Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-18 Thread Nathan Scott
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 2:29 PM Maxwell G  wrote:
> On Fri Apr 19, 2024 at 14:23 +1000, Nathan Scott wrote:
>
> The package does not have any Obsoletes, so nothing should happen unless
> users take explicit action to install valkey.
>

Yes, that's my point - if someone installs valkey, their redis
installation is essentially trashed.

I'd say "fair enough" if this was rawhide and we're working on the
transition still, but this is stable Fedora, EPEL and user's data.

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Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-18 Thread Maxwell G
On Fri Apr 19, 2024 at 14:23 +1000, Nathan Scott wrote:
> Hi Neal,
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 1:02 PM Neal Gompa  wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 10:43 PM Nathan Scott  wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 12:29 PM Neal Gompa  wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > > retaining Redis will just hurt us in the long term.
> > >
> > > Noone is saying we should retain Redis.  I'm advocating for a more
> > > appropriate transition that is respectful of the work and expertise the
> > > existing package maintainers bring.
> > >
> > > I think f41 is appropriate and possible, but "more haste, less speed"
> > > is the way to get there, with minimal breakage to Fedora and users.
> > >
> >
> > From my perspective, I don't see any breakage happening. We also
> > haven't *done* anything yet.
> >
>
> Sooo, about that... :)   I see there is a valkey build winging its way
> toward f39 and f38 now:
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=valkey
>
> If someone has an active redis installation on those systems and
> install that - aren't they in for a bit of a surprise?  Correct me if I'm
> wrong, but this will replace redis - leaving /var/lib/redis with their
> current data, and start a new "redis-server" (aka "valkey-server")
> process writing into a new, empty rdb file below /var/lib/valkey, no?
> If so, how do they reconcile those split rdb files?
>
> Let's slow down a bit, it's not so urgent that we risk peoples data.

The package does not have any Obsoletes, so nothing should happen unless
users take explicit action to install valkey.
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Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-18 Thread Nathan Scott
Hi Neal,

On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 1:02 PM Neal Gompa  wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 10:43 PM Nathan Scott  wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 12:29 PM Neal Gompa  wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > retaining Redis will just hurt us in the long term.
> >
> > Noone is saying we should retain Redis.  I'm advocating for a more
> > appropriate transition that is respectful of the work and expertise the
> > existing package maintainers bring.
> >
> > I think f41 is appropriate and possible, but "more haste, less speed"
> > is the way to get there, with minimal breakage to Fedora and users.
> >
>
> From my perspective, I don't see any breakage happening. We also
> haven't *done* anything yet.
>

Sooo, about that... :)   I see there is a valkey build winging its way
toward f39 and f38 now:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=valkey

If someone has an active redis installation on those systems and
install that - aren't they in for a bit of a surprise?  Correct me if I'm
wrong, but this will replace redis - leaving /var/lib/redis with their
current data, and start a new "redis-server" (aka "valkey-server")
process writing into a new, empty rdb file below /var/lib/valkey, no?
If so, how do they reconcile those split rdb files?

Let's slow down a bit, it's not so urgent that we risk peoples data.

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[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing report

2024-04-18 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 8 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
   4  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2024-762aef7cb1   
chromium-123.0.6312.122-1.el8
   1  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2024-99cf4e74b7   
putty-0.81-1.el8


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing

ansible-collection-awx-awx-24.2.0-1.el8
libabigail-2.5-1.el8
the_foundation-1.8.1-4.el8
uwsgi-2.0.25.1-1.el8

Details about builds:



 ansible-collection-awx-awx-24.2.0-1.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2024-8e214ec683)
 Ansible modules and plugins for working with AWX

Update Information:

Update to 24.2.0-1

ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 17 2024 Andrew Heath  
- 24.2.0-1
- Update to 24.2.0




 libabigail-2.5-1.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2024-21389dba7c)
 Set of ABI analysis tools

Update Information:

