Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

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[Test-Announce] 2012-11-26 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 18 Beta review / Final planning 3. Test case / criteria revision 4. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net ___ test

You (yes, YOU) can now definitely nominate blocker bugs

enough to merit freeze breaks). To nominate a bug as a blocker for F18 final, for instance, mark it as blocking the bug 'F18Blocker'. Please use these powers wisely! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http

Re: You (yes, YOU) maybe can't yet definitely nominate blocker bugs

On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 01:45 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Exciting news from the fast-moving world of RH Bugzilla administration: a mere, fleeting year and a half after I filed the initial request, it is finally the case that any registered Bugzilla user can now change the Blocks: (and Depends

Re: RFC: Feature process improvements

does not appear to have a viable contingency plan, or a realistic development schedule, or something like that. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: RFC: Feature process improvements

packages; quite big, but a long way from 'almost everything'. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Nvidia driver in F18?

possible for ten different bugs to all have the same superficial symptom ('it boots to a black screen' being a classic one, for instance). You can't assume that your problem is 'known' just because your symptom sounds kind of like one you read about on a forum somewhere. -- Adam Williamson Fedora

Re: Nvidia driver in F18?

F17-as-shipped wrt nouveau even if the xorg-x11-drv-nouveau package hadn't changed. of course, we now keep legacy releases up-to-date kernel-wise, so in many ways, up-to-date f17 will have almost the same NVIDIA support as up-to-date f18. wheels within wheels... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA

Re: Yum Package Remove Order

create directories for stuff that's added as part of the package, not part of the software per se - say, you're including a convenience script which is not upstream, or moving the icons around, or something. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca

Re: I want upgrade my computer

problem? There is some method to debug what's happening ? Some suggest? If it says 'Loading System Upgrade' then you appear to be still running the fedup boot entry, not the one for the upgraded system? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca

Re: Nvidia driver in F18?

commented in teh bug, it is extremely unlikely your problem is actually the same as the one in that bug. Please file a new bug. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel

selinux-policy-3.11.1-57 and 3.11.1-58 breaking access to 'storage' drives

know where between -50 and -57 it broke). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Blocker Bug Voting and Conversation

to overplay how bad the current system is, to be honest. It's a duct tape job, sure, but it's survived as long as it has because it actually achieves its goals fairly efficiently. I think we can definitely build something more solid, but let's not throw out any babies... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA

Re: Blocker Bug Voting and Conversation

even a messy bugzilla report than a long ML thread via our mail archives. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: Blocker Bug Voting and Conversation

an annoyance... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: I want upgrade my computer

-upgrade I'd be wary about over-promising if I were you. Scripting the stuff in the upgrading_with_yum guide is nice and all, but it hardly counts as addressing 'all possible hick-ups'. Tried running it on a system with a bunch of stuff from rpmfusion yet, for instance? -- Adam Williamson Fedora

Re: F18 Beta: Freeze during boot

booting Fedora 18 Beta, I see this: dracut-cmdline[121]: /etc/locale.conf: line1: locale.LANG=en_US.UTF-8: command that line appears to be truncated, but it almost seems like it's trying to run 'locale.LANG=en_US.UTF-8' as a command, which would be odd. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community

Re: Detecting soname bumps

is, can rpmbuild do anything automatically instead of per spec changes? This is the kind of thing that's traditionally been in rpmlint-type tools. It'd probably be trivial to add it to autoqa for e.g., as informative output on a bodhi update... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC

Re: F18 Beta: Freeze during boot

On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 00:08 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 12:06 -0500, Braden McDaniel wrote: I posted about this a couple of days ago to the test list; but I've gotten no response so I'm fishing here. I'm not sure if this is a genuine freeze; but I have

Re: [Test-Announce] Heads up: Fedora 18 Final Change Deadline and Feature Process changes

by the Feature Wrangler once the page content is verified for correctness and FESCo votes on Feature no sooner than a week after the announcement to encourage broader discussion. Related to this change, we'll be aiming to compose the first Test Composes this week. -- Adam Williamson Fedora

Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora?

through core GNOME stack) and add-on apps (say Battle for Wesnoth, to pick a relatively obvious example). Now, there's a bike shed to be painted over where the lines should be drawn. We could draw them between Core and Extras! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter

Re: Detecting soname bumps

/rpmguard/results/libmemcached-1.0.14-.html ? We're doing very poor job announcing it, but we run the tool on every new package build in Koji. Oh, yeah, exactly that. I forgot we had an rpmguard test. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca

Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora?

