[Bug 1231244] perl-HTTP-Proxy-0.303-2.fc23 FTBFS: tests fail randomly

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1231244



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[389-devel] 389 DS nightly 2019-11-01 - 96% PASS

[vashirov]

https://fedorapeople.org/groups/389ds/ci/nightly/2019/11/01/report-389-ds-base-1.4.2.2-20191101git5e48e9f.fc31.x86_64.html
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[Bug 1380983] Package metadata for perl-Gtk2-Unique lists the wrong URL, and the package itself is apparently deprecated.

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1380983

Andrew Toskin  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |CURRENTRELEASE
Last Closed||2019-11-01 03:55:46



--- Comment #6 from Andrew Toskin  ---
URL was updated at some point to Meta CPAN. Belated thanks!

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Is noautobuild still a thing?

[Scott Talbert]

Hi,

While looking into the packages on my F31 that were not rebuilt for F31, I 
was looking at tk and why it was not rebuilt for F31 - it appears this 
package has a noautobuild file in dist-git.  Should packages still be 
allowed to opt-out of mass rebuilds?  I can't find any recent 
documentation about noautobuild or reminders to maintainers to manually 
rebuild their packages.


Scott
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[Bug 1283764] Use of uninitialized value in numeric eq (==) at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/File/Tail.pm line 391

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1283764

Harald Reindl  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Version|29  |30



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Re: List of Python 2 packages to be removed mid-November

[Orion Poplawski]

On 10/29/19 9:24 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote:

Dear maintainers,
here is a list of packages that (transitively, at build or run time) 
require Python 2 and have not yet got a FESCo exception to do so.

If you were bcced on this e-mail, it affects one or more of your packages.




   gnuradio
     (→ PY2)
     gnuradio-devel (→ gnuradio → PY2)
     gnuradio-doc (→ gnuradio → PY2)
     gnuradio-examples (→ PY2)


This will be resolved with an update to 3.8.0.0:

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gnuradio/pull-request/2
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1732400

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Re: Blender for Fedora 31 does not support multimedia?

[long27km]

Why isn't there an option to install other repos codecs and impls ( i know the 
technical answer) ? I thought Fedora was now supposed to be focused on being 
developer friendly. Dev's could just install another distro of the os that 
allows licenses like debian/ubuntu... except maybe I still would anyway since 
I'd have less trouble with those repos recently (re: x64 requires 
flatpak/winepak). These growing pains are understandable, but this is getting 
to be a bigger issue if we cannot simply install and use the tools we need.

From: Luya Tshimbalanga 
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:58 PM
To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org 
Subject: Re: Blender for Fedora 31 does not support multimedia?


Blender in Fedora repository is built with ffpmeg support disabled by default 
for legal reasons. Negativo which is one of co-maintainers provides nearly 
identical version with FFmpeg enabled accessible via fedora-multimedia branch.

https://negativo17.org/repos

Make sure to keep that repo disabled to avoid conflict with rpmfusion.

Luya

On 2019-10-31 11:09 a.m., Code Zombie wrote:
Thanks Luya,
I have all ffmpeg and gstreamer codecs installed. However, I think blender was 
installed by OpenShot before I actually installed ffmpeg and gstreamer codecs.
So, it might be the reason why it does not play videos or music. But, 
reinstalling blender didn't help. Never had this issue before.
- Mehdi

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 11:26 AM Luya Tshimbalanga 
mailto:l...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:

On 2019-10-31 5:05 a.m., Code Zombie wrote:
> Hi
>
> It seems that Blender 2.8 on Fedora 31 does not support sound and
> video playback and export.
> Does anyone have the same issue? Is that normal on Fedora 31?
>
> - Mehdi
>
Hello Mehda,

Blender requires ffmpeg which cannot be legally included in Fedora
repository to effectively use multimedia due to US patents law. One of
best approach is either get ffmpeg without the offending codecs or
enable an alternative like gstreamer which is beyond the scope of
packaging process.

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Re: Join us in #redhat-cpe on Freenode

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 04:08:35PM -0400, Randy Barlow wrote:
> This is a repost from
> https://blog.electronsweatshop.com/join-us-in-redhat-cpe-on-freenode.html
> 
> tl;dr; join us in #redhat-cpe on Freenode!

Thanks for setting this up Randy!

Default to open is the way to go. 

kevin


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Re: request: Please revive beignet!

[Sérgio Basto]

On Fri, 2019-11-01 at 08:06 +0900, Tetsuji Rai wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been using Fedora for a long time, but I was at lost to see
> there's
> no beignet supported in Fedora 30.  But fortunately, archlinux had
> source patches for glibc-2.29, llvm,clang 8 and it worked on Fedora
> 30.   However now on Fedora 31, archlinux's patch any longer works,
> and
> I am obliged to use binary packages of beignet borrowed from Fedora
> 29. 
> But it's old and won't held in Fedora mirrors in the near future.
> 
> I guess there are many users still using Ivybridge or Haswell and
> needing beignet.  Will developers support beignet?

Commit [1] says "Starting in Q1’2018, Beignet has been deprecated in
favor of NEO OpenCL driver" 

[1] 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/beignet/c/74628d735c9a4e6c8ac5c888adbfca0f5db282b3?branch=master

> Thanks in advance!!
> 
> -Tetsuji
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Re: Blender for Fedora 31 does not support multimedia?

[Luya Tshimbalanga]

Blender in Fedora repository is built with ffpmeg support disabled by 
default for legal reasons. Negativo which is one of co-maintainers 
provides nearly identical version with FFmpeg enabled accessible via 
fedora-multimedia branch.


https://negativo17.org/repos

Make sure to keep that repo disabled to avoid conflict with rpmfusion.

Luya

On 2019-10-31 11:09 a.m., Code Zombie wrote:

Thanks Luya,
I have all ffmpeg and gstreamer codecs installed. However, I think 
blender was installed by OpenShot before I actually installed ffmpeg 
and gstreamer codecs.
So, it might be the reason why it does not play videos or music. But, 
reinstalling blender didn't help. Never had this issue before.

- Mehdi

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 11:26 AM Luya Tshimbalanga 
mailto:l...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:



On 2019-10-31 5:05 a.m., Code Zombie wrote:
> Hi
>
> It seems that Blender 2.8 on Fedora 31 does not support sound and
> video playback and export.
> Does anyone have the same issue? Is that normal on Fedora 31?
>
> - Mehdi
>
Hello Mehda,

Blender requires ffmpeg which cannot be legally included in Fedora
repository to effectively use multimedia due to US patents law.
One of
best approach is either get ffmpeg without the offending codecs or
enable an alternative like gstreamer which is beyond the scope of
packaging process.

