Re: Mass spec file change: Adding BuildRequires: make

2020-12-11 Thread Tom Stellard
On 11/30/20 2:06 PM, Tom Stellard wrote: Hi, As part of the f34 change request[1] for removing make from the buildroot, I will be doing a mass update of packages[2] to add BuildRequires: make where it is needed. If you are a package maintainer and would prefer to update your packages on you

Fedora-Cloud-33-20201212.0 compose check report

2020-12-11 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64), 1/7 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-33-20201211.0): ID: 739284 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

python-pytest-randomly changing license from BSD to MIT

2020-12-11 Thread Dan Callaghan
Starting from version 3.5.0 the python-pytest-randomly package has changed license from BSD to MIT. I will build this update for rawhide shortly. -- Dan Callaghan ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to d

Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?

2020-12-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 06:39:52PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 12:21:02AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > It is still a form of a rolling release though, just one with branches. I > > think it was actually clear to most of the readers that CentOS Stream is > >

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 06:21:50PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > In the interest of me being lazy more successfully, can I glom my "change > > the menu" proposal onto this new Change you are spearheading? :) :) :) > Oi, oi! I have enough changes for this cycle. If you want to spearhead > this, I can

Re: Koji Offline - Infrastruture Status page says : all fine ?

2020-12-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 09:49:12PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > I think package signing is still broken? > > Someone reported on that nothing has been signed for the past 7 hours, > and I've certainly got one package which has remained unsigned for > several hours: > > https://koji.fedorapr

Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 12:21:02AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > It is still a form of a rolling release though, just one with branches. I > think it was actually clear to most of the readers that CentOS Stream is not > Rawhide directly (because then it would be Rawhide, not CentOS Strea

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 3:09 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 02:22:28PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > I'm not horribly opposed. I just don't want scope creep to mean we can't > > > make a pretty easy change. > > Well, we have to change it in both places anyway. :) > > Droppin

Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?

2020-12-11 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Gordon Messmer wrote: > The release announcement was confusing, in that it used "rolling > release" to describe something that doesn't resemble the common > definition of that term. > > CentOS Stream isn't a rolling release. It will have distinct major > releases. It just won't have point releas

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 12:40:15AM +0200, Nikolay Nikolov wrote: > So, how can I experience a corrupt install, due to media failure, > since I specifically run the media check to ensure this doesn't > happen, before I attempt an install? Just because I haven't > experienced it, since I always run t

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Nikolay Nikolov
On 12/12/20 12:20 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 12:15:07AM +0200, Nikolay Nikolov wrote: there's even less reason to skip it. Which really begs the question, why do we even assume the media test is only useful for DVD and not for USB flash? I gave those reasons in my in

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 12:15:07AM +0200, Nikolay Nikolov wrote: > there's even less reason to skip it. Which really begs the question, > why do we even assume the media test is only useful for DVD and not > for USB flash? I gave those reasons in my initial message? Have you experienced a spec

Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:49:23PM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: > The release announcement was confusing, in that it used "rolling > release" to describe something that doesn't resemble the common > definition of that term. Yeah, that was accidental — written in good faith by someone who doesn't l

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Nikolay Nikolov
On 12/11/20 8:55 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 11.12.2020 19:07, Matthew Miller wrote: I think since burning spinning optical media is no longer the normal way to do this, we should drop this and just go straight to booting (unless of course a key is hit to stop things and enter boot

Re: Koji Offline - Infrastruture Status page says : all fine ?

2020-12-11 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I think package signing is still broken? Someone reported on that nothing has been signed for the past 7 hours, and I've certainly got one package which has remained unsigned for several hours: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1657566 Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization

Re: Modularity documentation [was Re: The future of Fedora Server...] Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change))

2020-12-11 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:52 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > Thanks for filing this, and I'll highlight it for the modularity team's > attention. Thanks. I also filed https://pagure.io/fm-orchestrator/issue/1629 a while back. I think this could help users understand MBS a bit better. - Ken _

Re: Working recovery with locked root user (rescue.service)

2020-12-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020, at 5:56 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > I personally am gravitating toward the idea of not updating the > currently running OS (sometimes called transactional system updates) > where if we had a way to test the out-of-band updated OS, like in a > container or VM, We've been doin

Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?

