Re: rawhide - glibc/pthreads/... - broken pending mass rebuild?

2020-06-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Alex Scheel: > Is Fedora Rawhide unstable at the moment, pending a mass rebuild? > > I've seen a lot of random problems related to pthreads at the > moment, such as: > > 16/78 Test #12: JSS_DER_Encoding_of_Enumeration_regression_test ...Child > aborted***Exception: 0.99 sec > FINE:

[Test-Announce] [Test Day] F33 SwapOnZRAM 2020-07-06

2020-06-30 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
Hey Testers, Monday, 2020-07-06 will be SwapOnZRAM Test Day[0]! This Test Day will focus on SwapOnZRAM[1]. Swap partition is useful, except when it's slow. Zram is a RAM drive that uses compression. Create a swap-on-zram during start-up. And no longer use swap partitions by default. The zram

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread Dennis Keefe
Stratis allows users to manage XFS filesystems using a pool of block devices. Features include: thin-provisioning, snapshots, and encryption Stratis does come under the Springfield umbrella. We are an active team and happy to respond to our public mailing list, if anyone has questions at

Re: drop bfq scheduler, instead use mq-deadline across the board

2020-06-30 Thread Tom Seewald
> I'm not convinced it's the domain of an IO scheduler to be involved, > rather than it being explicit UX intended by the desktop environment. > Seems to me the desktop environment is in a better position to know > what users expect. Well wouldn't bfq just be enforcing the bandwidth weights, if

Re: drop bfq scheduler, instead use mq-deadline across the board

2020-06-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:02 PM Tom Seewald wrote: > > I forgot to mention that bfq appears to be the only IO scheduler that > supports cgroups-v2 IO controllers [1]. Perhaps I am wrong, but I wasn't able > to find documentation indicating that mq-deadline is cgroup-aware, at the > very least

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 6:21 AM Antti wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm in total opposition to this proposal as a long-time Fedora user. The > btrfs is unstable and not ready for production. Most of what I'm about to > write is admittedly anecdotal but it's the only file system in Linux which > has

[Bug 1851453] Add perl-DateTime-Format-ICal to EPEL8

2020-06-30 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1851453 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA --- Comment #3 from

[Bug 1851457] Add perl-DateTime-Event-ICal into EPEL8

2020-06-30 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1851457 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA --- Comment #3 from

[Bug 1850757] Add perl-DateTime-Event-Recurrence to EPEL8

2020-06-30 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1850757 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA --- Comment #3 from

[Bug 1849339] perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.20200620 is available

2020-06-30 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1849339 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version|perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.2 |perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.2

[Bug 1849339] perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.20200620 is available

2020-06-30 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1849339 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ON_QA |CLOSED Fixed In

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 7:16 pm, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: The issue isn't that you haven't done your work. It is that it looks like you were set up to fail. The email from Michael comes across that Workstation couldn't make a decision and told you to go see if FESCO would approve it... but

Re: python-sphinx_rtd_theme update: comments requested

2020-06-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 01. 07. 20 0:47, Jerry James wrote: Third, any package that includes documentation generated from this package will need this: Requires: font(fontawesome) Requires: font(lato) Requires: font(robotoslab) Quick idea: Package an RPM dependency generator into

Re: drop bfq scheduler, instead use mq-deadline across the board

2020-06-30 Thread Tom Seewald
I forgot to mention that bfq appears to be the only IO scheduler that supports cgroups-v2 IO controllers [1]. Perhaps I am wrong, but I wasn't able to find documentation indicating that mq-deadline is cgroup-aware, at the very least it's not documented in the official deadline tunables section

Re: Enable EarlyOOM on Fedora KDE - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:42 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:30 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > > I am opposed to this change, for the same reasons I was opposed to EarlyOOM > > to begin with: this solution kills processes under arbitrary conditions that > > are neither necessary

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 30.6.2020 22:38, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: sd-boot is already installed on end users system, is light weight compared to Grub ( sd-boot only supports uefi,smaller code size, easier to maintain ). And that is exactly the problem, systemd-boot has only a small fraction

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 17:09, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:30 PM Justin Forbes wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:39 PM John M. Harris Jr > > wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:22:00 AM MST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 11:09,