Update to upstream 2.5 tarball

ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 17 2024 Dodji Seketeli  - 2.5-1
- Update to upstream 2.5 tarball
- Drop patches
  0001-Bug-31045-Don-t-try-setting-translation-unit-for-uni.patch
  0002-suppression-Add-has_strict_flexible_array_data_membe.patch 
  0003-Replace-deprecated-mock-with-unittest.mock.patch
- Package libabigail.so.4 rather than the previous libabigail.so.3.
- Disable abidb as it requires python 3.9
- Better handle error handling when tests fails.




 the_foundation-1.8.1-4.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2024-483555335a)
 Opinionated C11 library for low-level functionality

Update Information:

Upstream changelog:
https://codeberg.org/skyjake/the_Foundation/src/branch/main/CHANGES.md

ChangeLog:

* Wed Apr 17 2024 Michel Lind 
- Update to 1.8.1 (rhbz#2274997)
* Sat Jan 27 2024 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
1.7.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_40_Mass_Rebuild

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #2274997 - the_foundation-1.8.1 is available
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2274997




 uwsgi-2.0.25.1-1.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2024-be4ebde20e)
 Fast, self-healing, application container server

Update Information:

Update to 2.0.25.1, drop merged patches

ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 16 2024 Ralf Ertzinger  - 2.0.25.1-1
- Update to 2.0.25.1, drop merged patches
- Use github.com as source for the main tarball
- Do not build for i686 any more
* Tue Mar 19 2024 Dominik Mierzejewski  - 2.0.24-2
- Rebuilt for gloox-1.0.28

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #2275174 - uwsgi-2.0.25.1 is available
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2275174


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[Bug 2257225] perl-Clipboard: clipbrowse command execution with multi-line clipboard text including "| sh" [fedora-all]

2024-04-18 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2257225

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Fixed In Version|perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.fc41  |perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.fc41
   ||perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.fc39



--- Comment #8 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2024-43a0920f12 (perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.fc39) has been pushed to the
Fedora 39 stable repository.
If problem still persists, please make note of it in this bug report.


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[Bug 2257224] perl-Clipboard: clipbrowse command execution with multi-line clipboard text including "| sh" [epel-all]

2024-04-18 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2257224

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Fixed In Version|perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.fc41  |perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.fc41
   |perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.el9   |perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.el9
   |perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.el7   |perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.el7
   ||perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.el8



--- Comment #12 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2024-f060b59d26 (perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.el8) has been pushed to the
Fedora EPEL 8 stable repository.
If problem still persists, please make note of it in this bug report.


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[Bug 2257224] perl-Clipboard: clipbrowse command execution with multi-line clipboard text including "| sh" [epel-all]

2024-04-18 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2257224

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Fixed In Version|perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.fc41  |perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.fc41
   |perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.el9   |perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.el9
   ||perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.el7



--- Comment #11 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2024-a8b1cd8e52 (perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.el7) has been pushed to the
Fedora EPEL 7 stable repository.
If problem still persists, please make note of it in this bug report.


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[Bug 2257224] perl-Clipboard: clipbrowse command execution with multi-line clipboard text including "| sh" [epel-all]

2024-04-18 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2257224

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Fixed In Version|perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.fc41  |perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.fc41
   ||perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.el9



--- Comment #10 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2024-6ebc36e81d (perl-Clipboard-0.29-1.el9) has been pushed to the
Fedora EPEL 9 stable repository.
If problem still persists, please make note of it in this bug report.


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[EPEL-devel] Re: RFC: Proposing incompatible upgrade of python-asgiref from 3.4.1 to 3.7.2

2024-04-18 Thread Michel Lind

Hi all,

On 4/11/24 16:25, Michel Lind wrote:

Dear all,

Django 4.2 (the only currently supported LTS series) requires asgiref >=
3.6, so I would like to propose updating python-asgiref in EPEL 9 at
least to 3.6.0, but ideally to 3.8.1 for future proofing.