2020-12-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/9/20 5:07 AM, Jaroslav Prokop wrote: Instead I would like LTS system that I comfortable with, which is from the RHEL ecosystem. ... If I understood the announcement, it would be a kind of CentOS streams is rolling release or a release with short release interval. The release announcem

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 02:22:28PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > I'm not horribly opposed. I just don't want scope creep to mean we can't > > make a pretty easy change. > Well, we have to change it in both places anyway. :) > Dropping isolinux just means we have one less menu to maintain. In the in

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 11.12.2020 20:18, Neal Gompa wrote: This would probably be easier if we dropped isolinux and used grub2 for BIOS ISO boot just like we do for UEFI ISO boot. +1 for this. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ devel mailing list

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Stop Shipping Individual Nodejs Library Packages (Self-Contained)

2020-12-11 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 09.12.2020 19:44, Ben Cotton wrote: The nodejs libraries have been approved to be bundled, and there is infrastructure in place for the bundling to work properly. And what about adding Provides: bundled(nodejs-foo) = version? There were many nodejs packages with backdoors in npm. That's why

Re: Pre-made live image with actual functioning persistent storage?

2020-12-11 Thread Josef Bacik
On 12/11/20 1:48 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: We're going to spend some of our remaining budget on a swag refresh, and as part of that, we're getting some shiny new USB sticks, and partly considering the recent discussion about making it easy for new users to try without committing, we're getting on

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 2:21 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 02:18:38PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > This would probably be easier if we dropped isolinux and used grub2 > > for BIOS ISO boot just like we do for UEFI ISO boot. > > I'm not horribly opposed. I just don't want sco

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 02:18:38PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > This would probably be easier if we dropped isolinux and used grub2 > for BIOS ISO boot just like we do for UEFI ISO boot. I'm not horribly opposed. I just don't want scope creep to mean we can't make a pretty easy change. -- Matthew

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 2:06 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 10:37:01AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Let's just go ahead and get people started faster. > > > > Could we maybe just bump it down to the 'troubleshooting' menu or > > whatever it's labelled there and have it

Re: Introduction

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 01:51:29PM -0500, LinuxGeek46 wrote: > Hello - my name is David Both and I want to introduce myself. Ankur > Sinha "FranciscoD" is mentoring me as I start with Fedora Fusion package > maintenance. Awesome, welcome! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader __

Re: Pre-made live image with actual functioning persistent storage?

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 10:57:30AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > su -c "livecd-iso-to-disk --home-size-mb 2048 > Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-34-1.1.iso /dev/sdX" My complication is: we need to have an image that has all of this pre-made to give to the vendor. If I do the above to a loopb

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 10:37:01AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Let's just go ahead and get people started faster. > > Could we maybe just bump it down to the 'troubleshooting' menu or > whatever it's labelled there and have it not be the default, rather > than remove it entirely? Sure, that

Re: Koji Offline - Infrastruture Status page says : all fine ?

2020-12-11 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 11.12.20 um 19:37 schrieb Kevin Fenzi: It's back up. There is some power work being done at the datacenter and one virthost (The one that has the koji database vm of course) lost power. :( I can't comment on the mirrors, those should be all over the world, so perhaps you are just hitting a s

Re: Pre-made live image with actual functioning persistent storage?

2020-12-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-12-11 at 13:48 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > We're going to spend some of our remaining budget on a swag refresh, and as > part of that, we're getting some shiny new USB sticks, and partly > considering the recent discussion about making it easy for new users to try > without committi

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 11.12.2020 19:07, Matthew Miller wrote: I think since burning spinning optical media is no longer the normal way to do this, we should drop this and just go straight to booting (unless of course a key is hit to stop things and enter boot parameters). USB flash drive can be broken too. I sugg

Re: Pre-made live image with actual functioning persistent storage?

2020-12-11 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 11.12.2020 19:48, Matthew Miller wrote: It has been approximately a decade since I made such an image. Does anyone have a recipe for creating one with persistent storage (and possibly a separate home filesystem, or however that should be set up on btrfs?) sudo livecd-iso-to-disk --efi --form

Introduction

2020-12-11 Thread LinuxGeek46
Hello - my name is David Both and I want to introduce myself. Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" is mentoring me as I start with Fedora Fusion package maintenance. I have been working with computers for just a bit over 50 years now, and almost 25 with Linux, most of whi

Pre-made live image with actual functioning persistent storage?

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
We're going to spend some of our remaining budget on a swag refresh, and as part of that, we're getting some shiny new USB sticks, and partly considering the recent discussion about making it easy for new users to try without committing, we're getting ones with decent speed and quality and room for

Mobility SIG meeting - 2020-12-14 16:30UTC

2020-12-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings everyone. I'd like to announce the next Mobility SIG meeting for next monday (2020-12-14) at 16:30UTC in #fedora-meeting. A tenative agenda: * introductions * status / plans on current remix * status / plans for next step remix with fedora kernel + patches and images bu

Re: Koji Offline - Infrastruture Status page says : all fine ?