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[389-devel] Please review, lib389 support working without defaults.inf

[William Brown]

https://pagure.io/389-ds-base/pull-request/50682


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request: Please revive beignet!

[Tetsuji Rai]

Hi all,

I've been using Fedora for a long time, but I was at lost to see there's
no beignet supported in Fedora 30.  But fortunately, archlinux had
source patches for glibc-2.29, llvm,clang 8 and it worked on Fedora
30.   However now on Fedora 31, archlinux's patch any longer works, and
I am obliged to use binary packages of beignet borrowed from Fedora 29. 
But it's old and won't held in Fedora mirrors in the near future.

I guess there are many users still using Ivybridge or Haswell and
needing beignet.  Will developers support beignet?

Thanks in advance!!

-Tetsuji
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[Bug 1612850] Proprietary include/GL/glu.h in OpenGL-0.70.tar.gz

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1612850



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[Bug 1596493] rpm-build wrong handling perl dependencies by rpmbuild command

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1596493



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[Bug 1588542] Useless dependency on perl(Test::Perl::Critic)

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1588542



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[Bug 1622999] perl-POE-Component-SSLify-1.012-13.fc30 FTBFS: t/connect_hook_nodata.t fails with OpenSSL 1.1.1

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1622999

Paul Howarth  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version|perl-POE-Component-SSLify-1 |perl-POE-Component-SSLify-1
   |.012-14.fc30|.012-14.fc29
   ||perl-POE-Component-SSLify-1
   ||.012-14.fc30
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed||2019-10-31 20:50:28



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[Bug 1584474] Need version update for perl-Razor-Agent

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[Bug 1559474] postgres support seems to be left out of this package but is included upstream

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1559474



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[Bug 1622999] perl-POE-Component-SSLify-1.012-13.fc30 FTBFS: t/connect_hook_nodata.t fails with OpenSSL 1.1.1

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Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

[Michal Ambroz]

Thank you.



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Komu: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Datum: 24. 10. 2019 11:28:39
Předmět: Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers
"On 24. 10. 19 4:21, Michal Ambroz wrote:
> Why I'm not listed as the original owner?

Pagure doesn't know any concept of "original owner". When a package is
orphaned
by releng, the owner is replaced by orphan user. Sometimes, there are
co-maintainers and they stay as co-miantainers.

I've opened this as a followup:

https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8929

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[Bug 1704785] perl-Net-SSLeay-1.85-9.fc29 FTBFS: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1704785



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Petr, is there any point doing this now?

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[Bug 1600504] Bad license tag

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1600504

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   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||FutureFeature
Version|29  |rawhide



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Upstream doesn't seem terribly interested in fixing this.

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[Bug 1762918] [RFE] EPEL-8 branch for perl-Email-Address-XS

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  Component|perl-Email-Address-XS   |perl-Email-Address-XS
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Re: Unresponsive maintainer: smooge Fwd: [Bug 1451148] libmaxminddb-1.3.2 is available

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 12:52, Matthew Miller  wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 11:46:41AM -0400, Jason Taylor wrote:
> > I am interested in this package as well, I can help maintain it (fas:
> > jtaylor)
>
> Is there an easy command-line query tool for this package, like there was
> for the old db version?

The replacement command looks to be mmdblookup


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[Bug 1767623] New: perl-App-a2p-1.012 is available

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Bug ID: 1767623
   Summary: perl-App-a2p-1.012 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-App-a2p
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
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  Target Milestone: ---
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Latest upstream release: 1.012
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URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/App-a2p/

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Join us in #redhat-cpe on Freenode

[Randy Barlow]

This is a repost from
https://blog.electronsweatshop.com/join-us-in-redhat-cpe-on-freenode.html

tl;dr; join us in #redhat-cpe on Freenode!

Many moons ago, Red Hat merged the CentOS infrastructure team with the
Fedora Infrastructure team, into a team known as "Community Platform
Engineering" (CPE). Most of the individuals on the combined team have
mostly continued to focus on the project they were assigned to before
the merger, but as time has gone by we have looked for opportunities to
collaborate more.

I recently observed that we had been using internal communications to
communicate about collaborative projects between CentOS and Fedora
infrastructures, rather than public forums. This happened mostly
because we've long had internal methods for communicating, and because
the collaboration is not particular to either community, so using
#fedora-admin on Freenode didn't seem particularly proper either, for
example.

Thus, this week we have established the #redhat-cpe channel on Freenode
as a place for our team to communicate openly about the collaborative
efforts we are engaged in. Join us there if you are interested in
helping us bring CentOS and Fedora closer together!


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[Bug 1762449] perl-Type-Tiny for EL8

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1762449

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   Assignee|rc040...@freenet.de |p...@city-fan.org



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[Bug 1688773] Use of uninitialized value in pattern match line 1077, 1086, 1093, 763

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1688773



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[Bug 1767613] perl-Devel-Timer-0.13 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767613



--- Comment #2 from Upstream Release Monitoring 
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the-new-hotness/release-monitoring@fedoraproject.org's scratch build of
perl-Devel-Timer-0.13-1.fc29.src.rpm for rawhide completed
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=38694636

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[Bug 1767613] New: perl-Devel-Timer-0.13 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767613

Bug ID: 1767613
   Summary: perl-Devel-Timer-0.13 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-Devel-Timer
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: de...@fateyev.com
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Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 0.13
Current version/release in rawhide: 0.12-9.fc31
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Devel-Timer/

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[Bug 1767613] perl-Devel-Timer-0.13 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767613



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Created attachment 1631222
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[patch] Update to 0.13 (#1767613)

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[Bug 1704785] perl-Net-SSLeay-1.85-9.fc29 FTBFS: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1704785



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[Bug 987118] perl-5.18: File handles modified with binmode ':unix' leak

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=987118



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[Bug 1206915] Segfault during upgrade; Segmentation fault (core dumped) perl -MXML::SAX -e "XML::SAX->add_parser(q($p))->save_parsers()" 2> /dev/null

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[Bug 1377997] perl-XML-LibXML: Expanding external entities by default [fedora-all]

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[Bug 1007199] perl segfaults when pushing a glob to a thread-shared array

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1007199



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[Bug 1011333] PerlIO::via leaks a foreign memory

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1011333



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[Bug 1482813] perl-Alien-ROOT not available on s390x because root is not there

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[Bug 1399506] perl-File-Find-Rule-Age-0.302-5.fc26 FTBFS randomly

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[Bug 1600504] Bad license tag

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1600504



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[Bug 1709491] perl-homedir creates a local::lib for root user

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1709491



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[Bug 1709491] perl-homedir creates a local::lib for root user

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[Bug 1380983] Package metadata for perl-Gtk2-Unique lists the wrong URL, and the package itself is apparently deprecated.