Re: Lua 5.4.0

2020-06-30 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Tom Callaway [30/06/2020 18:00] : > > lua-event seems to be broken because of broken deps unrelated to Lua > 5.4: nothing provides perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.30.1) needed by > perl-Monotone-1.1-34.fc32.x86_64, so I left it alone. FTR, We've moved on to Perl 5.32.x so monotone needs to be rebuild

Re: Lua 5.4.0

2020-06-30 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:01 PM Tom Callaway wrote: > lua-event seems to be broken because of broken deps unrelated to Lua 5.4: > nothing provides perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.30.1) needed by > perl-Monotone-1.1-34.fc32.x86_64, so I left it alone. I opened this pull request against monotone to try

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes > it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop supporting > booting in legacy bios mode and move to uefi only supported boot which > has been available on any common intel based x86

python-sphinx_rtd_theme update: comments requested

2020-06-30 Thread Jerry James
sphinx_rtd_theme 0.5.0 is out. I have taken the unprecedented step (for me!) of creating a pull request instead of just updating the package, because I'm taking a few steps that I would like to have other eyes on. Pull request:

Re: Enable EarlyOOM on Fedora KDE - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:30 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/KDEEarlyOOM > > > > == Summary == > > As [[Changes/EnableEarlyoom|Fedora Workstation did in F32]], install > > earlyoom package, and enable it by default. If both RAM and swap go

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 30.6.2020 22:31, nick...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 21:55 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 30.6.2020 21:14, nick...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 20:32 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Grub discourages users who have tried sd-boot from coming/returning to

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > sd-boot is already installed on end users system, is light weight > compared to Grub ( sd-boot only supports uefi,smaller code size, easier > to maintain ). And that is exactly the problem, systemd-boot has only a small fraction of the feature set of GRUB. That is

rawhide - glibc/pthreads/... - broken pending mass rebuild?

2020-06-30 Thread Alex Scheel
Is Fedora Rawhide unstable at the moment, pending a mass rebuild? I've seen a lot of random problems related to pthreads at the moment, such as: 16/78 Test #12: JSS_DER_Encoding_of_Enumeration_regression_test ...Child aborted***Exception: 0.99 sec FINE: CryptoManager: loading JSS library

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread James Cassell
On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Markus Larsson wrote: > On Mon, 2020-06-29 at 18:51 -0400, James Cassell wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Markus S. wrote: > > > Why not Stratis? > > > > Stratis cannot be used to build the root filesystem. (It's been > > answered elsewhere in the

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread nickysn
On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 21:55 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > On 30.6.2020 21:14, nick...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 20:32 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > > Grub discourages users who have tried sd-boot from > > > coming/returning > > > to > > > Fedora [1]. > > > > > >

Re: Enable EarlyOOM on Fedora KDE - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/KDEEarlyOOM > > == Summary == > As [[Changes/EnableEarlyoom|Fedora Workstation did in F32]], install > earlyoom package, and enable it by default. If both RAM and swap go below > 10% free, earlyoom issues SIGTERM to the process with the

[Bug 1852622] perl-Astro-FITS-CFITSIO-1.14 is available

2020-06-30 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1852622 --- Comment #2 from Upstream Release Monitoring --- the-new-hotness/release-monitoring.org's scratch build of perl-Astro-FITS-CFITSIO-1.14-1.fc32.src.rpm for rawhide completed http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=46400599 --

Re: module 'posix' not found when module load mpi/mpich-x86_64

2020-06-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 06. 20 19:34, Christoph Junghans wrote: Adding BuildRequires: lua-posix doesn't help. lua-posix was rebuilt for Lua 5.4 hence it is installed into /usr/share/lua/5.4 lmod searches in /usr/share/lua/5.3 Any ideas? Does lmod need a rebuild for lua-5.3? Given the above I assume Lmod

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "James Cassell" > To: "Fedora Development List" > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:08:30 PM > Subject: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default > file system for desktop variants > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, at 10:18 AM, Steven

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread James Cassell
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, at 10:18 AM, Steven Whitehouse wrote: > I know it has been rather confined to Red Hat internally, however that > was not the intention, and in fact I would like to strongly encourage > community involvement. There is an upstream mailing list, which > currently has almost