2020-12-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 07:21:37PM +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote: > Am 11.12.20 um 19:16 schrieb Marius Schwarz: > > > > Hi, > > > > Koji has an Outtage. No Idea it it's planned or a failure. According to > > https://status.fedoraproject.org/ ist should work. > > > > > > Now it's marked down. Al

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-12-11 at 13:07 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > Right now, when you start Fedora live media to install Workstation or KDE or > etc., you get an ugly text prompt which defaults to doing a media test > (although it's not actually even clear from the highlighting that that's the > default).

Re: Koji Offline - Infrastruture Status page says : all fine ?

2020-12-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 at 13:18, Marius Schwarz wrote: > > Hi, > > Koji has an Outtage. No Idea it it's planned or a failure. According to > https://status.fedoraproject.org/ ist should work. > > The page also says that things are manually done to that page. We have to stop working on fires to chang

Re: Koji Offline - Infrastruture Status page says : all fine ?

2020-12-11 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 11.12.20 um 19:16 schrieb Marius Schwarz: Hi, Koji has an Outtage. No Idea it it's planned or a failure. According to https://status.fedoraproject.org/ ist should work. Now it's marked down. Also, AARCH64 Rawhide mirros are slow as snakes were in 1999. Best regards, Marius _

Koji Offline - Infrastruture Status page says : all fine ?

2020-12-11 Thread Marius Schwarz
Hi, Koji has an Outtage. No Idea it it's planned or a failure. According to https://status.fedoraproject.org/ ist should work. best regards, Marius ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@l

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 01:12:05PM -0500, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > I thought you could either bypass or cancel the installation media test. You can, but: 1) it's the default 2) skipping it isn't clearly obvious, especially if you've never used a pre-VGA DOS appliation (*) 3) just having the

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:08 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > Right now, when you start Fedora live media to install Workstation or KDE or > etc., you get an ugly text prompt which defaults to doing a media test > (although it's not actually even clear from the highlighting that that's the > default).

Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
Right now, when you start Fedora live media to install Workstation or KDE or etc., you get an ugly text prompt which defaults to doing a media test (although it's not actually even clear from the highlighting that that's the default). I think since burning spinning optical media is no longer the n

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Stop Shipping Individual Nodejs Library Packages (Self-Contained)

2020-12-11 Thread Troy Dawson
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 3:18 AM Till Maas wrote: > > Hi, > > this does not seem to be self-contained, since it seems to affect people > outside the SIG (it states that this is also affecting packages that are > not owned by the SIG). > > On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 01:44:30PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:

Re: Fedora 34 Change proposal: Boost 1.75 upgrade (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-11 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 10/12/20 19:21, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto: > > A self-managed side-tag: > * Easy to create, has random name > * Needs provenpackager or commit to all builds in tag to merge > FYI Starting from Bodhi 5.6.0 whoever owns (creates) the side-tag can push the update even if they don't have commit rights

Re: Fedora 34 Change proposal: Boost 1.75 upgrade (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-11 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/10/20 7:21 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 08:01:31AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: I wonder: is it necessary to request a tag, or would just self-managed side-tag be enough? A releng made side-tag: * has a specific name * requires releng ticket to create * re

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-11 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
20/12/3 03:39(e)an, Dusty Mabe igorleak idatzi zuen: I 100% would like to get to a point where we rebase to the latest Fedora major soon after release. As jlebon mentioned earlier this does mean working harder to get ahead of the curve by adopting a rawhide development stream (not exposed to

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Stop Shipping Individual Nodejs Library Packages (Self-Contained)

2020-12-11 Thread Till Maas
Hi, this does not seem to be self-contained, since it seems to affect people outside the SIG (it states that this is also affecting packages that are not owned by the SIG). On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 01:44:30PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NodejsLibrariesBundleBy

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-11 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:13:19AM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I don't think you can make branches completely descripive by themselves, > unless possibly you make them really long. > > flatpak_branch_where_stable_flatpaks_are_made_from That it is about flatpaks is already described in the

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Stop Shipping Individual Nodejs Library Packages (Self-Contained)

2020-12-11 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Thursday, 10 December 2020 at 17:55, Troy Dawson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 2:07 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: > > On Thursday, 10 December 2020 at 00:49, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > On 12/9/20 7:44 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NodejsLibr

Fedora-Cloud-32-20201211.0 compose check report

2020-12-11 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64), 1/7 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-32-20201204.0): ID: 738864 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Re: f33: systemd-resolved hang on ip query

2020-12-11 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 12/10/20 7:16 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Wed, 9 Dec 2020, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: This again leads to a required architecture change. We really need to have a captive portal namespace, that handles all of this while the applications still consider the network is down. Once the captive portal

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-11 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
On src.fp.o, could we inject a custom message when someone trys to fetch/clone a master branch via pagure-dist-git ? Something like "this branch is deprecated, more info on https://foo.bar"; 20/12/11 08:15(e)an, Pierre-Yves Chibon igorleak idatzi zuen: On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:29:12AM -0800,