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[Bug 1726138] Tk::Text ignores non-ASCII input from a keyboard with SCIM input method

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1726138



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[Bug 1283764] Use of uninitialized value in numeric eq (==) at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/File/Tail.pm line 391

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Fedora 29 EOL on 2019-11-26

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[Bug 1767602] New: perl-HTTP-BrowserDetect-3.24 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767602

Bug ID: 1767602
   Summary: perl-HTTP-BrowserDetect-3.24 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-HTTP-BrowserDetect
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: emman...@seyman.fr
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
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  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 3.24
Current version/release in rawhide: 3.23-3.fc31
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/HTTP-BrowserDetect/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy


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changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
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Based on the information from anitya:
https://release-monitoring.org/project/5936/

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[Bug 1762449] perl-Type-Tiny for EL8

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1762449

Emmanuel Seyman  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Component|perl-Type-Tiny  |perl-Type-Tiny
Version|29  |epel8
   Assignee|p...@city-fan.org   |rc040...@freenet.de
Product|Fedora  |Fedora EPEL



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Fedora 29 EOL on 2019-11-26

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[Bug 1379554] perl-XML-Twig: expand_external_ents option fails to work as documented [fedora-all]

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1379554



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[Bug 1762918] [RFE] EPEL-8 branch for perl-Email-Address-XS

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1762918



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[Bug 1762449] perl-Type-Tiny for EL8

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[Bug 1762445] package perl-HTTP-Tiny-0.076-1.module_2073+eebc5b71.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.26.2), but none of the providers can be installed

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[Bug 1765529] [RFE] EPEL8 branch of perl-Data-Serializer

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1765529

Fedora Update System  changed:

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 Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED



--- Comment #7 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2019-69a1e602c9 has been submitted as an update to Fedora EPEL 8.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-69a1e602c9

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Orphaned rubygem-minitest-reporters

[Fabio Valentini]

Hi everybody,

I just orphaned rubygem-minitest-reporters, because It's no longer
required by any of my other ruby packages. It's up to date with the
newest upstream release.

Usually, it can be removed from a package's test suite with a simple
patch / sed, since it only affects terminal output and not the test
executions themselves.

Fabio
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Re: Blender for Fedora 31 does not support multimedia?

[Code Zombie]

Thanks Luya,
I have all ffmpeg and gstreamer codecs installed. However, I think blender
was installed by OpenShot before I actually installed ffmpeg and gstreamer
codecs.
So, it might be the reason why it does not play videos or music. But,
reinstalling blender didn't help. Never had this issue before.
- Mehdi

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 11:26 AM Luya Tshimbalanga 
wrote:

>
> On 2019-10-31 5:05 a.m., Code Zombie wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > It seems that Blender 2.8 on Fedora 31 does not support sound and
> > video playback and export.
> > Does anyone have the same issue? Is that normal on Fedora 31?
> >
> > - Mehdi
> >
> Hello Mehda,
>
> Blender requires ffmpeg which cannot be legally included in Fedora
> repository to effectively use multimedia due to US patents law. One of
> best approach is either get ffmpeg without the offending codecs or
> enable an alternative like gstreamer which is beyond the scope of
> packaging process.
>
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[Bug 1765529] [RFE] EPEL8 branch of perl-Data-Serializer

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1765529

Emmanuel Seyman  changed:

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 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED



--- Comment #6 from Emmanuel Seyman  ---
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/19229
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/19230

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Including CfPs in weekly PgM report

[Ben Cotton]

Hi all,

Beginning tomorrow, I'm going to have a dedicated section in the
weekly PgM report on the Community Blog[1] for calls for proposals.
Keep an eye on that to see proposals you might want to submit to. In
addition, if you come across any CfPs that would be interesting to the
community, please let me know via email or by filing an issue or pull
request against the pgm_communication repo[2]

[1] https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/category/program-management/
[2] https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_communication/

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Re: Fedora Modularity: What's the Problem?

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 03:56:11PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> I think the issue is that neither of you are defining what expected
> lifespans of stability or what stability is. After that you can
> disagree whether it is important or not to what you want to do... but
> until then you are both talking past each other.

You are right. My statement was vague enough to be useless.
Let me try again:

I don't think Fedora is a good base to build or install packages that
will not change for a long time, where long time is anything longer
than one or two Fedora releases.

And I do mean *packages*, not software in general. The ability to build
software depends on the underlying kernel and glibc and compilers and
libraries, and those remain broadly backwards compatible. But we change
the way things are packaged and configured: new compilation flags, new
security features, latest glibc and gcc, latest kernel, latest
systemd, latest python, new CI checks, appdata, new version of cgroups
or firewall implementation, etc. Those changes requires constant
tweaks to packaging, but provide packages that improve over time.

We are trying to add automation to packaging of python and rust and
other upstream projects.

This all means that even if a package from two years ago still builds
or installs in Fedora, we most likely do not *want* it, because we
require more from our packages, but also because have better ways to
build packages.

Stephen said:
> Yes, RHEL and CentOS have a particular business model that rides on
> "nothing changes". Modularity offers us the chance to take some of our
> more radical changes and phase them in, rather than push every user
> onto them at an upgrade boundary. The assertion that users of Fedora
> wouldn't be welcoming to "my apps are more stable but I still get the
> latest kernel/platform stuff" is, in my opinion, incorrect.

This is exactly the circle which I think we can't square.
There is no "kernel/platform stuff" that we can keep updating while
providing a uniform interface to higher layers or anything like that.

Let me use an example: F32 will switch to python3.8. Many packages
required fixes to work with python3.8. Python maintainers (and many
other Fedora developers) worked with upstream projects, and many
upstream projects made releases with patches either written by us
or for us. This often coincided with dropping python2 support.
At the same time, sphinx and pytest released new major versions.
This means that Fedora pushed the whole ecosystem forward, but
keeping packaging unchanged in F29 (python2 is still king), and F32
(python3.8 is required) is very hard. And anything which is closely
dependent on python will require some small changes.