The affected packages (maintainers bcc:ed) are python-django3 (which I
maintain, and has just reached EOL) and python-opentelemetry

❯ fedrq whatrequires 'python3dist(asgiref)' -b epel9
python-django3-3.2.20-3.el9.src
python-opentelemetry-1.12.0-8.el9.src

❯ fedrq pkgs --src -P python-django3 -F requires -b epel9 | grep asgi
python3dist(asgiref) >= 3.3.2
(python3dist(asgiref) < 4~~ with python3dist(asgiref) >= 3.3.2)

❯ fedrq pkgs --src -P python-opentelemetry -F requires -b epel9 | grep asgi
(python3dist(asgiref) >= 3 with python3dist(asgiref) < 4)


It's been a week, the maintainers of the specific packages have granted their
approval and the Steering Committee has been consulted.

Since opentelemetry and django3 builds fine with asgiref 3.7.2 from Fedora, I
have now built it and published an update:

https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2024-d56e78a735

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora Linux 40 Final is GO Need to fix up for good grub.cfg Cant install Workstation and KDE on same system.

2024-04-18 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 4/18/24 14:09, Leslie Satenstein via devel wrote:
Even when the two distros are on separate drives.  I have tested all 
combinations, and

Fedora40 grub2-mkconfig  does not allow two Fedora40's on the same system.

Try it. Put F40Workstation on one drive and F40KDE on a second drive


It doesn't matter if they're on separate drives.  They are still on the 
same system and that's not a supported configuration.

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora Linux 40 Final is GO Need to fix up for good grub.cfg Cant install Workstation and KDE on same system.

2024-04-18 Thread Leslie Satenstein via devel
Even when the two distros are on separate drives.  I have tested all 
combinations, and 
Fedora40 grub2-mkconfig  does not allow two Fedora40's on the same system.
Try it. Put F40Workstation on one drive and F40KDE on a second drive 


Leslie Satenstein
 

On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 04:45:35 p.m. EDT, Samuel Sieb 
 wrote:  
 
 On 4/18/24 12:42, Leslie Satenstein via devel wrote:
> With my testing, I could not install  one copy of Fedora40gnome and then 
> on the same system the copy of Fedora40KDE.
> 
> Whatever came second, has a signature for grub2-mkconfig, that causes 
> the first F40 menuentrys to be replaced by the latter.  My computer bios 
> shows the same duplicates.
> 
> But I am OK with F39 and F40 being on the same drive.

Please don't massively cross-post like this.  Having multiple installs 
of Fedora on the same system is not a "supported" configuration.  You're 
kind of on your own for that.
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora Linux 40 Final is GO Need to fix up for good grub.cfg Cant install Workstation and KDE on same system.

2024-04-18 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 4/18/24 12:42, Leslie Satenstein via devel wrote:
With my testing, I could not install  one copy of Fedora40gnome and then 
on the same system the copy of Fedora40KDE.


Whatever came second, has a signature for grub2-mkconfig, that causes 
the first F40 menuentrys to be replaced by the latter.  My computer bios 
shows the same duplicates.


But I am OK with F39 and F40 being on the same drive.


Please don't massively cross-post like this.  Having multiple installs 
of Fedora on the same system is not a "supported" configuration.  You're 
kind of on your own for that.

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Re: F41 Change Proposal - Reproducible Package Builds (System-Wide)

2024-04-18 Thread Robert Relyea

On 4/17/24 12:54 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:

On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 09:38:30AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:

Dne 17. 04. 24 v 9:20 dop. Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a):

By adding this functionality to Mock itself. It can be optional 
(--add-determinism). And then Mock can call

    add-determinism $chroot/%buildroot/

I don't think we should make this particular functionality special.
We have a bunch of brps:

It depends... if you want to have this check/sanitization part of rpmbuild.
When it is small,and does not inflate buildroot, then fine.

Over the years, I learn that people have different view where each component 
should go. :) I will not argue.

If you package add-determinism I can help you to add it to Mock. Likely as 
plugin:

https://rpm-software-management.github.io/mock/#plugins

that is called in `postbuild`

https://rpm-software-management.github.io/mock/Plugin-Hooks

And by helping I mean that I will create the initial PR and you (and others) 
will test the functionality. Deal?

