[Test-Announce] [Test Week] F33 Btrfs by default starts 2020-08-31

2020-08-29 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
Hey All,

A new change proposal has been submitted for the Fedora 33 release
cycle which entails the usage of Btrfs by default [0] for Workstations and
Spins across x86_64 and ARM architectures, As a result, we have
organized a test week from Monday, Aug 31, 2020. As a part of this test
week, we will aim at folks running a VM or bare metal install with
Btrfs as storage and sharing their experience for the following scenarios:

1. Install use it normally for a week and report any and all issues,
concerns, questions that come up
2. Testing the BlivetGUI installer options along with the Custom
3. Suspend to RAM
4. Suspend to Disk
5. Reinstalling F33  on an installed Fedora partition and preserving
/home and its data
6. Help find outdated docs and report them to QA team and WS team

Results can be submitted for the test cases[2]

Refer to the wiki page[1] for links to the test cases and materials
you’ll need to participate!

As usual, we will hang out on the #fedora-test-day over Freenode to
address questions

[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BtrfsByDefault
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2020-08-31_Btrfs_default
[2]https://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/92

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services impact on startup times

2020-08-29 Thread Chris Murphy
Hi,

These are based on Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-33-20200828.n.0.iso
in a VM. The numbers are different on bare metal but correlate.

The only standout is rngd.service. That's a pretty big single hit,
percentage wise. And I don't know if we even need it anymore. Among
the rest, perhaps atd.service and crond.service could be disabled by
default on new installations, in favor of systemd timers.

Startup finished in 1.320s (kernel) + 1.344s (initrd) + 7.727s
(userspace) = 10.392s
disable atd.service
Startup finished in 1.308s (kernel) + 1.310s (initrd) + 7.557s
(userspace) = 10.176s
disable dbxtool.service
Startup finished in 1.302s (kernel) + 1.291s (initrd) + 7.527s
(userspace) = 10.120s
disable import-state.service
Startup finished in 1.308s (kernel) + 1.326s (initrd) + 7.410s
(userspace) = 10.044s
disable iscsi.service
Startup finished in 1.316s (kernel) + 1.303s (initrd) + 7.177s
(userspace) = 9.797s
disable libvirtd.service
Startup finished in 1.316s (kernel) + 1.266s (initrd) + 6.779s
(userspace) = 9.361s
disable lvm2-monitor.service
Startup finished in 1.315s (kernel) + 1.323s (initrd) + 6.750s
(userspace) = 9.389s
disable mdmonitor.service
Startup finished in 1.316s (kernel) + 1.350s (initrd) + 6.675s
(userspace) = 9.342s
disable ModemManager.service
Startup finished in 1.270s (kernel) + 1.305s (initrd) + 7.052s
(userspace) = 9.629s
disable nfs-convert.service
Startup finished in 1.312s (kernel) + 1.343s (initrd) + 6.958s
(userspace) = 9.614s
disable rngd.service
Startup finished in 1.308s (kernel) + 1.277s (initrd) + 5.247s
(userspace) = 7.833s
disable switcheroo-control.service
Startup finished in 1.308s (kernel) + 1.334s (initrd) + 5.223s
(userspace) = 7.867s
disable vboxservice.service
Startup finished in 1.301s (kernel) + 1.302s (initrd) + 5.176s
(userspace) = 7.780s
disable crond.service
Startup finished in 1.310s (kernel) + 1.278s (initrd) + 5.076s
(userspace) = 7.665s

preset-all
Startup finished in 1.316s (kernel) + 1.312s (initrd) + 7.869s
(userspace) = 10.498s  ##stopwatch 11.35
disable atd.service crond.service iscsi.service rngd.service vboxservice.service
Startup finished in 1.305s (kernel) + 1.294s (initrd) + 5.505s
(userspace) = 8.105s   ##stopwatch 8.89

All of these times are based on 'systemd-analyze'. The stopwatch
method is less precise but still demonstrates the difference is real.

It may not be a big enough deal to do anything about it this cycle,
but could be something to look at for the next. Maybe more
opportunities are available.


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Re: %lua_requires behaves differently in F33+

2020-08-29 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Sat, 2020-08-29 at 19:16 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 29. 08. 20 4:43, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> > - I'll refactor lua in Fedora so lua-devel pulls in lua-rpm-macros
> > rather than shipping macros.lua, then enable shipping macros.lua in
> > lua-rpm-macros (right now it's excluded on Fedora to avoid file
> > conflicts)
> 
> Please make it conditional on rpm-build. That way, Lua developers not
> interested 
> in RPM packaging won't get unneeded packages.
> 
Definitely. Right now anyone pulling in lua-devel gets the macros which
is not ideal.