For me, stability of the core to allow the same packages to be reused
across versions is an anti-goal and something that shouldn't be promised.
This might happen, but should not be constrained by what changes we can
make. Instead, I want the distro to keep running forward as a whole,
with the ability to coordinate changes to multiple projects and packages
when the need arises and flexibility to change packaging standards and
mechanisms and require rebuilds.

The problem is completely different in RHEL/Centos because the cadence
is much longer. I see how important it is for users there to gain
access to alternative versions of packages. But in Fedora, such
packages are always at most a few months away. So yeah, I do hope Fedora
can be more stable (in the sense of a bug-free and smoothly upgrading system),
but not stable (in the sense of unchanging).

Zbyszek
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Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Annobin Used By Bodhi

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "BC" == Ben Cotton  writes:

BC> Use the annocheck program from the annobin package to
BC> produce an analysis of the security hardening of a compiled package
BC> when reviewing a Bodhi update.

While I don't disagree with running annocheck at some point in the build
process, _only_ doing things in bodhi can be problematic for packagers.

The issue is that you can build and test and have others test and be
ready to submit an update, only to be stopped by some additional testing
that you had no idea you needed to take extra steps to duplicate locally.

Personally I'd prefer to do this in a brp script.  Those run near the
end of the build process, can output things into the build log which can
be checked easily (even by anything which can look at koji, which I
suppose would include bodhi) and could, if it were desired, fail the
build entirely, notifying packagers of policy violations as early as
possible instead of after waiting for a real koji build and bodhi
processing.

All this would take is a shell wrapper, a small tweak in
redhat-rpm-config, and getting annocheck into the buildroot.


Things to note:

1. You need the annocheck (or rather the annobin-annocheck package) in
   the buildroot.  It doesn't appear to have additional dependencies
   which aren't already in the buildroot and the package is minimal, so
   this probably isn't a huge issue.

2. It's easy to disable brp scripts, which can be good or bad depending
   on whether you want them to implement hard policy.  But it is also
   easy to find packages which disable them by grepping specfiles, and
   if the script is written to always output something then you can just
   grep the build log for evidence that it ran.

3. People get rather annoyed if builds start failing because of
   additional policy checks.  This is of course mitigated somewhat by #2
   above.  Generally what we've done in the past is add the checks in
   some advisory mode and then turn bad things into failures after a
   release.

 - J<
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[Bug 1767477] Devel::Cover produces warning about build vs runtime perl mismatch

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767477

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--- Comment #1 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2019-a6d2a95095 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 30.
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Call for testers: testing multi-builds gating for rawhide packages in staging

[Pierre-Yves Chibon]

Good Morning Everyone,

It has now been a few months since we launched the possibility to gate
single-builds in bodhi for rawhide updates, since then we have been working on
the step two to allow gating multi-builds updates in bodhi.
We are reaching completion on this work but before we push it to production, we
would like to solicit those of you who have the interest and time to test the
workflow in staging.
Basically, try to create a side-tag, build in it, create the update in bodhi see
if it goes through, if it gets stuck, if something is not nice to work with or
if something breaks.


How to test?


You can test staging very easily but you’ll need to adjust some of the commands
and tools you’re using.
* To get a kerberos ticket run: `kinit @STG.FEDORAPROJECT.ORG`
* To interact with dist-git use `fedpkg-stage` (provided by the package with the
  same name)
* To interact with koji directly, use the command: `koji -p stg `
  For examples:
`koji -p stg buildinfo `
`koji -p stg untag  `

To interact with bodhi’s CLI you’ll see that most commands have a `--staging`
option you can specify which will make it call the staging instance of bodhi
rather than the production one.

As a reminder, you can find here the different tools:
Koji: https://koji.stg.fedoraproject.org/koji
Dist-git: https://src.stg.fedoraproject.org/
Bodhi: https://bodhi.stg.fedoraproject.org/


How should the builds progress?
===

If you do a single build without side-tag the build should follow:
f32-updates-candidate (where you build it)
-> bodhi picks it up, creates the update and moves it to f32-signing-pending
-> robosignatory picks it up, signs it and moves it to
   f32-updates-testing-pending
-> test run... if they pass:
-> bodhi picks the message about the tests passing and move the builds into f32

If you do an update involving several (or one) build in a side-tag, the build(s)
should follow:
-> f32-side-XXX where you build it
-> Once you're done you create the update in bodhi
-> bodhi picks the builds and moves them to f32-side-XXX-signing-pending
-> robosignatory picks them up, signs them and moves them to
   f32-side-XXX-testing-pending
(Tests won't run for the moment, we're working on fixing this)
-> if everything is fine (waiving the missing tests will work), bodhi picks up
   the notification, merge the side-tag into f32 and removes the side-tag.

If you need to remove a build from a side-tag, you'll have to use koji -p stg
untag  .
If you have added a build to a side-tag, you can edit the update in bodhi's UI
and click on the refresh button that will update the list of builds in the
update from what is in the side-tag.


Where to report issues?
===

For anything related to bodhi, please use bodhi’s issue tracker:
https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/issues for everything else, please fill an
infra ticket: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/
In doubt, feel free to report to this thread or on #bodhi channel on freenode
and we’ll help you get oriented.


Looking forward for your feedback!
Pierre
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Re: Reminder: DevConf.CZ CfP open through 1 November

[Ben Cotton]

The DevConf.CZ CfP has been extended to 6 November.
The Open TestConf CfP has been extended to 10 November.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 10:48 AM Ben Cotton  wrote:
>
> You may have seen this posted in a few places, but the DevConf.CZ Call
> for Proposals is open. As in years past, there is a dedicated Fedora
> track in addition to tracks on Community, IoT, cloud/containers,
> microservices, networking, desktop, and more. DevConf.CZ is 24–26
> Jaunary 2020 in Brno, CZ.
>
> Open TestCon's (30–31 March, 2020 in Beijing, CN) CfP is also open
> through 31 October.
>
> You can see more information about both conferences and links to
> proposal submissions on the Community Blog post:
> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/devconf-cz-and-open-testcon-cfps-open/
>

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[Test-Announce] Re: Reminder: Open TestCon CfP open through 31 October

[Ben Cotton]