Thank you for the offer. I _might_ take you up on it later, but
for now, I think it's better to keep this inside of the buildroot.

I don't think that this functionality should be tied to mock. Right
now, the helper runs for 'fedpkg local' (as all brps), but if it's
moved to mock, then we'd need to at least call it from two places.



A lot of our security libraries create cryptographic checksums on the 
binaries that need to be correct in order for them to run in FIPS mode. 
If this is actually changing the binaries, we'll need to rerun those 
checksums.


bob



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[Bug 2275982] New: perl-DateTime-Locale-1.42 is available

2024-04-18 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2275982

Bug ID: 2275982
   Summary: perl-DateTime-Locale-1.42 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-DateTime-Locale
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
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  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Releases retrieved: 1.42
Upstream release that is considered latest: 1.42
Current version/release in rawhide: 1.41-1.fc41
URL: https://metacpan.org/dist/DateTime-Locale/

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora Linux 40 Final is GO Need to fix up for good grub.cfg Cant install Workstation and KDE on same system.

2024-04-18 Thread Leslie Satenstein via devel
Hi Guys,
With my testing, I could not install  one copy of Fedora40gnome and then on the 
same system the copy of Fedora40KDE.
Whatever came second, has a signature for grub2-mkconfig, that causes the first 
F40 menuentrys to be replaced by the latter.  My computer bios shows the same 
duplicates.

But I am OK with F39 and F40 being on the same drive.




Leslie Satenstein
 

On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 02:27:24 p.m. EDT, Aoife Moloney 
 wrote:  
 
 The Fedora Linux 40 Final RC1.14 compose is GO and will be shipped
live on Tuesday, 23rd April.

For more information please check the Go/No-Go meeting minutes[1] or
log[2], and a huge thank you to everyone involved in this release!

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Re: Picking up protobuf

2024-04-18 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 3:06 PM Michel Lind  wrote:
>
> Hi Major,
>
> On 4/18/24 13:25, Major Hayden wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, at 21:51, Michel Lind wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> protobuf was recently orphaned without any announcement to this list.
> >>
> >> I've picked it up since et depends on it.
> >
> > Thanks for picking that up, Michel. I intended to mail the list yesterday 
> > and totally lost track of time. 臘‍♂️
> >
> No worries! I was wondering who the previous maintainer was - the RHBZ 
> overrides made it super confusing :)
>
> > The big challenge we had with protobuf is that updating it broke quite a 
> > few things built against the old version. But staying put with the same 
> > version led to problems with newer packages that were coming along day by 
> > day.
> >
> Yeah... it might be worth just upgrading in Rawhide and not touch the stable 
> releases, as Sérgio suggested,
>   unless there is an urgent security update? We should let maintainers of 
> protobuf dependents chime in too.
>

I do the same for capnproto for the same reason. :)



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[Bug 2275976] New: perl-Text-CSV_XS-1.54 is available

2024-04-18 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2275976

Bug ID: 2275976
   Summary: perl-Text-CSV_XS-1.54 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-Text-CSV_XS
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: p...@city-fan.org
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: anon.am...@gmail.com, ka...@ucw.cz,
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  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Releases retrieved: 1.54
Upstream release that is considered latest: 1.54
Current version/release in rawhide: 1.53-3.fc40
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Text-CSV_XS/

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Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-18 Thread Maxwell G
On Thu Apr 18, 2024 at 11:51 +1000, Nathan Scott wrote:
> > > == Owner ==
> > > * Name: [[User:jonathanspw|Jonathan Wright]]
> > > * Email: jonat...@almalinux.org
> >
> > It would be nice to have Remi who currently maintains redis on board as 
> > well.
> >
>
> This is the second time this has been requested, but not yet actioned.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2274206
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/valkey
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/redis
>
> Can we resolve this before allowing this Change Proposal to proceed,
> please?  I think its in Fedora's interest to see 'new redis' maintained
> by group, rather than an individual, if the existing maintainers wish to
> (continue to) be involved.
>
> The 'new' valkey package is very closely derived from redis packaging
> which other Fedora maintainers have been looking after for ~14 years.

