Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2019-04-18 16:00 UTC)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPCmeeting Thursday at 2019-04-18 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. uitime): = Day: Thursday ==2019-04-18 09:00 PDT US/Pacific2019-04-18 12:00

libqalculate soname change

libqalculate soname bump is happening with update to v3.1. The following packages are affected - plasma-workspace step cantor qalculate-kde I will rebuild these in the coming days.Note that qalculate-kde is FTBFS right now. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature _

review swap: ibsim

hi, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1701070 https://github.com/linux-rdma/ibsim ibsim emulates the fabric behavior by using MAD communication with the SM/SA and the PerfMgr. This simple tool is ideally suitable for various research, development, debug and testing tasks where IB subnet

Re: Can we maybe reduce the set of packages we install by default a bit?

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 11:36 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Yeah, all that stuff is stuff the kernel could do better on its > own. If the CPU jitter stuff or the TPM stuff is a good idea, then why > not add that to the kernel natively, why involve userspace with that? > i.e. if the TPM and the

Re: Can we maybe reduce the set of packages we install by default a bit?

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 09:06:02AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2019-04-16 at 11:48 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:08 PM Lennart Poettering > > wrote: > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > today I installed the current Fedora 30 Workstation beta on my new > > > lapt

Re: Can we maybe reduce the set of packages we install by default a bit?

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 15:14:54 -0400 Steve Grubb wrote: > Ah...the devil is in the details. It does not credit entropy. This > can easily be tested. systemctl stop rngd. Then open 2 terminal > windows. In one terminal start this shell script: > > #!/bin/sh > > while [ 1 ] > do > /bin/cat

Re: Can we maybe reduce the set of packages we install by default a bit?

On Wed, 2019-04-17 at 15:14 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > Many have tried to convince upstream about this. If anyone here has > influence, > please try. If upstream is currently resistant, what about turning rngd into a loadable kernel module and then insure it is in the initramfs and loaded at ke

Stewardship SIG packages looking for permanent maintainer(s)

Hi everybody, The initial fallout of the recent mass-orphanings has been dealt with, and almost no packages should still have broken dependencies. At this point, we'd like to start distributing some packages we took to maintainers whose packages actively (and directly) depend on things we maintai

Fedora 30 Final blocker status email #2

Final freeze begins on Tuesday, 16 April. Fedora 30 release is currently scheduled for 30 April. Action summary Accepted blockers - 1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1683197 ACTION: halfline to remove problematic patch 2. https://bugzilla.redhat.

Re: Can we maybe reduce the set of packages we install by default a bit?

On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 1:36:08 PM EDT Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mi, 17.04.19 10:55, Steve Grubb (sgr...@redhat.com) wrote: > > On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:38:18 AM EDT Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > What's the story anyway for rngd? Why would userspace be better at > > > providing en

Re: Updating/rebuilding of coin-or packages

> "AT" == Antonio Trande writes: AT> Is it correct tagging an absolute path with %doc? Yes, it's fine; that just sets the flag that tells RPM "this file/directory contains documentation". That's not really any different than, say, using %config to set the "this is a configuration file" flag

Re: Can we maybe reduce the set of packages we install by default a bit?

On 4/17/2019 10:36 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mi, 17.04.19 10:55, Steve Grubb (sgr...@redhat.com) wrote: On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:38:18 AM EDT Lennart Poettering wrote: rngd runs as regular system service, hence what's the point of that altogether? I mean, it runs so late during bo

Re: Sphinx and xindy

> "JJ" == Jerry James writes: JJ> Somebody out there has been involved with past attempts to build JJ> xindy. Please, I would like to make progress on this so I can get JJ> back to building the coq stack's new versions. Which package used JJ> to contain xindy? It is/was part of texlive-bas

Bigger packages (Was: Re: Fedora rawhide compose report: 20190417.n.0 changes)

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 17:00, Fedora Rawhide Report < rawh...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: [..] > Package: at-spi2-core-2.32.1-2.fc31 > Old package: at-spi2-core-2.32.1-1.fc30 > Summary: Protocol definitions and daemon for D-Bus at-spi > RPMs: at-spi2-core at-spi2-core-devel > Size

Re: Can we maybe reduce the set of packages we install by default a bit?

> "LP" == Lennart Poettering writes: LP> That's not true anymore. There's a kernel compile time option now LP> for that in CONFIG_RANDOM_TRUST_CPU=y. And yes, the Fedora kernel LP> sets that since a while. Isn't this arch-dependent? config RANDOM_TRUST_CPU bool "Trust the CPU manufa

Re: Can we maybe reduce the set of packages we install by default a bit?

On Wed, 2019-04-17 at 19:36 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mi, 17.04.19 10:55, Steve Grubb (sgr...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:38:18 AM EDT Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > On Di, 16.04.19 09:06, Adam Williamson (adamw...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: > > > > > > >

Re: Can we maybe reduce the set of packages we install by default a bit?