The Open TestCon CfP has been extended to 10 November.
The DevConf.CZ CfP has been extended to 6 November.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 10:48 AM Ben Cotton  wrote:
>
> You may have seen this posted in a few places, but the Open TestCon
> CfP is open through 31 October. This conference is focused on testing
> quality in open source projects. It will be held 30–31 March 2020 in
> Beijing, CN.
>
> Additionally, the DevConf.CZ (24–26 January in Brno, CZ) CfP is open
> through 1 November. DevConf.CZ has tracks dedicated to Fedora and
> Quality/Testing.
>
> You can see more information about both conferences and links to
> proposal submissions on the Community Blog post:
> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/devconf-cz-and-open-testcon-cfps-open/
>

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Re: Reminder: DevConf.CZ CfP open through 1 November

[Ben Cotton]

The DevConf.CZ CfP has been extended to 6 November.
The Open TestConf CfP has been extended to 10 November.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 10:48 AM Ben Cotton  wrote:
>
> You may have seen this posted in a few places, but the DevConf.CZ Call
> for Proposals is open. As in years past, there is a dedicated Fedora
> track in addition to tracks on Community, IoT, cloud/containers,
> microservices, networking, desktop, and more. DevConf.CZ is 24–26
> Jaunary 2020 in Brno, CZ.
>
> Open TestCon's (30–31 March, 2020 in Beijing, CN) CfP is also open
> through 31 October.
>
> You can see more information about both conferences and links to
> proposal submissions on the Community Blog post:
> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/devconf-cz-and-open-testcon-cfps-open/
>

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Fedora 31 Elections: Nomination period open

[Ben Cotton]

Today we are starting the Nomination & Campaign period during which we
accept nominations to the "steering bodies" of the following teams:

* FESCo (Engineering) (5 seats) [1]
* Fedora Council (1 seat) [2]
* Mindshare (1 seat) [3]

This period is open until 2019-11-13 at 23:59:59 UTC.

Candidates may self-nominate. If you nominate someone else, please
check with them to ensure that they are willing to be nominated before
submitting their name.

The steering bodies are currently selecting interview questions for
the candidates.

Nominees submit their questionnaire answers via a private Pagure
issue. The Election Wrangler or their backup will publish the
interviews to the Community Blog before the start of the voting
period.

Please note that the interview is mandatory for all nominees. Nominees
not having their interview ready by end of the Interview period
(2019-11-20) will be disqualified and removed from the election.

As part of the campaign people may also ask questions to specific
candidates on the appropriate mailing list.

The full schedule of the elections is available on the Elections
schedule[4]. For more information about the elections process, see the
program management docs[5].

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee/Nominations
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council/Nominations
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare/Nominations
[4] https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-31/f-31-elections.html
[5] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/elections/

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Fedora 31 Elections: Nomination period open

[Ben Cotton]

Today we are starting the Nomination & Campaign period during which we
accept nominations to the "steering bodies" of the following teams:

* FESCo (Engineering) (5 seats) [1]
* Fedora Council (1 seat) [2]
* Mindshare (1 seat) [3]

This period is open until 2019-11-13 at 23:59:59 UTC.

Candidates may self-nominate. If you nominate someone else, please
check with them to ensure that they are willing to be nominated before
submitting their name.

The steering bodies are currently selecting interview questions for
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period.

Please note that the interview is mandatory for all nominees. Nominees
not having their interview ready by end of the Interview period
(2019-11-20) will be disqualified and removed from the election.

As part of the campaign people may also ask questions to specific
candidates on the appropriate mailing list.

The full schedule of the elections is available on the Elections
schedule[4]. For more information about the elections process, see the
program management docs[5].

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee/Nominations
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council/Nominations
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare/Nominations
[4] https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-31/f-31-elections.html
[5] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/elections/

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[Bug 1766131] perl-DBD-Mock-1.52 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1766131

Petr Pisar  changed:

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 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-DBD-Mock-1.52-1.fc32
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2019-10-31 16:15:22



--- Comment #2 from Petr Pisar  ---
An enhancement release suitable for Fedora ≥ 32.

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[Bug 1767505] New: perl-App-cpm-0.988 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767505

Bug ID: 1767505
   Summary: perl-App-cpm-0.988 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-App-cpm
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: jples...@redhat.com,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 0.988
Current version/release in rawhide: 0.987-1.fc32
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/App-cpm/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy


More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring


Please keep in mind that with any upstream change, there may also be packaging
changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
responsibility to review the new version to ensure that the licensing is still
correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
upstream.


Based on the information from anitya:
https://release-monitoring.org/project/8399/

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Re: Blender for Fedora 31 does not support multimedia?

[Luya Tshimbalanga]

On 2019-10-31 5:05 a.m., Code Zombie wrote:

Hi

It seems that Blender 2.8 on Fedora 31 does not support sound and 
video playback and export.

Does anyone have the same issue? Is that normal on Fedora 31?

- Mehdi


Hello Mehda,

Blender requires ffmpeg which cannot be legally included in Fedora 
repository to effectively use multimedia due to US patents law. One of 
best approach is either get ffmpeg without the offending codecs or 
enable an alternative like gstreamer which is beyond the scope of 
packaging process.


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[Bug 1764823] [RFE] EPEL-8 branch for perl-Test-Trap

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1764823



--- Comment #3 from Jitka Plesnikova  ---
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/19215
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/19216

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[Bug 1765773] perl-Getopt-Lucid-1.10 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1765773



--- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2019-9e66b1077e has been submitted as an update to Fedora 30.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-9e66b1077e

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[Bug 1765773] perl-Getopt-Lucid-1.10 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1765773



--- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2019-62f6568c5d has been submitted as an update to Fedora 31.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-62f6568c5d

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[Bug 1765773] perl-Getopt-Lucid-1.10 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1765773



--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2019-852e533d7b has been submitted as an update to Fedora 29.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-852e533d7b

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[Bug 1764823] [RFE] EPEL-8 branch for perl-Test-Trap

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1764823

Jitka Plesnikova  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
   Assignee|lkund...@v3.sk  |jples...@redhat.com



--- Comment #2 from Jitka Plesnikova  ---
I'll take it.

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[Bug 1764823] [RFE] EPEL-8 branch for perl-Test-Trap

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1764823



--- Comment #1 from Paul Howarth  ---
Jitka, perhaps you could take this one?