Yeah, I strongly agree. Thank you, Nathan and Remi, for the work you've
done to maintain redis up until now.
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Re: Picking up protobuf

2024-04-18 Thread Michel Lind

Hi Major,

On 4/18/24 13:25, Major Hayden wrote:

On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, at 21:51, Michel Lind wrote:

Hi all,

protobuf was recently orphaned without any announcement to this list.

I've picked it up since et depends on it.


Thanks for picking that up, Michel. I intended to mail the list yesterday and 
totally lost track of time. 臘‍♂️


No worries! I was wondering who the previous maintainer was - the RHBZ 
overrides made it super confusing :)


The big challenge we had with protobuf is that updating it broke quite a few 
things built against the old version. But staying put with the same version led 
to problems with newer packages that were coming along day by day.


Yeah... it might be worth just upgrading in Rawhide and not touch the stable 
releases, as Sérgio suggested,
 unless there is an urgent security update? We should let maintainers of 
protobuf dependents chime in too.
 
Best regards,


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Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-18 Thread Maxwell G

On 4/18/24 00:51, Remi Collet wrote:

Le 17/04/2024 à 18:37, Maxwell G a écrit :

On Wed Apr 17, 2024 at 16:38 +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote:
Thank you for submitting this!


I agree we’ll have to get rid of redis in the future, and than such a 
switch will make a strong statement about our disapproval to redis 
about this License change.


But I also think this is a bit early (F41)

- Valkey is very young, and they is no proof it will be best choice

- Redis 7.2 is still there and maintained (even version 6.2 and 7.0 
are maintained), and keeping it have no security issue.


So I’m -1 for F41 and probably +1 for F42



One option is to introduce {valkey,redict}-redis-compat packages now 
(users could "dnf swap redis " themselves) and then 
consider making one "the default" and Obsoleting redis in F42.

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Fedora Linux 40 Final is GO

2024-04-18 Thread Aoife Moloney
The Fedora Linux 40 Final RC1.14 compose is GO and will be shipped
live on Tuesday, 23rd April.

For more information please check the Go/No-Go meeting minutes[1] or
log[2], and a huge thank you to everyone involved in this release!

[1] 
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-04-18/f40-final-go-no-go-meeting.2024-04-18-17.01.html
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[Test-Announce] Fedora Linux 40 Final is GO

2024-04-18 Thread Aoife Moloney
The Fedora Linux 40 Final RC1.14 compose is GO and will be shipped
live on Tuesday, 23rd April.

For more information please check the Go/No-Go meeting minutes[1] or
log[2], and a huge thank you to everyone involved in this release!

[1] 
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-04-18/f40-final-go-no-go-meeting.2024-04-18-17.01.html
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Re: Picking up protobuf

2024-04-18 Thread Major Hayden
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, at 21:51, Michel Lind wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> protobuf was recently orphaned without any announcement to this list.
>
> I've picked it up since et depends on it.

Thanks for picking that up, Michel. I intended to mail the list yesterday and 
totally lost track of time. 臘‍♂️

The big challenge we had with protobuf is that updating it broke quite a few 
things built against the old version. But staying put with the same version led 
to problems with newer packages that were coming along day by day.

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Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-18 Thread Priscila Gutierres
I'm worried about seeing someone here on this discussion list lowering the
importance of privacy.

On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 2:53 PM Igor Kerstges  wrote:

> Privacy is not too much of my concern.
>
> How much data is to be expected to be sent over my dataplan on monthly
> basis? When using Fedora Workstations as a graphics workstation (including
> regular office applications) during office hours and extensive internet
> research and entertainment during (late)evenings and weekends, should I
> expect this to generate data of some 10's of KB, or should I expect it to
> amount to megabytes? Will this be uploaded on scheduled daily interval or
> more regularly? Can I monitor the traffic on my firewall (and how)?
>
> Good luck with the upcoming release soon! Cheers,
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Re: Picking up protobuf

2024-04-18 Thread Neil Hanlon

On 18.04.2024 12:42, Michel Lind wrote:

Hi Neil,

On 4/18/24 06:37, Neil Hanlon wrote:

thanks Michel!