, and neither shows any signs of conversion or just plain going away, so we may have to call it an ecumenical matter and deal with their models somehow. Sucky as it may be. I don't know, I'm a bit conflicted. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca

Re: selinux-policy-3.11.1-57 and 3.11.1-58 breaking access to 'storage' drives

, the updated and a relabel isn't working for me. My USB attached HDDs are still unusable: Miroslav is asking us to try -60 now. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel

Re: grub (v1) in f18?

grub and only ship grub-efi), but I'm just the monkey. He might catch this thread to explain what his reasoning is/was. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel

Re: bugz.fedoraproject.org/packagename MIA?

several hours a day loading bug URLs. Grr... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Grub2

of doing this. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Summary/Minutes for Wednesday's FESCo meeting (2012-12-05)

with as many changes as F18. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Where are we going? (Not a rant)

packages in order to be in any way 'affected' by them. I thought the updates policy mentioned this, but I can't find it any more. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel

[Test-Announce] 2012-12-10 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

The current proposed agenda is included below. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 18 Final status 3. Test case / criteria revision 4. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http

Re: [Test-Announce] 2012-12-10 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 00:01 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: # Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2012-12-10 # Time: 16:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! It's meeting time again tomorrow

Re: Grub2

, the issue is that it's renamed on Fedora to avoid conflict with GRUB Legacy commands, e.g. grub-install vs grub2-install. It's confusing. We should probably stop doing that for F19 when grub-legacy finally goes... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

elections announcement. You can do quite a lot of stuff in Fedora without signing CLA. Including every single QA function, I think. Really, cla_done is pretty specific to 'creating distribution content'. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca

Re: requirement to (re)format volumes when installing

'defaults' to re-using existing partitions. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

as various other methods). Your mail seems to imply the conclusion ...and thus we should not announce elections via email, which doesn't seem like something anyone would welcome. :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http

Re: grub2-tools and UEFI/GPT

after all. (Though neither of the two packages appears to contain a grub[2]-efi-install tool, at least not the Fedora 17 rpms; but then again, I hopefully won't need to fiddle with that again anyway...) grub-efi was still default for F17. We are only going to grub2-efi with F18. -- Adam

Re: OCaml 4.00.1 for Fedora 18

minimal possible changes. Please co-ordinate with QA and releng if you see any packages where we may need to do some special handling. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list

Re: OCaml 4.00.1 for Fedora 18

by the critpath definition, but it does have the potential to affect our release-ability. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: rawhide report: 20121214 changes

a few bugs as NTH yesterday as I think we should pull something post-63 into final. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-video-intel 2.20.16

as an update. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-video-intel 2.20.16

On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 20:54 +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote: Hi Adam, On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 12:23 +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote: Hi, Would it be possible to pull in and package

Re: fedup: does not verify source

distro-sync across a reboot and in an isolated environment, and provides an interface for hooking in any kind of outside-of-yum-mucking-about we might need to do (like the /usr move stuff). It's really just a slightly sophisticated framework to do what you're suggesting. -- Adam Williamson Fedora

[Test-Announce] 2012-12-17 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

follow-up 2. Fedora 18 Final status and blocker review 3. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou

Re: fedup: does not verify source

On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 11:27 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On 12/17/2012 01:58 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: fedup essentially automates doing yum distro-sync across a reboot and in an isolated environment, and provides an interface for hooking in any kind of outside-of-yum-mucking-about we

Re: Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-video-intel 2.20.16

, entirely meaningless. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: fedup: does not verify source

On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 02:05 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 11:27 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On 12/17/2012 01:58 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: fedup essentially automates doing yum distro-sync across a reboot and in an isolated environment

Fedora 18 Final blocker status: required fixes, karma, etc

-adapter X bug, which by policy we don't take as blockers (or else we'd never release anything). I'd guess this will be rejected. Thanks for your attention to these bugs everyone! Thanks. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http

[@core] minimal install size assessment, f17 vs. f18

. procps-ng replaces procps, and udev / libudev are now in systemd / systemd-libs. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: Oldest package review resolved

incredible patience. I guess it was submitted back in the days when people remembered what 'fax machines' were ;) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel

Re: fltk

the link step on Ubuntu Probably http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ChangeInImplicitDSOLinking Mirek Jeez, Ubuntu still hasn't done that? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing

Re: [@core] minimal install size assessment, f17 vs. f18

On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:34 +0100, Thomas Bendler wrote: 2012/12/18 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com Just for interest, here's the current (and likely final) state of minimal install package set for f18 vs. f17. [...] Can you also point to a page