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[Bug 1765773] perl-Getopt-Lucid-1.10 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1765773

Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Getopt-Lucid-1.10-1.fc
   ||32



--- Comment #1 from Petr Pisar  ---
This is a bug-fix release suitable for all Fedoras.

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[Bug 1767477] New: Devel::Cover produces warning about build vs runtime perl mismatch

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767477

Bug ID: 1767477
   Summary: Devel::Cover produces warning about build vs runtime
perl mismatch
   Product: Fedora
   Version: 30
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-Devel-Cover
  Assignee: tcall...@redhat.com
  Reporter: g...@cfware.com
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: jose.p.oliveira@gmail.com,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org,
tcall...@redhat.com
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Description of problem:
Using Devel::Cover in Fedora 30 produces a warning.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
perl-Devel-Cover-1.31-2.fc30.x86_64
perl-interpreter-5.28.2-440.fc30.x86_64

How reproducible:
Every time.

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Execute `cover`

Actual results:
Warning/error is printed:

This version of Devel::Cover was built with Perl version 5.028001.
It is now being run with Perl version 5.028002.
Attempting to make adjustments, but you may find that some of your modules do
not have coverage data collected.  You may need to alter the +-inc, +-ignore
and +-select options.


Expected results:
No warning about version mismatches.

Additional info:
Actual coverage results seem to be fine.

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[Bug 1763682] Upgrade perl-Image-Info to 1.42

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1763682

Jitka Plesnikova  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Image-Info-1.42-1.fc32
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
   Assignee|tcall...@redhat.com |jples...@redhat.com
Last Closed||2019-10-31 13:56:24



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Re: List of Python 2 packages to be removed mid-November

[Guido Aulisi]

> tartina
>lilv
>  (BuildRequires: python2-numpy → PY2)

Fixed.
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[Bug 1745551] Upgrade perl-HTTP-OAI to 4.10

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1745551

Jitka Plesnikova  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-HTTP-OAI-4.10-1.fc32
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
   Assignee|vano...@gmail.com   |jples...@redhat.com
Last Closed||2019-10-31 13:27:37



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Re: Orphaning owncloud and nextcloud

[Ivan Chavero]

I can take over nextcloud

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 5:20 AM James Hogarth 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> There's been no interest from anyone else so I've gone ahead and orphaned
> these.
>
> James
>
>
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 10:16, James Hogarth 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It's become clear that I haven't had the time I thought I'd have this
>> past year due to $life ...
>>
>> These are in a bit of a broken state and right now I'd advise people that
>> need them to use upstream packages/containers.
>>
>> I don't foresee sufficient time coming in the near future with family
>> needs in advance of hobbies like Fedora of course.
>>
>> I'll give it a week or so for anyone to contact me who wants to pick them
>> up, otherwise I'll update pagure to assign them to "orphan"
>>
>> James
>>
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Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Annobin Used By Bodhi

[Steve Grubb]

On Thursday, October 31, 2019 7:04:47 AM EDT Aleksandra Fedorova wrote:
> Following pingou's advice adding c...@fedoraproject.org
> 
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 10:03 PM Ben Cotton  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > (skipped)
> >
> >
> >
> > Note - I do not know *how* to add a run of the annocheck program to
> > the Bodhi process.  This change request is about asking that such a
> > thing be added.
> 
> 
> In this form I think it doesn't qualify as Fedora Change, so let's see
> how we can rework it.
> 
> 
> > * Proposal owners:
> > In theory there is very little that I can do personally.  I do not
> > have the knowledge to change the Bodhi process myself, so I will have
> > to rely upon someone else to do that.  I am familiar with the annobin
> > package however, so any changes that are needed to it I will be happy
> > to make.
> 
> 
> We have a similar check coming to Fedora Rawhide gating. It is called
> rpminspect [1]. Check also the talk from Flock 2019 [2].
> Tim Flink and David Cantrell are driving it, and afaik it is close to
> being done: the Jenkins job is already up and running and we are
> hooking it into the gating framework.
> 
> If I understand correctly, the setup for annocheck should be very
> similar, so we can reuse most of the work done for rpminspect, with
> only the content of the test being different.
> There are several work items related to that: setup of a Jenkins job,
> update of a Jenkins which is needed to migrate to a new Fedora
> messaging infrastructure.
> 
> We can coordinate of that via Fedora CI SIG [3], next meeting is on
> November 4th [4] by the way.
> 
> Maybe we can make it a joint effort and file one change for both
> rpminspect and annocheck?

And one tangential question...will rpmfusion and others be held to this new 
standard? Many of the multimedia parsers that round out the Fedora ecosystem 
come from that repository. They also tend to have a lot of CVE's. I've 
scanned a number of packages that handle untrusted content and the use of 
protection mechanisms are really not up to par with the rest of Fedora.

-Steve


> [1] https://github.com/rpminspect/rpminspect
> [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPxC185PBeI
> [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/CI
> [4] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/SIGs/2019/11/4/#m9618
> 
> -- 
> Aleksandra Fedorova
> bookwar
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[Bug 1747380] perl-Net-DNS-1.21 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1747380

Jitka Plesnikova  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 CC||jples...@redhat.com
   Fixed In Version||perl-Net-DNS-1.21-1.fc32
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
   Assignee|pwout...@redhat.com |jples...@redhat.com
Last Closed||2019-10-31 13:07:12



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[Bug 1767419] perl-App-cpm-0.987 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767419

Jitka Plesnikova  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-App-cpm-0.987-1.fc32
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2019-10-31 12:44:22



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[Bug 1767419] New: perl-App-cpm-0.987 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767419

Bug ID: 1767419
   Summary: perl-App-cpm-0.987 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-App-cpm
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: jples...@redhat.com,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 0.987
Current version/release in rawhide: 0.986-1.fc32
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/App-cpm/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy


More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring


Please keep in mind that with any upstream change, there may also be packaging
changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
responsibility to review the new version to ensure that the licensing is still
correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
upstream.


Based on the information from anitya:
https://release-monitoring.org/project/8399/

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Blender for Fedora 31 does not support multimedia?

[Code Zombie]

Hi

It seems that Blender 2.8 on Fedora 31 does not support sound and video
playback and export.
Does anyone have the same issue? Is that normal on Fedora 31?