> See python3-devel:
> 
> Requires: (python3-rpm-macros if rpm-build)
> 
Yup, I've been borrowing liberally from the Python rpm-macros package
(and the updated packaging guideline I'm working on is also liberally
borrowing from the Python guidelines. Thanks for this pointer though,
I've not started looking at python-devel yet!

> (BTW count me in for the SIG)
> 
Will do, thanks for the interest! I figured some core developers will
be interested given how critical some Lua scripts are for packaging.

Quick question: for Python there's both python-devel and python-sig --
this seems overkill for Lua, right? Would starting lua@lists be enough?

(Also, I couldn't find documentation on starting a new mailing list.
Presumably an Infra pagure ticket?)

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Re: Switching package to fragmented default configuration

2020-08-29 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Igor Raits wrote:

> And only way to get to the distribution defaults is to download RPM
> with matching version, unpack it and get its /etc/foo.conf. 

On ostree-based systems, the defaults for /etc are in /usr/etc, so
you always have them - it needs this to do the "3 way merge" upgrade
for config files.

> > What is the actual benefit of this? Needlessly breaking existing 
> > configuration, making it impossible to cleanly upgrade systems, 
> > or write logic that takes into account the existing configuration of
> > a given 
> > program? If you blow away /etc/, you will have a well and truly
> > broken system. 
> > If you want to start a configuration from scratch, re-install.
> > There's nothing 
> > wrong with that approach, and it works very well. This has been the
> > case for 
> > nearly three decades now

https://blog.verbum.org/2020/08/22/immutable-%E2%86%92-reprovisionable-anti-hysteresis/
touches on some of the benefits of "fragmented" configs.
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Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-08-29 Thread Chris Murphy
Observations based on Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-33-20200828.n.0.iso

1. The ext4+squashfs image on media has no /etc/resolv.conf at all;
this is what forms the basis of /dev/mapper/live-base, and is the
source for installations (copied by rsync).

2. The installation live environment uses /dev/mapper/live-rw as
system root; it has an /etc/resolv.conf symlink pointed to
/run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf

3. The installed system has an /etc/resolv.conf file following
installation (while still in the installation environment). First line
is:
# This file is managed by man:systemd-resolved(8). Do not edit.

4. Following a reboot, the system has an /etc/resolv.conf file. First line is:
# Generated by NetworkManager


Are these the expected behavior?

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Re: Switching package to fragmented default configuration

2020-08-29 Thread Igor Raits
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On Sat, 2020-08-29 at 11:02 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:00:17 AM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > On 8/28/20 9:40 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> > 
> > > Please don't invent a new logic, especially the one that systemd
> > > does.
> > > This makes it very difficult to figure out where in the world the
> > > configuration file for a given program is. With systemd, sure,
> > > it's not
> > > so bad, as the
> > 
> > System defaults go in /usr/share/.  Admin overrides go in
> > /etc.
> 
> If you're going to put defaults anywhere, /etc is the most logical
> place. When 
> admins want to override, they'll modify the files that are there.
> See, for 
> example, /etc/resolv.conf, the file used to tell the system resolver
> what DNS 
> servers to use. By default, it's generated by your installer or by 
> NetworkManager. When modified, it's now using "admin overrides".

And only way to get to the distribution defaults is to download RPM
with matching version, unpack it and get its /etc/foo.conf. When
default distribution configs are in /usr, then you can easily remove
config from /etc and that's it.

> > > command will tell you where the unit file is. There's no such
> > > command for,
> > > for example, chronyd, httpd or any other program that itself
> > > isn't using
> > > such a convoluted configuration system. Even systemd wouldn't
> > > work if you
> > > blew away / etc.
> > 
> > 
> > It should.  If not, that's where they want to get to.
> 
> What is the actual benefit of this? Needlessly breaking existing 
> configuration, making it impossible to cleanly upgrade systems, 
> or write logic that takes into account the existing configuration of
> a given 
> program? If you blow away /etc/, you will have a well and truly
> broken system. 
> If you want to start a configuration from scratch, re-install.
> There's nothing 
> wrong with that approach, and it works very well. This has been the
> case for 
> nearly three decades now.

First of all, as long as /etc/foo.conf location stays same, it takes
precedence over the /usr configuration, so nothing will be broken on
the update.

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Re: Switching package to fragmented default configuration

2020-08-29 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:00:17 AM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 8/28/20 9:40 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> 
> > Please don't invent a new logic, especially the one that systemd does.
> > This makes it very difficult to figure out where in the world the
> > configuration file for a given program is. With systemd, sure, it's not
> > so bad, as the
> 
> System defaults go in /usr/share/.  Admin overrides go in /etc.

