COPR strategy

2017-08-21 Thread Michal Novotny
Hello, we will have soon a planning meeting that should determine a more long-term strategy and bring us to a team agreement on what COPR currently is and what it should be in half a year or so. I would like to kindly ask for some input here on the devel list to find out what the actual expectati

Re: one concrete ideas for fedora

2017-08-21 Thread stan
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:19:09 +0100 Sérgio Basto wrote: > and How I create one boot.iso (or netinstall iso ) ? I haven't actually done this, and you will probably get better responses on the users or test lists, but here are some links that might help you. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_

Re: About retiring OmegaT from Fedora

2017-08-21 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2017-08-17 13:10, Ismael Olea wrote: > My first important package in Fedora was OmegaT[1]. AFAIK is the best > FLOSS computer aid translator tool available. With the time OmegaT has > been enjoying a very active development with a significant (to me) > handicap: new releases adds new features wi

retired packages in rawhide/f27

2017-08-21 Thread Honggang LI
hi, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1404043#c41 libibcm, libibumad, libibverbs, librdmacm and ibacm had been replaced by the new rdma-core package. Those five packages are sub-packages of the new rdma-core package. I had retired the f27 and rawhide branches of those five packages in l

FAmSCo Elections - July/August 2017 - Result announcement

2017-08-21 Thread Jan Kurik
Greetings, all! The elections for FAmSCo - August 2017 have concluded, and the results are shown below. FAmSCo is electing 3 seats this time. A total of 148 ballots were cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 1480 votes (148 * 10). The results for the elections are as follows: # vot

FESCo Elections - July/August 2017 - Result announcement

2017-08-21 Thread Jan Kurik
Greetings, all! The elections for FESCo - August 2017 have concluded, and the results are shown below. FESCo is electing 4 seats this time. A total of 150 ballots were cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 750 votes (150 * 5). The results for the elections are as follows: # votes |

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Modularity WG (once every two weeks)

2017-08-21 Thread jkurik
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Modularity WG (once every two weeks) on 2017-08-22 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Meeting of the Modularity Working Group. More information available at: [Modularity Work

Re: Rawhide + Vagrant

2017-08-21 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Monday, 21 August 2017 at 21:43, Greg Hellings wrote: > Is there anyone currently maintaining Vagrant images for Rawhide? I have a > package which builds fine in F25 and F26, but is failing in F27, Rawhide, > etc with linker errors. Rather than chase arbitrary patches repeatedly with > mock, I w

[modularity] Guidelines & Process

2017-08-21 Thread Langdon White
The Modularity WG has proposed a set of guidelines[1] and a process[2] for adding modules to Fedora and we would love your feedback. Our general docs are on Pagure[3] if you need more background/further information. Please share your feedback here or directly on the wiki page(s). You can also file

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Packaging Rust applications/libraries

2017-08-21 Thread Josh Stone
On 08/21/2017 07:20 AM, Christian Stadelmann wrote: > I'd like to see this change land in F28! > > Anyway, I think there is a showstopper: > * Fedora Packaging guidelines demand packages bundle no dependencies (e.g. > libraries, or in Rust's case crates). This is a good choice in my opinion. > *

Re: tcp_wrappers deprecation

2017-08-21 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On ma, 21 elo 2017, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: "JJ" == Jakub Jelen writes: JJ> The denyhosts got last update also 10 years ago [2] and we already JJ> have quite much 2 alternatives that can do the same using firewalls, JJ> so it might be also a time to go for denyhosts. Or not, but clearly JJ

Rawhide + Vagrant

2017-08-21 Thread Greg Hellings
Is there anyone currently maintaining Vagrant images for Rawhide? I have a package which builds fine in F25 and F26, but is failing in F27, Rawhide, etc with linker errors. Rather than chase arbitrary patches repeatedly with mock, I would love to be able to spin up a quick VM. It would make my life

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Packaging Rust applications/libraries

2017-08-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Christian Stadelmann wrote: > So for now, there will be no shared rust libraries? No pure-Rust ones that don't export a C library interface (those are stable), yes. -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! ___ d

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Packaging Rust applications/libraries

2017-08-21 Thread Christian Stadelmann
So for now, there will be no shared rust libraries? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: one concrete ideas for fedora

2017-08-21 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Fri, 2017-08-04 at 08:09 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 08/04/2017 06:04 AM, František Zatloukal wrote: > > There are updated ISOs available: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/a > > lt/live-respins/ > > > > Not for Fedora 26 yet, but I guess they´ll be available soon. > > > > It's also

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Packaging Rust applications/libraries

2017-08-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Christian Stadelmann wrote: >> On 08/21/2017 04:20 PM, Christian Stadelmann wrote: >> >> I think ABI compatibility is achieved by shipping source code only in >> the -devel packages (similar to what Perl does). > > No, you are writing about API stability. Source c

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Packaging Rust applications/libraries

2017-08-21 Thread Christian Stadelmann
> On 08/21/2017 04:20 PM, Christian Stadelmann wrote: > > I think ABI compatibility is achieved by shipping source code only in > the -devel packages (similar to what Perl does). No, you are writing about API stability. Source code may provide API stability, but no ABI stability. ABI stability