Re: [@core] minimal install size assessment, f17 vs. f18

On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 11:12 -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On 19 December 2012 10:58, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:34 +0100, Thomas Bendler wrote: 2012/12/18 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com Just for interest, here's the current

Re: fltk

On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 00:06 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:30 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: Probably http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ChangeInImplicitDSOLinking Mirek Jeez, Ubuntu still hasn't done that? I don't think ANY other

Re: Why samba-client not installed by default?

this one, but we always just seem to think in limited 'either make it a hard RPM dependency or ignore it' terms. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-12-19)

situation. -Toshio -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-12-19)

On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 18:48 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 06:07:58PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 17:50 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Just making systemd the exception sounds like chickening out from the real solution which is to end

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-12-19)

On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 18:54 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: A systemd-specific exception works for systemd, fine, but it doesn't really seem to address the root problem. To further elaborate: the 'root problem', it seems to me, is that this 'Fedoraism' as Lennart calls it results in one of two

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-12-19)

On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 19:05 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 18:54 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: A systemd-specific exception works for systemd, fine, but it doesn't really seem to address the root problem. To further elaborate: the 'root problem', it seems to me

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-12-19)

On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 04:22 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 18:54 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: A systemd-specific exception works for systemd, fine, but it doesn't really seem to address

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-12-19)

On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 23:01 -0500, Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: All this for the rather questionable benefit of having a specifically defined place for helper-scripts-not-meant-to-be-executed-directly, which gains us...what, exactly, over just putting

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-12-19)

. I've never seen any distro take any notice of this standard whatsoever. This is in fact the first reference I've seen to it in any context. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-12-19)

and $libdir/foo . The libexecdir thing is kind of a tangent and probably should be split out if we're going to keep talking about it. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-12-19)

On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 12:30 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 09:16:00PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: I've never seen any distro take any notice of this standard whatsoever. Well, if you don't count Red Hat Linux, Fedora, and Red Hat Enterprise Linux I should

Re: prefered way of configuring X11 keyboard layouts in F18

if somebody did work on it, and we'd be happy to support this in systemd if done right. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing

Re: prefered way of configuring X11 keyboard layouts in F18

weren't before. There is certainly at least a potential for regression here. The systemd-localed list of keymaps may not have regressed but it has taken on more significance. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: DualstackNetworking - proper dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 networking

to be, but for core stuff - critpath - it would be very good to have a clearly defined scope well before we start cutting F19 builds. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel

Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

, systemd, GNOME etc folks all pointed in the same direction and working so that there's far less suckage and far more smooth interaction going on here? Should we try and run some sort of session at FUDCon? Thanks, folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 09:23 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 01/03/2013 08:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hey, folks. I'm not really sure how to frame it, but the result of all my poking about at keyboard layout bugs and related stuff recently is that I'm pretty sad at the state

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 20:17 +1030, William Brown wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 01:42 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 09:23 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 01/03/2013 08:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hey, folks. I'm not really sure how to frame

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 11:31 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 3.1.2013 10:51, Adam Williamson napsal(a): On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 20:17 +1030, William Brown wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 01:42 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 09:23 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 01/03

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

' problem, as it was suggested in another bug that the Bambara thing was somehow a part of your bug. But I should probably just separate it out to avoid confusion. No-one seems to have given any serious consideration to the Bambara thing, which is unfortunate. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey

Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 15:43 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 03.01.13 00:03, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889562 - systemd conversion from xkb to console layouts fails probably more than it succeeds, when it does, you

Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 18:53 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 03.01.13 09:38, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: If we have such a tool, can we make the whole area of keymap configuration much less insane? Right now we appear to have at least the following: Well, we

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

was a really bad idea. I know. :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:26 -0800, John Reiser wrote: On 01/03/2013 09:59 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: if there's /etc/keyboard.conf specifying 'KEYBOARD=foo', [then] I should never have to pass 'KEYBOARD=foo' as a cmdline to make foo my keyboard layout in some case. As things stand I

Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 19:58 +0100, Till Maas wrote: On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 09:59:52AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Oh sure. I guess I need to draw a distinction between what I see as two different cases. Which I'm sure you understand but I'm having trouble describing clearly. I guess

Re: prefered way of configuring X11 keyboard layouts in F18

On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 15:01 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: As discussed in the bug, if systemd-localed is doing 'fuzzy matching' it may be the case that we actually get a decent match for most layouts, I'll have to do more testing. But the situation is clearly different to the F17 one

