This is for F35 -> F37 ...
Error:
Problem 1: package compat-ffmpeg28-2.8.20-1.fc35.x86_64 requires
libvpx.so.6()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed
- libvpx-1.10.0-2.fc35.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade repository
- problem with installed package
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 3:56 PM Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 3:36 PM Ron Olson wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately I can’t get that rhel+epel8 to work, as it complains “ERROR:
> > /etc/pki/entitlement is not a directory is subscription-manager
> > installed?”. I went through all the
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2119130
Fedora Update System changed:
What|Removed |Added
Fixed In Version|perl-5.36.0-492.fc38|perl-5.36.0-492.fc38
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 4:13 AM Florian Weimer wrote:
>
> We are working on this and hope to have an update soon.
>
Well, we just released the Beta and people have noticed that this is
still broken. Do we have an ETA on a fix? Because this is going to be
a major black eye for *us* if it stays
The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing
gfal2-util-1.8.0-1.el7
netdata-1.36.1-1.el7
tio-2.0-1.el7
Details about builds:
gfal2-util-1.8.0-1.el7
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2102581
Fedora Update System changed:
What|Removed |Added
Status|ON_QA |CLOSED
Resolution|---
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2099976
Bug 2099976 depends on bug 2102581, which changed state.
Bug 2102581 Summary: Add perl-SQL-Abstract to EPEL9
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2102581
What|Removed |Added
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2102581
Bug 2102581 depends on bug 2102597, which changed state.
Bug 2102597 Summary: Add perl-DBIx-Class to EPEL 9
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2102597
What|Removed |Added
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2102597
Fedora Update System changed:
What|Removed |Added
Fixed In Version||perl-DBIx-Class-0.082843-3.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 7:06 PM Thomas Link via devel
wrote:
>
> Error:
> Problem 1: package gala-6.3.1-3.fc36.x86_64 requires
> libgnome-desktop-3.so.19()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed
> Problem 2: package gala-libs-6.3.1-3.fc36.x86_64 requires
>
On Tue, 2022-09-13 at 15:38 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 3:04 PM Tomas Hrcka wrote:
> >
> > Fedora Linux 37 Beta Released
> > --
> >
> > The Fedora Project is pleased to announce the immediate availability
> > of Fedora Linux 37
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2126164
--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System ---
FEDORA-2022-738dfe039a has been pushed to the Fedora 37 testing repository.
Soon you'll be able to install the update with the following command:
`sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2124002
--- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System ---
FEDORA-2022-738dfe039a has been pushed to the Fedora 37 testing repository.
Soon you'll be able to install the update with the following command:
`sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing
On Fri, 2022-09-02 at 08:37 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >
> > Now, because I glued openQA to the critpath because it was handy, there
> > are two sets of consequences to a package being in critical path:
> >
> > 1. Tighter Bodhi requirements
> > 2. openQA tests are run, and
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123496
Fedora Update System changed:
What|Removed |Added
Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Fixed In
I have a packaging question -
One of the packages I maintain, nextcloud-client, fails to execute in
EPEL-9. It is being blocked by SELinux policy.
getsebool selinuxuser_execmod is off in EL9.
Is it even allowed to change SELinux rule in, for example, %post?
