Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
is more widely ignored than it is being implemented. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
the xdg basedir spec to standardize it. Lennart -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:14:22 -0400 Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote: On 07/27/2011 05:00 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On 7/27/11 1:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Depends on the PATH-Order if something is intended to be first in PATH and any attacker is able to write there his ls would

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-28 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:24:48 +0100 Bryn M. Reeves b...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/27/2011 03:14 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:54:09 +0200 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: If you don't hide ~/.local and ~/.config then users who are less savvy than us might

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-28 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:00:28 +0100 Bryn M. Reeves b...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/28/2011 12:54 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:24:48 +0100 Bryn M. Reeves b...@redhat.com wrote: There are already quite a few things that may place executables under . prefixed paths in home

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-28 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:35:27 +0100 Bryn M. Reeves b...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/28/2011 01:22 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:00:28 +0100 Bryn M. Reeves b...@redhat.com wrote: It is nevertheless an *added* avenue to do some phishing. And for what benefit? No, it's

Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

2011-09-14 Thread Bernd Stramm
. There is no guarantee that this will _always_ finish everything sooner than some other, arbitrary ordering. In this kind of environment, usually it will go faster, but not always. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

2011-09-15 Thread Bernd Stramm
. This is very wasteful. The reason people do this is because booting takes a long time compared to starting the set of applications they use. If you could boot and start applications in say, 1/2 second, usage patterns would be completely different. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel

Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

2011-09-15 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:27:49 -0700 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 14:14 -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: Many computers are booted very rarely, once a day or so, and then sit idle for very long periods of time. This is very wasteful. The reason people do

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-12 Thread Bernd Stramm
that they are not following this debate. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-13 Thread Bernd Stramm
of the accounts will be compromised. 2) We could require everyone to change keys. And some time after that, some accounts will be compromised again. Some of the same accounts as before, and some other accounts. Not maybe. Certainly, 100%. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com signature.asc

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
make tools are doing a part of building the world. Should we try to make it better, or simple more convenient? Computers are tools, and using them the wrong way can cause a lot of damage. The most convenient interface for the lazy is not always the best. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:06:33 +0530 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/27/2011 09:20 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: I think this is going a little far. Saying that people are better off being able to read is not elitist. Yes it is. Because you are assuming that it is because

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:09:46 +0530 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/28/2011 12:01 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote: Call me elitist then, I think it is better when more people can read, and when they actually do it. Unfortunately for someone talking about so much about

Re: bodhi client question

2013-10-03 Thread bernd . stramm
On 6/13/13 17:33 Sérgio Basto wrote: -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: bodhi client question

2013-10-03 Thread bernd . stramm
On 6/13/13 17:33 Sérgio Basto wrote: -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Heads up: impending IPv6 Test Day

2011-06-02 Thread Bernd Stramm
to use a Unique Local Address prefix, following http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/ipv6/ipv6-address-types Rich. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
with any new ideas. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
? Doesn't live up to my expectation is very different from Doesn't comply with spec and both are different from Is a bad design. How about a spec then of what Gnome3 was trying to achiece, and how about those who like it telling us how Gnome3 achieved those things? -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:44:45 -0700 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 00:30 +0900, 夜神 岩男 wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 10:04 -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:33:18 +0900 夜神 岩男 supergiantpot...@yahoo.co.jp wrote: Considering

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:02:14 -0400 Casey Dahlin cdah...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 01:05:08PM -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: I think it fails on #1: Makes it easy for users to focus on their current task and reduces distraction and interruption First, this point

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:25:53 -0400 Casey Dahlin cdah...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 02:12:54PM -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: One could do that, but that would be an idiotic thing to do. So one doesn't. Its what you said. You explicitly want to divide your attention between

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:16:46 -0600 Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:02, Casey Dahlin cdah...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 01:05:08PM -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: I think it fails on #1: Makes it easy for users to focus

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:41:21 -0600 Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:34, Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:16:46 -0600 Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:02, Casey Dahlin cdah

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:47:38 -0400 Casey Dahlin cdah...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 02:32:12PM -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: So Gnome Shell is not for a good many of the people who had been using Gnome before that. YES! I don't know why more people don't realize this: GNOME

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:46:46 -0300 Evandro Giovanini efgiovan...@gmail.com wrote: Em Sex, 2011-06-17 às 15:21 -0400, Bernd Stramm escreveu: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:47:38 -0400 Casey Dahlin cdah...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 02:32:12PM -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: So

Re: Trusted Boot in Fedora

2011-06-24 Thread Bernd Stramm
if it is not under user control, otherwise it is a very useful feature. Nevertheless, the feature page contains no documentation about what it actually is. Neither does the sourceforge.net page of the project. It seems like a reasonable request that this documentation be added. Simo. -- Bernd Stramm

Re: Trusted Boot in Fedora

2011-06-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
/technology/security/downloads/315168.htm but is that it? How would anyone know? -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Bernd Stramm
to hypothetical testers. Would you help out with testing if given these specific instructions? If not yourself, who would actually do this? -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:09:53 + (UTC) JB jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Bernd Stramm bernd.stramm at gmail.com writes: ... Would you help out with testing if given these specific instructions? If not yourself, who would actually do this? ... I am only suggesting a mini form of so

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH (was: Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH)

2011-07-26 Thread Bernd Stramm
because of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699812 There is some rationale in that bug, but I think it's extremely bogus. Oh it seems every useful for purposes like installing executables that most users will never find. Rich. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 02:06 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, 2010/4/20 Slava Zanko slavaza...@gmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folk, I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... For example, all present utilites have sence

Re: C++ help needed

2010-04-20 Thread Bernd Stramm
not simply dead.package this unless I absolutely have to. I would be happy to return the favor with work that is in my skillset, licensing, packaging, reviewing, triage, etc, etc. Thanks in advance, ~spot -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 16:56 +0200, Alexander Boström wrote: tis 2010-04-20 klockan 01:51 +0300 skrev Slava Zanko: For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing (shell aliasing) these and much

Re: Open Letter: Why I, Kevin Kofler, am not rerunning for FESCo

2010-05-04 Thread Bernd Stramm
on the job Bernd -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Selective Updates

2010-05-04 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:42:18 +0200 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Bernd Stramm wrote: I would like to pick the packages that I'm adventurous with. Currently that's not very easy, either an adventurousness level is enabled in the repos or it isn't. That means my package manager

Re: Selective Updates

2010-05-04 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 04 May 2010 14:26:34 -0700 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 15:20 -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:42:18 +0200 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Bernd Stramm wrote: I would like to pick the packages that I'm

Re: Selective Updates

2010-05-04 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 04 May 2010 21:08:23 -0400 Matt McCutchen m...@mattmccutchen.net wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 17:44 -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: Too costly with the current tools, I have no doubt. The method you describe doesn't look manageable, you're right. Perhaps I should go research