I'd be happy to help maintain if you would like assistance.


There are 3 previous maintainers, plus the EPEL bugzilla is overridden to Peter 
Lemenkov (cc:ed) who is not in the ACL yet.

So I'd rather take things slow and not make unilateral ACL changes. Any PR 
welcome though! (And I'll try and sort out
existing issues and PRs in between conference prep).


100% agree. I'll keep an eye on the progress and feel free to ping if you need 
a hand with anything.

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Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-18 Thread Igor Kerstges
Privacy is not too much of my concern.

How much data is to be expected to be sent over my dataplan on monthly basis? 
When using Fedora Workstations as a graphics workstation (including regular 
office applications) during office hours and extensive internet research and 
entertainment during (late)evenings and weekends, should I expect this to 
generate data of some 10's of KB, or should I expect it to amount to megabytes? 
Will this be uploaded on scheduled daily interval or more regularly? Can I 
monitor the traffic on my firewall (and how)?

Good luck with the upcoming release soon! Cheers,
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Re: Picking up protobuf

2024-04-18 Thread Michel Lind

Hi Neil,

On 4/18/24 06:37, Neil Hanlon wrote:

thanks Michel!

I'd be happy to help maintain if you would like assistance.


There are 3 previous maintainers, plus the EPEL bugzilla is overridden to Peter 
Lemenkov (cc:ed) who is not in the ACL yet.

So I'd rather take things slow and not make unilateral ACL changes. Any PR 
welcome though! (And I'll try and sort out
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Re: Picking up protobuf

2024-04-18 Thread Michel Lind

Hi Sérgio,

On 4/18/24 06:44, Sérgio Basto wrote:

On Wed, 2024-04-17 at 21:51 -0500, Michel Lind wrote:

Hi all,

protobuf was recently orphaned without any announcement to this list.

I've picked it up since et depends on it.



Update protobuf is a huge task

see https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/protobuf/pull-request/26 ( move
from protobuf-3.19.6 to 3.25.1 )

I think we should try enforce the update on rawhide , and just after
look to protobuf-3.26.


Agreed - we definitely should only do major upgrades on Rawhide.

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Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-18 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Nathan Scott wrote:
> - it could be advantageous if the new compat sub-package contained
> the redis binary symlinks & not the primary valkey package (this could
> allow valkey and redict packages to coexist, for example).  Long-term
> we may want to drop those entirely (along with the compat package, to
> complete the transition away from Redis).

I do not see why we need a separate compat subpackage at all. Valkey should 
just Obsolete/Provide redis and include all the compat symlinks in the main 
package.

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Fedora 40 compose report: 20240418.n.0 changes

2024-04-18 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-40-20240417.n.0
NEW: Fedora-40-20240418.n.0

= SUMMARY =
Added images:1
Dropped images:  3
Added packages:  0
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages:   0
Downgraded packages: 0

Size of added packages:  0 B
Size of dropped packages:0 B
Size of upgraded packages:   0 B
Size of downgraded packages: 0 B

Size change of upgraded packages:   0 B
Size change of downgraded packages: 0 B

= ADDED IMAGES =
Image: Sericea ociarchive x86_64
Path: Sericea/x86_64/images/Fedora-Sericea-40.20240418.n.0.ociarchive

= DROPPED IMAGES =
Image: i3 live aarch64
Path: Spins/aarch64/iso/Fedora-i3-Live-aarch64-40-20240417.n.0.iso
Image: Server_KVM qcow2 ppc64le
Path: Server/ppc64le/images/Fedora-Server-KVM-40-20240417.n.0.ppc64le.qcow2
Image: Workstation live aarch64
Path: 
Workstation/aarch64/iso/Fedora-Workstation-Live-aarch64-40-20240417.n.0.iso

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Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-18 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Kilian Hanich via devel wrote:
> The fact that you can share the keys is actually part of the design and
> wanted. Apple for exmaple has (or wants to) implement easy sharing of
> passkeys via AirDrop.