Fedora Rawhide-20170821.n.0 compose check report

2017-08-21 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Atomic qcow2 x86_64 Workstation live i386 Server boot i386 Atomic raw-xz x86_64 Kde live i386 Failed openQA tests: 31/137 (x86_64), 2/18 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20170819.n.0): ID: 132721 Test: x86_64 universal install_repos

Re: tcp_wrappers deprecation

2017-08-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "JJ" == Jakub Jelen writes: JJ> The denyhosts got last update also 10 years ago [2] and we already JJ> have quite much 2 alternatives that can do the same using firewalls, JJ> so it might be also a time to go for denyhosts. Or not, but clearly JJ> document that OpenSSH will not be using hos

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Packaging Rust applications/libraries

2017-08-21 Thread Florian Weimer
On 08/21/2017 04:20 PM, Christian Stadelmann wrote: > I'd like to see this change land in F28! > > Anyway, I think there is a showstopper: > * Fedora Packaging guidelines demand packages bundle no dependencies (e.g. > libraries, or in Rust's case crates). This is a good choice in my opinion. > *

Re: removable setup rpm?!

2017-08-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 02:40:40PM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > > The original intention was to at least ensure that you couldn't easily > > and accidentally put your system into a state where you couldn't put it > > back with the same tools you used to break it. > Does that include using tools l

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Packaging Rust applications/libraries

2017-08-21 Thread Christian Stadelmann
I'd like to see this change land in F28! Anyway, I think there is a showstopper: * Fedora Packaging guidelines demand packages bundle no dependencies (e.g. libraries, or in Rust's case crates). This is a good choice in my opinion. * Rust currently has no ABI definition compatible over different v

Re: removable setup rpm?!

2017-08-21 Thread Richard Hughes
On 21 August 2017 at 12:19, Matthew Miller wrote: > The original intention was to at least ensure that you couldn't easily > and accidentally put your system into a state where you couldn't put it > back with the same tools you used to break it. Does that include using tools like rm as root or ju

F28 Self Contained Change: Packaging Rust applications/libraries

2017-08-21 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Packaging Rust applications/libraries = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Packaging_Rust_applications_and_libraries Change owner(s): * Igor Gnatenko (on behalf of Rust SIG) Add required tools/instructions for packaging applications/libraries written in Rust

Orphaning rubygem-logging

2017-08-21 Thread Vít Ondruch
Hi all, I don't have any use for rubygem-logging, so I orphaned the package. Vít ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: New copr-frontend release

2017-08-21 Thread Michal Novotny
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Michal Novotny wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Pavel Raiskup > wrote: > >> On Monday, August 21, 2017 10:42:00 AM CEST Michal Novotny wrote: >> > Hello Kevin, >> > >> > sorry for the late response caused by me being on vacations. >> > >> > O

Re: New copr-frontend release

2017-08-21 Thread Michal Novotny
Hello, On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On Monday, August 21, 2017 10:42:00 AM CEST Michal Novotny wrote: > > Hello Kevin, > > > > sorry for the late response caused by me being on vacations. > > > > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Kevin Kofler > > wrote: > > > > > Hi,

Re: removable setup rpm?!

2017-08-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 11:03:24AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Many "elementary" packages are not protected, and their removal can break > a system in various ways. Adding protections to Yum/DNF config gives a false > sense of security. The original intention was to at least ensure that you

Fedora Elections to FESCo & FAmSCo - Voting period ends in approx. 12 hours

2017-08-21 Thread Jan Kurik
Hi, let me remind you we have Voting period of the currently running Fedora Elections into FESCo and FAmSCo in progress. Please vote for your candidates to FAmSCo [1] and FESCo [2]. The Voting period ends on August 21th, 2017 at 23:59:59 UTC. You might also check an article, summarizing interview

Re: New copr-frontend release

2017-08-21 Thread Pavel Raiskup
On Monday, August 21, 2017 10:42:00 AM CEST Michal Novotny wrote: > Hello Kevin, > > sorry for the late response caused by me being on vacations. > > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Kevin Kofler > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Michal Novotny wrote: > > > - "Follow Fedora branching" project switch t

Re: removable setup rpm?!

2017-08-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 10:07:48 +0200, Petr Stodulka wrote: > > *ouch* Covering such a corner-case is of limited use, IMO. > > What other package tools would benefit from such a protection? > > > > It's corner case, but user is user. We could say same thing about udev, > systemd, dnf... > Why t

Re: New copr-frontend release

2017-08-21 Thread Michal Novotny
Hello Kevin, sorry for the late response caused by me being on vacations. On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Hi, > > Michal Novotny wrote: > > - "Follow Fedora branching" project switch that (if enabled) makes COPR > > fork your rawhide chroots into the newly branched ones >

Re: tcp_wrappers deprecation

2017-08-21 Thread Jakub Jelen
On Fri, 2017-08-18 at 13:15 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > For the record, denyhosts currently relies upon the tcp_wrappers > functionality in openssh to function. While it's possible to make it > manipulate the firewall as well, the whole situation is kind of a > mess. > (Does it talk to fi

Re: removable setup rpm?!

2017-08-21 Thread Petr Stodulka
On 18.8.2017 17:24, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 17:03:57 +0200, Petr Stodulka wrote: > # dnf remove setup > >> rpm is low level tool. No, I am talking just about use of dnf which is high >> level tool for working >> with packages/modules. > > *ouch* Covering such a