On Mi, 17.04.19 10:55, Steve Grubb (sgr...@redhat.com) wrote: > On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:38:18 AM EDT Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Di, 16.04.19 09:06, Adam Williamson (adamw...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: > > > > > > > > I think all of these are good ideas. "No udev-settle" seems like a >

Re: Python 3.7 setuptools

On Wed, 2019-04-17 at 17:54 +0100, Luke Hinds wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 5:34 PM Luke Hinds wrote: > > > Apologies if not the correct, list , I was not sure if I should post here > > or to python-devel > > > > I would like to use setuptools within a python3.7 project. > > > > I install pt

Re: Python 3.7 setuptools

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 5:34 PM Luke Hinds wrote: > Apologies if not the correct, list , I was not sure if I should post here > or to python-devel > > I would like to use setuptools within a python3.7 project. > > I install ptyhon3.7 using dnf > > I then install python3-setuptools > > Using pytho

Fedora Rawhide-20190417.n.0 compose check report

Missing expected images: Atomichost raw-xz x86_64 Atomichost qcow2 x86_64 Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 7 of 47 required tests failed openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Failed openQA tests: 23/146 (x86_64), 6/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) ID

Python 3.7 setuptools

Apologies if not the correct, list , I was not sure if I should post here or to python-devel I would like to use setuptools within a python3.7 project. I install ptyhon3.7 using dnf I then install python3-setuptools Using python3.7 I get an import error: # python3.7 Python 3.7.2 (default, Jan

Re: openmpi breakage on Rawhide

Am Mittwoch, den 17.04.2019, 18:09 +0200 schrieb Björn 'besser82' Esser: > Am Mittwoch, den 17.04.2019, 09:59 -0600 schrieb Christoph Junghans: > > I think a rebuild will fix the problem: > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/openmpi/pull-request/5 > > > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 9:53 AM Christop

Re: openmpi breakage on Rawhide

Am Mittwoch, den 17.04.2019, 09:59 -0600 schrieb Christoph Junghans: > I think a rebuild will fix the problem: > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/openmpi/pull-request/5 > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 9:53 AM Christoph Junghans > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Some of my packages failed to build due t

Re: openmpi breakage on Rawhide

I think a rebuild will fix the problem: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/openmpi/pull-request/5 On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 9:53 AM Christoph Junghans wrote: > > Hi all, > > Some of my packages failed to build due to a openmpi breakage > > DEBUG util.py:554: BUILDSTDERR: Error: > DEBUG util.py:554

openmpi breakage on Rawhide

Hi all, Some of my packages failed to build due to a openmpi breakage DEBUG util.py:554: BUILDSTDERR: Error: DEBUG util.py:554: BUILDSTDERR: Problem: package openmpi-devel-3.1.3-3.fc31.x86_64 requires libmpi.so.40()(64bit)(openmpi-x86_64), but none of the providers can be installed DEBUG util.

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20190417.n.0 changes

OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20190416.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20190417.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 1 Added packages: 47 Dropped packages:1 Upgraded packages: 227 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 27.83 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: fedora-img-dl: a tool for downloading Fedora iso's and images

On Wed, 2019-04-17 at 08:56 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > There are some sites which let you PXE boot Linux distros over the > internet (https://netboot.xyz/ being the most notable). Surely the most notable for Fedora is https://boot.fedoraproject.org/ ? :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Commu

Re: Can we maybe reduce the set of packages we install by default a bit?

On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:38:18 AM EDT Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Di, 16.04.19 09:06, Adam Williamson (adamw...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: > > > > > I think all of these are good ideas. "No udev-settle" seems like a > > > nice > > > highlevel goal to shoot for. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ano

fedmsg is deprecated - Fedora infrastructure messages now available via AMQP

Hello folks, Over the last several months, Fedora Infrastructure has been working towards migrating away from fedmsg (ZeroMQ, on which it is based). As of last week, the Fedora AMQP message broker is available outside the infrastructure network. If you're currently consuming the ZeroMQ messages p

Re: Module's package branch name to be aligned?

I think the rules for module branches should be stricter. After several back and forth in discussions with Jun about stream branches for Ruby, I believe that the concept of "using upstream major versions as branches" [1] is not enough and can work just for the simplest cases. We should use ${modul

Re: fedora-img-dl: a tool for downloading Fedora iso's and images

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 5:55 PM Dan Čermák wrote: > cool project! I see a certain overlap with fedora-mediawriter though, as > that one can download ISOs too. > Okay, thanks, my own use-case is more downloading Live images for local testing. I've skimmed the sources (is this upstream: > https:/

Re: Can we maybe reduce the set of packages we install by default a bit?

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 10:38:18AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Di, 16.04.19 09:06, Adam Williamson (adamw...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: > > > > I think all of these are good ideas. "No udev-settle" seems like a nice > > > highlevel goal to shoot for. > > > > > > Another one I might add: "

Re: Can we maybe reduce the set of packages we install by default a bit?

On Di, 16.04.19 09:06, Adam Williamson (adamw...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: > > I think all of these are good ideas. "No udev-settle" seems like a nice > > highlevel goal to shoot for. > > > > Another one I might add: "No stuck stop jobs" - it annoys me every single > > time when I reboot and somet

Re: fedora-img-dl: a tool for downloading Fedora iso's and images

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 02:05:40PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2019-04-16 at 21:55 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:57:26AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Mon, 2019-04-15 at 17:22 +0800, Jens-Ulrik Petersen wrote: > > > > Hi, I made a small cli too

Re: FF v dnf needs-restarting

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 4:56 PM Bojan Smojver wrote: > I'm guessing most of you here probably observed this behaviour with dnf > when FF is upgraded. Even after FF restarted, dnf needs-restarting reports > that it needs restarting. Does that sound like a bug or is this somehow > intentional? > >