I suspect the correct way to do
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123834
Fedora Update System changed:
What|Removed |Added
Fixed In Version|perl-Log-Log4perl-1.56-1.fc |perl-Log-Log4perl-1.56-1.fc
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2124241
Fedora Update System changed:
What|Removed |Added
Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Status|ON_QA
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2115214
Fedora Update System changed:
What|Removed |Added
Fixed In Version||perl-Database-DumpTruck-1.2
On 9/9/22 06:54, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 10:43 AM Vratislav Podzimek
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> I got a new Dell XPS laptop with the "amazing" [1] Intel MIPI IPU6
>> webcam. There are upstream repos with drivers [2] and user-space stuff
>> and Ubuntu [3] and Arch [4] have
On Tue, 2022-09-06 at 16:14 -0500, Jonathan Wright via devel wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 3:52 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel <
> devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> > On 06/09/2022 19:49, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > > Of course, hardware authenticators would be even more secure, and
> > >
On 9/6/22 17:29, Alex Perez wrote:
> Jonathan,
>
> Your perspective on costs seems extremely developed-country-centric, and
> I'd like to suggest you check your (financial) privilege. I don't know
> where you're from; I'm from the US, but I am well aware of the reality
> of many open source
On 9/13/22 12:07, Scott Beamer wrote:
# dnf --releasever=37 --setopt=module_platform_id=platform:f37
--enablerepo=updates-testing \ $(rpm -q fedora-repos-modular >/dev/null && echo
--enablerepo=updates-testing-modular) --assumeno distro-sync
bash: --enablerepo=updates-testing-modular: command
On 9/12/22 22:59, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
Do you want to make Fedora 37 better? Please spend 1 minute of your
time and try to run:
I have updated 5 native systems running Fedora 36 (all running Xfce) to
Fedora 37 as follows:
(1) ASUS G750JS 1 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4700HQ CPU @ 2.40GHz
Everything looks good for me. I get notices about packages getting replaced:
evince x86_64
43~alpha-4.fc37
fedora2.0 M
Error:
Problem 1: package flatpak-1.12.7-5.fc36.x86_64 requires
flatpak-session-helper(x86-64) = 1.12.7-5.fc36, but none of the providers can
be installed
- flatpak-session-helper-1.12.7-5.fc36.x86_64 does not belong to a
distupgrade repository
- problem with installed package
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 1:35 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> * setup a tracking bug to track the issues, so we can make a more
> informed decision before f38 beta.
This should be the tracker in the Changes Tracking component. Normally
those are created after a proposal is approved by FESCo, but I can
>From the audience:
In the past, Yubico has been generous in giving keys to packagers.
If they cannot give keys to all, then maybe we can get a few for those who
need them.
Some of us already have keys.
The barrier to becoming a packager is already high (that is good)
But we should decrease
> # dnf --releasever=37 --setopt=module_platform_id=platform:f37
> --enablerepo=updates-testing \ $(rpm -q fedora-repos-modular >/dev/null &&
> echo
> --enablerepo=updates-testing-modular) --assumeno distro-sync
> bash: --enablerepo=updates-testing-modular: command not found...
> No such command:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 3:36 PM Ron Olson wrote:
>
> Unfortunately I can’t get that rhel+epel8 to work, as it complains “ERROR:
> /etc/pki/entitlement is not a directory is subscription-manager installed?”.
> I went through all the other epel-8 flavors and they all work. I added this
> to the
Unfortunately I can’t get that rhel+epel8 to work, as it complains
“ERROR: /etc/pki/entitlement is not a directory is
subscription-manager installed?”. I went through all the other epel-8
flavors and they _all_ work. I added this to the spec file as a test:
%if 0%{?rhel} && 0%{?rhel} == 8
bcotton wrote:
> [...]
> ## Beta Release Highlights
> [...]
> # RPM content is now signed with IMA signatures
How can one observe this? Even with rpm-plugin-ima installed, steps in:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Signed_RPM_Contents#How_To_Test
produce no output for any of the files
On 9/5/22 16:54, Maxwell G via devel wrote:
> On Monday, September 5, 2022 Peter Robinson wrote:
>> it would probably be easier to join and become a packager by
>> packaging a random leaf package no one would use, then as a packager
>> pick up an random orphaned package that's in the core distro
# dnf --releasever=37 --setopt=module_platform_id=platform:f37
--enablerepo=updates-testing \ $(rpm -q fedora-repos-modular >/dev/null && echo
--enablerepo=updates-testing-modular) --assumeno distro-sync
bash: --enablerepo=updates-testing-modular: command not found...
No such command: . Please
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 05:01:57PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Kevin Fenzi:
>
> > I just edited the f38 tag at Mon Aug 22 08:29:51 PM UTC 2022 to switch
> > to nspawn.
> >
> > If you have detected a issue that seems like it might be related to this
> > change, please file a releng ticket
I get the following problems:
Problem 1: package rpmfusion-nonfree-release-36-1.noarch requires
system-release(36), but none of the providers can be installed
- fedora-release-workstation-36-18.noarch does not belong to a distupgrade
repository
- problem with installed package
I'd like to piggy-back - is there a Fedora well-supported board that can
use the Pi-targeted hats? I stayed away from the Pi for a long while,
because of the support problems, but it just seems like there's so much
that's just made for Pis.