Re: Lua 5.4.0

2020-06-30 Thread Tom Callaway
All of these are now fixed, except for lua-luv and lua-event. Lua-luv needs a fixed cmake (FindLua.cmake needed patching to find Lua 5.4). I've been trying to build a new cmake in rawhide all afternoon, but s390x fails to get a buildroot established each time (not due to cmake issues). The lua-luv

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 30.6.2020 21:14, nick...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 20:32 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Grub discourages users who have tried sd-boot from coming/returning to Fedora [1]. Bottom line I think this will be a good move for the distribution and a good time to start looking

[Bug 1852622] perl-Astro-FITS-CFITSIO-1.14 is available

2020-06-30 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1852622 --- Comment #1 from Upstream Release Monitoring --- Created attachment 1699392 --> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1699392=edit [patch] Update to 1.14 (#1852622) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC

[Bug 1852622] New: perl-Astro-FITS-CFITSIO-1.14 is available

2020-06-30 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1852622 Bug ID: 1852622 Summary: perl-Astro-FITS-CFITSIO-1.14 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Status: NEW Component: perl-Astro-FITS-CFITSIO Keywords:

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread Justin Forbes
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:29 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 5:19 PM Justin Forbes wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:02 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:30 PM Justin Forbes > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:39 PM John M.

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 5:19 PM Justin Forbes wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:02 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:30 PM Justin Forbes wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:39 PM John M. Harris Jr > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:22:00

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread Justin Forbes
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:02 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:30 PM Justin Forbes wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:39 PM John M. Harris Jr > > wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:22:00 AM MST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 11:09,

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread nickysn
On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 20:32 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > > Grub discourages users who have tried sd-boot from coming/returning > to > Fedora [1]. > > Bottom line I think this will be a good move for the distribution and > a > good time to start looking into and make that move. > >

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: Patches in Forge macros - Auto macros - Detached rpm changelogs - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le mardi 30 juin 2020 à 21:45 +0200, Igor Raits a écrit : > On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 15:19 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Patches_in_Forge_macros_-_Auto_macros_-_Detached_rpm_changelogs > > > > == Summary == > > > > redhat-rpm-config will be updated to

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:30 PM Justin Forbes wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:39 PM John M. Harris Jr > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:22:00 AM MST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 11:09, Michael Catanzaro > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue,

Re: drop bfq scheduler, instead use mq-deadline across the board

2020-06-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 07:28:53PM +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 17:23:16 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 04:25:23PM +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 15:01:24 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread drago01
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, Justin Forbes wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:39 PM John M. Harris Jr > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:22:00 AM MST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 11:09, Michael Catanzaro > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30,

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 01:34:42PM -0400, Robbie Harwood wrote: > Igor Raits writes: > > > On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 13:34 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > [snip] > > I think there are many people still install OS in the legacy mode, but > > I don't really have numbers. One thing we

Re: python-reportlab: undefined-non-weak-symbol

2020-06-30 Thread Antonio T. sagitter
Thank you Jerry. On 30/06/20 22:22, Jerry James wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 11:45 AM Antonio T. sagitter > wrote: >> Are these `undefined-non-weak-symbol` expected in python-reportlab? >> >> https://pastebin.com/dRZUbpJx > > Yes, see this thread: > >

Re: python-reportlab: undefined-non-weak-symbol

2020-06-30 Thread Antonio T. sagitter
Thank you Jerry. On 30/06/20 22:22, Jerry James wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 11:45 AM Antonio T. sagitter > wrote: >> Are these `undefined-non-weak-symbol` expected in python-reportlab? >> >> https://pastebin.com/dRZUbpJx > > Yes, see this thread: > >

Re: Better Thermal Management for the Workstation - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 9:40 pm, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: The legal status of the extracted tables was discussed a few months ago with members of the Fedora legal team. You can check archives. I tried:

Re: Better Thermal Management for the Workstation - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 16:14, Jared Dominguez wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 3:41 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > wrote: >> >> On 30.06.2020 19:43, Hans de Goede wrote: >> > That is the first time I have heard that. Do you have a source for that ? >> >> https://github.com/intel/dptfxtract

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 30.6.2020 19:22, Robbie Harwood wrote: Jóhann B. Guðmundsson writes: On 30.6.2020 17:49, John M. Harris Jr wrote: On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:34:27 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes it beg the question if now would