- Mehdi
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Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

[Michal Schorm]

What is IMHO crucial is the understanding that the part of Fedora
infrastructure facing maintainers *needs* to respect the fact that
each (upstream) project is different, has different workflow, version
control system, way to make releases and to ship them, ... . Thus
Fedora must allow different approaches for different package(r)s.
A lot of automation would be appreciated, but it would turn to great
pain if enforced.

So, allow to go with PR-only workflow. Allow the PRs to be tested and
allow them to be automatically merged after passed testing, if the
maintainer sets so.
Opening PRs by release monitoring would be nice. Though the release
monitoring doesn’t work for my pkgs, since upstream does a series of
changes, git submodules fetching, and patching by other projects
before they release the tarball meant to be used as the sources.
Though it takes days to weeks after the upstream mark a certain commit
as “this we will release as version X.Y.Z.”, before they prepare the
tarball and test it for every channel they support.

Also, I *strongly believe*, we - as a significant GNU/Linux distro -
should use tools as are intended, instead of contrariwise.
And I believe the Git commit messages weren’t ever supposed to contain
magic words which will be parsed by some other tooling in order to
take actions. The annotated tags, on the other hand, seems (to me)
like a brilliant idea allowing us to kill the changelog that so much
maintainers desire to.

At the same time, there is so little documentation about “the right
way” to do things, as they are meant to. And only a small amount of
packagers knows the right ways and even less are taking them.
Commit messages are often useless as they don’t explain what changed,
why, and how. Patches doesn’t have any comments. Specfiles often
doesn’t have any good comments too - what the patch does, what for is
this dependency, why is that bundled, why is that test disabled, why
the build flags override … . (not only just) Provenpackages walking
around introducing changes that doesn’t make sense and doesn’t even
have a good justifications. Some people don't even care about e.g.
mentioning bundled part of the code … .
Working with other people’s packages are really hard. But IMHO, mostly
because of the people … .

As I work with newcomers, I see that it is really hard for new faces
to start - both before becoming packagers and even after that.
A huge number of tools and places they *should ideally* work with -
dist git, bodhi, bugzilla, PRs, pagure (to reach rel-engs), FAS,
koschei, abrt, anytia, modularity, wiki pages about the packages, wiki
pages about the changes, mailing lists, IRC, rpmlint, testing, … .
Even I find difficult to explore the full toolset that Fedora offers
and after years I still have no idea what the infrastructure looks
like, or where should I look it up.

And what is IMHO missing is the easy to explore documentation, or at
least some map of tools, ways and places with a “you are standing
here” mark and easy way to understand how to get where you want to be.
A huge FAQ (which would just link to the part of the documentation
with the answer) might help too, as I constantly see people new around
me asking the same questions again and again. Example questions: “can
I delete a branch? How to set EOL date for a module - it still keeps
building. How to write this and that in RPM. what to write to
changelog, what to commit message, what to bodhi update message, … ?
What does men the “rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT” in %install section? What
does that macro means? How do I find macro for this? Never heard of
“%{?systemd_requires}”, what’s that good for? Hey, you made that
scratch build just for aarch64 - how? ...”



All other observations, based on previous 200 mails, I’d summarize as:

*Please do:*
- kill changelog, please
   - by annotated git tags, please
- Unificate the authentication methods
- Make release monitoring submit PRs instead of patches to bugzilla
- Give packagers tools for working with the distribution (e.g. show me
my dependency tree.)
- Tools to maintain the package as a part of ditro, instead of alone
   - "Give me a list of all the things my package depends on, what
hasn't been updated in X years"
   - “rebuild things that depend on my package upon this commit”
- unified web UI with all the information & build states and a unified
CLI client for doing literally everything.
- Allow to adjusts packager’s workflow as he wants (in some mantinels)
via automatization
   - here I mean mostly automated testing, reporting, bodhi updates
(templates?), PR merging

*Please don’t:*
- require {most of the ideas} (like PR-only access, single branch,
source git, every commit is built...)
   - because they just doesn't work for everybody
- Kill ancient artifact around Fedora packaging (e.g. “rm -rf
$RPM_BUILD_ROOT” in `rpmdev-newspec`, about which newcommers still
asking )

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Re: List of Python 2 packages to be removed mid-November

[Rob Crittenden]

Miro Hrončok wrote:
> rcritten
>   certmonger
>     (BuildRequires: python2-dbus → PY2)

Ported to python 3 and respun.

rob
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Re: Orphaning owncloud and nextcloud

[James Hogarth]

Hi all,

There's been no interest from anyone else so I've gone ahead and orphaned
these.

James


On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 10:16, James Hogarth  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> It's become clear that I haven't had the time I thought I'd have this past
> year due to $life ...
>
> These are in a bit of a broken state and right now I'd advise people that
> need them to use upstream packages/containers.
>
> I don't foresee sufficient time coming in the near future with family
> needs in advance of hobbies like Fedora of course.
>
> I'll give it a week or so for anyone to contact me who wants to pick them
> up, otherwise I'll update pagure to assign them to "orphan"
>
> James
>
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Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Annobin Used By Bodhi

[Aleksandra Fedorova]

Following pingou's advice adding c...@fedoraproject.org

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 10:03 PM Ben Cotton  wrote:
>
> (skipped)
>
> Note - I do not know *how* to add a run of the annocheck program to
> the Bodhi process.  This change request is about asking that such a
> thing be added.

In this form I think it doesn't qualify as Fedora Change, so let's see
how we can rework it.

> * Proposal owners:
> In theory there is very little that I can do personally.  I do not
> have the knowledge to change the Bodhi process myself, so I will have
> to rely upon someone else to do that.  I am familiar with the annobin
> package however, so any changes that are needed to it I will be happy
> to make.

We have a similar check coming to Fedora Rawhide gating. It is called
rpminspect [1]. Check also the talk from Flock 2019 [2].
Tim Flink and David Cantrell are driving it, and afaik it is close to
being done: the Jenkins job is already up and running and we are
hooking it into the gating framework.

If I understand correctly, the setup for annocheck should be very
similar, so we can reuse most of the work done for rpminspect, with
only the content of the test being different.
There are several work items related to that: setup of a Jenkins job,
update of a Jenkins which is needed to migrate to a new Fedora
messaging infrastructure.

We can coordinate of that via Fedora CI SIG [3], next meeting is on
November 4th [4] by the way.

Maybe we can make it a joint effort and file one change for both
rpminspect and annocheck?