--
Chris Adams
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2022-09-13)
===
Meeting started by sgallagh at 17:00:13 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2022-09-13/fesco.2022-09-13-17.00.log.html
.
Meeting summary
On 9/12/22 08:59, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
Do you want to make Fedora 37 better? Please spend 1 minute of your
time and try to run:
# Run this only if you use default Fedora modules
# next time you run any DNF command default modules will be enabled again
sudo dnf module reset '*'
dnf
> Do you want to make Fedora 37 better? Please spend 1 minute of your time and
> try to run:
Hi. I've got the following errors:
> Error:
> Problem 1: package openjfx-devel-3:11.0.9.2-6.fc35.x86_64 requires
openjfx(x86-64) = 3:11.0.9.2-6.fc35, but none of the providers can be
installed
> -
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2126525
Bug ID: 2126525
Summary: perl-Starman-0.4016 is available
Product: Fedora
Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
Component: perl-Starman
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
no any problem on this laptop.
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How about this:
Drop the term 'jump scare' entirely. IMHO it just sounds bad.
Rework the change so it's basically planning on making this change in
f38.
Before f38 beta freeze, change owners/fesco looks at the state of things
and decides if it can remain on in f38 and if not, it gets reverted
ANTLR4 4.11.1 has been released. It includes an soname bump in the
C++ runtime, and a non-backwards compatible change in the Java
runtime. I plan to update next week. I will rebuild all dependent
packages, unless the maintainers prefer to manage the rebuilds
themselves. The packages to be
I found issues with evolution-rss dependencies. Will report it to them. [root@introdesk ~]# dnf --releasever=37 --setopt=module_platform_id=platform:f37 --enablerepo=updates-testing $(rpm -q fedora-repos-modular >/dev/null && echo --enablerepo=updates-testing-modular) --assumeno distro-syncFedora
Error:
Problem 1: package gala-6.3.1-3.fc36.x86_64 requires
libgnome-desktop-3.so.19()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed
- gnome-desktop3-42.4-1.fc36.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade
repository
- problem with installed package gala-6.3.1-3.fc36.x86_64
Problem 2:
$ sudo dnf --releasever=37 --setopt=module_platform_id=platform:f37
--enablerepo=updates-testing $(rpm -q fedora-repos-modular >/dev/null && echo
--enablerepo=updates-testing-modular) --assumeno distro-sync
Last metadata expiration check: 0:08:47 ago on Tue 13 Sep 2022 19:34:54.
Error:
Problem
sudo dnf - 1 ST 3 rawhide module_platform_id=platform:f37
--enablerepo=updates-testing $(rpm -q fedora-repos-modular >/dev/null &&
echo --enablerepo=updates-testing-modular) --assumeno distro-sync
Copr repo for gnome-info-collect owned by vstan 484 B/s | 1.3 kB 00:02
Fedora 37 -
> Do you want to make Fedora 37 better? Please spend 1 minute of your time and
> try to run:
>
> # Run this only if you use default Fedora modules
What do you mean by "default modules"?
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On Mon, 2022-09-12 at 14:59 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Do you want to make Fedora 37 better? Please spend 1 minute of your
> time and try to run:
>
> # Run this only if you use default Fedora modules
> # next time you run any DNF command default modules will be enabled
> again
> sudo dnf
What do you mean by "default modules"?
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Error:
Problem: package nautilus-image-converter-0.3.1-0.22.git430afce31.fc35.x86_64
requires libnautilus-extension.so.1()(64bit), but none of the providers can be
installed
- nautilus-extensions-42.2-1.fc36.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade
repository
- problem with installed
* Kevin Fenzi:
> I just edited the f38 tag at Mon Aug 22 08:29:51 PM UTC 2022 to switch
> to nspawn.
>
> If you have detected a issue that seems like it might be related to this
> change, please file a releng ticket and we will dig into it.
Thanks, the glibc (nested) container tests started
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 3:34 PM Miro Hrončok wrote:
...