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: RPM-level auto release and changelog bumping - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le mardi 30 juin 2020 à 21:33 +0200, Igor Raits a écrit : > On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 15:19 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/rpm_level_auto_release_and_changelog_bumping > > > > The change will make those packages auto-bump and auto-changelog at > > the rpm level,

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread Justin Forbes
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:39 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:22:00 AM MST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 11:09, Michael Catanzaro > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:26 am, Stephen Gallagher > > > wrote: > > > > > > > For

Re: python-reportlab: undefined-non-weak-symbol

2020-06-30 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 11:45 AM Antonio T. sagitter wrote: > Are these `undefined-non-weak-symbol` expected in python-reportlab? > > https://pastebin.com/dRZUbpJx Yes, see this thread:

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 30.6.2020 18:32, John M. Harris Jr wrote: On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:29:13 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 30.6.2020 17:49, John M. Harris Jr wrote: On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:34:27 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome

Re: Better Thermal Management for the Workstation - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Jared Dominguez
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 3:41 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 30.06.2020 19:43, Hans de Goede wrote: > > That is the first time I have heard that. Do you have a source for that ? > > https://github.com/intel/dptfxtract - no sources, only proprietary >

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 30.6.2020 18:45, Reindl Harald (privat) wrote: Am 30.06.20 um 20:29 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 30.6.2020 17:49, John M. Harris Jr wrote: On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:34:27 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes it

Re: IBus 1.5.23 - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Igor Raits
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 15:20 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IBus_1.5.23 > > == Summary == > IBus 1.5.23 will replace the allowlist of XKB engines with the > blocklist of XKB ones. > > == Owner == > * Name:

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

2020-06-30 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 21:24, Robert-André Mauchin wrote: > > May I suggest another option? > I provide a package for Micro, an editor written in Go with a discoverable > interface. https://micro-editor.github.io/ > > It is compiled as a static binary of 4.6 MB with no dependency. Probably >

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Patches in Forge macros - Auto macros - Detached rpm changelogs - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Igor Raits
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 15:19 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Patches_in_Forge_macros_-_Auto_macros_-_Detached_rpm_changelogs > > == Summary == > > redhat-rpm-config will be updated to add patching support to

Re: Better Thermal Management for the Workstation - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 30.06.2020 19:43, Hans de Goede wrote: > That is the first time I have heard that. Do you have a source for that ? https://github.com/intel/dptfxtract - no sources, only proprietary binaries. The legal status of the extracted tables was discussed a few months ago with members of the Fedora

Re: Introduce Storage Instantiation Daemon - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Igor Raits
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 15:18 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SID > > == Summary == > Introduce Storage Instantiation Daemon (SID) that aims to provide a > central event-driven engine to write modules for identifying

Re: [Fedora-packaging] RPM-level auto release and changelog bumping - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Igor Raits
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 15:19 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/rpm_level_auto_release_and_changelog_bumping > > == Summary == > > redhat-rpm-config will be updated so users of the auto framework get > automated

Patches in Forge macros - Auto macros - Detached rpm changelogs - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Patches_in_Forge_macros_-_Auto_macros_-_Detached_rpm_changelogs == Summary == redhat-rpm-config will be updated to add patching support to forge macros, a plug-able framework to register macros to execute in specific sections, and rpm changelogs in detached

IBus 1.5.23 - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IBus_1.5.23 == Summary == IBus 1.5.23 will replace the allowlist of XKB engines with the blocklist of XKB ones. == Owner == * Name: [[User:Fujiwara| Takao Fujiwara]] * Email: fujiwara [at] redhat [dot] com == Detailed Description == IBus currently provides

Introduce Storage Instantiation Daemon - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SID == Summary == Introduce Storage Instantiation Daemon (SID) that aims to provide a central event-driven engine to write modules for identifying specific Linux storage devices, their dependencies, collecting information and state tracking while being aware

RPM-level auto release and changelog bumping - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/rpm_level_auto_release_and_changelog_bumping == Summary == redhat-rpm-config will be updated so users of the auto framework get automated release and changelog bumping. == Owner == * Name: [[User:nim| Nicolas Mailhot]] * Email: == Detailed Description

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Robbie Harwood
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson writes: > On 30.6.2020 17:49, John M. Harris Jr wrote: >> On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:34:27 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: >>> Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes >>> it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop

RPM-level auto release and changelog bumping - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/rpm_level_auto_release_and_changelog_bumping == Summary == redhat-rpm-config will be updated so users of the auto framework get automated release and changelog bumping. == Owner == * Name: [[User:nim| Nicolas Mailhot]] * Email: == Detailed Description

IBus 1.5.23 - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IBus_1.5.23 == Summary == IBus 1.5.23 will replace the allowlist of XKB engines with the blocklist of XKB ones. == Owner == * Name: [[User:Fujiwara| Takao Fujiwara]] * Email: fujiwara [at] redhat [dot] com == Detailed Description == IBus currently provides

Patches in Forge macros - Auto macros - Detached rpm changelogs - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Patches_in_Forge_macros_-_Auto_macros_-_Detached_rpm_changelogs == Summary == redhat-rpm-config will be updated to add patching support to forge macros, a plug-able framework to register macros to execute in specific sections, and rpm changelogs in detached

Introduce Storage Instantiation Daemon - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SID == Summary == Introduce Storage Instantiation Daemon (SID) that aims to provide a central event-driven engine to write modules for identifying specific Linux storage devices, their dependencies, collecting information and state tracking while being aware

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

2020-06-30 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On Thursday, 25 June 2020 19:18:59 CEST Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/UseNanoByDefault > > == Summary == > > Let's make Fedora more approachable, by having a default editor that > doesn't require specialist knowledge to use. > > == Owner == > * Name:

[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL repos packaged for Fedora (for repoquery)

2020-06-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 06. 20 21:03, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I don't think a package-review is needed? It would just be unretiring the fedora branches of an existing package? Technically, the package is "retired for 8+ weeks" on Fedora. Hence a new review request. That said, I am -1 on the idea. You have no

[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL repos packaged for Fedora (for repoquery)

2020-06-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 06. 20 20:57, Neal Gompa wrote: I'm not sure this is a good idea. Also, queries and figuring out dependencies still requires having RHEL/CentOS repositories, which this package would not provide. That is a known limitation, but I wouldn't say this makes it "not a good idea". Would you

[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL repos packaged for Fedora (for repoquery)

2020-06-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 06:46:43PM -, Miro Hrončok wrote: > To scratch my own itch I've packaged EPEL repos for Fedora. I've decided to > use the existing epel-release component for this (but I am OK to get a > different name, such as epel-repos). > > See

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread PGNet Dev
On 6/30/20 11:38 AM, Tom Seewald wrote: > The primary areas of concern I have about Fedora dropping grub2 and BIOS boot > support are: nicely summarized. > 4. Support documentation for sd-boot > > Would this result in changes to how users access the boot menu, select a boot > entry, or edit

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:39 PM Tom Seewald wrote: > > > Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes > > it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop supporting > > booting in legacy bios mode and move to uefi only supported boot which > > has been

[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL repos packaged for Fedora (for repoquery)

2020-06-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:46 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > To scratch my own itch I've packaged EPEL repos for Fedora. I've decided to > use the existing epel-release component for this (but I am OK to get a > different name, such as epel-repos). > > See

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:39 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:22:00 AM MST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 11:09, Michael Catanzaro > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:26 am, Stephen Gallagher > > > wrote: > > > > > > > For

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:30 AM Antti wrote: > > > Another way to consider this would be that we can stop arguing against these > > changes, let the GNOME folks run the ship aground, and hope that the user > > backlash will act as a wakeup call when it comes to these changes. I agree > > that

[EPEL-devel] EPEL repos packaged for Fedora (for repoquery)

2020-06-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
To scratch my own itch I've packaged EPEL repos for Fedora. I've decided to use the existing epel-release component for this (but I am OK to get a different name, such as epel-repos). See https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/epel-release/pull-request/9 And

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Tom Seewald
> Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes > it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop supporting > booting in legacy bios mode and move to uefi only supported boot which > has been available on any common intel based x86 platform since atleast >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:22:00 AM MST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 11:09, Michael Catanzaro > wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:26 am, Stephen Gallagher > > wrote: > > > > > For the record, as this directly affects the Workstation deliverable, > > > I will