So the Apple Cloud can see your private key, but you cannot? Sounds like 
GREAT "security", LOL…

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : ELN SIG

2024-04-18 Thread sgallagh
Dear all,

You are kindly invited to the meeting:
   ELN SIG on 2024-04-19 from 12:00:00 to 13:00:00 US/Eastern
   At fedora-meet...@irc.libera.chat

The meeting will be about:



Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10568/

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Re: Picking up protobuf

2024-04-18 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Wed, 2024-04-17 at 21:51 -0500, Michel Lind wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> protobuf was recently orphaned without any announcement to this list.
> 
> I've picked it up since et depends on it.
> 

Update protobuf is a huge task 

see https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/protobuf/pull-request/26 ( move
from protobuf-3.19.6 to 3.25.1 ) 

I think we should try enforce the update on rawhide , and just after
look to protobuf-3.26.

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Re: Picking up protobuf

2024-04-18 Thread Neil Hanlon
thanks Michel!

I'd be happy to help maintain if you would like assistance.


On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 22:52 Michel Lind  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> protobuf was recently orphaned without any announcement to this list.
>
> I've picked it up since et depends on it.
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
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Re: Creating venv with latest python3.10 requires expat >= 2.6.0

2024-04-18 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 18. 04. 24 1:00, Miro Hrončok wrote:

On 18. 04. 24 0:37, Miro Hrončok wrote:

On 17. 04. 24 23:10, Markus Falb wrote:

I wonder if there is a way to reflect that in the spec file
something like:

...snip
Requires: expat >= 2.6.0
snap...


Yes, we need to do that. I'm on it.


https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python3.13/pull-request/54 -- other Pythons 
will follow after CI + review.


Here is the Fedora 38 python3.10 update:

https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2024-7736b7ce48

Other updates are available as well:

https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=python3.8,python3.9,python3.10,python3.11,python3.12,python3.13

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Re: Redis will no longer be OSS... now what?

2024-04-18 Thread Nathan Scott
On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 1:05 AM Leon Fauster via devel
 wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the work on it. I wonder why valkey conflicts with redis,
> > redict for instance does not!? Is this a decision for a preferred
> > upgrade path? What about leaving this decision to the user (keydb,
> > redict, valkey, redis on RHEL, etc) and allowing parallel installation
> > for testing, decision making processes and migration.
> >
> >
> > It is due to redict renaming some libs, while valkey has opted to retain
> > "redis" on some lib file names.

# rpm -ql redis | grep lib | grep -v build-id
/usr/lib/systemd/system/redis-sentinel.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/redis.service
/usr/lib64/redis
/usr/lib64/redis/modules
/var/lib/redis

There aren't any lib files in either valkey or redis, and none of the
directories listed above are in conflict between the two packages.

I notice also a Conflict between valkey-devel and redis-devel has
been added, and as much as I appreciate the sentiment (we're all
disappointed with what has happened), I can't see justification for
that either.

> It seems to be just links in the bin directory that overlaps (and not
> libs). Why not putting these links into the compat subpackage including
> also the conflict statement. That would allow to install the main
> package side-by-side to the other key-value-db forks.

+1

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/valkey/pull-request/2

cheers.

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[Bug 2261445] perl-Authen-Krb5-Admin: FTBFS in Fedora rawhide/f40: perl(Authen::Krb5) build depenency does not exist

2024-04-18 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2261445

Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|perl-Authen-Krb5-Admin: |perl-Authen-Krb5-Admin:
   |FTBFS in Fedora rawhide/f40 |FTBFS in Fedora
   ||rawhide/f40:
   ||perl(Authen::Krb5) build
   ||depenency does not exist
 CC||ppi...@redhat.com
   Doc Type|--- |If docs needed, set a value



--- Comment #4 from Petr Pisar  ---
The problem is that perl-Authen-Krb5 was removed from Fedora.


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