> I don't like the EOL-Obsolte within one Fedora release. Things like this
> should
> only change on release boundary. Other than that it sounds good, but consider
> that packages requiring /usr/bin/node might pick any of the versions we
The Fedora Project is pleased to announce the immediate availability
of Fedora Linux 37 Beta, the next step towards our planned Fedora
Linux 37 release at the end of October.
Download the prerelease from our Get Fedora site:
* Get Fedora 37 Beta Workstation:
The Fedora Project is pleased to announce the immediate availability
of Fedora Linux 37 Beta, the next step towards our planned Fedora
Linux 37 release at the end of October.
Download the prerelease from our Get Fedora site:
* Get Fedora 37 Beta Workstation:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 3:04 PM Tomas Hrcka wrote:
>
> Fedora Linux 37 Beta Released
> --
>
> The Fedora Project is pleased to announce the immediate availability
> of Fedora Linux 37 Beta, the next step towards our planned Fedora Linux 37
> release
> at
> My rpi based home base server died rpi NAS keep running:).
> I would very like to replace it with little bit better thing - in work, I
> have https://softiron.com/blog/news_20160624/ , unluckily, It seems that
> similar machines - I can call it aarch64 desktop, somehow died off.
>
> Does
Dear all,
You are kindly invited to the meeting:
Fedora Source-git SIG on 2022-09-14 from 14:30:00 to 15:30:00 GMT
At meet.google.com/mic-otnv-kse
The meeting will be about:
Meeting of the Fedora source-git SIG
Agenda:
https://pagure.io/fedora-source-git/sig/issues?tags=meeting=Open
SIG
Fedora Linux 37 Beta was released today [1]. Our Fedora CoreOS `next` stream
has been migrated to Fedora Linux 37 content. Existing nodes on the `next`
stream will update as normal over the following days.
The Fedora Project accepted changes for Fedora 37 are at [2] and the Fedora
CoreOS analysis
Peter is the expert, but I'd look for something on the Fedora IoT HW list:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/iot/reference-platforms/#_aarch64_arm64_architecture
The SolidRun i.MX8 devices could be a good call:
https://shop.solid-run.com/?filter_som-com-family=nxp-i-mx8m-plus
The Pine64 stuff
> Am 13.09.2022 um 15:38 schrieb Jiri Vanek :
>
> Hello!
>
> My rpi based home base server died rpi NAS keep running:).
> I would very like to replace it with little bit better thing - in work, I
> have https://softiron.com/blog/news_20160624/ , unluckily, It seems that
> similar machines -
Fedora Linux 37 Beta Released
--
The Fedora Project is pleased to announce the immediate availability
of Fedora Linux 37 Beta, the next step towards our planned Fedora Linux 37
release
at the end of October.
Download the prerelease from our Get Fedora
qt6 is being updated from 6.2.3 to 6.3.1 in epel9.[1]
There is no soname bump, and everything should be backward compatible.
Why announce it?
Our KDE Plasma Desktop policy is to do a major update only once a year in
the main epel repositories.
qt6 is currently NOT part of the KDE Plasma Desktop.
Hello!
My rpi based home base server died rpi NAS keep running:).
I would very like to replace it with little bit better thing - in work, I have
https://softiron.com/blog/news_20160624/ , unluckily, It seems that similar
machines - I can call it aarch64 desktop, somehow died off.
Does
Thanks Simon, TIL that I can log into Matrix with my FAS account.
I'm also glad to know that it's not yet smooth, so I will continue to use
Element with my less elegant Matrix ID.
-Blaise
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 2:40 AM Simon de Vlieger wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2022, at 2:28 PM, Kevin P.
I've just add --alowerasing for protonvpn...
LANG=C sudo dnf --releasever=37 --setopt=module_platform_id=platform:f37
--enablerepo=updates-testing $(rpm -q fedora-repos-modular >/dev/null && echo
--enablerepo=updates-testing-modular) --assumeno distro-sync --allowerasing;
Installing weak
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event
for Fedora 37 Branched 20220913.n.0. Please help run some tests for this
nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly
release validation testing, see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2071588
Jitka Plesnikova changed:
What|Removed |Added
Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Fixed In Version|
On 13/09/2022 12:15, Mikel Olasagasti wrote:
How should I proceed?
It should be added to fedora-obsolete-packages.