If you're going to put defaults anywhere, /etc is the most logical place. When 
admins want to override, they'll modify the files that are there. See, for 
example, /etc/resolv.conf, the file used to tell the system resolver what DNS 
servers to use. By default, it's generated by your installer or by 
NetworkManager. When modified, it's now using "admin overrides".

> > command will tell you where the unit file is. There's no such command for,
> > for example, chronyd, httpd or any other program that itself isn't using
> > such a convoluted configuration system. Even systemd wouldn't work if you
> > blew away / etc.
> 
> 
> It should.  If not, that's where they want to get to.

What is the actual benefit of this? Needlessly breaking existing 
configuration, making it impossible to cleanly upgrade systems, 
or write logic that takes into account the existing configuration of a given 
program? If you blow away /etc/, you will have a well and truly broken system. 
If you want to start a configuration from scratch, re-install. There's nothing 
wrong with that approach, and it works very well. This has been the case for 
nearly three decades now.

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Re: %lua_requires behaves differently in F33+

2020-08-29 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 29. 08. 20 4:43, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:

- I'll refactor lua in Fedora so lua-devel pulls in lua-rpm-macros
rather than shipping macros.lua, then enable shipping macros.lua in
lua-rpm-macros (right now it's excluded on Fedora to avoid file
conflicts)


Please make it conditional on rpm-build. That way, Lua developers not interested 
in RPM packaging won't get unneeded packages.


See python3-devel:

Requires: (python3-rpm-macros if rpm-build)

(BTW count me in for the SIG)

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Re: %lua_requires behaves differently in F33+

2020-08-29 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 29. 08. 20 3:36, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:

Somehow this seems to be automatically applied on Fedora 33 and above
-- without adding any manual require on lua(abi)


Yes, this is done by the automatic dependency generator in Fedora 33+:

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/lua/pull-request/3

It is written in Lua (ha!), so it requires RPM 4.16+ (for parametric dependency 
generators). It could be backported to Fedora 31/32 if rewritten as a Shell script.


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Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2020-08-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 7:52 pm, Chris Murphy  
wrote:

Between avahi and systemd-resolved, I'm not sure which one is more
dependable for blocking on. Or whether their maintainers would be on
board with such a criterion. At least for F33, Avahi is what we're
using on desktops for this. Both resolve and respond are disabled in
systemd-resolved so if it's better to do this with systemd-resolved,
then it probably needs a Fedora 34 feature proposal.


I don't know how to test mDNS, but it has been reported that it's 
broken in F33:


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1867830

That and the openconnect bug currently threaten the systemd-resolved 
change proposal.


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Fedora-IoT-33-20200829.0 compose check report

2020-08-29 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Soft failed openQA tests: 3/16 (x86_64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-IoT-33-20200828.0):

ID: 650863  Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650863
ID: 650864  Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650864
ID: 650868  Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_clevis
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650868

Passed openQA tests: 13/16 (x86_64)
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Fedora 33 compose report: 20200829.n.0 changes

2020-08-29 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-33-20200828.n.0
NEW: Fedora-33-20200829.n.0

= SUMMARY =
Added images:1
Dropped images:  4
Added packages:  0
Dropped packages:1
Upgraded packages:   0
Downgraded packages: 0

Size of added packages:  0 B
Size of dropped packages:11.96 KiB
Size of upgraded packages:   0 B
Size of downgraded packages: 0 B

Size change of upgraded packages:   0 B
Size change of downgraded packages: 0 B

= ADDED IMAGES =
Image: LXQt raw-xz armhfp
Path: Spins/armhfp/images/Fedora-LXQt-armhfp-33-20200829.n.0-sda.raw.xz

= DROPPED IMAGES =
Image: Cloud_Base raw-xz ppc64le
Path: Cloud/ppc64le/images/Fedora-Cloud-Base-33-20200828.n.0.ppc64le.raw.xz
Image: Cloud_Base qcow2 ppc64le
Path: Cloud/ppc64le/images/Fedora-Cloud-Base-33-20200828.n.0.ppc64le.qcow2
Image: Container_Base docker ppc64le
Path: 
Container/ppc64le/images/Fedora-Container-Base-33-20200828.n.0.ppc64le.tar.xz
Image: Cloud_Base vmdk ppc64le
Path: Cloud/ppc64le/images/Fedora-Cloud-Base-33-20200828.n.0.ppc64le.vmdk

= ADDED PACKAGES =

= DROPPED PACKAGES =
Package: php-phpunit-php-timer3-3.1.4-2.fc33
Summary: PHP Utility class for timing
RPMs:php-phpunit-php-timer3
Size:11.96 KiB


