintained list, although I very much agree that it shouldn't be > > presented as something which a pool of developers are hovering over. > It'd be nice, but I'd argue that a list that is perpetua

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

2017-06-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 02:35:59PM +, Petr Pisar wrote: > Fedora packages will depend on perl-interpreter package or /usr/bin/perl > file whose installation won't bring all the modules. There will be no > usage for the "perl" package in Fedora package dependency tree. It's > more like a comps g

Re: Package suggestions

2017-06-15 Thread Ben Cotton
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > It'd be *nice* if there would be > a maintained list, although I very much agree that it shouldn't be > presented as something which a pool of developers are hovering over. It'd be nice, but I'd argue that a list that is perpetually ignore

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

2017-06-15 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2017-06-15, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 15.6.2017 v 14:25 Jan Kurik napsal(a): >> = Proposed System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/perl_Package_to_Install_Core_Modules >> >> Change owner(s): >> * Petr Písař >> >> dnf install perl will

Re: Package suggestions

2017-06-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 04:55:08PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > There's a wiki page for this, but frankly I'd suggest it's not a high > priority because we just don't have a pool of people hanging around > looking for stuff to package; the existing page is huge and contains > things that have be

Re: Package suggestions

2017-06-15 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2017-06-14, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 01:22 +0200, rugk wrote: >> Finally I'm giving a list of some very useful pieces of software I am >> partially missing after switching from Debian. > > There's a wiki page for this The wiki cannnot be edited by people without any FAS

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

2017-06-15 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 15.6.2017 v 14:25 Jan Kurik napsal(a): > = Proposed System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/perl_Package_to_Install_Core_Modules > > Change owner(s): > * Petr Písař > > dnf install perl will install all core Perl modules that come w

Retired package - xulrunner

2017-06-15 Thread Martin Stransky
Hello, Xulrunner is no longer supported by upstream and contains known security bugs so we decided to retire it from master (will be still available for Fedora 26). If any project needs that package it has to bundle it. ma. ___ devel mailing list -

F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

2017-06-15 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/perl_Package_to_Install_Core_Modules Change owner(s): * Petr Písař dnf install perl will install all core Perl modules that come with Perl upstream sources. == Detailed Description == U

Re: Exploded source tree

2017-06-15 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Michal Sekletar wrote: > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> So what would be your workflow here? You would start update of the >> package by "fedpkg upload" to upload the new tarball and let dist-git to >> explode it? And what would be next? >

Re: retiring git-annex

2017-06-15 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 3:43 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > I will post more details tomorrow then. > > I saw a link to a copr come through, but not much on how to get > git-annex fixed in Fedora proper. Any info for that? Sorry for the delay... I just added some details here: https://bugzilla.redh

Fedora Rawhide-20170614.n.0 compose check report

2017-06-15 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Workstation live i386 Kde live x86_64 Server boot i386 Workstation live x86_64 Kde live i386 Failed openQA tests: 78/102 (x86_64), 18/18 (i386), 1/2 (arm) Old failures (same test failed in Rawhide-20170613.n.1): ID: 108335 Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_defau

Re: Review swap

2017-06-15 Thread Björn 'besser82' Esser
Am 15.06.2017 um 11:46 schrieb Michal Novotny: Hello, I have implemented a set of macros specific for module development. I would be happy to review your package if you can review mine: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1461769 clime Just assigned. It would be great, if you coul

Review swap

2017-06-15 Thread Michal Novotny
Hello, I have implemented a set of macros specific for module development. I would be happy to review your package if you can review mine: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1461769 clime ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Package suggestions

2017-06-15 Thread Artur Iwicki
I have a bit of personal interest in Tox, so I took a look. qTox cannot be included in the official repo because of dependency on ffmpeg. The dependency list for uTox looks like it could be worked with (the filter_audio lib looks the worst to me). I searched for tworld, is that the "Tile World"