[Test-Announce] 2020-11-16 @ ** 16:00 ** UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2020-11-16 # Time: ** 16:00 ** UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! We didn't meet for a few weeks, and we have a couple of things up for discussion, so let's get

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

Hi On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 5:54 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 05:46:46PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > I think for a community distro, having it all in a single repo is > > technically better as well because part of the problem that was being > > solved by the merge was n

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 05:46:46PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I think for a community distro, having it all in a single repo is > technically better as well because part of the problem that was being > solved by the merge was not just the community Red Hat delineation but also > the issue of bu

Review requests: librttopo, libxslxwriter, virtualpg

Hi Next up on my todo list, updating spatialite-gui, which adds three dependencies which needed packaging: - librttopo: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1897734 - libxslxwriter: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1897735 - virtualpg: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 3:23 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > That reason was _mainly_ to erase the inside Red Hat, > community-around-the-edges distinction. That was a huge success and Fedora > wouldn't be interesting without that. But I think the _technical_ choice was > in retrospect a mistake. There

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 10:52:57PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: >> > I completely agree. This is one of the reasons I switched away from >> > ubuntu years ago (with its 4 (?) tiers of support + repos for its >> > packages ...). >> I agree, Fedora did the Core-Extras

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

Hi On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 5:23 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > That reason was _mainly_ to erase the inside Red Hat, > community-around-the-edges distinction. That was a huge success and Fedora > wouldn't be interesting without that. But I think the _technical_ choice > was > in retrospect a mistake.

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 10:52:57PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > I completely agree. This is one of the reasons I switched away from > > ubuntu years ago (with its 4 (?) tiers of support + repos for its > > packages ...). > I agree, Fedora did the Core-Extras Merge back in the day for a

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

Fabio Valentini wrote: > I completely agree. This is one of the reasons I switched away from > ubuntu years ago (with its 4 (?) tiers of support + repos for its > packages ...). I agree, Fedora did the Core-Extras Merge back in the day for a reason. Kevin Kofler __

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Kevin Kofler via devel [13/11/2020 00:52] : >> >> The one that keeps getting brought up is Tomcat, but I can tell you from >> my personal experience that the Fedora Tomcat package has always been >> working just fine (not only as a build dependency, but for its intended

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Every single package that failed to build from source and that people > refused to see orphaned and retired when it was pointed out that they are > in fact not really maintained ? As I have already mentioned more than once when the FTBFS policy has been discussed, a fa

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 04:17:14PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > ~~~ > > Provides: lightlymaintainedpackage(foo) > > ~~~ Thats actually not horrific. And it matches some of our other things like "Provides: bundled(foo)" which we use to mark non-ideal packaging situations. -- Matthew Miller

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 06:51:17AM -0700, Ken Dreyer wrote: > I'm not sure anyone's pretending. > > In my experience distros that spilt up into many repos add complexity (and > mistakes) on the releng side and a poor UX for the users. > > If we had labels in Pagure for the packages that you consi

Re: Highlights from the latest Copr release

Builds seem to be failing right in the middle due to "broken ssh connections" again and again now. Maybe builders switching over one by one and taking build down? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to de

Re: Highlights from the latest Copr release

On Friday, November 13, 2020 6:44:14 PM CET Iñaki Ucar wrote: > On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 18:13, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > - Can a build depend on more than one build ID? > > > > You should rather think about "batches" in this case, and each batch can > > only depend on one batch. > > > > Corner cas

Re: Btrfs question for Fedora 33 beta. How can I add nocow to /var

Fedora Everything Presentation from youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOv-EFdVoss Regards  Leslie Leslie Satenstein Montréal Québec, Canada On Sunday, October 25, 2020, 10:38:33 p.m. EDT, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 6:56 PM Leslie Satenstein via devel wrot

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers (see note about xinetd)

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:51:47 AM EST Petr Pisar wrote: > I believe it's unlikely that somobody will adopt xinetd. It was orphaned > because its maintainer orphaned all his packages. Xinetd is needed because it does the poly-instantiated network connection when Linux is used for MLS syst

Re: Fedora rawhide compose report: 20201112.n.0 changes

Hi, something weird is going on with the rawhide compose (thanks Vit for alerting me) On 13.11.20 00:44, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: > Package: nextcloud-20.0.1-3.fc34 > Old package: nextcloud-20.0.1-2.fc34 > Summary: Private file sync and share server > RPMs: nextcloud nextclo

Re: Highlights from the latest Copr release

On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 18:13, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > Thanks for questions! > > On Friday, November 13, 2020 5:50:46 PM CET Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 17:26, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > On Nov 13 2020, a new Copr release landed production. The list of u

Re: Highlights from the latest Copr release

Thanks for questions! On Friday, November 13, 2020 5:50:46 PM CET Iñaki Ucar wrote: > On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 17:26, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > On Nov 13 2020, a new Copr release landed production. The list of user > > visible > > changes is in the release notes document: > > >

Re: Highlights from the latest Copr release

On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 17:50, Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 17:26, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > On Nov 13 2020, a new Copr release landed production. The list of user > > visible > > changes is in the release notes document: > > > > https://docs.pagure.org/copr.cop

Re: Heads up: proj 7.2.0 + gdal 3.2.0

Thanks a lot for taking care of pyproj. Jos On 11/13/20 10:47 AM, Sandro Mani wrote: On 05.11.20 20:27, Sandro Mani wrote: On 05.11.20 12:36, Tom Hughes wrote: On 05/11/2020 11:24, Sandro Mani wrote: I'll be building proj-7.2.0 together with gdal-3.2.0 in rawhide shortly. I'll do a round