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

in GRUB which is not needed for a clean system boot That all comes from upstream grub2. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 23:29 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Apart from all the bullshit about cars, which part of it's part of upstream grub2 are you people not understanding? This is not our code. This is how grub2

Re: Quite serius political bug in Fedora 18

, file it at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=xkeyboard-config . -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

[Test-Announce] 2013-01-07 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

and catch up with that side of things after the meeting. The current proposed agenda is included below. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 18 Final status and blocker review 3. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter

Re: Fedora 18: WebApp and httpd 2.4 configuration

magical resources to achieve this, it's a decision-making body. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Fedora 18: WebApp and httpd 2.4 configuration

On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 01:56 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 01/07/2013 10:19 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Why? What can FESCo do about it? We don't need to kick every damn issue to FESCo, as seems to be a trend lately. Ah I see but it's ok when you do... What have I escalated

Re: Fedora 18: WebApp and httpd 2.4 configuration

On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 03:06 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 01/08/2013 02:10 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 01:56 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 01/07/2013 10:19 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Why? What can FESCo do about it? We don't need to kick every damn

Re: Fedora 18: WebApp and httpd 2.4 configuration

On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 21:02 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 04:48:36 +0100 Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz wrote: On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 03:06 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: So the remaining

Fedora 18 status

/updates/gnupg2-2.0.19-7.fc18 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnupg-1.4.13-2.fc18 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ibus-table-chinese-1.4.6-1.fc18 If we could get some testing on those so they can be pushed stable, it'd be awesome. Thanks! Thanks, everyone! -- Adam Williamson Fedora

Re: Fedora 18 status

. I'll mark the test as PASS for RC1, RC2 and RC3 with your input, thanks Matt. I'll check with dgilmore whether fprintd is in the AMI, for RC4 purposes (see test@ for the RC4 story). Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora

Re: Fedora 18 status

On Wed, 2013-01-09 at 09:05 +, Phil Dobbin wrote: On 01/09/2013 06:39 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hey, folks. Just to keep everyone in the loop on F18 status: RC2 looks about 99.99% good. The only blocker found so far is that it's lacking the final cut of the release notes. We

Re: Fedora 18 status / F18-RC4 Xen tests

On Wed, 2013-01-09 at 22:43 -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 08:36:59PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 10:39:53PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote

[Test-Announce] Fedora 18 testing: final night!

: RC3 --- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_18_Final_RC4_Install https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_18_Final_RC4_Install -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

[Test-Announce] Fedora 18 testing: final night!

'... Thanks folks! Whichever way the decision goes, a huge thanks to everyone who spent so much time working on the validation tests and bug verification, this release would still be in delay hell without you all. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora

Re: [Test-Announce] Last Minute Testing for Fedora 18 RC4

8 Pro Client Hyper-V hosting supported? I don't know about 'supported', but other people have reported Hyper-V works, so give it a shot. I don't think we'd lose any sleep if it doesn't work, though. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora

Re: comps' standard group spring cleaning?

). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2013-01-09)

running one of those, your only option for setting a system-wide keyboard config may be calling localectl or editing vconsole.conf directly. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2013-01-09)

On Sat, 2013-01-12 at 18:05 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: GNOME can apply a keyboard config you set via GNOME Control Center systemwide, using localectl. I'm not sure KDE, Xfce, LXDE or other desktops have any ability to do this, though, so if you're running one

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2013-01-09)

On Mon, 2013-01-21 at 20:40 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: No reason why. It's practically the poster child for something that can be fixed with a post-release update, as it by definition only affects post-release configuration. I didn't even bother nominating

'Nice to have' process is now 'Freeze exception' process, improvements to blocker / freeze exception tracker aliases

. Thanks everyone! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: 'Nice to have' process is now 'Freeze exception' process, improvements to blocker / freeze exception tracker aliases

On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 19:30 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: I can think of a couple of potential issues with the 'dynamic' tracker names (I'm not sure whether nominations will 'transfer' from one release to the next when we change where the alias points, and if so, whether we want

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

of thing where it's pretty hard to know you've covered everything. I'm no SQL expert and I'm not sure who is; is there anyone who's well-experienced in this area who would be willing to lead testing efforts? Is there any kind of well-known, respected test suite for MySQL? -- Adam Williamson Fedora

Re: Status to make btsfs to the standard filesystem of Fedora

that stick out most clearly in my memory, but I'm sure there are others and people may be able to contribute them. gnome-disks also doesn't really interpret btrfs right at all, or didn't the last time I checked. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca

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