[1] https://github.com/rpminspect/rpminspect
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPxC185PBeI
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/CI
[4] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/SIGs/2019/11/4/#m9618

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Re: List of Python 2 packages to be removed mid-November

[Kevin Kofler]

Kevin Kofler wrote:

> Andrea Musuruane wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 4:25 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>>> bruno
>>>qgis
>>>  (BuildRequires: python2-sip-devel → PY2)
>>>
>> 
>> It seems there is a wrong dependency in the spec file:
>> 
>> BuildRequires:  sip-devel
>> 
>> Shouldn't this be BuildRequires:  python3-sip-devel?
> 
> Yep, looks like it, I have pinged Volker Fröhlich (volter) on IRC.

Should be fixed now:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/qgis/c/90d51e66860615c6c8c6e79486bfc2e8e3d38f17?branch=master
and the FTBFS fix so that it actually builds:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/qgis/c/c20fc4a59a39180ed25469d32f8dcfc7aa40356a?branch=master

Thanks Volker!

Kevin Kofler
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[Bug 1762445] package perl-HTTP-Tiny-0.076-1.module_2073+eebc5b71.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.26.2), but none of the providers can be installed

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1762445



--- Comment #2 from Petr Pisar  ---
Actually the package is part of perl-bootstrap:5.26:20180816141919:6c81f848
module. So please check perl-bootstrap modules.

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Projects in Copr muted on discussion.fedoraprojects.org

[Miroslav Suchý]

I finally found how to mute "Projects in Copr" on discussion.fedoraprojects.org.
It is now muted for new users and all **existing** users as well.
This should suppress this category from Latest and RSS as many people requested.

If you want to follow this category or topic in this category, please enable following in WebUI once again. Your choice 
will override the site defaults.


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[Bug 1762445] package perl-HTTP-Tiny-0.076-1.module_2073+eebc5b71.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.26.2), but none of the providers can be installed

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1762445



--- Comment #1 from Petr Pisar  ---
I cannot reproduce it.

"perl" module has no default stream thus it's not enabled by default. You can
check it with "dnf module list | grep '^perl\s'". There shouldn't be any [d] or
[e] next to the stream identifier. This is what I can see:

# dnf module list | grep '^perl\s' | sort
perl5.24   minimal, default
 Practical Extraction and Report Language   
perl5.26   minimal, default [d]
 Practical Extraction and Report Language   
perl5.26   minimal, default [d]
 Practical Extraction and Report Language   
perl5.26   minimal, default [d]
 Practical Extraction and Report Language   
perl5.28   minimal, default [d]
 Practical Extraction and Report Language   
perl5.28   minimal, default [d]
 Practical Extraction and Report Language   
perl5.30   common, minimal, default [d]
 Practical Extraction and Report Language   
perl5.30   common, minimal, default [d]
 Practical Extraction and Report Language

I suspect that you either enabled 5.26 stream by an accident, or set
module_hotfixes YUM repository configuration variable, or your repository
mirror is broken (e.g. missing a modular metadata), or you found some bug in
DNF.

You can locate a repository the offending packages comes from with "dnf info
perl-HTTP-Tiny" commnd and then check the appropriate modular metadata in
/var/cache/dnf/*/repodata/*modules.yaml.gz whether the package is listed under
data/artifacts/rpms YAML node.

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Re: GNU IceCat Updates

[Florian Weimer]

* Alireza Hayati:

> Do you know when it'll be ready? How much progress? And some days ago
> Firefox 70 released. Will new IceCat be shipped with Firefox 70?

I believe Icecat follows the ESR releases from Mozilla.  There doesn't
seem to be a release based on ESR 68 yet on ftp.gnu.org, but there is a
Git branch upstream.  (Firefox ESR releases happen roughly every eight
regular releases, I think.)

Thanks,
Florian
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Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Annobin Used By Bodhi

[Florian Weimer]

* Omair Majid:

>> It is desirable that the packaging guidelines be updated to describe
>> the security hardening features examined by annocheck.  (If they are
>> not already mentioned in the guidelines).
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/#_compiler_flags
> has some of this, but not all. It seems to me like annocheck is more
> strict than the current packaging guidelines.

annocheck verifies against the Fedora build flags defined in
redhat-rpm-config and documented here:



The part of the Packaging Guidelines you quote has largely been
obsoleted by the Harden All Packages change in Fedora 23, and subsequent
changes in the flags are not reflected there, either.

Thanks,
Florian
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[Bug 1765529] [RFE] EPEL8 branch of perl-Data-Serializer

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1765529



--- Comment #5 from Jitka Plesnikova  ---
All dependencies are in EPEL 8. 

Could you please build it now?

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Re: Official font

[Iñaki Ucar]

Great, thanks! That template looks wonderful!

Iñaki

El jue., 31 oct. 2019 0:48, Luya Tshimbalanga 
escribió:

>
> On 2019-10-30 9:54 a.m., Iñaki Ucar wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 17:42, Jakub Jelen  wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2019-10-30 at 16:58 +0100, Iñaki Ucar wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I incidentally discovered today that, since quite recently, there's a
> >>> Red Hat font [1]. And this led me to think about the popularity of
> >>> the
> >>> Ubuntu font, you know, and how nice would be to have a nice catchy
> >>> official Fedora font integrated into the distro... I'm just thinking
> >>> aloud, because I don't know anything about font design. But maybe
> >>> someone picks up the gauntlet... ;-)
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://github.com/RedHatOfficial/RedHatFont
> >> There is official Fedora font, used at least in the official Fedora
> >> presentation templates:
> >>
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations/Template
> >>
> >> Not sure how widely is it used elsewhere, but I certainly used that
> >> template few times.
> > "Comfortaa is used for titles and Droid Sans is used for body text."
> >
> > Kind of, but not quite what the "Ubuntu family" of fonts means to
> > Ubuntu, and what I had in mind. But I didn't know about this template
> > either, thanks.
> >
>
> Hello Iñaki,
>
> Comfortaa was the default in the past. Montserrat (already packaged in
> the repository) is the official fonts used by Design team. The linked
> template is outdated and on the way of revamp to use Montserrat [2].
>
> Reference
> --
>
> [1] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/julietaula-montserrat-fonts
>
> [2] https://pagure.io/design/issue/629
>
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[Bug 1767291] perl-Test2-Suite-0.000127 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767291

Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Test2-Suite-0.000127-1
   ||.fc32
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2019-10-31 09:03:35



--- Comment #1 from Petr Pisar  ---
A bug-fix release suitable for Fedora ≥ 32.

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