Re: [EPEL] rpmconf question for EPEL7 on Amazon Linux 2

2020-06-30 Thread Scott Talbert
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020, Christopher wrote: I know Fedora doesn't directly support Amazon Linux, but I was wondering if the package maintainer for rpmconf on EPEL was aware that the latest version doesn't work on Amazon Linux 2, which recently updated to python-3.7, whereas rpmconf has a direct

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:29:13 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > On 30.6.2020 17:49, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:34:27 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > >> Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes > >> it beg the question if

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 30.6.2020 17:49, John M. Harris Jr wrote: On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:34:27 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop supporting booting in legacy bios mode and move to

Re: drop bfq scheduler, instead use mq-deadline across the board

2020-06-30 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 17:23:16 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 04:25:23PM +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 15:01:24 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1851783 > > > > > > The main argument is that for

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread Stasiek Michalski
> I can only offer descriptions of symptoms of trouble from the web back-end > developer / > desktop end-user PoW which starts to appear in personal computers where I > have used or > currently do use btrfs if not full-time. I made a long list of these > yesterday and only > some of them can be

[EPEL] rpmconf question for EPEL7 on Amazon Linux 2

2020-06-30 Thread Christopher
Hi, I know Fedora doesn't directly support Amazon Linux, but I was wondering if the package maintainer for rpmconf on EPEL was aware that the latest version doesn't work on Amazon Linux 2, which recently updated to python-3.7, whereas rpmconf has a direct dependency on python(abi)=3.6. If it's

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Jiří Eischmann
Adam Williamson píše v Út 30. 06. 2020 v 08:25 -0700: > On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 16:23 +0200, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > > W dniu 30.06.2020 o 15:34, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson pisze: > > > Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream > > > changes it beg the question if now would not

Re: Enable EarlyOOM on Fedora KDE - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:25:02 AM MST Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/KDEEarlyOOM > > == Summary == > As [[Changes/EnableEarlyoom|Fedora Workstation did in F32]], install > earlyoom package, and enable it by default. If both RAM and swap go below > 10% free, earlyoom

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 30.6.2020 17:47, Robbie Harwood wrote: Jóhann B. Guðmundsson writes: On 30.6.2020 13:56, Igor Raits wrote: On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 13:34 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes it beg the question if now would not be the

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 7:00:00 AM MST Florian Weimer wrote: > * Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > > > > Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream > > changes it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop > > supporting booting in legacy bios mode and move to uefi only

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:34:27 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes > it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop supporting > booting in legacy bios mode and move to uefi only supported boot which > has

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Robbie Harwood
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson writes: > On 30.6.2020 13:56, Igor Raits wrote: >> On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 13:34 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: >>> >>> Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream >>> changes it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop >>> supporting

Cleaning up comps packages in rawhide

2020-06-30 Thread Ian McInerney
I have been going through the packages listed in the comps file for rawhide (given in here https://pagure.io/fedora-comps) to clean it up and remove any packages that are currently not in any Fedora rawhide repos, and to update the architectures for packages that are only available on certain

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-06-30 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 30.6.2020 17:15, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: Hi, So I can't say I'm thrilled about a future that depends on EFI for virt, but I'm resigned to the fact this is the direction the world is taking. So we're not likely to have any choice and will have to work to mitigate any downsides it brings.

python-reportlab: undefined-non-weak-symbol

2020-06-30 Thread Antonio T. sagitter
Hi all. Are these `undefined-non-weak-symbol` expected in python-reportlab? https://pastebin.com/dRZUbpJx -- --- Antonio Trande Fedora Project mailto: sagit...@fedoraproject.org GPG key: 0x7B30EE04E576AA84 GPG key server: https://keys.openpgp.org/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

python-reportlab: undefined-non-weak-symbol

2020-06-30 Thread Antonio T. sagitter
Hi all. Are these `undefined-non-weak-symbol` expected in python-reportlab? https://pastebin.com/dRZUbpJx -- --- Antonio Trande Fedora Project mailto: sagit...@fedoraproject.org GPG key: 0x7B30EE04E576AA84 GPG key server: https://keys.openpgp.org/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: Better Thermal Management for the Workstation - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-06-30 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 6/30/20 5:48 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 30.06.2020 15:25, Ben Cotton wrote: Better thermal management and peak performance on Intel CPUs by including thermald in the default install. Good, but thermald is absolutely useless without configs. Configs can be extracted from

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