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What|Removed |Added
Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Fixed In Version|
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20220912.n.0
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20220913.n.0
= SUMMARY =
Added images:0
Dropped images: 0
Added packages: 3
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages: 65
Downgraded packages: 0
Size of added packages: 1.02 MiB
Size of dropped packages:0 B
On 13. 09. 22 12:15, Mikel Olasagasti wrote:
Hau idatzi du Miroslav Suchý (msu...@redhat.com) erabiltzaileak (2022
ira. 12, al. (15:00)):
Do you want to make Fedora 37 better? Please spend 1 minute of your time and
try to run:
# Run this only if you use default Fedora modules
# next time you
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 09:12:49AM +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:24:34PM -0500, Maxwell G via devel wrote:
> > On Mon Sep 12, 2022 at 11:29 AM CDT, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Would a proven packager be willing to take care of it? The new flac is
>
Hau idatzi du Miroslav Suchý (msu...@redhat.com) erabiltzaileak (2022
ira. 12, al. (15:00)):
>
> Do you want to make Fedora 37 better? Please spend 1 minute of your time and
> try to run:
>
> # Run this only if you use default Fedora modules
> # next time you run any DNF command default modules
In a F36 toolbox:
Transaction Summary
Install 21 Packages
Upgrade588 Packages
Downgrade1 Package
Total download size: 438 M
Operation aborted.
Wants to downgrade grubby. So no issues.
I cannot run this on my actual system because the mirrors I use (which
I hard-coded for bandwidth)
> dnf --releasever=37 --setopt=module_platform_id=platform:f37 \
> --enablerepo=updates-testing \
> $(rpm -q fedora-repos-modular >/dev/null && echo
> --enablerepo=updates-testing-modular) \
> --assumeno distro-sync
Without modules enabled, works fine here:
dnf --releasever=37
W dniu 12.09.2022 o 14:59, Miroslav Suchý pisze:
Do you want to make Fedora 37 better? Please spend 1 minute of your time
and try to run:
# Run this only if you use default Fedora modules
# next time you run any DNF command default modules will be enabled again
sudo dnf module reset '*'
dnf
Hiya,
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 13:05:31 -0400, Ben Beasley wrote:
> The orjson package itself is written in Rust, so it’s probably best
> just to do without orjson for the python-cattrs tests if you’re not
> inclined to go down that rabbit hole.
>
> That said, it would be great to have a
Hello Sergey,
Welcome aboard.
вт, 13 сент. 2022 г. в 09:25, Sergey Mende :
>
> Hello, everybody.
>
> My name is Sergey Mende and I am from Saint-Petersburg, Russia. I am a
> software engineer for 35 years, presently retired. I have been working for
> several companies during my working life
Hello, everybody.
My name is Sergey Mende and I am from Saint-Petersburg, Russia. I am a software
engineer for 35 years, presently retired. I have been working for several
companies during my working life mostly in embedded software development area,
the most famous is EMC (presently Dell).
Hi,
I've just updated the Fedora change [1] accordingly.
Feel free to take another look.
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MinizipRenaming
Lukas
On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 11:40 AM Lukas Javorsky wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Thank you so much for the feedback.
>
> Let's wrap it up...
>
> 1)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2126164
--- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System ---
FEDORA-2022-738dfe039a has been submitted as an update to Fedora 37.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-738dfe039a
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--- Comment #1 from Fedora Update System ---
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On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:24:34PM -0500, Maxwell G via devel wrote:
> On Mon Sep 12, 2022 at 11:29 AM CDT, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> > >
> > > Would a proven packager be willing to take care of it? The new flac is
> > > now built in --target=f38-build-side-58420. libsndfile and audiofile
>
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2126027
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Fixed In Version||perl-Type-Tiny-1.016010-1.f
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2126164
Jitka Plesnikova changed:
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Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED
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On Mon, Sep 12, 2022, at 2:28 PM, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
> This is an area of active development by the Matrix team; joining
> *large* rooms (either large numbers of participants, large numbers of
> messages, or both) is currently slow because it's a synchronous
> operation. Your client waits
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022, at 12:44 PM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> That unfortunately seems typical -- I'm joining the space from a
> different server too (Element One, ironically *also* hosted by EMS).
> Joining from a different homeserver seems to be a bit unreliable no
> matter which two
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