Re: Highlights from the latest Copr release

On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 17:26, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > Hello! > > On Nov 13 2020, a new Copr release landed production. The list of user > visible > changes is in the release notes document: > > https://docs.pagure.org/copr.copr/release-notes/2020-11-13.html Many thanks for the build batches fe

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 06:15:27PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:07:29AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: I still believe that this concept is inherently incompatible with the idea of a cooperative community distribution, and that bringing it up again and again with

Highlights from the latest Copr release

Hello! On Nov 13 2020, a new Copr release landed production. The list of user visible changes is in the release notes document: https://docs.pagure.org/copr.copr/release-notes/2020-11-13.html Happy building! Copr Team ___ devel mailing list -- devel

can't find the format file `latex.fmt' on Rawhide

Hi, Using latex in Docker on Rawhide gives an "I can't find the format file `latex.fmt'!" error. I have seen this before but I don't recall how to fix it. Mini reproducer using the following Dockerfile: FROM registry.fedoraproject.org/fedora:rawhide RUN dnf -y update RUN dnf -y install texlive RU

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

Dne 13. 11. 20 v 14:51 Ken Dreyer napsal(a): On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 4:15 PM Matthew Miller > wrote: On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:07:29AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > I still believe that this concept is inherently incompatible with the

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 at 18:53, Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Matthew Miller wrote: > > Well, except, it clearly *does* work that way. We have many > > lightly-maintained packages in practice. > > Do we really? Which are those packages? > > The one that keeps getti

Self Introduction: Michal Arbet (kevko)

Dear Fedora Developers, My name is Michal Arbet, I am 29 years old and working as Openstack Engineer in Ultimum Technologies company. I am already a member of a Debian community as Debian developer. Our company is participating in Openstack deployment, bug fixing, improving, testing and of course

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 2:52 PM Ken Dreyer wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 4:15 PM Matthew Miller wrote: >> >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:07:29AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: >> > I still believe that this concept is inherently incompatible with the idea >> > of a cooperative communi

Re: Proposed updates to the FESCo updates policy document

... and third version: https://mattia.fedorapeople.org/updates_policy_v3.svg https://mattia.fedorapeople.org/updates_policy_v3.png ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 4:15 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:07:29AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > I still believe that this concept is inherently incompatible with the > idea > > of a cooperative community distribution, and that bringing it up again > and > > again

Fedora-Cloud-31-20201113.0 compose check report

No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 7/7 (x86_64), 7/7 (aarch64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le..

Re: Conflicting build-ids in nekovm and haxe

> You could try adding this to one of the spec files > > export LDFLAGS="%{?__global_ldflags} --build-id=md5" I mean export LDFLAGS="%{?__global_ldflags} -Wl,--build-id=md5" ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send a

Re: Conflicting build-ids in nekovm and haxe

You could try adding this to one of the spec files export LDFLAGS="%{?__global_ldflags} --build-id=md5" ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: h

Re: Heads up: proj 7.2.0 + gdal 3.2.0

On 05.11.20 20:27, Sandro Mani wrote: On 05.11.20 12:36, Tom Hughes wrote: On 05/11/2020 11:24, Sandro Mani wrote: I'll be building proj-7.2.0 together with gdal-3.2.0 in rawhide shortly. I'll do a round of test builds in this copr [1], and then build everything (and rebuild dependent packa

Fwd: [Bug 1114146] Review Request: rubygem-ffi-yajl - Ruby FFI wrapper around YAJL 2.x

I wonder what is going to happen next with this review? Will the process continue with the "Submitter_not_responding" policy part [1]? If yes, then when? I actually don't know why the policy was not targeted on both parties at once, because I was certainly the last commenting in the review. BT

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 10:11:28AM +0100, Petr Pisar wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 09:58:22AM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:52:06AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > > Matthew Miller wrote: > > > > Well, except, it clearly *does* work that way. We have ma

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

* Kevin Kofler via devel [13/11/2020 00:52] : > > The one that keeps getting brought up is Tomcat, but I can tell you from my > personal experience that the Fedora Tomcat package has always been working > just fine (not only as a build dependency, but for its intended use as a web > application

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 09:58:22AM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:52:06AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Matthew Miller wrote: > > > Well, except, it clearly *does* work that way. We have many > > > lightly-maintained packages in practice. > > > > Do we rea

Re: Conflicting build-ids in nekovm and haxe

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 02:16:46AM -, Andy Li wrote: > Re. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1896901 > > Since haxe-4.1.3-4 and nekovm-2.3.0-4, both nekovm and haxe packages contains > "/usr/lib/.build-id/b0/aed4ddf2d45372bcc79d5e95d2834f5045c09c". > The nekovm one is a symlink to "

Re: Proposed updates to the FESCo updates policy document

Il 12/11/20 23:48, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 05:40:08PM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: >> Il 12/11/20 09:54, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek ha scritto: >>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 06:36:54PM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: Il 11/11/20 16:56, Kevin Fenzi ha scrit

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:52:06AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Matthew Miller wrote: > > Well, except, it clearly *does* work that way. We have many > > lightly-maintained packages in practice. > > Do we really? Which are those packages? Every single package that failed to build from s