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Fedora-IoT-34-20200829.0 compose check report

2020-08-29 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images:

Iot dvd x86_64
Iot dvd aarch64

Failed openQA tests: 2/16 (x86_64)

New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-IoT-34-20200824.0):

ID: 650671  Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_clevis
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650671
ID: 650673  Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_rpmostree_overlay
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650673

Passed openQA tests: 14/16 (x86_64)

New passes (same test not passed in Fedora-IoT-34-20200824.0):

ID: 650666  Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650666
ID: 650667  Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650667
ID: 650670  Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso release_identification
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650670

Installed system changes in test x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso 
install_default@uefi: 
2 services(s) removed since previous compose: getty@tty6.service, 
zram-swap.service
System load changed from 0.05 to 0.31
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/646824#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650666#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso 
install_default_upload: 
2 services(s) removed since previous compose: getty@tty6.service, 
zram-swap.service
System load changed from 0.06 to 0.36
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/646810#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650667#downloads
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Fedora-Cloud-31-20200829.0 compose check report

2020-08-29 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Passed openQA tests: 7/7 (x86_64)
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Fedora-Cloud-32-20200829.0 compose check report

2020-08-29 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-32-20200828.0):

ID: 650649  Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650649

Passed openQA tests: 6/7 (x86_64)
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ocrmypdf license change

2020-08-29 Thread Elliott Sales de Andrade
Version 11 of ocrmypdf changes license from "LGPLv2 and CC-BY-SA and
Public Domain" to "MPL2.0 and MIT and BSD and CC-BY-SA and Public
Domain"

The main code switched licenses (to MPL2.0), and I found a few files
imported from elsewhere that had a different license (MIT/BSD).

It will be built for F33+ only.

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Re: Switching package to fragmented default configuration

2020-08-29 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 8/28/20 9:40 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

Please don't invent a new logic, especially the one that systemd does. This
makes it very difficult to figure out where in the world the configuration
file for a given program is. With systemd, sure, it's not so bad, as the


System defaults go in /usr/share/.  Admin overrides go in /etc.


command will tell you where the unit file is. There's no such command for, for
example, chronyd, httpd or any other program that itself isn't using such a
convoluted configuration system. Even systemd wouldn't work if you blew away /
etc.


It should.  If not, that's where they want to get to.
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Fedora-Rawhide-20200828.n.2 compose check report

2020-08-29 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check!
3 of 43 required tests failed
openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** 
below

Failed openQA tests: 11/181 (x86_64)

New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20200823.n.2):

ID: 650464  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso apps_startstop
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650464
ID: 650490  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_login
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650490
ID: 650498  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso release_identification
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650498
ID: 650518  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_desktop_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650518

Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20200823.n.2):

ID: 650434  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_role_deploy_database_server 
**GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650434
ID: 650438  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_database_client **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650438
ID: 650492  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650492
ID: 650524  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650524
ID: 650534  Test: x86_64 universal install_mirrorlist_graphical **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650534
ID: 650565  Test: x86_64 universal install_cyrillic_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650565
ID: 650592  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_realmd_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650592

Soft failed openQA tests: 25/181 (x86_64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20200823.n.2):

ID: 650415  Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650415
ID: 650416  Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650416
ID: 650455  Test: x86_64 Everything-boot-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650455
ID: 650456  Test: x86_64 Everything-boot-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650456
ID: 650460  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650460
ID: 650461  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650461
ID: 650496  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650496
ID: 650497  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650497
ID: 650507  Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650507
ID: 650514  Test: x86_64 universal install_kickstart_firewall_configured
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650514
ID: 650516  Test: x86_64 universal install_kickstart_user_creation
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650516
ID: 650519  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_desktop_encrypted_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650519
ID: 650525  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_desktop_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650525
ID: 650526  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_desktop_encrypted_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650526
ID: 650528  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_minimal_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650528
ID: 650529  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_minimal_uefi@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650529
ID: 650530  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650530
ID: 650532  Test: x86_64 universal install_kickstart_firewall_disabled
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650532
ID: 650535  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650535
ID: 650540  Test: x86_64 universal install_european_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650540
ID: 650550  Test: x86_64 universal install_arabic_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650550
ID: 650551  Test: x86_64 universal install_asian_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650551
ID: 650575  Test: x86_64 universal install_kickstart_hdd
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650575
ID: 650576  Test: x86_64 universal install_kickstart_nfs
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650576
ID: 650593  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_realmd_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/650593

Passed openQA tests: 145/181 (x86_64)

New passes (same test not passed in Fedora-Rawhide-20200823.n.2):

ID: 650418  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso